#//But his favor is most definitely with his younger siblings. THEIR views of him didn't change when he came back from the Abyss
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#i know youre mostly a Dick guy but your tim. chefs kiss.#i dont even go here anymore and i had to rb @mollyhats
The great tragedy of Tim for me is I actually love 90s Tim and his dynamic with his YJ team and with Dick and many others. Its only post Final Crisis Tim that I don't really have much interest in, in terms of comic book canon, and I don't find anything really compelling about most depictions I see of Tim in fandom. Like I just mean, the vast majority of people don't seem to view Tim the way I do, or emphasize the same aspects of him, and Tim in and of himself isn't enough of a fave that I feel compelled to yell and expound upon my takes on him in spite of that. The way I do with Dick or even Jason when I have vastly different takes on them than other people seem to.
And I admit there definitely is an element of....annoyance, at play - like even though (as you know) I vehemently disagree with presumptions that Dick was an ass to Jason when they were younger, with that being a big part of the basis for why so many Jason stans hate him, I get that there wasn't a ton of material written about Dick and Jason when they were younger, showing a strong relationship that's to the contrary of how the fanon usually characterizes them at that time.
The difference with Tim, and how so much of his fandom seems to view Dick and their dynamic and history.....is that there's well over a decade's worth of material showing Dick constantly dropping everything to prioritize Tim when the latter needed him, no questions asked, and this STILL wasn't enough to keep fandom from characterizing Dick as this terrible, selfish, ungrateful brother who doesn't deserve Tim as of the first instant Dick DIDN'T default to prioritizing Tim above all others. And not even because he didn't want to, but because he had other people who needed him too, with conflicting needs/wants, and no one person can be all things to JUST one other person 24/7. Sometimes other people have to get to come first too. Sharing is caring, lmfao.
But yeah, the way Dick so often gets thrown under the fandom/fanfic bus in the name of propping up Tim, specifically in the form of being characterized as a shitty brother who never cared about Tim or EVER put him first, when there's like......dozens upon dozens of comics characterizing them to the contrary of that.....it grates, in a way that makes me just not want to engage all that much.
So all of that plays into why I'm generally....aloof about Tim other than posts or meta meant as course correction for stuff where fanon has completely overtaken canon and misrepresented huge elements of Dick and Tim's history, like with the Red Robin era. And why I'm not particularly driven to write about him in specific, in fic or meta. But when I do, especially when depicting him in fic or writing snippets, I don't find it hard to write him favorably, because I DO genuinely like him at a lot of points in the comics. Its just *waves hand* a lot of fandom bullshit that gets in the way.
Its not like we're not all aware that sometimes stans of characters can be their faves' own worst enemies. And I say that with full self-awareness and recognition that my own intensity or takes about Dick Grayson have most likely been as off-putting to some fans of other characters as I find them to be, lmao. Round and round and round we go.
But anyway.....my preferred takes on Tim, or default mental view of him, is as a chaotic, irreverent little shit whose sense of humor and tendencies to stir things up are not at all dissimilar to most of his siblings.....he's just more deadpan about it. Which is something many of the others play up at times too, but with them its just one of many angles from which they approach their own respective senses of humor, whereas Tim I see as someone who prides himself on never 'breaking' and keeping up appearances of stern or quiet or detached professionalism even while he's cackling about something on the inside. I see him as a big fan of plausible deniability, but not in any way actually humorless or anything like that.
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Family Dynamics
=Neytiri=
Neytiri bonds with you on a level Kiri does not. You are exactly like your mother. Fierce and strong. Kiri had never shown much interest in what her mother does. You on the other hand were often stuck to your mother's side.
The villager would often smile as they saw you walk past trailing behind your mother holding firmly onto her tail so as not to fall behind.
She hated to admit it but in your younger years, you were definitely your mother's favorite. You were a calm baby. Easy to handle. And with Lo’ak fussing all the time she was glad for that.
She taught you how to braid your hair.
She also likes braiding your hair while she tells you the story of how she met your father for the millionth time.
She's a firm parent but she is always understanding.
When you were a baby she would simply hold you singing you a lullaby as you played with her braids.
She taught you how to use a bow and ride a direhorse. (since you learned both rather quickly she would mutter under her breath that you didn't get those skills from your father)
She doesn't have a nickname for you, your name is filled with more love and meaning than any other word to her.
=Jake=
Jake has always had a soft spot for his girls. You were no different.
He takes on the real american dad stance with his girls. When it comes to his girls he views all opposite sex as a threat.
Whenever he looked after all four of you, Kiri and you were always in a sling on his chest while the boys were on his back.
He always had to run after you, always had to search for you when you wandered off to go exploring.
Due to this you spent most of your time in his arms.
When you were fussy the only time that would calm you down was being laid on his chest.
When you were older he taught you all his military fighting experience he had. His reasoning when asked why he was doing this by your mother was “so she can beat the shit out of anyone she wants,”
He sees Tom and himself in you and Lo’ak. Lo’ak being his reckless self and you being responsible and smart like Tom.
He calls you nosy nelly teasingly and sweetheart affectionately.
