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pixelpaladin24 ยท 2 years ago
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What comes included with you?
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Tagging: @nxntiius @forthegreatergoodrp @the-raven-dhampir @lxnleybatbxy @stcrk @icecoldreactor and anyone else who wants ๐Ÿ–ค
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peekofhistory ยท 1 month ago
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Hello there! I recently discovered your blog and it's really wonderful resource. I have a question and maybe you would be able to answer. From what I know the mourning garments are white, and I've seen some in movies or dramas. But I also saw many hanfu or hanfu-like costumes in dramas that predominately use white as a color for characters. So I am a bit confused, if what is considered mourning garment is much different (in style or in cut)? or the white clothes in dramas are just something modern and for aesthetics? I hope I'm making sense here.. Anyways, cheers and thanks in advance!
Unf, such amazing questions, I love it โค๏ธโค๏ธ
I'm going to answer this one very carefully because I don't want to get screamed at for "gatekeeping" ๐Ÿ˜† Right off the bat I'm going to put a disclaimer:
Whatever show you enjoy, whichever actor/actress you like, you do you and have a good time. What I'm going to write is ONLY some trends in Chinese TV/movies over the past few decades, I'm not saying any show isn't "good", please don't hate me.
You're absolutely correct that historically, Chinese mourning clothes are white, but not just white, the material is also important. The actual term for mourning is "ๆŠซ้บปๆˆดๅญ" so if we break the words down:
ๆŠซ (pi) = to wear on the body (like a cape) ้บป (ma) = hemp (fabric) ๆˆด (dai) = to wear, to hold, to have ๅญ (xiao) = filial piety, show honour and love towards one's parents
So it's wearing white hemp and some sort of white fabric on the head to express one's respect for an elder. Mourning wear is only for those who are older than you (ex. parents, grandparents, older siblings, etc.), of a higher rank, or in some cases your superior (ex. solders in a battalion wearing mourning clothes when their captain passes).
I'll use some screenshots from the 1994 version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms as an example:
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Pic 1-3: The emperor has passed away in this situation so everyone is in full mourning attire. His court (pic 1), his concubine (pic 2), his kid (pic 3). If you enlarge the image, you'll see the material they're wearing is quite rough-looking (best seen in pic 3, the other images' resolution aren't great).
Pic 4-6: In this funeral, the Wu Kingdom's Commander of the naval forces has passed away, so almost everyone is in full mourning because that's a very high rank.
Pic 5: You'll see the man on the right isn't in mourning because he's head of the Wu Kingdom, so his rank is higher than the Commander, therefore he doesn't wear mourning clothes.
Pic 6: This man is a visitor and frenemy of the Commander. He's coming from the Shu (Han) Kingdom and because they're not from the same Kingdom, there's no consideration of whose rank is higher or lower. Therefore, he's only worn a strip of white cloth over his hair out of respect (he technically doesn't even need to wear that). Now, obviously, even though he's not required to wear white hemp mourning clothes, it's not a good idea to show up in flashing pink or electric orange (very disrespectful), so he's gone with a soft, pale blue
Pic 7: In this image, a distant relative of the leader of the Shu (Han) Kingdom has passed away (at this point in the show the Kingdom hadn't been established, so he's only the head of a province). This particular relative is younger than everyone present, so; a) he's not ranked above them b) he's not older than them
Therefore, none of them are in full mourning, but they've tied a white cloth to their belt to express respect.
The man in blue, on the right, with the black hat is a visitor from the Wu Kingdom, so much like in Pic 6 he's coming to pay respect to someone not from his Kingdom (doesn't matter the rank) and not his senior) so he's not in mourning clothes (he doesn't even have a white cloth at his belt when he turns around).
So yes, white is traditionally a mourning colour but not all white coloured clothing is for mourning. If you're wearing a white silk robe with embroideries and designs, that's not considered mourning clothes.
