#Goh doesn't deserve the hate

[anika-kanroji16]

Does Goh deserve the hate?

Okay so if you don't know and I am sure you guys do know. Goh from Pokemon Journeys gets a lot of hate. Some I think for BULLSHIT REASONS. But today we gonna see why he gets hate and does he deserve it.

Now here the main reason well why many Pokemon YouTubers hate him and other people too.

"He catches too many Pokemon which loses the meaning of catches in the Pokemon anime" This. is. Stupid. For 1 reason. if you say he has no Emotional Connection to his Pokemon catches then Apparently Scorbunny, Grookey, Sobble, Suicune, Absol, White Fablabee, Cuibone, and Pincher do not exist to you. ESPECIALLY SCORBUNNY.

Exhibit A: Telling Scorbunny to not give up which makes Scorbuny want to be his partner and eventually he catches him. Scorbunny when Scorbunny wanted to do a Fire-type move He said if you can't do it just don't and that frustrated his Pokemon leading to an argument but then Goh finally understood Scorbunny's feelings and invented a fire type move. Another is his misunderstanding Raboot and almost abandoning it but even with that then he realizes that despite his disagreement with Raboot he cares about him still so he tries to get him.

Exhibit B :Another is Forcing Sobble to battle when he doesn't want to he makes up for it and apologizes When Sobble wants to train to be as good as he internally he uses a method that suits Sobble cowardly and scared cat nature instead of forcing him to do Pokemon battles and when he became Drizzlie he tried to force to make it happy but ended up learning about Drizzlie why forcing it was a bad idea and basically says "It okay if I don't understand what you going through I'll still be there" and connected with him deeper.

Exhibit C : A good example is him catching Suicune to save it from the Pokemon Hunters and being able to gain its trust through his actions

Exhibit D : Another time is he believes Aboel ain't no curse to the village which proves him innocent and leads Aboel to want to be caught by him

Exhibit E : Flabyee which leads to him finding a Flaybee's white flower does everything to find which leads him to leave Flaybee's to follow it dream of growing of those flowers.

Exhibit F : And Grookey because Grookey didn't want to stay with Team Rocket he wanted to stay with Goh and Goh wanted Grookey to be his partner too despite the fact that it's being from Team Rocket and when Grookey was forced to by Team Rocket, Goh protected it saying it doesn't want to go with you. In the episode where Grookey and Eevee go on an errand, we get a reunion of Goh and Grooky after being lost. And the Thameky episode where Goh gets to grow closer to Grookey in a sense.

With all these great examples so to say that "his catches makes Pokemon catches in Pokemon loses it's meaning" is just so fucking wrong and you just cheapening the catches that are meaningful. And it disgusted me to my core.

Another thing They like to call Goh a Mary Sue or Marty Sue for the males.

I am sorry but what is the definition of Mary or Marty Sue.

Mary/Mary Sue is Character which have no flaws.

Welp if you actually WATCH THE SHOW then you will know that he is not such a thing.

His main flaw is his inability to work together with other people like example when he wasn't able to work together with Gary during the raid battle it caused them to lose Gary basically said that Kindness might do more damage than good and also said Goh's main problem is cooperation with others and that made Goh remember Quillion's words in few episodes back when Quillion said the same thing. So to say That he's a perfect character is ridiculous it is even more ridiculous when a few episodes later Goh wants to go alone on a Project Mew mission and not be so attached to Ash. Plus Mary Sue means getting something that is not earned if Goh was a Mary Sue he would of earned an extra token during the Raid Battle Episode even tho he didn't deserve that extra token like Horace and Gary. But Goh didn't get an extra token and he knew deep down he needed to improve that why that flashback with Quillion's words came. All he got was a second chance to prove himself since he had the abilities and skills to be a Project Mew member and chaser he just needed to work on the cooperation. That alone made him a "Mary Sue" I am sorry so you saying that Ash NEVER did get a second chance like at all and don't you remember him getting some gym badges that he didn't earn at the start of the series. The only reason why Ash isn't a Mary or Marty sue for this is because his flaws are obvious to see at the start of the series and Misty and Brock remind him of the fact he didn't earn those two badges. And it is not all he didn't learn his lesson with cooperation because with Horace episode of them going to the same trial mission he worked together with Horace and with his trial mission with Gary was able to work together with him unlike last time and passed get to be a member of Project Mew. Just like with Ash finally earning a badge by himself.