=Mo’at=
She see’s alot of her eldest daughter in you.
She was the proudest of you when you decided to become a storyteller. A great honor among your tribe.
While your spiritual connection with Eywa was nothing like Kiri, she could sense that your understanding was on a deeper and more silent level.
You understood things quickly, meaning she couldn't fish out enough information to keep up with your consumption.
Since you were always getting hurt she would see you in the healer's hut at least once a week.
She would scold you slightly but always with a smile.
She loved how your eyes shone in wonder when she told you a new story.
She loves how you appreciate the small things in life.
She would often say you were an old energy. A soul that had been returned to Eywa many times.
You were also the only grandchild that asked to meet her mate. Something that made her favor you slightly more than your siblings. (she loves you all equally though)
She affectionately calls you “My little wise one,”
=Neteyam=
You were his first little sister. Kiri was only a month younger than him so she wasn't that much younger.
When Lo’ak and Kiri would argue you both would give each other raised eyebrows.
You never fought. The closest thing to a fight you two had was when he accidentally hissed at you after you accidentally stepped on his tail. You cried which in turn made him cry. You both cried most of that day. (granted you were only four and five at the time)
Then Lo’ak teased the both of you because of it. Then you and Neteyam vowed to only ever cry in front of each other. A silly promise made by kids that carried on when you grew up.
Neteyam only ever cried in front of you. You understood him in a way nobody else could.
Mo’at would often joke that you and Neteyam were supposed to be twins.
Neteyam trusts you unconditionally.
You both took up the role of looking after your siblings, Neteyam physically and you emotionally.
You both would often be dragged into Lo’aks stupid decisions.
He only even voiced his worry and burdens to you. Because you knew when to listen and went to speak.
You both showed your weakest selves to each other.
He affectionately called you “Little sister,”
=Kiri=
You two were very close.
You were the first one to find out about her gift. You were the first person she told.
She loved how in awe you were of her gift. You would constantly ask questions and she was more than happy to tell you everything about it. You kept her secret for seven years.
In her moody teenage years she was happy to have you around. Because you knew when to talk and when she simply wanted someone to be there for her if she needed.
When she was mad you would walk up to her and sit down resting your back against hers as you occupied your hands with a task. You would hum a song and it would calm her down immensely.
Whenever you found her staring at her hand’s wondering why she was different you would take her hands and pull her away to distract her.
Kiri loved how you understood her, even without words.
When she was with you she wasn't such a moody teenager.
There was a time where Kiri struggled with the fact that she wasn't a real child of Neytiri and jake. All her worries were washed away by you and a simple sentence. You said “Family isn’t blood. It's the love we have for one another,” You were seven when you said that but it has stuck with her, her whole life.
You would cheer her up by bringing her favorite food.
She teasingly calls you "Nerd", affectionately she calls you “little nin”
=Lo'ak=
As twins you two had an unspoken bond.
You could always tell each other's emotions.
You had twin telepathy to a certain extent. You could understand the direction of the other’s train of thought.
Yet you butted heads with Lo’ak the most out of all your siblings. Yet you could never really stay angry at him longer than an hour or so.
You two were often seen together, Lo’ak would often try and explain and teach stuff to you that you already knew. You didn't tell him though. You let him have his fun.
He would find entertainment in trying to get a reaction out of you. Which meant he would annoy you for hours on end. He only even made you break your composure three times. All which resulted in a visit to the healers tent.
Lo’ak always insisted on sparing you. Each time he would believe he would win and each time he would have his hopes crushed.
He liked competing with you because unlike Neteyam, you actually lost sometimes. (You let him win)
When he was bored he would seek you out and just converse with you about anything and everything.
You would often race your Ikran’s any chance you got.
Lo’ak would secretly ask you to train him if he wanted to learn something new. He wasn't as embarrassed if he failed in front of you compared to the other members of the family.
He teasingly called you “Ninny, or womb buddy”. Affectionately he called you “Little twin”
=Tuk=
She absolutely adores you. You are the best big sister in her eyes and she's not afraid to say it.
Jokingly the family would ask her who her favorite was and seriously she would say you.
She views you as a goddess that can do no wrong.
She wants to be like you when she grows up.
She's constantly trailing behind you or helping you with things.
She spends most of her free time practicing braiding on your hair. (Which you leave a section out for her)
She loves to hear you sing. Sometimes refusing to go to bed without having heard a song from you.
She often piggybacks on your Ikran when you go for flights.
She loves your scars having names for each one.
She affectionately calls you “NinNin,”
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It seems that most of Consort Xing's children don't share the same views of superiority she has in regards to their half-siblings. What do they think about their mother's belief, themselves?
Hello! ❤️ I'd be glad to answer this!
You'd be mostly right in that assumption! The younger 3 don't really know better, but the older 3 find her ... actions to be annoying or simply just don't like her.
More under the cut!
Kutuo: Kutuo does Not like her mother one bit. They'd probably have a better relationship if Consort Xing didn't constantly ignore her/brush her off while she was growing up in favor of her younger brother, Pihen. That said, Kutuo also isn't very close to any of her siblings, half or full, either. She doesn't consider herself superior than them, but she also doesn't go out of her way to interact with them.