Now, having said that, traditionally people still tried to stay away from full on, completely white outfits from head to toe. It's just not a lucky colour to wear. A jacket that's white, or a skirt that's white with a coloured border or some colourful accessories, not a big deal, but if you're going full white in everything...just, no, lol.
As for the Chinese period dramas/movies of today...that's a really deep well to dive through. I'll try to summarize it here and do more detailed posts later on.
TV dramas/movies are never 100% historically accurate, I'm sure everyone knows this, and we don't expect them to be. But for the Chinese entertainment industry it's been becoming less and less accurate in the last 20-25 yrs or so. In terms of clothing/make up/hair/set design/aesthetics in general, there's debate on why these changes have occurred (some say video games, some say foreign aesthetic influence, etc.) but the final result is a LOT of the costumes you see in period dramas today are very, very not historically accurate or even fitting to what is considered "traditional" Chinese aesthetics.
There's a LOT of these "Xianxia" shows going around, stories about immortals and "Gods", "xian/ ไป™". I guess the character designers today feel that white somehow makes the characters feel more "immortal", more other-worldly, an imported aesthetic mainly from the West where "white" has been associated with "purity". There's actually growing push-back from the Chinese audience inside China against the character designs in recent years because people are beginning to feel like we're losing OUR aesthetic, these designs aren't what OUR Gods and immortals traditionally looked like. Here's a comparison:
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On the left we have some shows and movies from the 80s and 90s, on the right we have more recent shows.
I'll be honest...some of the clothes on the right I barely consider "Hanfu". That's not to say they're not pretty, but the Hanfu influence in them is so small at some point I start thinking, "You're essentially wearing a large-sleeved dress...". In addition to the clothes, there's the hair, the makeup, even the buildings...they're...kind of East Asian styled but not really? I can't even say they're Chinese-styled because it's so generically East Asian some of these set designs.
Traditional Chinese aesthetics favoured bold colours, and the more power and wealth you had the larger the hair styles for women, with rich, beautiful accessories. Gardens and buildings are not minimalistic at all (that leans more Japanese style), rooms are not large and empty, even in large buildings each individual room are sectioned to be fairly small. There's a running joke on Bilibili (Chinese youtube) that the Heavens have gone bankrupt these days because the costumes, the hair, and buildings look so...bare xDD
Some audiences will say these shows are fiction anyway, not set in any particular time or country but...I mean, clearly they're not writing about a Western immortal or an African God, these stories are set in the frame of Chinese characters.
In any case, basically what I'm saying is, take the Hanfu you see in dramas/movies with a grain of salt. Sometimes with a whole bag of salt. It's absolutely no problem to like them, enjoy them, cosplay them, buy them, but don't link them to anything with history unless you do some research.
And again, not saying any show is good or bad, enjoy whatever you want, this is only an opinion regarding trends in Chinese period dramas/movies. If you'd like to see what a traditional Chinese image of "Heaven" and immortals look like, here's a video from the 1986 version of Journey to the West. This is a show I would say over 80% of Chinese people have seen, most of us watched it as kids. Many, many people think it recreates the image most Chinese people have of what our "Heaven" looks like:
Src: ๅ—‘ๅญฆๅฎถไธŽๆŒ‘ๅ‰”ๅญฆๅฎถ ใ€86็‰ˆ่ฅฟๆธธ่ฎฐๆผ”ๅ‡บไบ†ไธญๅ›ฝไผ ็ปŸ็ฅžไป™่ฏฅๆœ‰็š„ๆ ทๅญใ€‘ https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DV4y1g73N/
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nimata-beroya ยท 2 years ago
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Hi! After rereading Rough Awakening (which is amazing btw) I hope you'll have someday the time to continue it (no pressure!) Since you also are a SW Rebels fan I'm interested in your opinion with regards to the parallels between SW Rebels - The Honourable Ones and especially the last two episodes of TBB season 1. Do you think they could be used to predict Crosshair's journey because of the heavy analogy between the used tropes? Thank you and stay safe!
