#Green's character arc is so good AGHHH
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crystalizedcryolite · 2 months ago
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Woah woah woah what's this I'm hearing about Green hate?? Is this true? Probably not, but this is a great opportunity to explain character flaws! :D (I was saving this analysis for when the entire arc is done but whatever)
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A perfect, flawless character is a boring character. What fun will there be if your character did everything right in the world, no mistakes to let them grow or problems they can learn from? This helps create conflict, which helps expand on a character and develop them further.
Green's ego problem, his whole attention and fame-obsession thing, is a part of his character for a reason. Flaws in a character makes them more realistic and relatable, you feel me?
Green is actually a really complex character, and that's something I love most about him. That's why he's my favourite.
He can be kind, he can be a cocky jerk, he can be selfish, he can be selfless, he loves his friends, he doesn't understand what he's doing to them, all of it. His character flaws make him feel real.
His wanting for a bigger taste of fame, his slowly losing himself to the world of content creation? It's realistic. It happens everyday.
I, of course, hate what he's doing to his friends, hell, I've been there before, but that's simply necessary for his character arc. When he realises his mistake, he's going to grow from it. He's going to become a better person, I just know it.
How do I know? Because we've seen it time and time and time again.
Green showing off when he wins every build battle, Green getting cocky when dodging Red’s pranks, his anger when he loses? Those flaws have been established since day one.
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Except he's still a good person.
He remained loyal to his friends, genuinely loves and cares about them so very much, and most definitely the type to drop everything for them.
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(I hope, if my analysing skills are any good..)
And who's the one who comforted Purple after all he's done to them?
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Green.
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He's still including his friends, albeit a lot, lot less. He still cares about them, he's still trying to give them some spotlight, but he doesn't understand that they don't want that. Doesn't understand yet, anyway.
Sure, he's losing himself to the taste of fame, sure he's currently filled with an ego-driven, attention-seeking drive right now, but he'll learn soon.
That's what makes a character arc so darn good. Sometimes the problem isn't an outside force, or an enemy to battle, or something to stop.
Sometimes the problem is yourself, and it's something that needs to be changed.
Maybe the whole point of this fame-chasing arc is to let Green learn more about humility, in all it's glory, and the dangers of devoting your life to giving content to a bunch of strangers.
Or maybe not, who knows? There's still two episodes for the influencer arc, after all.
I can't wait to see how Green's character arc goes for it :D
(I don't mean any malice towards anyone, by the way! This is just me analysing Green's character :>
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nodulemodule · 1 year ago
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My own Sonic 3: a very bad dumb thesis
I haven’t been able to physically stop thinking about the third sonic movie so I was like fuck it I’m gonna write all this down but fuck it’s so long now. I did this instead of sleeping wtf.
Part 1: old characters and their arcs
Sonic
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Sonic’s thing in this movie is finding his destiny as a hero and where he belongs in the universe. It has to end with him saying bye to his human dad John or whatever his name is because I’m pretty sure these movies are meant to serve as origins. Or at least that’s how I’m treating it.
I think our first look at sonic after the last movie would be him struggling to lay low. He would be doing small-town hero work and trying to explore green hill as much as he can but he’s got a bit of a “when will my life begin” “part of your world” shtick going on. He’s itching to get out there and he’s also kind of questioning his own origins. He doesn’t know what he is or where he’s from except that he’s a hedgehog with power he doesn’t understand.
I like imagining a scene where he rewatched that hologram from Longclaw over and over looking for some sort of clue about his origins but he just can’t find anything. Later in the movie perhaps he’ll reuinite with Longclaw or maybe she’s like dead or something idk.
So when he hears about Planet Mobius for the first time he is immediately intrigued by the idea of other people like him. So he has to choose between earth and that new place. And then when Shadow comes into the mix and introduces the chaos emeralds, which are revealed to share the same type of power as Sonic, that throws an extra wrench into the mix.
Overall, Sonic’s arc is just taking everything he learned and experienced in the last two movies and using it to become the hero of Mobius and he leaves and becomes the Sonic the hedgehog we know today.
Tails
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This is his realizing he’s a badass arc. He probably has one of the more simple arcs of the cast. He starts out wanting to be like Sonic, but after failing to be like Sonic, he realizes he can only be like himself.
