#Caulifla SSJ

[pa-sylvie]

Your honour, the fags (part 2)

[saiyanmazen]

I have not included all the different levels of forms (like ascended, full power etc) because this has a limit of 12 and I think I counted 20 forms in total.

[instructionsonback]

[askginenbardock]

Timebreaker Bardock comforts you after a Break up

You stood out in the middle of the night staring at the moon with tears falling down your eyes.

"None of it was real" You sighed.

Timebreaker Bardock emerges at the scene and watches as you sat down on the grass crying. You notice his shadow and quickly stand up and wipe your tears.

"You okay?" Timebreaker asks.

"Me? I'm... fine... yeah there's nothing to worry about"

"Well it sounded like you were crying back there. Usually I don't get the urgency to time travel to check what's going on. But something is really off here, and if you don't get up and sort it out, you are going to mess up your timeline and not reach your full potential. That has detrimental effects on your timeline."

"I've given up long ago. Love isn't real. There's nothing to do now. I have no purpose. He was my purpose. And now he's gone..."

Bardock rolled his eyes as he placed his hand on your shoulder firmly.

"Do you know how stupid you sound? Making an entire person your purpose, again? We know what happened last time with your other ex."

"Do you have to remind me of my past mistakes and how stupid I am and how I never learn?"

"No. I am reminding you of your patterns. You transferred all that love you had to the wrong person, to another wrong person. This cycle repeats. You need to stop it."

"But I really thought I had it right this time... And then he betrayed me! When I least expected it!"

"Well, betrayal always happens when you least expect it"

"You seem to know a lot about that"

"Yeah... when Frieza betrayed me after I had been working for him my whole life, and when the saiyans betrayed me after not listening to me about what Frieza was going to do to the planet. I know a thing or two about betrayal. Truth is, you cannot prevent it. No matter what. Just remember that your traitors are miserable. They betray you because they have low self worth.

"You think so, timebreaker?"

"They always end up miserable. You just work on yourself. I know it's hard to cope with the betrayal. I know you're still in shock and you're trying to get over it. Take your time. You will heal. Just don't go back. And don't keep chasing guys for them to fix you. They can't fix you."

"I do have that problem..."

"Look, kid, you're not alone. My wife Gine had that problem. She was boy-crazy her whole life. Chasing guy after guy, sometimes even multiple guys. But no matter how many guys she took home she never felt alright. She wanted more and more, and she couldn't validate herself so she needed their validation. She got over that when she learned to be alone and learned to value herself. You should do the same."

"Thank you so much, timebreaker. I'll definitely use your advice. I won't mess up the timeline. I'll get up, and I'll find my love, but I'll find myself first! It's not the end of the world that I made a mistake or trusted the wrong person. It's a lesson learned!"

"Good. Don't make my job harder." the blond time-breaking warrior said as he left off to space.

[oneredezrookie]

Some more DB Redez ideas Ssj Edition! I think I have a lot to work on with these redesigns, Cabba in particular.

[sometipsygnostalgic]

Super Saiyan Tingly Feeling

Caulifla's transformation into Super Saiyan 1/2 is trashy and underwhelming and demystifies Super Saiyan, but I also love it as the logical conclusion for Super Saiyan fan theories.

Like... Goku could turn Super Saiyan all the way back in Namek saga. Caulifla and Kale are wAAAAAAAAY stronger than Goku was back at Namek, so it makes sense that their bodies are able to handle not only SSJ1, but also higher forms of SSJ. If one's ability to turn super saiyan is capped by their body's own strength, rather than being inherent to all Saiyans regardless of power, then this makes sense.

We can also view this compared to Goten and Trunks. Now, Future Trunks had to train quite hard to turn Super Saiyan, he had to feel "the Rage", but he and Gohan got there as children, much sooner than Goku. Then, in the main timeline, Goten and Trunks both seemed to have an inherent super saiyan ability. In Trunks' case, the presence of Vegeta and Goten would have made him more likely to discover this ability, and in Goten's case, not only was Goku already a super saiyan when he was concieved (unlike Gohan and future Trunks), he's also had Trunks and Gohan (and ChiChi???) to compete with. The higher base power level combined with a competitive environment helped them out.

