#& . JOEL ( . . . ) MAYBE NOBODY SAVES THE WORLD ; THEY JUST SAVE EACH OTHER'S LIVES OVER &. OVER .

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MY DEAR WIFE. I DESIRE A SEQUEL TO THE JIMMY EMPIRE FIC. I MADE THIS TUMBLR ACCOUNT TO MAKE MY DEMANDS. NOW GO BE FREE. WRITE YOU FANTASTIC FANFIC WRITER YOU. -BEST SPOUSE, PURP <3

this was a popular request LMAO :D

here’s the first part

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The ringing of her communicator wakes Lizzie up late in the night. Blinking herself awake, she quickly answers it, speaking quietly so as to not awaken her sleeping fiance next to her. “Hello?”

“Lizzie, it’s Pixl,” comes the familiar British voice. “I’m so sorry to wake you.”

“It’s okay,” Lizzie says. “Is something wrong?”

“Something’s happened with Jimmy.”

Lizzie’s heart skips a beat. “Is he okay?”

“I’ll explain everything later but I could really use your help right now. Are you able to come to the Cod Empire?”

Momentarily forgetting that Pixl can’t see her, Lizzie nods. “Of course, I’ll come over right away.”

“Thanks so much, Lizzie,” says Pixl gratefully. “See you soon.”

“See you.”

Lizzie puts down her communicator and gets out of bed. Just as she’s finished changing, her fiance stirs in his bed and murmurs, “What’s going on? Who was that?”

“Pixl,” replies Lizzie softly, secretly glad he’s awake; she wouldn’t have woken him first. “Something’s happened to Jimmy, and Pixl needs me. You okay to come over to the Cod Empire with me?”

Joel sits up in his bed, immediately more awake. “Of course, of course. Let me get dressed.”

The two fly straight over to the Cod Empire and land outside Jimmy’s house. Pixl answers the door on the first knock. “Queen Lizzie, thank you for coming,” he says gratefully. “And King Joel.”

He leads them inside. Lizzie and Joel both gasp simultaneously as they spot Jimmy lying on the bed.

Joel freezes but Lizzie dashes to his side and grasps his hand, staring down in horror at the bruises covering Jimmy’s face. “Oh my goodness! What happened to him?! Is he okay?!”

Pixl joins her on Jimmy’s other side. “He’s recovering,” he responds grimly. “You know the demon Xornoth that’s shown their face around the server lately?”

“Heard of them.”

“fWhip and Sausage seem to be around the epicentre of the whole thing. They captured Jimmy, kept him in a cell for a whole day, beat him several times, then tried to sacrifice him to Xornoth. Scott and I managed to save him but he almost died from his injuries before Scott was able to heal him somewhat with magic.”

Lizzie gazes down at Jimmy with a worried expression, gently touching his face. He stirs slightly under her touch.

After a moment, she speaks again, her tone low and dangerous. “fWhip and Sausage, you said?”

Pixl nods. “Yeah. Scott and I chased them off but I’m a little worried about them returning to finish the job. That’s why I asked you over; I could do with some help protecting him. If that’s okay.”

“Of course it’s okay.” Lizzie retracts her hand and presses her fist into her palm. “Hell, if either of them show their faces around here, I’ll rip them apart with my bare hands.”

Now Joel moves closer to the bed, his expression uncharacteristically serious. “Poor Jimmy… I can’t imagine how terrified he must’ve been.”

As Pixl opens his mouth to respond, another knock at the door sounds. The three frown at each other, trying to work out who could possibly be at the door.

After a moment, Pixl heads back over to the door and answers it. His gaze darkens when he sees who’s standing there. “You’re not welcome here.”

Lizzie stiffens as she hears MythicalSausage’s voice: “I just wanted to ask how Jimmy is. And to… apologise.”

“Apologise?!” Lizzie bursts out.

Joel draws Pixl out of the way as Lizzie storms to the door and shoves Sausage backwards. “You TORTURED my friend and you think you can just walk over here and APOLOGISE?!”

Sausage scrambles back as a furious Lizzie bears down on him. “I had nothing to do with hurting him! That was all fWhip!”

“YOU THINK THAT MAKES IT BETTER?!” Lizzie bellows.

She flings out her arms and manipulates the ocean water into grabbing hold of Sausage and bringing him closer to her. “ACK!” Sausage chokes, struggling uselessly. “LIZZIE!”

“I’m going to kill you, Sausage,” growls Lizzie. “Would you rather be flung high into the air and fall to your death or drowned in salty ocean water?”

“N-Neither!”

A dark smile appears on Lizzie’s face. “Too bad. I’ve decided I’m gonna drown you.”

She lifts the water higher. His scream is abruptly cut off as the water envelopes his head, stopping him from breathing. She watches with satisfaction as his air slowly runs out.

But then Pixl’s voice comes from behind her: “Lizzie, he’s calling for you. He needs you.”

Lizzie pauses, weighing up her options. Eventually, she releases Sausage onto the dock, taking grim pleasure in the way he splutters and coughs up water. “You’re lucky this time, Sausage,” she says. She kneels down beside him and pushes her face close to Sausage’s with a menacing glare. “But if you ever, and I mean EVER, come near Jimmy again, you’re gonna wish you were never born. Do I make myself clear?”

“Y-Y-Yes!” gasps Sausage.

