#'rhaenys is hillary'

[la-pheacienne]

"One of the things that gave me the most respect for Hillary Clinton was in the aftermath of [the 2016 election], how she navigated her role/non-role and brilliantly maintained her dignity, self-respect and leadership. That felt like territory that Rhaenys was treading".

@alethiaii i'm suing you for therapy expenses

[tweedfrog]

Kicking an even bigger hornets nest than i did with that Viserys post but I think the reason I'm not as angry as other people seem to be with HOTDs adaptational choices and can kind of just enjoy the show (although i have my criticisms) is that after reading and rereading the books i think the adaptation is magnifying underlying weaknesses already present in GRRMs writing.

Like "oh why does the show make Criston Cole half dornish and then cast him as an angry incel conservative". bro. The books have the Arianne Martell nipple chapter. The book with the quote "mens lives have meaning not their deaths" killed off the second most important woman in the country 15 years ago and 80 characters have reflected on how annoying and sickly she was but it was kinda sad that she died I guess. We get like 4 sentences where we find out her brothers cared about her and she laughed at a fart joke.

In all fairness to the HOTD writers room they are nawt adapting flawless source material.

[muadweeb]

so the smallfolk she crushed are libyans in this case????

[mejcinta]

Watch as those obnoxious writers turn hotd season 3 into US Election commentary (instead of focusing on grrm's story), leaving global audiences scratching their heads.

[disinherited-dornishman]

This bullshit has been sitting in my chest since season 2 ended, so...

...can someone please, please, please explain to me why Aegon uses a real life islamophobic slur - "Goatfuckers" - famously used by US occupiers in the Middle-East against its muslim and brown population? In what fucking world does this shit make sense or is in any way okay?

THE EXPOSURE OF WESTEROS TO ESSOS IS DOMINATED BY THE CULTURAL AND COMMERCIAL IMPORTS FROM THE FREE CITIES, EACH ONE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE ADVANCED THAN WESTEROS. WHY WOULD HE EVER FUCKING ASSOCIATE THE ESSOSI WITH GOATS TO BE USING A FAMOUSLY ANTI-MUSLIM SLUR AGAINST THEM???

I'll fucking tell you why, and it's not because they're trying to make Aegon out to be an even bigger piece of shit after that hamfisted, biased fucking addition of making him a rapist. Oh no, this show doesn't get to use that cop-out. It doesn't think it's an islamophobic slur, that's the truth of this shit. The sad truth, with how normalized islamophobia has become in the west. As far as most fans and the writers themselves are concerned, he used an anti-goatherder slur (and the fact that the pluralistic people he used it against are largely brown is a coincidence, I'm sure).

I'd be surprised if they even knew the existence of Qohor or it's state religion (the Black Goat), but even if they did (be for fucking real, please) it's literally the easternmost Free City with arguably the least influence/exposure possible in Westeros.

You may ask: how do I know it's islamophobia? Why, what else could it be, dear reader, when we have esteemed writers such as Sara "we based Girlboss Rhaenys on girlboss (read: war-criminal who should be shot) Hillary Clinton" Hess on the team?

The fact is, the white-as-rice valeman are infinitely more likelier to be called goatfuckers than any brown people Westeros at large are exposed to on the regular, but the writers's own racist asses don't know that, despite having the braincells to make an actually fitting insult in season 1 by Daemon regarding his own wife from the Vale, but this would be the smallest inconsistency between the season these "professional" writers are guilty of.

I consider the worst part of all this shit to be that the fandom at large barely registers this issue, not even the show's critics it seems, relative to its other flaws. The last time I saw mention of this was at the end of season 2, and just silence after.

But really, should it be a surprise, after how disgustingly lauded Gwayne's classist and racist behavior against Criston Cole was, arguably the principal brown character in the show, and how he became an unapologetically instant fav of Team Black for it?

[tessarionbestgirl]

Tb is so angry at TG actors saying none of Aegon and Rhaenyra deserve the throne, and are angry at Ryan as well sayın the whole point is to show monarchy sucks.

They really don't get that Rhaenyra committed treason and have been showed to be a weak leader. Aegon is stupid but the show doesn't fall behind in showing Rhaenyra isn't smart at all and her council is falling apart because she show not have authority.

Also sayın that considering how bad the young actors for TB have been to promote their team and Eva comparing Rhaenys to Hillary Clinton and even her horrendous comparation in S1 over Rheanys' choice to the war in Ukraine is hilarious.

[gojuo]

They don't call rhaenyra maegor with teats but only rhaenyra the cruel. Yet they had no qualms of using the anti arab slur.

