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idk if you’re still doing the ship ask game but if so! Ted/Trent from Ted Lasso, Reggie/Alex from JATP, and/or your favorite ship from Harry Potter!
Ted/Trent: Don’t Ship It
1. Why don't you ship it?
I just don’t get a romantic vibe from them.
2. What would have made you like it?
A different kind of chemistry between the actors, or maybe more screentime? Their dynamic has been so centered on their professional roles that I don’t really have any sense of them outside of that.
3. Despite not shipping it, do you have anything positive to say about it?
I love their friendship/acquaintanceship. And I’m always very soft for dynamics that center around one character learning to check their biases and respect someone they didn’t think they would. Love the journey from “Is this a fucking joke?” to “My source was Nate.”
Reggie/Alex: Don’t Ship It
1. Why don't you ship it?
They feel like brothers to me. And there’s a very specific "Reggie as the confused younger brother and Alex as the exasperated babysitter" dynamic that makes it read as extra platonic to me.
2. What would have made you like it?
Again, it’s mostly down to what kind of chemistry I read them as having. I’m also not a multishipper, so as soon as I had Willex, I wasn’t really looking for other Alex ships. Maybe in a world without Willex? But even then, probably not.
3. Despite not shipping it, do you have anything positive to say about it?
I adore their friendship with my whole heart, and their banter brings me so much joy.
Jily: Do Ship It
1. What made you ship it?
I think mostly that we don’t get much canon information about them? So there are these great tentpoles laid out of their story—we know about the events of their fifth year and we know that James matures in a way that changes how Lily views him and leads to them going out less than two years later. And then apparently other stuff happens after they leave Hogwarts, idk none of it sounds canon to me Basically, I love that the books give us crumbs of the outline of a tragic enemies to lovers ship, and I found that outline very compelling, especially for fanworks.
2. What are your favorite things about the ship?
Most of what I said above. I also love that, even though they’re barely on the page, their presence is so strongly felt in the series and their personalities are so strong when they do appear that (if you’re Marauders-era trash), you have such a clear sense of who they are and how they work together. Also that they had one scene together on the page and they made me trash for them—the audacity of them, honestly!
3. Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship?
This isn’t an opinion as much as it is a preference: I don’t like reading canonverse Marauders fic that continues after year seven. If I don’t read about their deaths, they’re fine and alive and happy and in love and I will be taking no questions at this time!!
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Juke/Maddison & Charlie
So I just want to address something about Juke and then I’m literally not going to talk about it again, because I’ve seen a few posts about people shipping the actors and then people hating on the ship a little bit because of the age gap and it’s just been frustrating me so I wan’t to kinda get this out and then just get back to enjoying the show. Also Apologies if this upsets anyone but these are my opinions and you in no way have to agree with them I just ask that you read my thoughts fully before passing judgment and to please be respectful.
Here is what I think it is ok to do:
Shipping Luke and Julie together. Why? Because in the show they are both teenagers (16/17). I saw someone say it was kinda gross because the boys should be like 42? which I think is a little ridiculous because if they had lived sure they would have been 42 or w.e. but they didn’t... they died, and it is canon that to them no time has passed. What this means is that the boys are still mentally, emotionally and physically 17 years old. For this reason the characters are perfectly capable of being together and their biggest obstacle remains Luke being a ghost lol.
Here is what I think it is NOT ok to do:
Shipping Maddison and Charlie together in real life. Now I’m going to break down for you why this is gross and not ok and why saying “when she’s 18 he can date her” is also not ok.
A 16 year old and a 22 year old have two completely different maturity levels. A 16 year old can be mature absolutely but that doesn’t mean that they are at the same maturity level as a 22 year old. I’m 26 and I can tell you that my maturity changed DRASTICALLY between the ages of 16-24. I use to think I was very mature when I was 16. When I hit 22 and looked back at who I was I realized that I was not nearly as mature as I believed I was and now at 26 I can clearly see the differences in who I was as a person at these ages. I can guarantee that most people (if they’re self aware enough) would agree that their maturity level was completely different as a teenager then it was once they hit their twenties. A lot of this has to do with the simple fact that in your 20′s you’ve typically gained more life experience through jobs, and relationships and higher education your brain has also developed more. Now. Maddison is definitely mature for her age in no way am I claiming she isn’t however it is still very obvious through different interviews and lives I’ve seen of her and of Charlie that they are not at the same level. Mentally, emotionally, physically.They definitely have more of a brother/sister friendship. It’s clear that they care about each other and they can of course get a long as friends but friendship and an intimate relationship are two completely different things. Maddison and Charlie’s maturity’s work fine as a friendship but if you were to factor in intimacy and romance it quickly becomes problematic. Some people might still think that the maturity levels don’t matter. I’m here to tell you it does.
