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musical-chick-13 · 10 months ago
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Again, always very confusing to me when people suffering from The Obsessive Compulsives are Antis™, like these people will not protect you. They believe thought crimes are real. They inherently hate you and WILL throw you to the wolves if they ever come to know about anything related to your intrusive thoughts or the """""weird""""" things they ask you to do in therapy to manage/cope with them.
#you know how in erp a big part of it is writing down/thinking about the actual worst case scenario? you know the scenario that#often leads to people being harmed in a permanent way? you know creating a fictional scenario where bad things happen to good#people and you are the cause of them? THE VERY KIND OF FICTION THESE PEOPLE ARE AGAINST EXISTING IN ANY FORM BECAUSE IT#'NORMALIZES' WHATEVER TF THEY'RE ON A CRUSADE ABOUT ON ANY GIVEN DAY#THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. THIS WAY OF THINKING IS /ACTIVELY ANTITHETICAL/ TO RECOVERY FROM THIS DISORDER#this is related to the 'does anyone else get Themes™ about writing' question I posed a while back and some of these people..........#if you knew the specifics of what I was writing about you would COMMIT ARSON#IT'S NOT REAL! NONE OF THIS IS REAL!! YOU ARE ONLY GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE FOR YOURSELF BY MORALIZING FICTION IN THIS WAY#I USED TO HAVE CRISES OVER SYMPATHIZING WITH AND ENJOYING VARIOUS HORRIBLE FICTIONAL WOMEN TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO KNOWS DIRECTLY!!!!!!!#and ngl a lot of these arguments about why xyz is Irredeemable™ sound a LOT like my disorder.#(especially in the way they try to like...twist things into fitting into a definition of [insert type of problematic dynamic here] a la#'character raising their voice at someone one time during a high-stakes situation is abuse' or 'people who were friends as children#are Related Actually')#like. you get why. you get why this VERY disorder would think in similar ways to that right. because it tries to convince you that#everything you do is violating various human rights correct? you get why this would be unhelpful right?#IF YOU SOUND LIKE MY FUCKING DISORDER!!! YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!#In the Vents#okay I'm done. this just. It BUGS me.
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valley0fstorms · 4 years ago
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Vil and his actions
So, Vil has done many things over the course of Twisted Wonderland, and of these things he has, undoubtedly, done things that can be considered bad. I have covered some of these things in other writings of mine, namely him and Epel, but let us look at a broader list, mainly stemming from common misunderstandings to him, his character, and actions. Some of these “bad things” Vil has done may be a stretch, and honestly speaking, that’s the point 
Now first off, people may see Vil as violent towards his peers, specifically Epel, yes, but also towards others, like Leona, Kalim, and Jamil during the Fairy Gala event. Now, on the topic of Fairy Gala, there is a lot of context needed. The situation, why they were putting on a fashion show, all of it is necessary in talking about Vil’s approach and methods. 
The Fairy Gala happened because of dangerous circumstances. Their dorm was at stake, their reputations were at stake, hell the whole school was at stake. They would have to repeat the year if they didn’t do anything about it, and it was very much time limited. Vil had to train Kalim, Jamil, and Leona, all 3 inexperienced in this line of work, as fast as he could and make sure they were perfect before the Fairy Gala. Vil is strict, be it from how he was trained or its just natural for him, and he was also under the pressure of having to basically save one of the school’s most important objects by training inexperienced models in a short period of time. If he were to go to, say, Russian ballet teacher levels of disciplinary action and training, then yes I’d say his actions are somewhat problematic in this situation, but the thing is, he wasn’t being like that. The punishments he put in place ultimately were to actually help them, if you really look at the whole picture.
Also, the status of Kalim and Leona in their own countries is irrelevant, they’re at NRC as students, their outside positions of power have little meaning. Yes Kalim may be rich, but Vil is still an upperclassman to him, and Leona may be 20 years old and royalty, but he is still a 3rd year like Vil. Plus, the three are all dorm leaders, they hold basically the same amount of power authority wise.
Now, moving on from the Fairy Gala to Epel. 
Vil’s treatment of Epel in the SR story was uncalled for, I’ll give you that, but after that… no. If an ear pinch is abusive, I can only wonder what else is. Anyways, Vil’s treatment of Epel in VDC training is honestly… kinda normal in dance training, take it from someone who has experience in that field. Yes, singling out is embarrassing for the target, but it does highlight the mistakes both for the target and the other people around to know not to make that mistake. And the promise Vil and Epel made? We don’t even know what it is yet, and whenever it has been mentioned it’s been kinda cryptic about it. We can’t talk about that specifically. But what we can talk about is how Epel has known about the VDC for a while, and it can be presumed that the promise had something to do with it, and that since Epel agreed to this promise, Vil expects him to stand by it, which is usually common courtesy, so it would make sense that Vil is mad that Epel doesn’t meet up to it
Also, with the topic of Epel’s reluctance to dance and be involved with Vil’s own rivalries, claiming Epel doesn’t want to do it because he came to NRC to learn magic is kinda… a weak argument? Everyone came to NRC to learn magic, even Vil. They have no choice in what dorm they get sorted into usually, and Epel was put into Pomefiore for a reason. Vil’s leadership of Pomefiore is strict, maybe not to chapter 1 Riddle levels, but strict nonetheless, and as such Epel is subject to this as much as every other student, though to a higher degree because Vil has high expectations for Epel. 
Now, the conversation Vil had with Deuce after Epel ran off from training. Vil was stressed and emotional from having to deal with Epel, this is evident in how he Raised His Voice, which only happens when he feels like he’s at the end of his line. He was rude, yes, but he was correct in what he was saying. Vil never sugarcoats anything, he’s blunt. Vil is supposed to be their teacher, teachers tell you when you are doing something wrong, which is what Vil was doing, albeit in not that good a way. In short, Vil was stressed and emotional. He is an 18 year old, a teenager, just like Epel is also a teenager. Why is Epel allowed to get emotional and have an outburst but not Vil?
Now, moving on from Epel, lets look at some more things, specifically relating to his bluntness and forces out of his control. Let’s briefly speak about his unique magic, which gives him ability to place a curse on just about anything with the repercussion of he cannot reverse it once he has placed it. Now, if you remember in chapter 5 we saw this in action. Grim, Ace, and Deuce were eating sweets that Vil had confiscated, not knowing they were cursed. Vil had no intention of forcing MC and Grim to eat like the ones actually training for the VDC, but due to the curse being placed already, he was unable to do anything about it and had only the choice of leaving Grim there even though he was technically allowed to eat it. That outcome was out of his control, he might have expected Adeuce to sneak out to get snacks, but not MC or Grim, and if he did, he just accepted that there was nothing that could be done about that outcome. 
Now, Vil’s bluntness. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being blunt. It can be seen as rude, yes, though usually it isn’t intentional. One such example is in Idia’s Dance n Wishes SR story. Vil basically tells Idia that people are the least of the worries and that the cameras will be the real issues when he sees Idia is nervous, to which Idia responds in his normal fashion, which I would like to consider an anxiety spike. Vil then goes on to say basically that he makes sure only specific people can take pictures of him, prompting Idia to get the idea for him to jam the cameras. Ultimately, Vil’s bluntness helped Idia get his idea, which significantly reduced his anxiety when actually performing.
All in all, before you decide to dislike Vil or point out every bad thing he has done, just think for a moment. Think about the context of the situation, of his reasons for it. Vil is a teenager, he’s in highschool. He’s still growing, all the boys in twst are, for the most part. Vil is no better than anyone, but think about his reasonings for doing what he does.
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wonderlyshyah1995 · 4 years ago
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