Oh, hi, nonnie!ย Sorry for the very, super, extra late reply ๐Ÿ˜… You sent this months ago and I didn't reply right away. I was having some RL issues to deal with but I'm here now.
Thanks for the compliment ๐Ÿฅบ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ’• and this wonderful question. It's not often that I get an ask but I love them.
First, YES, I definitely will continue Rough Awakening! 100% certain. When? Um, that's what I'm not so sure about. I write like one (1) sentence when I open the document every so often, and other ideas on my head pester until I write them down and force me to push aside my old ones. You know, typical shining new idea syndrome. So it'll take a while ๐Ÿ˜… Next chapter is halfway done. There's hope, tho! I'm hyped after watching the season 2 trailer so that should motivate me to continue ๐Ÿ˜† And don't be shy to pressure me. Gently and kindly but hold me accountable. Please, I beg you. That's what I need.
Second, oh dear nonnie, you have no idea how much I love your question! I remember the first time I watched the TBB finale and how much I screamed in that scene. The Deja vu to The Honorable Ones (which is my fave ep from Rebels) and the parallels are too strong to ignore. I believe that yes, it's a possible sign that Crosshair will get his redemption eventually. Those parallels are what have me if not happy, at least not mad, at the writers for making Crosshair go back to the Empire.ย 
If I'm honest, I like the idea of him staying Imperial a bit longer more and more as time passes. Because despite the fandom's desire to have Cross back with his brothers, it makes sense story-wise that he's not. I know it sounds like a sacrilege, but hear me out! There's a difference between Kallus' and Crosshair's mental and emotional states at that point. Bahryn for Kallus, it was the moment he hit rock bottom; he had no other way to go but up after that. Kallus realized how insignificant he was to the Empire, it was the last straw, the last in a series of moments during all season 2 that led to that realization. If you rewatch Rebels' late season 1 and all season 2 you can notice those things (that at the moment seemed like nothing) that made a dent in Kallus' loyalty to the Empire. Had he not those previous moments, I think the story would've been very different. Zeb pushed Kallus over the edge but Kallus was already on the brink, even if he didn't admit it to himself. But Crosshairโ€ฆย 
Crosshair is not nearly there yet. He's (rightfully) hurt because his brothers never came for him (although I understand why they didn't). He feels betrayed by them, so he gives his loyalty to those who gave him the illusion of being loyal to him. He doesn't see that he's deep in a -pardon my French- shit pit. He's deep in it but not at the bottom yet. So he's in such a precarious situation right now. I'm so eager to see how his deteriorating relationship with Rampart is going to go, and how things will go with ES-02 because neither she nor Rampart trusts him anymore (I'm sure of this despite Rampart praising Cross in the season 2 trailer). Now, it's when he's going to see how true Hunter's words are, that he's nothing but a number to them. How long will Crosshair take to actually see, to admit that to himself? I don't know. Probably more than I'd like to and he'll do horrible things in the meantime, unfortunately.
Although after watching the trailers for season 2 I have my fingers crossed ๐Ÿคžfor some of Cody's doubts to rub on him next season. I mean, we could say that Cody is one of the few if not the only Reg clone Cross respects. There's a tiny possibility for Cross to see that even the freaking Marshall Commander of the army starts questioning the Empire's motivation and ultimate goals. Do I believe that it will change Crosshair's mind 180 degrees right on the spot? Nope. Not even close. But it might plant the seed for future consideration. It'll be another of those necessary moments in Crosshair's journey. I'm hoping that he eventually will see it and reach out to his brothers.ย 
I might add that Wrecker was right on calling Crosshair out for not contacting them after his "chip removal" (you know my position on the chip status since you've read my fic), as much as Crosshair was in roasting Hunter for abandoning him. I don't want to hear arguments about Crosshair couldn't do contact them because he'd been found out. I say that's BS. Because if it's true that the chip is gone and he was capable of coming up with all that scheme of bringing the rest of the batch to Kamino and into the training room on the pretenses of capturing them when he intended to bring them into the fold, to protect them, to save them (because it's in plain sight that he desperately wanted to be reunited with them), he very well could have sent a tiny little encrypted message to them instead of doing all that theatrics. Because regarding IQ, intelligence, cleverness, and all its synonymous, after Tech, Crosshair.ย  Nobody can convince me otherwise. This is probably a moot point since the chip is still in (watching the longer trailer at the SW celebration confirmed it for me) but I digress.
