#AND I love coming up with shipnames and general shipname history it's interesting to me

[crossover-enthusiast]

I'M LOSING MY SHIT

Okay so I was going down pinterest/twitter art rabbit holes, as you do, and I came across this account that mostly drew Skid and Pump! And this made me happy!!

BUT

B U T

As I was scrolling further through the account I saw this and I

THIS IS THE GUY!!!! THIS IS THE ONE THAT NAMED SKID X PUMP FIRESKULLS!!!

I NEVER THOUGHT I'D KNOW THE SOURCE BUT IT'S HERE!!!!! IT'S HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hws-lceland]

Who do you ship Denmark with?

A. A lot. But here's some I really like !

DenNor: :] I know it is predictable or whatever but their relationship is so special to me and is a big comfort ship and has been for so long I was talking about this on discord last night but the way Denmark loves Norway is just so sweet and genuine and it makes me so happy. And makes me want to cry. I also really like their history I think it makes it a very interesting pairing, though I am not the best when it comes to talking about historical stuff so I will leave that for now. I don't think it's a perfect relationship I think they have had their ups and downs but it works out.

I also think their dynamic is so funny is litterally this post

NedDen/DenNed !! : They're like college frat bros who are in love they're besties 4 life . I have a hard time explaining this in a way that I am satisfied with but they have a very very close friendship that is very intimate and romance/relationship wise their relationship is both. Very intimate but also very casual. Ned is generally the first guy Den goes to when he needs to talk to someone, especially during times where he might not be on the best terms with Sweden or the other Nordics. They get wasted and high together and bond over bike rides and having dumb stupid hair

Gutters is what initially got me shipping them and that definitely definitely influenced how I see their relationship.

Also I think it's funny their shipname is a palindrome

And those are like. My big two. Those are canon to me.

DenSu: I really love densu but my brain is too scrambled to be able to write a lot about it right now. I like the rivalry. I also like when they are just two old gay guys sharing a cigarette watching the sunset. Idk I want to talk more. About it because I DO have thoughts but I can't think my thoughts . Right now. But this one is also canon. to me also . Probably Top 3 Denmark ships .( I will have to come back to talk about this one another time.)

DenPru: Sorry to my one mutual who hates this ship (lighthearted) I just think they're fun. I don't have a whole lot of serious thoughts on it but I like that they're like Alfred's weirdo uncles. They're sad pathetic drinking buddies together.

DenEst: I have nothing to contribute to this one but man. I read someone in discord talking about their history together and I was hooked. It's very interesting!

DenIta: I thought about this one one time while I was high and I was like. Oh man I'm so smart. And then it just kind of stuck. Definitely a crack ship but one I have fun with.

It's basically like that one meme "This is Denmark. Denmark loves his personal space. This is Veneziano, he also loves Denmarks personal space."

And I am done typing now

[ntshastark]

just me talking about marvel’s ‘Top 10 Couples’ video bc i started doing it in my head so why not write it down

1. reedsue

it’s not even that their relationship per se is so iconic but they’re literally marvel’s First Couple so like. obviously they had to be in the first place. i was actually kinda ????? that #2 hadn’t been #1 but when i saw who was it i was like. ok. fair.

2. petermj

now i’d say that is marvel’s most iconic couple. tbh, imo they’re only less iconic than clois when it comes to superhero couples

3. lukejess

usually Iconic Superhero Couples™ have decades of history between them but like. what’s so iconic about lukejess is exactly that they managed to become iconic without that. they’re so recent and their story is so fucking different from other iconic couples, i mean, they had a daughter on the way before even becoming serious (which is not that unusual irl but on superhero comics?? yeah). so yeah, they definitely deserve to be on this list... but. i wouldn’t have put them that high, exactly bc they don’t have as much time of history and i think the netflix show was the first time their relationship appeared in a medium besides comics.

4. billyteddy

ok i get that they are marvel’s most popular lgbt couple currently and i love that they’re on the list but if they were going for a token non-m/f couple i can’t help but think northstar and his husband kyle deserved the place more since they had comics’ first gay wedding. or maybe mystique and irene, who have a lot more history

5. buckynat

another case, like lukejess, of a couple that deserved to be on this list for becoming so iconic so fast. a fan-favorite from fanboys to fangirls, legends only

6. kitty/piotr (...does this even have a shipname)

literally WHAT THE FUCK is this doing on this list????? i don’t even know anyone who likes it omg ROGUE AND GAMBIT DESERVED TO BE HERE SO MUCH MORE???????

