#And Thingol won't even invite any of finwe's grandkids to his house for *dinner* except the ones he's related to
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Good point! I won't lie, I'm not great with the Journey chronology, and also the entire teleri situation just... it's weird. It's weird, right? It doesn't quite pass the sniff test, idk. And Finwe's not exactly proactive once he does find out that Elwe vanished:
"and Finwë grieved when the Teleri came not, and yet more when he learned that Elwë was forsaken, and knew that he should not see him again, unless it were in the halls of Mandos."
(There is also, of course, an argument to be made that Elu and Miriel both ditched him first and that the Melkor choice was driven by the wider will of the noldor population. But then, I suspect that the people who go around calling themselves the forsaken aren't entirely open to alternate perspectives, and Finwe's descendents' record of kinslaying isn't likely to do Finwe's own reputation any favors.)
A nasty, bitter sentiment that I know in my heart was common among the umanyar who knew Finwe, especially among the sindar:
Of course the man who forgot (abandoned) Elwe for the sparkling new allure of Aman would also forget (abandon) miriel for someone fresh and new like Indis. Would forget the dead and stolen of Cuivienen in favor of the political path of least resistance and invite Melkor into his city.
#Tolkien#I do find it interesting that finwe and elwe and presented as close friends#But we... don't actually see either of them go out of the way to help the other?#Like. You can't say Jirt doesn't know how to write a compelling friendship!#But as far as I recall finwe never even considers going to look for elwe once olwe & Co arrive#Doesn't ask the valar to go looking or check in on the people left behind (which would be fully reasonable)#And Thingol won't even invite any of finwe's grandkids to his house for *dinner* except the ones he's related to#And that's *before* he finds out about the kinslaying#Meanwhile finwe's grandson famously walked into actual hell to rescue a friend who had apparently betrayed him **#Like. Jirt establishes high standards of friendship#And I never feel like finwe and elu get further than 'neighborly; political allies' level#**And luthien did the same for her boyfriend so like. Both families have demonstrated extreme loyalty!#Idk. It's weird. It feels like the truth has been heavily wallpapered over. The loremasters gave that chunk of history the landlord special#BUT. the umanyar who buy a deep finwe&elwe friendship? Deeply resent finwe.#Sorry this is just all over the place now. Fully incoherent.
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