While I don’t think that Charlie would be the type of guy to ever pressure a girl he is with, that doesn’t mean that the pressure would not still exist. If they were to hypothetically date Maddison could easily feel pressured into participating in things she might not really feel ready for like certain intimate acts, parties ect because she want’s to please her partner or because she might feel like this is what she SHOULD be doing rather then doing what she is emotionally and mentally ready for. That pressure can easily influence someone of a young age who hasn’t had many experiences into doing things they eventually regret or doing things that end up having a negative impact on their mental health and the way they view themselves or even how they view healthy/unhealthy relationships down the line. Now Maddison seems smart and has a good support system but your support system can’t protect you 24/7 in an intimate relationship no matter how hard they try which is why a lot of teenagers end up going through something that they end up wishing they hadn’t done because they didn’t know any better. To also say that he can just “wait” for her to turn 18 is just predatory and gross and suggests that it’s still ok to pursue someone of a young age so long as you wait till they are legal which it is not that still means you wanted to be with a minor even if you wait till they are 18.
Also it is important to note that an actors personal life is NONE of your business. An Actors job is to perform in the show/play/movie that they have been hired to perform in and to then promote that project. That’s it. That is all they owe you and anything else is entirely up to their discretion. You are not owed information about their personal lives and you are not owed a say in who they date. If you like two actors who are dating and you think they are cute that’s fine, if they are sharing their relationship and you want to support it that is fine but you have to understand boundaries. I’ve seen fans overstep in a LOT of fandoms (one example being Lili and Cole from Riverdale) where they attack other people for being close to the people in the relationship or they bother the actors to update them about their relationship ect. It’s disrespectful and it’s honestly not your place regardless of if they have shared information about a relationship previously. It’s also not cool to try to pressure the actors into dating, you don’t know what they are actually like irl you have no idea if they are actually compatible you do not have a full picture of the situation and for that reason your opinion should be kept to yourself.
Finally I want to address the whole Luke & Julie kissing issue because I totally understand why people are a little uncertain about it due to the age gap. Now normally I’d be a little put off by it but I am actually ok with the idea of Luke and Julie kissing on screen and I’m just going to list off quickly below why I think it’s ok and why I wouldn’t get upset if it happened.
1. It is very clear that Maddison’s family (specifically her dad) are very involved with Maddison and her job on JATP. Mr.Reyes is often shown on set with her at rehearsals and during shooting. He was there when they practiced the perfect harmony dance which I personally thought was kinda intimate. I feel better about it because I know she has a strong support system who will be there to ensure that if a kiss DID happen she would be safe because she has her family looking out for her on set.
2. Much like above both Kenny and Charlie are very respectful people who very clearly have a lot of respect and love for Maddison. I also don’t think they would ever put Maddison into a position she was uncomfortable with. If a kiss DID happen I am sure there will be a lot of conversations about it and it would be done in a respectful healthy way.
3. This is a job. They are not kissing because they like each other in real life they are not pursuing anything romantically. They are performing a job that they are being paid for in front of a group of people also performing a job. This for me helps me feel less gross about it because even though they are actually kissing it’s not a ‘real’ romantic kiss. It’ll be a staged one that they have gone over and discussed at length with Kenny.
4. This is a Kenny Ortega project. The show has very clearly established that the relationships are about more than physical intimacy. IF we get a kiss between Julie and Luke we are not going to get more then a PG rated kiss.. hell probably more of a G rated kiss. Not only because this is a project by Kenny but because the actors are different ages. It is also unlikely that we will get more then one maybe two kisses a season. I personally don’t think they’re going to make them kiss in season two I think it might happen if we get season 3 but I would still be ok with a season 2 kiss because again it will probably be very simple and very respectful especially cause it’ll also probably be Julie’s 1st kiss. If they were to have them make out or something that would be when I would feel uncomfortable, but that just doesn’t seem like Kenny’s vibe. He’s worked with a lot of young actors and it’s not like they’re going to french kiss or something. Kissing is intimate of course but a small closed mouth kiss is honestly pretty innocent in my opinion especially if done correctly. So it doesn’t bother me much.
5. Finally by the time they get around to filming a season 2 or 3 Maddison will also be a bit older (17 or 18) hopefully so she will also be at an age where it will feel more comfortable for her.
So in conclusion: shipping Juke good, shipping Maddy & Charlie bad and wanting Juke to kiss is acceptable so long as they do it appropriately which from what I’ve seen of the cast and the crew I believe they would. I personally have a lot of faith in the creators of this show it’s clearly a very healthy supportive environment and I trust that they know what they are doing.