I fucking hate tv shows who pretend to be progressive coz they portray misogyny as the worst thing but whitewash racism.

well to be fair rhaenyra only got the moniker maegor with teats after she took king's landing. she lined the red keep with severed heads daily and that soured the smallfolk's opinion of her which led to them calling her that. but you're right, the white feminist messaging in this show is very matter of fact. sara hess wrote the goatfucker line and she's also publicly endorsed hillary clinton, comparing rhaenys the terrorist to her as praise + her general treatment and viewpoint of criston cole, a brown man. so yeah that lady's opinion (subconscious or not) of middle easterners is quite evident.

[horizon-verizon]

ANON WAS RIGHT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSZRVr7WIAA4ecR?format=jpg&name=small

THIS is the feminist writing of the Dance of the Dragons that both Ryan and Sara promised by changing events in the source material... what happened to “in this world of men, we women must band together”, Jeyne’s male relatives trying to usurp her ??

Possibly cutting out Sabitha Frey and Alysanne Blackwood... Downplaying Rhaena and Baela... comparing Rhaenys to Hillary Clinton... I know what Ryan and Sara truly are.

This anon responds to this post/anon.

IT's annoying as fuck. I'm thinking of getting cannabis high for these episodes, maybe it can help w/epi 3.

It's been a pattern of them having characters angry or hold show!Rhaenyra responsible for shit she has either very little or no connection to. I rather hate the male gazey punching bag of it all.

[daenystheedreamer]

I'm sorry to say but Cersei isn't the Hillary of ASOIAF....Rhaenyra is. Her fans are Hillaryhive coded

daemyra is kind of billary.. but thank you sara hess for the rhaenys is hillary quote it ruined my life. also cersei 100% is a) being wife of politician because thats the way you got into politics back then (medieval era/70s) and then pretending this is a feminist act b) hating your cheating husband but staying with him for optics c) killing children. cersei IS hillary be for real. peak 2016 hillary would have fully exploded bernie sanders if she could

[faiakishi]

If Harris wins we should Rhaenys Targaryen Hillary Clinton and start referring to her as 'the President Who Never Was'.

[la-pheacienne]

No but you don't get it. Show!Rhaenys, who is exclusively characterized as anti war/peacemaker/conciliator, is being paralleled to fucking HILLARY CLINTON. Just, wow. I genuinely don't have words.

[apricotatsea]

Got my friend to start watching hotd and he called rhaenys "Hillary coded" lmao

[horizon-verizon]

Sara Hess being a neoliberal is the LEAST surprising thing to ever happen. I know I had reasons to hate Rhaenys.

Seriously though, I want to vomit, of all the women to channel, they picked Hillary Clinton ??? And not any of the competent and effective female rulers documented in history ?

But unlike Rhaenys, Clinton is a huge fan of massacring people though, doesn’t track. But both have unfaithful husbands who have sex with underage girls, I can see why they would choose her as an inspiration.

And we know that Sara Hess is a rape apologist, I’m sure she doesn’t believe the women who accused Bill Clinton of rape and sexual abuse. Why did Hillary stay married to a serial adulterer (who use women as disposable Kleenex) and serial rapist and pedophile, if she such a women right activist, can one of her cultists who love to blame women for the actions of men explain that one.

I mean...that Rhaenys is above killing many people and goes out of her way to try to not do that is severely undermined by her coming through the floor in her Dragonpit escape back in s1 e9.

To be Watsonian, other than that, Rhaenys never actually speaks about or seems to concern herself with making sure a woman gets some form of autonomy or political authority. She's mostly been sometimes wanting to assure that her side of the family stays relatively safe and reserving power for them (which a war b/t other family members would put at risk & destabilize, obviously)...not actually avoiding violence for the sake of the "realm". Would be somewhat fine to witness, but it's passed off as "wisdom" and compassion when it's anything but, while also causing a lot of cognitive dissonance in viewers AND this "wisdom" of "guiding" men of "violent masculine nature" doesn't serve to really grant woman as much agency or political authority as Condal or Hess believe.

It still validates male violence by making it seem inevitable AND centers men as the active political leaders and movers while demonizing women who make decisions for their selves and discourage inquiry over whether or not that itself actually brings about terrible destruction to people...or just provide a means to possibly start a change in the system. Or you know, avoid patriarchal violence and have defenses against it in general.

You are still, as a woman, subject to the caprices of men, the winds of male violence bc it keeps you immobile against such things. It's simply why I just can never like Rhaenyra and how I despise this narrative that she's somehow "better" than Catelyn regarding the responses to bastard kids of their unfaithful husbands (that Ned wasn't actually is irrelevant, he made Cat believe so and she did to her dying day).

[signum-ignis]

All the emojis. ALL OF THEM.

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