So, Kale and Caulifla are much stronger than Goten and Trunks, who seemed to always have the ability to transform without the need for any sort of blood ending rage (unless you count being a kid).

How does a Super Saiyan transform without feeling blood ending rage? Well it obviously happens all the time. While Vegeta is always mad, and Gohan sometimes needs that extra push, Goten and Trunks and Goku clearly do not need anger to transform.

So, of course, they do it via a "tingly feeling on their back"!!!! How mechanical. It's so stupid, but I love it.

Only Caulifla who probably doesn't feel rage any more than Goku required this method to learn to transform. Her body is incredibly strong so she could reach SSJ2 off the bat. The show teases SSJ3, I think she does have the physical strength for it, it probably requires a psychological push though. Even Gotenks didn't go SSJ3 until Goten watched his mother die and trained super hard.

Kale, though... I'd be shocked if this was the first time Kale transformed. Her form is just called "a berserk super saiyan" in show, but it's clearly "legendary super saiyan" from the movies. She has so much gay anger that I can imagine her transforming once before to beat the shit out of someone who smacktalked Caulifla or got too close to her. Maybe Caulifla is so strong that Goku was the first, but it's clear that Kale is the physically stronger of the two girls, even with Caulifla's super saiyan 2.

Cabba got the Vegeta treatment and Vegeta probably isn't aware of the tingly-feeling-on-your-back method. He just uses his unending well of rage to transform every time. He wouldn't teach Cabba such a pussy haxxor method of going Super Saiyan. Cabba needs to understand the RAGE OF HIS ANCESTORS.

[sweetescapeartist]

FULL POWER FORMS & SUPER SAIYAN GRADE FORMS

These forms allow for characters to amplify their physical strength by swelling their ki to expand their muscles mass & height as it greatly increases the physical power of their current form. I categorize these forms as "Partial Full Power" & "100% Full Power" forms.

Now, here are the characters who have used these "Full Power" forms. (If I missed any, let me know.)

ROSHI: 🕶️🐢

Normal • Partial Full Power • 100% Full Power

GARLIC JR (Z Films): 🧄

Normal • Transformed (100% Full Power)

FREEZA: 🧊

Normal • Partial Full Power • 100% Full Power

VEGETA: 🥗🐒

Normal base • Normal SSJ • SSJ Grade 2 (Partial Full Power)

TRUNKS: 🩳🐒

Normal base • Normal SSJ • SSJ Grade 2 (Partial Full Power) • SSJ Grade 3 (100% Full Power)

GOKU: 🥕🐒

Normal base • Normal SSJ • SSJ Grade 2 (Partial Full Power) • SSJ Grade 3 (100% Full Power)

CELL: 🧬

Normal • Partial Full Power • 100% Full Power

BROLY (Z Films): 🥦🦍

Normal base • Restrained SSJ • Normal SSJ • Legendary SSJ (100% Full Power)

GOKUA (Z Films): 🏴‍☠️

Normal • Transformed (100% Full Power)

ZANGYA (Z Films): 🏴‍☠️

Normal • Powered-up (Partial Full Power)

BOJACK (Z Films): 🏴‍☠️

Normal • Transformed (100% Full Power)

TRUNKS (DBS anime): 🩳🐒

SSJ • SSJ2 • Super Saiyan Rage (Transformed 100% Full Power)

MERGED ZAMASU (DBS anime): 🐵☯🍏

Merged Zamasu • Merged Zamasu [Corrupted] • Merged Zamasu [Corrupted] (100% Full Power)

FROST (DBS anime): ❄️

Normal • 100% Full Power

CAULIFLA (DBS anime): ⚪🥦🐵

Normal base • Normal SSJ • SSJ Grade 3 (100% Full Power)