7. scottjean

they should’ve been in 3rd tbh like???? how are they this low???? they’re by far x-men’s most iconic couple and definitely up there with reedsue and petermj when it comes to marvel as a whole like???? HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY BEHIND FUCKING KITTY AND COLOSSUS????????????????

8. t’challaororo

the only reason i forgive them being this low is bc they lasted very little, which is why marvel should BRING THEM BACK. like, they could easily make it to top 5 with more time together which is definitely not happening with marvel permanently throwing a fit over not having the x-men’s movie rights lmao

9. mattelektra

i’m biased bc i’ve always heard about daredevil and elektra bc my mom (and, consequently, my brother) loves the daredevil movie, but if they were popular enough for the movie(s) to even be made i’ll say it’s fair for them to be on the list (also i love them so double yes)

10. stevesharon

listen i absolutely love stevesharon (more in the movies than in the comics bc the only thing with them that i’ve read so far is cw), but they’re definitely not a major Iconic Superhero Couple™. when it comes to captain america? definitely. steve’s most iconic/important relationship by very far. but marvel in general? there are a lot more iconic couples. even just in the avengers. visionwanda, hankjan, brucebetty, thorsif... but ngl i loved that marvel put them on the list lol, i hope this means they’re making an effort on this pairing to make them earn this place (and hopefully a higher one too)

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if i were to re-make this list (and i’m technically still a comics newbie, i started reading 2 years ago and haven’t read much yet, so) it would look something like this (keeping in mind that i’m not going by my favorite couples but by the ones i think are more iconic):

reedsue

petermj

scottjean (instead of #7)

visionwanda (instead of #10′s stevesharon)

roguegambit (instead of #6′s kitty/colossus)

t’challaororo (instead of #8)

lukejess (instead of #3)

mattelektra (instead of #9)

northkyle (instead of #4′s billyteddy)

buckynat (instead of #5)

i wasn’t sure about 4/5 but i put visionwanda before roguegambit bc i had heard of them even without them being in other mediums, while roguegambit were on the x-men cartoons i was obsessed with. also not sure about 8-10 but eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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i’ve seen people complaining that marvel didn’t include more non-white/white non-m/f pairings but like. that’s not the problem. the problem is that marvel doesn’t have enough non-white/white non-m/f pairings that are popular/big/iconic enough to deserve being on this list

when i was looking to see if kyle and northstar really were superhero comics’ first gay wedding i found this:

“Marvel reportedly had a "No Gays in the Marvel Universe" policy during Jim Shooter's 1980s tenure, and Marvel's policy from the 1990s had stated that all series emphasizing solo gay characters must carry an "Adults Only" label, in response to conservative protests. [...] As of 2006, these policies are no longer enforced and LGBT characters appear regularly in Marvel comics. Although same-sex couples are depicted occasionally kissing, intimate or sexual scenes have not been shown, even in Marvel's "Adult only" imprint.”

on wikipedia: [link]

and when you look at dc like... so many of their most popular characters are queer. including really old ones... and i’m holding myself to not start talking about how dc is writing so much good stuff and selling a lot better than marvel who is still insisting on those stupid events to pander to fanboys and they don’t even have the guts to put deadpool in a explicit relationship with a dude or nb person and almost all of their popular queer characters are from teen teams like young avengers and runaways who aren’t even that big and the biggest (and only probably) “this rly old character is actually queer” they’ve pulled is fucking iceman while dc is out there making catwoman and wonder woman bisexual

like, you make fucking m*ximoffcest canon in ult*mates but iron man has to be a cis girl to kiss captain america, you get spider-woman randomly (and unnecessarily) pregnant but caroljess is a punchline, you make alternative universe wolverine in love with hercules but god forbid the real wolverine ever be anything less than 110% straight, you make tony stark have a multiple-gender orgy when he’s evil and then never confirm his interest in people who aren’t women, you make a genderfluid bisexual loki say asgardians don’t have the same concept of gender and sexuality as humans but don’t ever act on it besides one or two specific characters

idk, whatever, how did i even get to this point, i was talking about a fucking list

fuck marvel