#Dutch uses the money to buy things he doesn't need but are luxuries he wants
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Parallels between Jamie and Arthur
The relationship between what happened to Jamie with The Chelonia cult and Arthur's situation with the band seems to me to be quite similar.
Jamie came from a family that was quite dysfunctional, his mother had died and his father treated him badly and constantly despised him, so he needed to find a place where he was validated and felt accepted. To do this, he joined The Chelonia cult, where they told him what to think, what to say, what to do, and they took his money for the supposed "donations." Jamie knew that they were manipulating him and that everything about the cult was a lie, but he still stayed there because it was the only place where he felt accepted and where people treated him well.
Like Jamie, Arthur did not have a structured family and was alone since he was little until Dutch and Hosea adopted him and he began to be part of the band. Dutch made sure that Arthur had the same ideals as him and at all times he told him how to do things and what was the correct way to think and act. Arthur had his own way of seeing things and he didn't always agree with what Dutch said and did but he always gave in and in the end he ended up doing what Dutch wanted even though it wasn't what he wanted, partly because of Dutch's manipulation and the need for validation and because he felt like he owed him his life. He always saw Dutch deteriorating more and more but he never left the band, first because it wasn't that easy but mostly because it was the only family he had and the only people who had accepted him and that was the only life he knew.
"They're using you, they're telling you what you want to hear" In the end, Dutch used emotional manipulation to control people, especially Arthur, spontaneously giving him validation and calling him son so that in the end he would do the things Dutch wanted.
I love how Jamie asks him "and what do you know about that, Arthur?" I would say quite a bit, taking into account the dynamics of the Van der Linde gang and Arthur's relationship with Dutch.
#plus the donations in the band... it also seems similar to the cult to me#those donations help the rest of the camp yes#but they always invest money first in Dutch and then the rest#like when you improve the camp#the first store to be improved is Dutch#Dutch uses the money to buy things he doesn't need but are luxuries he wants#I bet the clothes he wears are pretty expensive too#in the end a lot of the gang's money just goes to Dutch#also Dutch never donates money#maybe all Arthur was telling Jamie was what he thought about his situation...#or maybe I'm thinking too much#ugh I wish I could structure this better but I'm horrible at putting things into words#red dead redemption community#red dead fandom#red dead redemption 2#rdr2 community#rdr2#rdr2 arthur#arthur morgan
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