#Also I didn't realize until this comic that her TAS costume is meant to be like the the dark points on a siamese cat--cute!!!

[nitewrighter]

Your CatBat fic inspired me, so... a headcanon: Selina Kyle is a natural redhead. When she makes particularly ill-advised decisions, Bruce (or one of the other Batfam) make Ginger Cat braincell jokes. Damian: "Father? Where is Selina?" Bruce: "She tried to rob Maroni's vault with no prep. I'm going to get her." D: "Ah. I see someone else was holding the Brain Cell today." B: "Damian." D: "Sorry, Father." Two minutes before: Oracle: "B, this is Oracle. Chatter says Maroni caught someone trying to break into the vault. Sounds like Catwoman." B: "Dammit, someone else must have had the brain cell."

I mean, for me, my Catwoman's hair will always be either dark brown-to-black , though I do have a soft spot for Blonde Catwoman (Michelle Pfeiffer and Batman: TAS catwoman).

Like--

She's literally so unserious.

She is doing this because she needs enrichment!!

If you go back to the original Bob Kane commentary on the development of Catwoman, it's very standard-fare 1940's misogyny (It's like straight up "She's a cat because cats and women are duplicitous and I don't trust them and I have no female friends!") It's kind of nice that as the character has developed over the years, that she's not only gotten a lot more sympathy, but her character's gotten more humor as well.

No one:

Selina Kyle:

[cyborgartalchemist2]

Imagine being so fucking aggressive about a ship you make jokes about Magneto and that very groomer scene from X-Men 97 that just... excuse the behavior? Because that doesn't sound very progressive in my opinion. Like yeah... rape culture in relationships just permeats fucking shipping but lets do nothing to argue against it. Lets make jokes that perpetuate the behavior and excuse men taking advantage of women.

To me having Magneto take advantage of a much younger mutant under his tutelage because she's desperate for physical connection and he's the only one she can touch is meant to showcase A) how Gambit contrasts Magneto and B) remind us that Magneto is never above using mutants for his own gains.

If this were reality most people would be calling Magneto a groomer and worse. We know Rogue was still a teen when Mystique took her in. We know that she's been an X-man for a few years. So Magneto was patient enough to wait until she turned 18?

Historically he hasn't done well with his love life. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's mom left him without telling him he fathered children because she was scared of him! (I'm only going on TAS and 97 here since this is an adaptation.) So where in the high heavens does everyome think he would be good for Rogue?

I don't care about the 'better than Remy' arguments because that's not the point! The point of who you ship Rogue with should be about if it's a relationship that is good for her! Is she their equal? Does she get treated with respect? Magneto looked at the Genosha council and without asking Rogue said "I'll lead but only if this woman I am trying to get back is my queen". LIKE DOES THAT EVEN SOUND MATURE? Magneto shows up, sees Gambit and Rogue being even mildly affectionate and starts pulling asshole moves on Rogue. And the narrative did nothing to make Rogue stand up for herself (which she would have) she should have told Erik "I'm a big girl I can get my own sugar for my coffee." She is shown numerous times to remind everyone she is no one's 'territory'.

Also wish to address the fact that making Rogue x Magneto comes with a 'sex is the only thing that matters!' Flavor that is exactly what so many of us are tired of in shipping. When did shipping stop being about the drama of a couple fighting against a narrative that pushes them apart or about finding love in the most unconventional of places, like alien hunting? And become solely about how nasty they can fuck? Seriously?

AND it's so blandly hetero it's not even funny. Because honestly the ways in which a couple can experience pleasure that don't involve traditional p in v penetration is vast and wild and there are enough types of gear and costumes and the like to facilitate that between Rogue and Gambit. Because that's all the argument has to stand on, is which man can fulfill her sexual needs. WHICH SHE HERSELF REALIZED WASN'T ENOUGH. She kisses Erik and goes "nope they're ain't any sparks there. This isn't going to be fulfilling ever."

Not to mention the fact that I can't genuinely see Magneto offering to die for Rogue. Sorry that grandstanding in Genosha was not the same. It was barely a heroic move... he still didn't save the Morlocks he promised to protect... he still failed. He couldn't save Leech and he couldn't stop the Sentinel either. Because yeah Magneto attempted to save Rogue and Gambit, but he did nothing to save the Morlocks at his side and he also survived without taking out the giant killer robot... but Gambit? Gambit said fuck it, gonna take this motherfucker to hell with me. He stopped Rogue from facing the sentinel so he could. And he actually stopped it. All on his own. Because that's what an x-man would do. Sure Magneto protectdd two people but sacrificed the morlocks yet again...

AND ON THE SUBJECT OF ROGUE x GAMBIT

Has Gambit always been great with Rogue? No, but that was the 90s and now look at how he handles shit? Comics writing has grown. It was a lot more heternormative and still had lots of rape culture hold overs in it.

Look at the episode when Cody shows up. He uses Rogue's connection to him from the past and then puts her in a situation that almost takes away her humanity. Her powers, which was what lured her into this trap in the first place, saved her from a man taking advantage of her. And the one time Gambit (in TAS) takes advantage of her, Morph in her form, told him to come and get some from her first. (So while he should have paused and woke Rogue up before kissing her, he had what he thought was an invitation.)

Gambit takes Rogue's decision to rule Genosha with Magneto incredibly well. He doesn't get mad, he doesn't call Rogue names, he doesn't do anyhting to hurt Rogue the way she is hurting him. He accepts it like a gentleman. Unlike Magneto who pursued Rogue's affections in unhealthy ways.

So uh... yeah that's my fucking rant.

[angstandhappiness]

LMAO ACCURATE

Your CatBat fic inspired me, so... a headcanon: Selina Kyle is a natural redhead. When she makes particularly ill-advised decisions, Bruce (or one of the other Batfam) make Ginger Cat braincell jokes. Damian: "Father? Where is Selina?" Bruce: "She tried to rob Maroni's vault with no prep. I'm going to get her." D: "Ah. I see someone else was holding the Brain Cell today." B: "Damian." D: "Sorry, Father." Two minutes before: Oracle: "B, this is Oracle. Chatter says Maroni caught someone trying to break into the vault. Sounds like Catwoman." B: "Dammit, someone else must have had the brain cell."

I mean, for me, my Catwoman's hair will always be either dark brown-to-black , though I do have a soft spot for Blonde Catwoman (Michelle Pfeiffer and Batman: TAS catwoman).

Like--

She's literally so unserious.

She is doing this because she needs enrichment!!

If you go back to the original Bob Kane commentary on the development of Catwoman, it's very standard-fare 1940's misogyny (It's like straight up "She's a cat because cats and women are duplicitous and I don't trust them and I have no female friends!") It's kind of nice that as the character has developed over the years, that she's not only gotten a lot more sympathy, but her character's gotten more humor as well.

No one:

Selina Kyle: