#(( the way lucifer just went IN on adam and would have definitely blasted him to smithereens if it wasn't for charlie.

[gctchell]

This just gained more weight to it too, didn't it?

"You come at me, and my DAUGHTER, don't forget: You're in MY HOUSE, bitch!"

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[ilikelookingatthings]

hazbin hotel adam lilith eve lucifer theory and the exorcists

it might juts be me...but does anyone else think that maybe the excorisms were a plan to YES stop the over population of hell which could threaten heaven(which seems right up heavens alley if the FLOOD reaction where they tried to restart humanity because there was too much sin is to be believed)....but ALSO..maybe its a way to scare hell into trying to find alternatives to stop it? such at trying to work on themselves and seek redemption?

I'm just saying when the humans adam and eve got tricked and ate the apple/fruit of knowledge they got punished by being kicked out of their home adn had to live life...go through hardship and then when they died they got judged whether you got to heaven or hell. We don't know what happened with Eve but Adam aparently worked off his sin and made it into heaven right after the hardship and not knowing if that would be the case....

What if the plan of excorcisizing sinners was also to give them a permanent threat they couldn't come back from which gave MORE meaning to their choices and a solid outside threat just like how outside the garden, hardship and death were waiting for eve and adam?

thus resulting in Charlie/someone coming up with the idea that the people in hell shouldn't just give up and keep trying to redeem themselves which wouldn't have happened if hell didn't have the over population problem and the threat of extermination hovering over their backs.

being only able to see the worst in humanity was lucifer's punishment...but I'm also curious if maybe lilith might have a plan...like we know deal for allowing the eterminations was also that no one would attach the hellborn citizens which of course would keep charlie safe.

Also...while Adam is definitely horrible NOW....anyone else kind of wonder if maybe Adam was TRYING to fall at this point? if maybe he got twisted by being stuck with all the people making a big deal abot him up in heaven a.k.a. the decedents who use the story and will often twist it to suit their needs....I can't help but find it a little suspicious...especially when adam attach charlie despite that being a hard rule for the exorcists to not attack hellborn people....

like sir petious redeemed himself due to the blast of fighting adam right? putting himself at risk and sacrificing himself for his friends without hesitation while believing it was a real complete no respawning death at the time.

and adam revealed the exorcist aspect infront of heaven despite sera saying it was supposed to be kept secert which will have heaven be judged and scrutinized by itself as well because clearly there is a issue because other heaven people HAVE fallen.

and just saying....Adam was apparently the one who brought up the idea...which could be just cuz he was bored and it was a growing issue and much like lucifer he saw there was shame in them and that there was a mercy in ending their endless suffering....

but....considering adam was the first human to enter heaven it seems...but abel isn't there despite being the first one murdered...and it doesn't seem like adam's wife eve is up there....

what if Adam concocted a plan to get worse and worse as time went on with the plan to fall or get killed by going down to hell so he could look for eve or abel? since heaven is always watching...actually making a concrete plan would be a bit difficult when everyone in heaven you can't justify hurting...but it can be easier if you tap into bitterness or negativity toward hell as a outlit but making it about 'fun' something more lighthearted could get past the angel's wrath meter or something.

just seems suspicious that lilith and adam were in cohoots and somehow Sir Pentious was redeemed you know?

also another theory....considering Adam was actually offered the fruit first and refused and they went through eve with the idea to also get to adam...what if lilith and lucifer wanted BOTH Eve and Adam with them?

and while Adam and Lilith are equals with strong personalities it makes sense they would clash so I don't think Adam was being inherently sexists in the begining....but I do wonder if eve being made from his rib...if maybe lilith and lucifer wanted to shift the power imbalance since she wasn't made from the same stuff lilith was by giving her knowledge...but it was actually her punishment after to follow Adam's lead more and Adam was punished for not stopping it...showing the issues of one being more sub-servant to the other which did seem to help problems spread in the rest of humanity from this unequal dynamic even if compartmentalizing what you do well can help people survive together...which Eve and Adam had to so after being kicked out of Eden....

What if Adam maybe respawns to hell to deal with a secondary route of redemption to learn issues with how he's been handling his feelings since his death.

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also just throwing this out there...but most of the sexist stuff didn't get invented til WAY later. Adam and Eve had to survive of the outside as the first family so while Adam definitly seems sexist now....

anyone else feel like Adam almost says all that without REALLY understanding what it means...like he knows it upsets people and gets a reaction...but he gives off the energy of both a kid not quite knowing what he is saying but going all in...and a old man using new slang terms from the hip kiddos...and it would kindof interesting if Adam DID come back if he was actually admitted or pointed out alot of the modern lady stuff vs guy stuff is kindof arbitrary and not invented back in his day because both him and Eve had to cook and work together. like the pink being girls with blue being guys thing that keeps switching in the centuries even though its just a color and has different means that people project on to it.

like Adam clearly is into modern sexism to some degree now which definitely needs to be adressed...but there is also wiggleroom cuz what if he's just being a dick on purpose and knows it'll get under the skin...like someone reaching for the lowest hanging fruit to get the reaction they want no matter what it is...and dude screams over compensating to hide hurt and fears where he will lie to himself and others til he believes it. putting on a 'mask' if you will.

just kind of want to see the sexist asshole rip someone else apart for being sexist logically using things from his own life to back it up.