KALE (DBS anime): 🥬🦍

Normal base • Berserker SSJ (100% Full Power) • Controlled Berserker SSJ (Controlled Full Power)

TOPPO (DBS anime): ♨️

Normal • GoD Form (100% Full Power)

SSGSS VEGETA (DBS anime): 🥗🐒

Normal SSB • SSBE (Controlled 100% Full Power)

JIREN (DBS anime): 👽

Normal • Full Power (100% Full Power) • Awakened (Beyond/Super Full Power)

BROLY (DBS anime): 🥦🦍

Normal base • Wrathful State [Stage 2] (Full Power base/Humanoid Oozaru) • Normal SSJ • Full Power SSJ (Legendary SSJ)

GAS (DBS manga): ⛽

Normal base • Instincts Released (100% Full Power) • Instincts Controlled (Controlled Full Power) • Burning (Partial Life Reserves) • Zombie (Life Reserves) • Instincts Released Zombie (Life Reserves 100% Full Power)

THE FLAW OF FULL POWER FORMS: 📉

Often times, the Full Power forms are more of a liability than a benefit. Most quickly burn through ki & put strain on the body while giving brute strength at the cost of speed. All which can make the user vulnerable in a life-or-death battle.

In the case of Kale, Broly, & Gas, their increased muscle mass didn't cost them speed. Instead, their Full Power forms caused them to temporarily lose their sanity; something that can put their own life at risk as well as others they may care about.

However, there are characters who have been able to make use of the Full Power forms immediately without losing speed, stamina, or sanity. Examples being SS Rage Trunks, Merged Zamasu, GoD Toppo, SSBE Vegeta, and Jiren (Full Power & Awakened).

EXTRA THOUGHTS:

Certain names of the transformations are just what I call them. Like Kale's Controlled Berserker SSJ, Jiren's Awakened Full Power state, and all of the names for Gas' forms.

Super Saiyan Grade 2 & 3 forms are essentially Roshi's buffer forms repurposed for a Super Saiyan.

I decided to not classify Freeza's "True Golden Freeza" Form as a Full Power Form of Golden Freeza because it appears to be more akin to Super Saiyan Grade 4/Mastered Super Saiyan.

Knowing that Freeza can increase his power by percentages, this would imply the same for other characters who use Full Power forms. Roshi's semi-buff form would possibly be about 70% while his Full Power form is 100%. Super Saiyan Grade 2 may be about 80% or so depending on the character, while Super Saiyan Grade 3 is 100%.

There's a reason you don't see a Full Power SSJ2 or a Full Power SSJ3 used in combat. Most Full Power forms are not stable and would only be good if they can land a hit. And with the stamina drain of SSJ3, a "SSJ3 Grade 3" would be a very pointless form that greatly multiplies the stamina drain.

I didn't include Majin Vegeta as a Full Power form despite it being SSJ2 Vegeta at Full Power. The power Vegeta recieved was not entirely his own & was power beyond his limits granted to him by magic. He was not using a Grade 3 form either, so I did not consider it to be a Full Power form in the same sense as the others on the list.

From what I can tell, Super Saiyan Rage could be some sort of "SSJ2 form of SSJ2." Meaning its a unique form above SSJ3. Before transforming into Super Saiyan Rage, a SSJ2 Trunks bulks up into a "SSJ2 Grade 3." Then, Trunks controls the power, slims down, gains a new aura, gets sharper and longer hair, & temporarily lacks pupils/irises. This is like Kale's Controlled Berserker SSJ form, but seemingly on a higher level. Future Trunks had already gotten his SSJ2 form to be almost as strong as SSJ3, so a "Controlled Full Power SSJ2 form" (SS Rage) would probably put him on a level around or a bit above SSG. (Maybe I should make a post about Super Saiyan Rage in the future. 🤔) On the other hand, Controlled Berserker SSJ Kale is shown to be somewhat below SSG Goku in DBS EP 114 when she & SSJ2 Caulifla fought SSG Goku when he had his gaurd up. So... from what I can tell, Super Saiyan Rage is a transformation of SSJ2 that began as "SSJ2 Grade 3" before Trunks controlled his Full Power & transformed. Thus, I classified Super Saiyan Rage as a Full Power transformation similar to SSBE. (If you disagree & have evidence of some sort, share it with me so I can adjust my thoughts as needed.)