Tails’ real shining points are in his relationships with other characters. I want a montage of Sonic and Tails broing out and doing dumb kid things. Tails just thinks Sonic is endlessly cool and Sonic thinks Tails is endlessly cool and Sonic protects him from danger and they have sibling vibes and aghhh
I also like the idea that Tails and Amy know each other because I think that friendly reunion would be cute. I know Tails said he didn’t have any friends on his home planet but Idk I just want a scene where Tails shows up after Amy and Sonic have already been introduced and they’re so excited to see each other and Amy’s like “you’ve been taking care of him all this time? Thank you so much!” To Sonic and they’re just good friends and they hug that’s all I want
Knuckles
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Knuckles’ whole deal is an internal conflict between his past and his future, his sense of responsibility with his true wants. He’s been on earth for a bit, he’s becoming accustomed, he’s vibing, but he’s sort of latched onto the idea of assuming Sonic’s responsibility of looking after the master emerald out of guilt for the actions of his ancestors.
Yes, his people obviously didn’t deserve to be slaughtered, but the master emerald was there thanks to their recklessness, and now he must protect it not only from those who might use it for evil but as the final remnant of his past.
So he’s kind of latched onto that idea and still holds some of his previous ideals about honor and legacy. However, as the story goes on we see him break from his ideas of preserving the past and rather paving way for the future. And also just letting himself catch a break and getting over the guilt and the responsibility he’s put on himself. Part of this breakthrough is through Amy which I will talk about later.
Also he hates Rouge. But also kinda digs her. Idk they just argue a lot but also they fight and it would be so cool. I talk about it more in Rouge’s section
Also the part in sonic 2 where knuckles hoists up Tails like he’s his little brother that’s. That’s the vibe with him and Tails. All three of them are brothers and Sonic and Knuckles fight a lot but they will kill for Tails and they’re bros.
Part 2: new characters and their personalities (and voice headcannons)
Rouge
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first scene of the movie is her trying to steal the master emerald. After teaming up with shadow and Robotnik, she inevitably gets betrayed and has a change of heart, then switches to the good side.
I want her to be the funniest character in the movie aside from Shadow. She will be the snarkiest, campiest, bestest girl. And I want the animators to go all out giving her expressive character acting and charm. However, while doesn’t take herself too seriously and isn’t afraid to crack a joke or tease an opponent, she’s also fucking deadly and incredibly cool. Let her be cool because she is cool.
I imagine the movie would start with your standard good vs evil teams, but at some point Rouge gets redeemed and switches over to Sonic’s team and Sonic begins to go with Shadow to find out more about the chaos emeralds and his past.
Anyway, the most interesting relationships she has in the movie are with Knuckles and Shadow. The very first scene of the movie I think should be Rouge and Knuckles meeting, then bantering and flirting, her trying to steal the emerald, and them fighting before she escapes. When she gets her redemption they continue to argue and banter, but it’s cute and they’re on the same team now, even if Knuckles insists he doesn’t trust her.
Her friendship with Shadow I think would need several scenes dedicated to it cause I really want them to bond. I want Rouge to take him under her wing and implant the idea of mistrust in Shadow’s head and then have to deal with the repercussions of treating him that way after her redemption. I want them to trauma-bond. They’re gonna be besties and then there will be a fallout but they’ll be left with a profound respect and admiration for one another.
Now, for the biggest debate in all of sonic history. Should she keep her boobs? I say yes because it would be funny to see parents get offended by a bat with boobies. But also as a woman it’s nice to see those kinds of body types in a non-sexual context and movies like this are no exception.
Also if you haven’t already seen I am a firm believer that she needs to be voiced by Wendie Malick. If you need convincing, go find my proof of concept animatic that is totally serious and not a shitpost.
Amy
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In this movie she’s a general, sort of like in forces, but she still prides herself on being very cute and is still super sweet. She’s just a little more level-headed and has more of a goal since she doesn’t already know Sonic and wouldn’t have a motivation otherwise.
Amy comes from Mobius. She is going after Rouge after finding out she has a chaos energy detector and needing to find out that she’s up to.
Her relationship with Sonic is not necessarily romantic as I imagine that the moviemakers wouldn’t want to include that. However, it’s like the closest it can possibly get without crossing the barrier. I want to play with the idea of Amy being the more level-headed, caring, and detail-oriented one of the group. She’s there to remind everyone to slow down and use their heads. I want to see a scene where Sonic becomes overwhelmed and feels the need to rush into battle, but Amy centers him and time literally slows down, like a slo-mo shot, she becomes his anchor in that moment and is the only thing able to slow him down.
