#AGAIN I AM NOT HATING ON YALL'S OPINIONS/BELIEFS THEY JUST CONFUSE MEEEEEE

[jiminy-crickets]

OKAY BEFORE I DO ANYTHING, this is not me hating because i love all of my beloved mutuals, this is me sharing my perspective and my opinion and my CONFUSION. okay, now PLEASE REMEMBER THAT I AM NEW(ish, been almost a year) to hockey fandom, i have NEVER been an active twitter user (signed up shorty after musk made you need an account to view tweets, and I am a youtube drama) AND i have been an RPFer for the majority of my life. I am 22 I started watching dan and phil shortly before my 11th birthday and dove head first into the shipping culture of the 2013-2014 phandom. AND ALSO REMEMBER.... that dan and phil are FREAKS who openly engage with shipping content of them, make jokes about it so on and so forth. AND ALSO, that when i started using tumblr at like 12 everyone and their fucking dog had tumblr, dan and phil, tyler oakley, markiplier, taylor swift, troye sivan, john green, lorde, zoella, grace helbig, thomas sanders. EVERYONE HAD TUMBLR, and a lot of famous people still do (publicly and private)... what i am getting at is that to my eyes there is no "fandom space" that is free from celebrities. maybe MAYBE you could make that case for ao3 because to my knowledge there is only one content creator/celebrity on ao3 and he's a piece of shit and we hate him now (wilbur soot, he used ao3 to dump an unused stream outline for the dsmp) I also don't use tiktok. The only social media I use daily is tumblr, reddit, instgram, I open threads once evry few days to see what bookstagram drama is happening and see book recomendations, and I also am trying to use bluesky but... i'm not sure how much i like it, and there isn't that many people on there who i find interesting enoygh to follow. so, the only social media i like USE USE is Tumblr, reddit and instgaram.

okay did you real all of that? if not DO THAT FIRST.

Okay now... I don't really give a shit if people openly RPF ship on twitter, because imho it's the people in question not to go finding it. I DO give a shit if they tag the person, tag that persons family, friends, coworkers, media personnel etc. And because of what I just said about how I don't think there are any true "celebrity free" social media platforms... I don't really understand what makes shipping on twitter so egregiously worse than shipping on tumblr?

I do know the vague abstracts of the booktoc/ smuttok/ sportsromancetok, THING that happened back in 2023 with my only knowledge on the matter being THIS video from swell entertainment that came out august 3rd 2023, I watched it probably the day it dropped or the day after (I love swell, amanda makes amazing videos go watch her she's awesome) and haven't seen since and to my best recollection the issue wasn't shipping it was the harassment of Alex's wife, making and tagging them in increasingly sexual fancams and edits, and the kraken socials team playing into and feeding the flames. And because of that, I don't think its really a good comparison.

okay SO to recap i think there is no true 'fandom' space on the modern internet, i think that shipping on twitter (and in extension anywhere else) isn't really a problem so long as you don't tag people involved or in the greater sphere. AND It confuses me when y'all do think it's bad. like, I'm not hating I am confused. And I don't think that the Wennberg booktok thing is a good analogue to just shipping on twitter.

anyways, again I am not hating, this is clearly just me having a very different fandom background (youtubers, mcyt, bandom) from yall, and thus having a different perspective. (like I haven't done a poll but to my eye yallses most recent last fandoms were all media, not like humans...) feel free to give you perspectives, fill me in on shit that i don't know from being new etc etc.

anyways, I gotta go wash the dishes. then later i get to juggle watching the charge AND the sens AND the sharks and my poor little brain is so small. so i'm gonna get so confused.

EDIT: i just realized that i didn't mention it, i fucking hate gossip mongers, i hate gossip blogs, gossip twitter accouts, i would kill deuxmoi on sight and gaylors make me want to rip my hair out. people who tinhat get on my nerves, and i think anyone who doesn't make it clear that they're doing speculation, or chatting fiction, or who passes around gossip (or makes it up) is a no lifer waste of space.