#'love forswore me in my mother's womb'
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(*wobbly tearstained voice* this is father & son richard plantagenet in henry vi part 3 1983 dir jane howell btw. which is. extremely good)
#HIM. DAD!!!?!?! YOU SEE#I thought the ian holm (1965) version of richard and york's relationship was devastating. I had no idea what was coming for me#henry vi part 3#shakespeare#richard iii#he just folds into the hug so completely and without trepidation even when he thinks he's being reprimanded. is the thing#'love forswore me in my mother's womb'#WHAT WAS YOUR DAD THEN RICHARD??? CHOPPED LIVER???????#*on my knees on the bare earth rending my garments and clawing at my bloodied face*#your brothers kind of suck I will grant you but they frankly seem to love you just as much or more than they love each other lol#I'm fine. the self-fulfilling prophecy and utter desolate isolation of abject self-loathing just got in my eyes again#I suppose a lifetime of your mum going 'shame of my womb' would do that to a motherfucker but STILL#honestly nothing beats moving through henry vi parts 2 and 3 before hitting richard iii. especially in this version#when you see the desperation verging on mania of york deciding to claim the throne reflected in his son later and it's like. ah. oh.#'not like the dam or the sire' are u sure about that margaret lmao#even the way richard will eventually do his asides are direct mirrors to how his father does it in this version#the matching limp after york gets wounded by clifford. the way they clearly share a sense of humour. *sounds of agony*#never have I witnessed a york I actually rooted for so deeply as bernard hill's even WITH that worrying intensity tho#among other high points of this version: a neverending cavalcade of some of the best noses you'll ever see in your life#also an unusual but SO fucking good take on richard. laurence olivier's version is certifiably Iconic of course (for better or worse)#but he is also like. transparently a disney villain haha I believe I coined the term 'murderscamp' to describe him#lots of fun to watch but it makes everyone else look like such absolute dumbasses for not seeing him for what he is#and lots of performances to my mind go way too far into the creep factor way too quickly#with ron cook's softspoken more believeably vulnerable richard from the outset it's easier to see how he flies under the radar#he's short and slight his voice doesn't rise that much even when he's in a rage and he's the softest with their father#you see how edward and george could still categorize him as their baby brother and not take him seriously -- not realize that some things#have uh. Shifted!! under the surface! over the years! in ways they probably should have been paying attention to!#to them he's still the kid warwick carried off stage on his shoulders.#frighteningly capable in battle but still more to be protected than protected from. until... god. augh. ow.
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Why, love forswore me in my mother's womb: And, for I should not deal in her soft laws, She did corrupt frail nature with some bribe, To shrink mine arm up like a wither'd shrub; To make an envious mountain on my back, Where sits deformity to mock my body; To shape my legs of an unequal size; To disproportion me in every part, Like to a chaos, or an unlick'd bear-whelp That carries no impression like the dam. And am I then a man to be beloved?
Henry VI, part 3. Act 3, Scene 2.
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Richard III Gifs?
Hello everyone,
I’ve been looking for gifs of Richard towards the end of the second half of the Hollow Crown (Henry VI, part 3). I was wondering if anyone has a gif of the lines:
O miserable thought! and more unlikely Than to accomplish twenty golden crowns! Why, love forswore me in my mother's womb: And, for I should not deal in her soft laws, She did corrupt frail nature with some bribe, To shrink mine arm up like a wither'd shrub; To make an envious mountain on my back, Where sits deformity to mock my body; To shape my legs of an unequal size; To disproportion me in every part, Like to a chaos, or an unlick'd bear-whelp That carries no impression like the dam. And am I then a man to be beloved? O monstrous fault, to harbour such a thought!
The way BC slams those words, the expression on his face is amazing. Especially those lines that I’ve highlighted. His ability to go 0 to 60 tho....damn dude.
It would be AWESOME and I thank you kindly!
@elennemigo maaaaaybe? :D
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I've been utterly lost in the Richard III sauce the last week or so, and just... this scene at the beginning of the play:
RICHARD
Fairer than tongue can name thee, let me have Some patient leisure to excuse myself.
LADY ANNE
Fouler than heart can think thee, thou canst make No excuse current, but to hang thyself.
RICHARD
By such despair, I should accuse myself.
LADY ANNE
And, by despairing, shouldst thou stand excused; For doing worthy vengeance on thyself, Which didst unworthy slaughter upon others.
And then Richard at the end of the play:
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I shall despair. There is no creature loves me; And if I die, no soul shall pity me: Nay, wherefore should they, since that I myself Find in myself no pity to myself?
*elmo surrounded in flames gif* WILLIAM!!! BILL!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD
the way 'despair' winds through this entire play, actually... not to put too fine a point on it but holy fuck
#he knew what he was about that good ol' shakespeare huh#shakespeare#richard iii#because the thing is I think richard has *already* despaired by the time the play starts and this is just one long violent finish to it#not to go all psychoanalysis on you here but I think he's acting out of having despaired entirely of ever having love or human connection#'love forswore me in my mother's womb'#and the only thing that has ever granted him recognition (even from mama york in a roundabout way) or a feeling of control is violence#having gone through the other history plays before getting to r3 is such a fucking ride fdsfsaj like ah okay yeah I see why he's like this#he's awful but it's not that hard to see how he got there lol#'For thou hast made the happy earth thy hell#bad luck with the getting killed off girl but I hope she got popcorn and a good seat in the afterlife to watch this mess go down haha#hey motherfucker what's it like to be in a hell of your own making#I don't know about worthy but he's certainly doing vengeance on himself#also almost all actors I've heard so far put the stress on 'despair' -- as in 'I shall *despair*'#but I always thougth it makes much more sense if he says 'I *shall* despair' since he's sort of responding to all the voices#that have been telling him 'despair and die' (whether he's responding to ghosts or his own conscience still an open question lol)#and it also makes it feel like that's what he's been doing this whole play; putting off the moment when he has to admit to the despair#also 'despair and die' could be a nice counterpoint to 'live long and prosper' hahaha it's the vulcan statement of war
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