Now let's go into another bullshit thing that they LOVE TO SAY ABOUT GOH

People like to hate on Goh is the fact he catches Pokemon too much and his goal was to catch them all people basically call him a Pokemon Hunter or say he just like Lawrence.

Which I will argue that you Goh haters are missing one TINY little detail separate Goh from Lawrence and Other Pokemon Hunters. Just one Tiny Detail.

You wanna know what it is

GOH CARES ABOUT HIS POKEMON!!!

He loves Pokemon, He cares about Pokemon, Have you seen Goh treat a Pokemon like How Team Rocket in XY treat Pokemon? No. You don't. You see him treat all of his Pokemon with kindness and respect. Have you seen Goh harm Pokemon or use freaking nets to trap the Pokemon inside? NO!! You don't. You seen him a Father to Grookey, A wingman for Pincher, who SAVES Suicune's LIFE and GAIN SUICUNE'S TRUST THOUGH HIS ACTIONS! A friend to Scorbunny and Cuibone and Believer in Axol and Sobble but NEVER and I mean NEVER TREATING POKEMON LIKE OBJECTS OR HURTING POKEMON!! So Goh haters calling him a Pokemon Hunter STFU. It is unbelievable for people to call him a pokemon hunter. WHEN HIS FUCKING ACTIONS IN THE SHOW SAYS OTHERWISE!!!

Not only that but his intentions are different

Pokemon Hunters: Catches Pokemon for profit

Lawrence III : See Pokemon as a collection.

Goh : Catches Pokemon to learn and understand them and cares about them too

Goh haters: I see no difference.

Use your brain that god fucking gives you. Or do you not have one.

And to say he isn't a great character or his role isn't interesting is simply not true. Goh is a character that explores the side of Pokemon that doesn't involve battling. You say Serena and Dawn but they do performances and you can say Gary but we don't see much of him to see that side so is a very good character and on top of that there his personality his relationships with Ash, Horace, Chloe and Gary ESPECIALLY HORACE AND ASH, It develops throughout the series and we get to his backstory too with Horace and His parents explaining how absent Goh's parents was in his life.

Now we only getting started I have learned from a YouTuber that Goh gets hate because he is queer and he made Ash fall in love with him since people assumed that he was straight.

People. You fell for Ash x Serena and Misty x Ash and assumed he was straight. And that was your first mistake. ;)

And I can say that for sure because Goh wasn't the first character that they had the goal of catching all Pokemon there was a girl in the manga and she gets WAY LESS HATE THAN GOH so it's probably because he is gay in truth. For this, I have to say

YOU HOMOPHOBIC BITCHES FUCK YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR!!! NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING GAY !!

I am not saying that all Goh haters are like this but I feel like most of them are.

Lastly People would hate on Goh because he is blaisan or black or just a black Pokemon character. And again those people FUCK THEM AND EVERYTHING THEY STAND FOR RACSIT ASS BITCHES.

In conclusion, Goh from Pokemon Jounreys, Doesn't deserve the hate he gets and it's fucking sad for him to get so much. But at the time even tho he gets haters there are a lot of people which LOVE HIM and I am one of those people and I wrote this post to say that Goh is an AMAZING CHARACTER AND I LOVE HIM TO BITS. He's awesome and amazing and the haters of him are just fking stupid.

[artical3237]

hi if you dont mind i would like to engage in a friendly arguement (nothing serious i just have an opinion too)

moltres just being there makes sense. in the games, a lot of mythicals are just. there. but i understand what you mean because the logic's honestly a bit wonky

i dont understand why seeing rayquaza already devalues chasing it. seeing it for the first time gives it mystery and gives roy a good goal. also, i doubt that he'll catch it. the lore doesn't look like it will lead up to it, and if he does, it's probably gonna be well-deserved since it's literally his goal for the entire series.