After Rouge’s redemption, they become besties and we can have a girl power moment during battle.
She also has a moment with Knuckles after he learns she’s part echidna which inspires him to think about a possibly different future for the echidna legacy as he’s never heard of a hybrid echidna before. Before that moment, the two would have likely butted heads.
I like the head cannon of her being Anna Kendrick. But for some reason, when thinking about it originally my first thought for her was Kristen bell. Idk I think it fits
Shadow
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honestly I think that prime would be a pretty good blueprint for Shadow’s personality in the movie as he’s fucking awesome in that show, but I think the key difference is giving Shadow this sense of grief. He’s just full of anger and sorrow and fear because he just woke up from this 50 year stasis and is suddenly confronted with a lot of responsibility and stuff going on. Like a cross between his debut self in SA2 and his prime self.
Other than that, make him reckless and impulsive but also have this inflated ego and sense of justice or righteousness. But also let him get a little cocky during a fight and crack a joke every once in a while. You know, personality.
His role in the story is he’s brought back by Robotnik in order to complete the Robotnik family legacy and to harness the chaos emeralds to take over the world.
He has already been exposed to the information about the Chaos emeralds and so part of his role in the story is actually introducing this stuff to Sonic.
Like, I want a scene where Shadow explains how Sonic’s power and the emeralds’ power are one in the same, yet he doesn’t know why or how, and he shows Sonic how to use chaos control.
I think initially he and Sonic would be similar to Knuckles and Sonic in the second movie where they just kind of fight and Sonic is like “who is this chump” but as each of them become genuinely curious about Sonic and the emeralds and Shadow gets suspicious of Robotnik, they sort of convene and try to find the truth. And they’re each trying to bring the other to their own side, but then they realize they’re kind of on the same side anyway.
And then at the end we find out his dramatic backstory with Maria and Gerald. I physically NEED us to see his backstory in the movie it would be so good. I want to see Shadow being created. His adventures with Maria and them bonding, and then her tragic death. And I want Maria to be played either by some random Disney channel child actress who will become a pop icon in the next 5 years or a random child actress from a very sad movie I’ve never heard of.
Also, if paramount wants the fans to be happy, all the Sonic and Shadow fights need to be animated by sonadow shippers I don’t make the rules that’s how you please us.
As for Shadow’s voice, I’m thinking Norman Reedus. He’s just kind of a badass and I think he could suit the role well. Also I find it funny
Part 3: the Jim issue… the jimssue. Nevermind
Eggman
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So, you may be wondering: how is eggman supposed to return if Jim Carrey retired? Well I have an idea and I think it’s fucking hilarious. My pitch is thus: Jim Carrey is not OUR egg man. OUR egg man that we see in the games is actually agent stone
We all know agent stone is kind of fruity, so what’s fruitier than taking your dead lover’s name, bioengineering yourself beyond recognition to achieve his intellect and completing his family’s legacy of project shadow in his honor?
Then it could even tie in to Knuckles’ theme about the difference between carrying on a legacy and letting it take over who you are as a person. While he’s no Jim Carey, I still like the actor for Stone and think it’s such a stupid idea it just might work.
Plus, I imagine Eggman ends up following sonic to Mobius and I love the idea of every evil plot that he commits in cannon being fueled by him grieving his dead gay lover Jim Carrey who’s identity he stole.
Part 4: Misc
(Btw if you’re wondering why I haven’t mentioned any of the new human characters yet that’s because I don’t care about them)
Other things include a shot of mobius where we can get a bunch of character cameos in the background like team chaotix or cream and Vanilla.
We can get a modern band to do a cover of escape from the city because I feel like that’s the song everyone knows but we got to get crush 40 to do a remastered version of live and learn.
Knuckles needs to stop talking like a robot it’s weird especially in the end scene of sonic 2 why does he talk like that. I imagine that considering they’re giving him his own spin-off series this will end up being toned down but I just hope it’s not laid on as thick in sonic 3. I’m fine with him not understanding earth stuff cause like he’s an alien but he doesn’t have to speak in fractured sentences.