What I'm trying to say is that, beyond his rightful emotional pain for being abandoned, Crosshair is a very intelligent person with the capacity to see the truth of things, and it's my sincere hope he's on a rocky road to redemption (my only caveat is that it does not end with his death. I hate that trope. Especially when we have Kallus' example. It's possible and 100% satisfactory to have a redemption arc that ends in a happily ever after). Of course, that hope is a cautious one at best because, despite his intelligence, Crosshair's very stubborn, and also we're talking about clones and Star Wars here, so I know how it is.ย 
TL; DR. Yes, I think the parallel to The Honorable Ones is a strong sign of Crosshair's redemption arc. I can't wait to see it. It's going to be so angsty and heartbreaking but so good.
Nonnie, I hope this satisfied your curiosity and my inbox/chat is always open for more questions and discussions about all Star Wars. Don't be shy to reach out. I also hope you have a wonderful day. ๐Ÿ’š
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lokisprettygirl ยท 3 years ago
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The decent Bodyguard, Mr. Hotshot...I love him...will he stay decent ๐Ÿค”...we will see ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜†
Y/n is a very warmhearted person, a sensitive soul with broken wings. I absolutely get it why she steals her father's money... and against my expectations, not for herself! She's not selfish, yes she drinks too much, sleeps with every man who is not on the trees at three...it's just the wall she has built around her to hide her pain, dissapointment, sadness and loneliness. She wants to do something good, something worthwhile, something that gives meaning to her life. She wants to feel needed...and she wants to give love and I'm sure she has the urge to FEEL...I hope that makes sense ๐Ÿฅบ
All this fascinates Loki. He gets to know this side of her, in the animal shelter she's free like a kid and untroubled. And he has to overthink his prejudices against the 'spoiled princess'.
'Grass is good, you can sit'...this gives me some Pretty Woman vibes ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜
They get touchy and I love his reactions to it. He's receptive to it and he's caring...and feels bad about it somehow. It honoures him that he wants to stay professional but he likes her way to much already. I'm sure he knows very well that he's about to fall for her...deeply. It happend to him before with a rich depressed girl...what happend and why didn't she want his love ๐Ÿค”...I need to know about what happend and about his past!
'I'm not your friend, alright?' 'Am I being clear?' Little does he know how much he triggered y/n with these words.๐Ÿฅบ๐Ÿ˜ญ. I'm sure if he would know it, he would feel so guilty and sad about it. But he wanted to protect himself...and y/n too. Maybe the right intension (๐Ÿค”?) but the wrong words.
Fuck buddy Paris ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ...please stay away from him, he doesn't want you, in no way ๐Ÿ˜’...but I'm sure she's going to cause more trouble, otherwise it would be too easy๐Ÿ˜†
The last line got me so excited for the next chapter....I need definitely more of Mr. Hotshot ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ–ค
Thank you my Queen ๐Ÿ‘‘๐Ÿ’• I had much fun with reading this chapter and it's a great story against prejudice and an invitation to look behind the fassade of a person. There's always a reason for every action or behaviour ๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜Œ
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Yes, grass is good ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜
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And Loki in casual clothes is good, too ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜‰. I love you, my Lady ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’š
๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ–ค๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ–ค๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ–ค๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ–ค
You are correct dear, i think everyone have their own way of f dealing with pain and her's is that (remind you of someone? ๐Ÿ‘€ Hint: W)
He's attracted to her definitely or maybe it's the forbidden nature of their relationship but something is brewing between them . He's trying to protect them both but we will see how that goes.
Ahhh love the gifs my dear, I love you too ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ’š
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borathae ยท 3 years ago
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Part two of my bark
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PLEASE.
