#But I'm not familiar w how it affects other groups (I have seen ppl bring up the way Native American men's hair is treated but I don't know

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also not adding to the previous post. Just bc it's more Abt features than culture. I rember a fucking transmed (remember those fuckers) posting like "real trans men hate themselves bc they have a soft face" (I'm being overly reductive but it was implying that masculinity Required the absence of soft facial features) and all I could think was

CIS ASIAN MEN JUST LOOK LIKE THAT SOMETIMES. MY DADS FACE IS PRETTY FUCKING ROUND.

Like. To be clear. Cis white men and women will have infinite facial shape variety like everyone else on this fucking planet. But some shapes tend to be more common in different ethnicities/races/whatever.

And this barely scratches the surface- a lot to f women of color, esp Black women face similar shit for """"masculine""""" features like their body type, body hair, face shapes esp noses, fucking!!!! And how that is doubly harmful for trans women of color!!!!

(I'd say east Asians tend to get the opposite, being treated as "inherently feminine" as opposed to "inherently masculine". And while I know generally Black, West + South Asian, and Nonwhite Central + South American women are similarly denied femininity, Im not familiar with how Southeast + Central Asians, and all diff indigenous ppls and groups thru out the world are specifically affected by racist degendering and similar stuff. I know colorism often plays a part, but from what I can tell that tends to be a bit different from the way- like a pale Arab and Black women will likely still be seen as "masculine" because of being Arab/Black, and it just become more severe with colorism)