#BUT. Shiv herself is not a feminist. That isn't part of her character.
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Shiv stans will literally think infantilising her to remove her from any responsibility of her actions is a hot take lol. Mf, Shiv is an adult like everyone else on this show, she's responsible for her actions. She's not a little feminist angel who has no agency.
#let me be clear: Shiv is a feminist CHARACTER cos she's one of the best most nuanced and complex female characters of all time#and she's allowed to be messy in what she does + ignore her morals if it helps her get ahead. She's flawed in the way we actually want#female characters to be flawed and furthermore explores the female experience in a way that's actually relatable#eg. struggling with your own internalised misogyny that's been instilled in you from living in a patriarchal sexist society#BUT. Shiv herself is not a feminist. That isn't part of her character.#Acting like she's this poor little helpless woman trapped in a room full of evil men that are taking advantage of her#is SO fucking stupid and reductive of her character and she would literally loathe you for thinking that about her#(that she has no agency at all - which is plainly untrue. she is literally the catalyst in the finale)#she's not your little angel baby who has done no wrong. just like everyone else on the show#she's an asshole.#Shiv Roy#succession HBO#every time i have to interact with a Shiv Stan against my will is the equivalent of getting dog shit on my shoe.
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