Pihen: Pihen has a ... complicated relationship with his mother. On one hand, she's pretty overbearing with the whole "you will be the heir" thing. He's also said several times before he doesn't want to be anywhere near the throne. Pihen is also shier than his siblings, so he doesn't really speak out against her, just quietly sits there. He does also still care for her, she is his mother, even if she sucks. He doesn't view himself as better than his siblings, though. His closest friend is actually MC's older brother, Second Prince Nan Shuailu, much to his mother's disgust.
Duanzu: Duanzu thinks his mother is an idiot and doesn't care what she says; he's not listening. He, 5th/6th Prince Nan Casao, and 6th/7th Prince Nan Kenlu share most of the same tutors, being so close in age. They all hang out together too, making a trio of teen boys that enjoy terrorizing the palace. While Duanzu doesn't think he's better than his siblings, he does think he's better than most people. So, he's still trying to shake off his mother's lingering aftereffects.
Zhuanying: Zhuanying is just on the cusp of being able to think critically for herself. She is always annoyed that her mother makes her stay in their palace and play by herself or with her nannies, even though she can see Liangxu, Tuojiu, Genbi, and Zhuibi all playing together outside. She doesn't quite get when her mother says that she's "above" them, either. Give her like 3-5 years, and she'll be in a similar spot to Kutuo regarding her mother.
Zuoya: Zuoya is 4 years old, so he doesn't really know better/different. He does get lonely, only playing with his nannies or Zhuanying or Tangye, on the off chance, so he could definitely benefit from some socialization. He's not learning very well either. His nannies aren't very good at trying to teach him the basics, but Luexia won't come help unless Consort Xing apologizes to her (Luexia's) mother (Consort Dou) for what she (Consort Xing) did, which she wouldn't do even if the world was ending.
Tangye: Tangye is 1. Her only concern is who's going to change her diaper and when she gets milk. And right now, Consort Xing and her milk-nurse are the only people with milk and her maids/nannies change her diaper. LMAO
#the vermillion court#asks#side characters#character lore#if: xing fangguo#if: nan kutuo#if: nan pihen#if: nan duanzu#if: nan zhuanying#if: nan zuoya#if: nan tangye
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Mobei-Jun's harem
Bc yes, he has one (in this AU).
1. Sha Hualing ("Ling-er")
SHL was promised to MBJ when they were both children, and she spent her summers in the Crystal Ice Palace so they could get to know each other better. They were married as soon as they were both of age.
Because they grew up together, he mostly views her as a younger sister.
Have they slept together? No, but she likes to playfully flirt and tease a lot, without meaning anything by it. She'll often hang off of him or sit in his lap.
A pre-SQH era wife.
2. Bei Xiwang ("Bei-furen")
MBJ's second cousin, and also an ice demon. The marriage was arranged specifically to try to give MBJ a pureblood ice demon heir, but they get along well. They're the couple with the most PDA, but its generally PG—lots of gentle kisses and handholding whenever they're together.
She's very serene and classy, but she's an introvert and prefers to keep her own company most of the time.
Have they slept together? Yes. They're trying for that ice baby.
They were married after MBJ met SQH, probably roughly around the time he became peak lord.
3. Hongshu ("Hongshu-meiren")
A sibling of Zhuzhi-Lang. While snake boy did not win the genetic lottery, the same is not true of Hongshu! Their marriage was arranged to try to merge the Mobei bloodline with that of the Heavenly Demons.
She's the kind of person who's beautiful and knows it, and not afraid to flaunt it. The type of person who'd be a classic "mean girl" if she didn't have friends to point out when she's being a bitch. It's not intentional!
Have they slept together? Yes, but rarely. She's pretty annoyed by it, honestly, and is on a seduction campaign.
A post-Peak Lord SQH, but pre-LBH in the Abyss wife.
4. Li Meili ("Lady Li")
A (formerly) human cultivator who was transformed into a demon after slaughtering 1,000 demons (yes, I took that transformation lore from Saiyuki).
She was given to MBJ bc no one (cultivation world and demon clans alike) was really sure what to do with her.
She's very boisterous, likes to fight, generally gives off "big sister" vibes.
Have they slept together? No, but MBJ shows her a lot of favor.
A post-canon wife.
5. Shang Qinghua
Well, not yet. They've been stuck in the pattern of King-Servant for so long, there might be some difficultly shaking themselves out of it. But the wives have been making some (friendly) pointed remarks lately.
MBJ, at breakfast: Qinghua, arrange for a new pavilion to be built. This king will be marrying again.
SQH, who manages the palace finances, sweating: My king, you already have four wives! Maybe you should slow down a bit? (He's definitely thinking of the 600 wife characters LBH isn't going to marry this time around, and wondering if MBJ is filling the role)
MBJ, calmly holding eye contact: This king doesn't have a husband yet.
#svsss#ahahahahahaha#I dunno if I'll ever write this bc I don't actually have a plot#fanfiction thoughts
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