#''ten years later you Finally finish the post'' KINDLY REMOVE YOURSELF FROM MY ASS (I LOVE YOU) YOU LITERALLY BROUGHT THIS UP TO ME FIRST

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wrt your post on davekat shippers: thats like... really insightful holy shit. because i love karkat as an individual character, but come to think of it whenever i think about davekat, i dave-orient it because thats just the content im used to i guess? but, karkat has his individual problems he needs help working through, his own part in the relationship, all sorts of dynamics everyone brushes over. anyways just giving thanks because its good to remember when im writin :0

omg i was so nervous when i first opened this bc i was worried i was like .. way more unkind in my original post than i remembered being and had this brief instantaneous thought of like ….@ Me Calm Down

now i wish i had taken the time to like … articulate myself better instead of just venting but i guess i could just do that in this reply instead

tbh i have that exact same problem where i consider their relationship dynamic from dave’s perspective by default, and i think thats probably common, especially since he is SUCH a big fave and his chara dev, thought process / perspective, Emotions And Feelings were right up at front.  like, it’s fair that he’s not the only one and i think those logs were good ones to have, but i also believe that like .. proportionally speaking .. he got an unfair amount of attention compared to Literally Everyone Else Present (which i wouldnt want to take away, i just wish there was more to go around for everyone else)

what i think happened, because of this, is that there was a big shift in people’s perceptions of dave  (i seriously swear to god im not vaguing anyone in particular this really is just my like … thoughts and feelings and whatever)  which basically solidified a general trend that his character had already been headed towards, of  “way way soft with plenty of emotions and actually needs a lot of care & support” etc.  like compare 2016 dave strider with like … 2012 dave strider.  it’s truly Somethin Else

and this is not a bad thing!  but it’s just so prominent right before the ending, it’s incredibly easy to be like “this chara whomst i adore deserves so much love and support, and like … what a coincidence … his loving bug husband is Right There …. Thank Goodness”

the only thing about this that bothers me is that a lotta content just stays right there, and the fact that karkat can help him implicitly feels like the most significant thing about their relationship, even if that’s not what was intended, to me it feels like that’s what happened, though gradually

i guess the implication that dave strider is Ptsd Georg relative to the rest of the cast w their own massive fuckign problems that they also deserve love&support with is … like …. idk man it just feels unfair.  and i always think back to the GO timeline conversation karkat and dave had (that one) where dave like .. fell ass-backwards into talking him thru his Anxiety & Assorted Pessimisms and im like … wheres THAT ? give me more of THIS please, …. despite my salt i actually love those assholes so much & like .. idk i truly yearn for content where they Explicitly Clearly Both support each other thru their like trauma and neuroses and shit.  in their own slapdash jackass ways obviously

(TANGENTIALLY RELATED: i promise yall that karkat is supposed to be funny as hell … Make Karkat A Genuinely Clever Piece Of Gargbagt Again … manifests in the clouds like an ominous mufasa apparition REMEMBER WHO YOU ARE. A SMARMY GOTTAMN SHITHEAD)

also tangentially related: @fourthreetwofuckyou combat me right now