Pumpkin hill leitmotif. I don’t care where I don’t even care if they don’t go to pumpkin hill just put in the doo doo doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo-do-
Part 5: conclusion
So yeah I think that’s it…
Bye.
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bytedykes · 2 years ago
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More ritsu questions!!!! 9 and 11 and 14
hehe yes... YES...
9. Your least favorite outfit of them
already answered this one but to reiterate, his clothes are so #normal i cant really hate any of them <3 they are just not that memorable to me also... genuinely cant think of any outfits he wears beyond school uniform, the orange hoodie, and like. normal house clothes
11. What’s the first thing you think about when thinking about the character?
HN... THE LOANS... as well as all the panels of him being so not normal about spoons as well as how fucking SILLY this boy is!!!!! i love him so much!!! he is so FUCKING silly i could write a fucking essay about how silly he is! everything about ritsu is just so many layers of him being so fuckign WEIRD but being so vehement in his denial of that... he's literally ridiculous. he doesnt even listen to music. kicking my feet and twirling my hair fr
14. Best storyline they had
FUCK EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE BIG CLEANUP ARC!!! I FUCKING LOVE BIG CLEANUP ARC OK. i think it is so well done. like. the absolute GUILT AND DESPAIR ritsu is feeling, he is being CRUSHED under the weight of what he has done, he beats himself up about it so thoroughly he fucking manifests psychic powers, the thing he has been wishing for HIS WHOLE LIFE. and the cause of all this is because his classmate wanted to frame some guy for licking recorders. what the fuck for real
ok no i have more to say. its been a minute since i watched/read the big cleanup arc so forgive me if this is wrong, but iirc the whole reason ritsu goes along with kamuro's idea is because he wanted to protect mob. and like. its SO INTERESTING because he wants to keep mob safe so mob doesn't EXPLODE! he wants to like, keep mob in a bubble, he wants to bubblewrap him because mob is volatile, mob is dangerous, when mob gets stressed bad things happen and ritsu is scared! but also he loves his brother! he doesn't want delinquents bullying him! and even though he knows it's not like, great of them to frame people for perv things, he does it anyway and that leads to like a month straight of ritsu having the worst most haunted guilty paranoid time of his life lmao
plus in the anime we see more of ritsu being a model brother/student/son before his joker arc, which makes the contrast that much sharper and more impactful when he goes completely off the rails. also like the big cleanup arc is fucking hilarious . local teen goes thru so much stress he gains ability to blow things up with his mind. local teen starts beating the shit out of p- oh my god i just remembered he briefly pretended to be white t poison too how can u NOT love big cleanup arc. LOCAL TEEN STARTS BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLERS WITH HIS MIND POWERS, all while not refuting the claim that he is his brother's gangster alter ego. like. WHAT!!! he is insane!!!!
on top of that. ON TOP OF THAT. local teen lets an EVIL SPIRIT possess him, which is just so uniquely funny because its RITSU! ritsu who is mob's brother! ritsu who KNOWS about spirits and how dangerous they can be! ritsu who sees a green fart cloud offering to possess him in exchange for being able to bend spoons a little better and goes ALRIGHT BET and just. lets him. he just lets dimple possess him... he just lets him...
AND i also love the resolution to the big cleanup arc. like. yeah the segue into the claw arc is a little ehh and i kind of wish we'd spent more time watching ritsu jokerify himself but the scene where ritsu is so angry and yelling at mob and then mob tells ritsu that he's his little brother and he loves him? and then they hug it out? AGHHH. SO GOOD. literally the siblings of all time i fucking love big cleanup arc. holy fuck
ok and going back a bit it is just. SO INTERESTING to see how the mask unravels. suddenly ritsu isn't the kind, awed little brother who just wants to help mob, who fixes his spoons for him at the dinner table, who checks in on him at night. suddenly we see ritsu being bitter and jealous and resentful and SCARED of his brother and it's all of these conflicting feelings mixing around in his little 13 year old self of a pressure cooker and when that pressure cooker explodes... GOD. its so good. i love that. not even necessarily the reveal of "oh hes a little fucked up actually" itself but the CONTRAST of the perfect mask he wears and then the messy conflicted struggling 13 year old he actually is. like WOAG!!! HE IS SO 13!!!!!
anyway. i love big cleanup arc. thumbs up emoji
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