Like that's how I literally felt. TELL HER JUNGKOOK. WE CRIED ENOUGH. WE FOUGHT OURSELVES ENOUGH.
Us rn:
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L.I.T.E.R.A.L.L.Y
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IF MY FUTURE FIANCร‰ DOESN'T TELL ME THESE WORDS, HE'D BE MY FIANCร‰ WITH AN EX.
"You. You have everything You to offer. It's all I need. You."
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But I find it too all to relatable to Jungkook. Been there. Said things. Got a best frnd for life. It's so hard to convince people who think they have nothing valuable to offer as compared to us when all we want is you, my precious. Every and any relationship is a give & take, some inclined to materialistic things and others to emotions.
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We were business. I know saying that must've HURT her like labour. She's been reminding herself every fucking time she blurred or crossed those lines to get it together.
I don't want y'all to be one dimensional and think of how Jungkook's the only one hurting as bad. No, you're wrong.
Yes, she hurted him. Yes, he cried. Yes, we all blamed for doing that to him. But do we know the guilt on top of the heart break she's facing? The feeling of not being enough for someone who's just as into you as you are? And confessing it and masking every emotion to with hold her decision?
Please I FEEL SO BAD FOR HER. HER POV IS GOING TO BE GUT WRENCHING IF IT EVER COMES OUT.
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This reminds me so much of her, Sibi. I wish she was here. I was there. With her. Stop her from putting that mask on until she suffocated and decided to give up. I wish she opened up like this and told me how much she hurted when it was at peak. If only I ever heard her silent cries I would've had my best friend by my side.
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JUNGKOOK YOU-
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THE WAY SHE SAID JUNGKOOK THEN CORRECTED HERSELF TO BUNNY-
Sis, it's okay, take your shot๐Ÿ’œ
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The first read was all about me and Jungkook in our crying train of emotions but now did I get to experience ___. Omg she's been through a lot, isn't she?๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ
The way she only wanted him to wait irrespective of everything that's been on her and his mind, the way she accepted it through pain, the way she gave in although not completely, the way she's rather reminding herself not him that she does have a chance out of this, the way she laughs, chokes and agrees, everything HAS ME FUCKED.๐Ÿ˜ญ
I'm so excited FOR THE DATE SJSJSJS also low-key terrified but who cares until the date is on right? Hahaha I'm anxious though, please don't
BUT IM SO HAPPY AND SAD AND EXCITED AND ANXIOUS AT THE SAME TIME! I can't wait for the next chapter! COME ON BE THE POSTING DAY ALREADY๐Ÿ˜ซ
Also whenever she says 'fuck bunny' my mind flashes this:
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I'm done lmao.
Thank you for the SIBI-LEVEL chapter.
Had me ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿคซ๐Ÿ˜ง๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฏ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ˜ซ๐Ÿคค๐Ÿฅด๐Ÿ˜ต๐Ÿฅต๐Ÿค‘๐Ÿค ๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ
Not you coming at me with my greatest weakness aka screenshotting your fave parts and showing them to me ๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿฅบ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ’œ lisTEN I WILL SMOOCH YOU ON YOUR LIPS ๐Ÿ’•
Also:
Yes, she hurted him. Yes, he cried. Yes, we all blamed for doing that to him. But do we know the guilt on top of the heart break she's facing? The feeling of not being enough for someone who's just as into you as you are? And confessing it and masking every emotion to with hold her decision?
Catch me crying in the club with a second glass of alcohol free mimosa in my hands ๐Ÿ’” I love it so much that you can understand her so well :( seriously it means so much to me. Like Lucky really doesn't want to hurt Kook but she is just so scared to admit to herself that she is ready to love again and I just want to fucking sOB
Also lmaooao the last meme senT me because honestly? Same bestie HAHAHHAHA ๐Ÿคง๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
Thank you for barking at me, seriously I love you so much and I also feel so honoured that you shared something so personal with me. Truly it will stay safe with me ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ
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