After transforming into SSBE, Vegeta said "This is everything I have, Jiren!" So, I classified Vegeta's SSBE as some sort of improved version of the Full Power form while using SSB. It's basically Vegeta as SSB Grade 3, but slimmed down due to god ki giving him better control of the form, so there is no speed drawback. In a way, it's similar to how Trunks transformed into Super Saiyan Rage. Like Father, like son I suppose.

I wonder if DBS Broly's green haired SSJ form is his SSJ form mixed with the power of his Wrathful State (the Humanoid Oozaru form). With how the Wrathful State [Stage 2] made Broly grow in height and muscle mass, and how the Legendary SSJ form makes Broly turn giant and buff... Maybe his Full Power SSJ form is indeed SSJ combine with a [Stage 2] or a hypothetical [Stage 3] of Broly's Wrathful State power? 🤔

The DBS Manga continuity version of Broly's forms differs from its animated counterpart from what I can tell. DBS manga Broly is more similar to DBS manga Kale. [DBS manga Broly & DBS manga Kale have Base • Super Saiyan • Full Power Super Saiyan.]

I believe Zangya was in a partial Full Power form because she had to power-up against Krillin. When she did, her hair stayed floating upwards during her entire battle with Krillin. Her hair returned to normal only after she defeated him. She clearly had to power-up. But, does Zangya have her own green-skinned transformation like Bojack & Gokua? It's possible. Or perhaps she wasn't able to use a Full Power form like them just yet. We didn't see Bido or Bujin power-up to a Full Power form either. It seems like most of the crew don't have access to that Full Power transformation. So, this powered-up state Zangya used against Krillin could be her "Partial Full Power" if she can transform, or even her current "full power" if she cannot transform a true Full Power form. I currently believe that it is Zangya's "Partial Full Power" form & she hadn't unlocked the Full Power transformation yet.

I disagree with the idea of Krillin using the the Full Power form as a "power-up" like Roshi does because it wouldn't allow him to even touch a stronger opponent due to the buff form's speed reduction. As shown in Resurrection F, the Full Power form still quickly depleted Roshi's stamina & Krillin had to come in to save him. Some ppl say it will make Krillin taller, so it's a good form for him. However, being of short stature is actually an advantage because Krillin is harder to hit and his opponent will underestimate his strength like Piccolo did during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, & like how Vegeta & Nappa underestimated Krillin's strength & skill when he fought them. Plus, Krillin being short is not only part of his character appeal, but it is also a reference to Journey To The West.

Since the buff form is pointless for most characters (unless its a controlled Full Power Form), the best goal for the Krillin and the other Earthling fighters would be for them to utilize masterful ki control & performance in their normal state rather than greatly increasing their muscle mass with ki. As displayed by Krillin, Non-Self State is the next level of Earthling "transformation." But, rather than physical, it is a spiritual transformation; a transformation of internal energy. Hopefully Krillin's Non-Self State makes a return in some form & the other Earthling warriors recieve a similar power-up in the future as well. I have my doubts, but fingers crossed. 🤞

[fat-hedonistic-hogs]

Caulifla trying to use ssj grade 3 to match with kale's berserk form but ending a cute butterball the legendary siayan gal can pick up..

She usually ends up being a very adorable (and grumpy) weight for the berserker to lift.

[lolbitninjago3]

SSJ Caulifla and SSJ Kale

[multiversal-pig-outing]

grade 3 ssj Caulifla

[duhragonball]

I really liked the Luffa/Goku fight, but it seemed like Goku was kind of in the lead that whole match. He got out of every trap and situation she put him in, and she could never really get a proper lead on him. He seemed to have an answer for everything she tried, from ghosts to raw power to grapples. Was it your intention to make the fight a reversal of her usual dominance of her opponents, or did it just seem that way to me?