Like rayquaza, the teragapos is for the mystery and i doubt even more that liko will catch it. finding more about her pendant seems to be on the backburner of liko's mind unlike roy who's been taking every chance to find rayquaza.

i do completely understand your worry about the oversaturation of legendaries. it's honestly concerning me too especially with the whole goh and suicune thing (tbf they didnt outright give him suicune since suicune just used the pokeball to escape the hunters but like- still)

as for the progression of pokemon horizons compared to the original pokemon anime, i dont understand why ash getting bullied by an abra is better if that's what you're arguing... by that point ash is wandering around with a vague goal meanwhile roy has a clear goal snd liko is in the process of figuring hers out (not saying ash was not a good character ofc hes amazing but its just so infuriating and disheartening seeing people immediately hating on roy and especially liko for not being the same so i probably got off track whoops)

so basically i dont think that liko and roy will be getting free legendaries since they look too important for the lore to be like that. while i feel the placement of the legendaries to where they are in the main story is justified, but i would definitely appreciate some more time between the legendary reveals because of the whole motion sickness thing you mentioned.

anyways thanks for bothering to read this if you did but if you have no time to waste on a random internet opinion haver, i fully understand. anyways, yeah dont take it too personally or anything i just like pokemon horizons

Okay, I know I need to ignore Horizons. I know it. But-

Episode 22

Encounter Galarian Moltres- he is just there

Chasing a shiny Rayquaza that's already been seen

That Rayquaza will probably end up in the hands of a main character

The main character has a Teragapos in a magic pendant

That Teregapos may become her Pokemon later, officially or temporarily

At least three legendaries have appeared so far

By comparison-

The original anime's legendary count by this point was one (Ho-Oh)

Said legendary did not even notice Ash

Ash spent his Ep. 22 getting his ass kicked by an Abra

I know there are more legendary Pokemon now, but that doesn't justify all the legendaries appearing almost like regular mons. Sun/Moon and Journeys did this too, and it was just as dumb there (free Melmetal and Suicune?). But Horizons did it so fast that it gives me motion sickness.

[xxtc-96xx]

My hope is that Goh jumps off a bridge. I haven't forgotten about poor scorbunny. He deserved someone who didn't tell him to give up on improving himself and initially dismiss him in order to find a pokemon that, as far as anyone knows, doesn't exist.

Sorry, I've been holding that in for a while. Goh sucks

I don’t hate Goh lol considering he doesn’t act like that for most of the series, it was only the beginning when he was dumb and arrogant thinking his first Pokémon would be a mew. He treats his Pokémon well

[wallflower-koharu]

Now it's my turn to talk about the episode! I have to warn you that you can find unpopular opinion here.

I have to admit that I was reclutant at first because I was afraid that, like that happened in XY, that would be a shipping-related episode.

Also I have to admit that I'm not really a fan of Serena (but she had decent character development) or her main shipping, and I really feel uncomfortable with some fans who want Chloe to be like her in shipping-related theme.

They did share similarities in struggling to find a dream and having a Eevee, but Chloe is more quiet, introverted and more "on herself" compared to Serena.

I did expect them to meet, but on earlier episodes... I thought that leak was a joke lmao.

Ok, now we talk about the episode: Chloe is in Hoenn to watch contest, and Lisia, like in the ORAS game, wants to scout her. Ash and Goh are supposed to go to cheer on her, but they couldn't, and Chloe and Eevee meet Sylveon and Serena.

They talked about their dreams, and I love their interactions. Serena grew and matured off screen, as symbolized by her starter pokemon evolution.

And May got mentioned! I knew she wouldn't come back because of things that happened with the voice actress, so I was thrilled seeing her in a cameo and getting mentioned as "the princess of Hoenn"

I liked Goh and Chloe's friendship here. The last time I liked it was when Chloe caught Eevee. (Don't hate me please) He really wanted to cheer on her friend making a big step towards the pokemon world, and even if he couldn't make it, he watched her on his phone.

Then, the unexpected, a Serena and Ash interaction. Finally she doesn't blush and isn't ankward anymore, and Ash mentions that they traveled together. They talk normally and talk about their dreams. I was uncomfortable about the fact they would put an embarassing scene / flashbacks about them. (I'm talking about you, fever episode)

The few negative parts: Lisia deserved more screen time. If I didn't knew about her in the game, I wouldn't have get her role here.

I know the episode wanted a reason to not make Ash and Serena meet (only at last), but Ash not caring about Chloe was forced. He was always supportive of her friends' dreams (he was the one asking about her non being interested in pokemon in the first episodes, and asking her to join them in some times). They could have shown him being interested in her contest but not being able to attend it because of other reasons (idk)

Anyway, I'm glad this is the final Eevee episode but not the final of Chloe's character development. She needs other episodes exploring other careers, maybe battling too!

[anika-kanroji16]

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