Again these are my personal opinions but I felt like some people weren’t really looking at it from a completely logical standpoint but more of an emotional one which is understandable because its a very serious subject matter and it could very well also be a trigger for many people who’ve gone through something similar. I just needed to get all that off my chest cause this kind of thing can breed negativity in fandoms and thats why I don’t participate in them anymore. and listen if this was a different show with a different cast and crew and creator and they had a 16 year old and a 22 year old kissing I would probably find it more unsettling but I think one of the reasons why we all love this show so much is BECAUSE it is so healthy and because the cast are so involved and vocal about the show. I have no doubt in my mind that Maddison would have the space to speak up if she was uncomfortable and I have no doubt in my mind that Kenny and her family would make sure she was safe.
So anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk and please if you disagree that’s totally ok just don’t be hateful, I’m happy to have discussions but I won’t tolerate rudeness cause at the end of the day it’s a show and it’s out of our hands and I’m not saying you have to agree with me. This is just how I feel about these issues.
Ok thanks bye <3
#Jatp#Julie and the phantoms#Juke#Julie and luke#Julie molina#Luke patterson#maddison reyes#charlie gillespie#Just my opinion you don't have to agree#please just be respectful
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omg, i'm so sorry your phone the asks! i was the one who requested a harry potter + jatp request. it's no trouble to send it again! i hope you liked the ship that i did for you (now it's a secret that'll stay between us 🤭)
here are a few things about me:
my name is Ella, i'm 17
i'm a straight girl
i'm 5'5" (196cm) tall
my hogwarts house is ravenclaw (aka the best house, obviously)
i'm definitely the mom friend of the group, i love hugging people and making them feel good about themselves
i'm closed off emotionally, very seldom do i find it easy to open up
my mbti type is intj (i promise i'm not a cold person!)
i'm cancer sun & aquarius rising
i LOVE to read! i aways have a book with me everywhere i go
i'm obsessed with history, literature, philosophy and quantum physics. i breathe those things...
i play the piano but i really want to learn how to play the bass (i believe it's just as important in a song than the guitar tbh)
i don't know how to sing, but i do it anyways because it's fun!
i'm sorry if i gave you too much information! have a happy new year 💕💕💕
thank you for sending it in again!! also i loved your secret ship for me, it was amazing!!
i ship you with reggie peters!
first off, no one will change my mind, reggie needs hugs to function
so the fact that you love giving hugs is literally PERFECT!!
also the fact you wanna play bass (which is one of the coolest instruments tbh) is amazing
cause reggie 100% wants to teach you
like he will like forward to you coming in and teaching you
also i think reggie is like taller than luke but shorter than alex so your being 5’5 makes him feel tall but in a good way
“ella can you read to me?”
AHHHH I WOULD CRY
also as someone who is incredibly emotional closed off i understand the scary part of opening up
but i know reggie would be so calm about it
“take your time”
and whenever you tell him your arent ready he just smiled and goes on about him so you feel closer to him
also 100% spend like a week explaining hogwarts house to him and he’s convinced he’s every single one
we know he’s a hufflepuff it’s okay
and when he finds out you’re a ravenclaw HE GETS SO PROUD
“LOOK HOW SMART ELLA IS!”
“THAT’S MY ELLA!”
he probably calls you nerd but not in a rude way
“what’s my nerd doing today?”
also since they are ghosT YOU ALWAYS TELL THEM ABOUT THE PHYSICS OF STUFF
and they all are like “yeah, cool, music?”
BUT REGGIE WILL LITERALLY TUNE HIS BASS WHILE LISTENING
ugh y’all are so cute ahhhh
i ship you with james potter!!
as a marauders enthusiast, i can see this 100%
first he’d definitely try and make a deal on who could learn a FULL song on the bass first
(you 100% win because he liked watching you play more than playing)
also i feel like james is the mom friend of the marauders so when y’all are together it’s perfect
“didnt ella tell you to stop staying up so late?”
“james, sirius is trying to run away again!”
i feel like he’d be confused why you don’t open up to him but he doesn’t let it get to him
he’s just like it will come when it comes
tbh he needs someone that will calm him down when he gets too excited
like you kinda grab his arm and tell him to seat with you and do some homework or maybe read
also james potter definitely would like physics
100%
but he refuses to fine stuff himself he just wants you to tell him everything
also he definitely brags to his parents about dating a ravenclaw
“well my girlfriend, you ella, she did fantastic on her owls and...”
remus will look at you when james does something stupid and respond
“you still like him?”
“obviously, look at that smile!”
the marauders love you
AND LILY AND YOUD BE SO CLOSE
because i have a feeling lily hates opening up so you’d both get along in that department
over you and james= power couple
please enjoy and send in a ship!!
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