He had an edge through the entire fight, but it was experience rather than raw power.

So, that fight was something I had been putting together in my head for several years. As far back as 2007, I remember imagining Luffa somehow meeting Goku in the future, and seeing him show off Super Saiyan 3 and blowing her mind.

Then Xenoverse 1 came out in 2015, and I realized I had a way to set up an actual fight between them. But I had to figure out how to balance the thing, especially since Battle of Gods had come out and changed the way Super Saiyan works.

What I settled on was that this could go to my advantage, as SSJ Goku could plausibly be stronger than SSJ3 Goku, depending on how well he could handle godly ki. So somewhere around 2017 I privately settled on Luffa being somewhere at the level Goku was when his Super Saiyan God power ran out in Battle of Gods. She looks like a conventional SSJ1, but she's stronger than that, so Goku could cycle through Super Saiyan 1 2 and 3 and she'd still be able to keep up with him, because her power increases the longer she's in the transformed state.

Then Dragon Ball Super started, and Goku used the Kaio-ken on Hit, which kind of irked me because I wanted to use that spot against Luffa. Then the Tournament of Power happened and Goku had this heartwarming match with Caulifla and Kale, which sort of tapped into some of the same emotions I wanted to do with my thing. And then Super Hero had Goku and Vegeta fight to a virtual dead heat. So I had to do a lot of figuring to keep Luffa vs. Goku fresh.

Ultimately, what I wound up with was the idea of the two of them slugging it out, and Luffa gradually surpasses Goku in power, but it doesn't bother him because he's chill about that predicament, and willing to get creative to play it out. He can use Super Saiyan 2 to try to recover more of that level he was at while fighting Beerus in Battle of Gods, but he's not sure it's worth the risk, so he doesn't try it until she corners him.

So now he's the one with the edge on power, except she's still getting stronger and closing the gap. Eventually she surpasses him again, but like before, Goku relishes that challenge, and he's too resilient to let it bother him.

If it seems like Goku always had the upper hand, that's only because he handled himself so well during the times when he didn't have the upper hand. In a pinch, he could fall back on his bag of tricks and stay in the game. Luffa could try to overwhelm him with power moves, but Goku's too skilled to let that rattle him. And if Luffa were more accustomed to fighting other Super Saiyans, maybe she'd get less flustered by this sort of thing. But as it is, he's fifteen years older than she is, and Goku can really get in your head if you let him.

Finally, once he resorts to Super Saiyan 3, they're both kind of rattled, because Goku knows he's at the end of his rope, and he isn't sure he can beat her before he's forced to power down, and she's barely a match for him at all. It's like the end of a pro wrestling match where both guys have already used their finishers a few times. By now it's just a question of who makes the next mistake, or who succumbs to exhaustion first.

At least, that's what I was going for. I wanted to make it an even match, but not in the same sense as Goku-Vegeta III on Beerus' Planet, where they were literally so evenly matched that they wore each other down at almost the exact same rate. That works, but only because Vegeta is such a close rival to Goku. Luffa has a radically different background, and their powers work differently, so even though they were similar in power, there were a lot more wild swings in advantage.

[op-dbz-ladies]

Caulifla could definitely beat the snot out of first form frost (without ssj)

Thanks to accelerated potential growth. She’s similar to SSJ Teen Gohan in terms of power in base during Buu saga time.

Frost is cooked.

[osil-dibujos]

Caulifla ssj

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[bigchampa]

“Alright! Here let me show you something I picked up!” Caulifla said before taking a breath. A red aura explodes around her and soon dissipated revealing Caulifla with the godly aura of SSJ god.

Champa stared at her closely, being slightly intrigued at the form. "You really have been training, hm? Not bad at all...but what good is power if you are going to show it off?" The feline grinned. "So...hurry up and show me what you got."

[sutureart]

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