Lizzie steps back and lets Sausage flee, before rushing back inside and back to Jimmy’s side. Her ally is stirring, his eyelids fluttering. “L-Lizz...ie…”

“I’m here,” whispers Lizzie softly, holding his hand against her cheek to reassure him of her presence. “I’m here, Jimmy. Are you okay?”

Jimmy coughs weakly. “M-My wrists hurt.”

Frowning, Lizzie pushes down Jimmy’s sleeve, revealing the thick red marks. “Wh-What is this?!” she gasps. “Pixl?”

“It’s…” Pixl hesitates, knowing what his next words will likely cause. “They’re burn marks. He had his hands tied behind his back for most of the day in that cell.”

Joel glances sharply at his fiancee. “Uh oh.”

Thunder sounds overhead as dark clouds rapidly slide across the sky. Lizzie’s expression remains steady, but lightning flashes in her eyes. “I’ll be right back, Jimmy,” she says, her voice as steady as her expression. But it’s just an act for Jimmy’s benefit and both Pixl and Joel know it.

Neither Pixl nor Joel stop her as she storms out of the hut and takes off flying towards the Grimlands. She lands atop the outer wall, rain starting to fall from the sky.

“FWHIP!” she bellows, her voice rolling through the clouds and echoing across the land.

Seconds later, the count himself appears atop his tower, within audible distance despite the increasingly loud thunder overhead. “Queen Lizzie!” He spreads his arms wide. “How may I help you?”

A bolt of lightning strikes the very top of fWhip’s tower.

“Aha, what have I done to invoke the wrath of the Ocean Queen?” fWhip laughs.

Instead of replying verbally, Lizzie lifts her arms and summons a giant wave of water from the river, sending it crashing down like a tsunami over the Grimlands.

“NO!” fWhip yells. “My villagers! You’re gonna drown my villagers!”

“MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE YOU TORTURED JIMMY AND TRIED TO MURDER HIM!” roars Lizzie.

fWhip stares at her for a moment as he finally remembers that Lizzie is one of Jimmy’s closest allies. “...oh…”

Shaking himself into action, fWhip dives down into his flooded village. Lizzie watches him, taking grim satisfaction in watching him flounder around in desperation. She doesn’t even realise how close he is to death until-

fWhip drowned

Lizzie quickly dissipates the flood and jumps down to look for fWhip’s items. As she’s starting to pick them up, fWhip reappears, so she retreats back to a safe distance.

“I’ll get my revenge for this, Ocean Queen,” growls fWhip. “I will not take the attempted murder of my villagers lying down.”

“I don’t give a crap,” Lizzie snaps back. “Don’t you dare think about going near Jimmy ever again, because if you do, I can promise you I will wipe your goddamn empire off the face of the world and I will NOT regret doing it.”

fWhip narrows his eyes. “You’re messing with the wrong empire. I too have the power to wipe an empire out of existence.”

“I live in the ocean. The bulk of my empire is underwater now. Your TNT will make a scratch at most.”

fWhip’s mouth opens, then closes again. After a moment, he looks away. “Fine.”

Lizzie raises an eyebrow. “Really? You’re backing down that easily?”

“I’m being smart. You’ve no idea what’s coming, Lizzie. I do. I need to prepare. I can’t afford to be dragged into another war right now.”

As fWhip turns, he finds Lizzie extremely close to him. She grabs the collar of his shirt and pulls him close so that their faces are inches apart. “Then don’t start one,” she snarls. “Stay away from my allies.”

She shoves fWhip away and takes off again, flying back to the swamp. Part of her feels bad at the attack on fWhip’s innocent villagers but she pushes it aside. fWhip tortured Jimmy and was perfectly willing to slaughter him when he was tied up and defenceless.

Lizzie has no sympathy or mercy for a person like that.

When she gets back, Joel meets her at the door. “Lizzie, you’re back!” he gasps. “I saw the death message in chat.”

“Yes. fWhip needed to be told that I won’t tolerate him hurting my Jimmy.” Her gaze flickers from Joel to Pixl and back again. “Or any of you.”

Joel gazes at her with almost visible hearts in his eyes. “I love you so much, Lizzie.”

Lizzie can’t help a chuckle. “I love you too.”

“Guys, guys, come quick!” Pixl calls suddenly. “Guys!”

The two quickly rush to Jimmy’s beside but stop dead simultaneously when they see what Pixl is so panicked about.

A mark has appeared on Jimmy’s neck. It looks like some kind of rune, but what’s worrying about it is the fact that it’s glowing red.

“What is this?” Lizzie gasps. “What’s happening?”

“I don’t know! It just appeared!”

After a few seconds, the glowing dies down, leaving only the clear black mark.

“This has got to be something to do with the demon,” says Pixl shakily. “I don’t know what or how or why, but somehow, fWhip and Sausage’s attempted sacrifice of Jimmy must’ve caused this.”

“But what can we do about it?” Joel asks. “What can we do to help?”

Pixl has no answer to this.

Nobody does.

[ms-rampage]

Eden’s Gate: Kidnapped Chapter 17 - The Last of Us Part 1

In the series finale of Eden’s Gate: Kidnapped, our heros the Winchester family face the Seed family. But who will come out alive? Who will live? What’s the fate of Hope County? Who betrayed who? Find out next week on Dragon Ball Z!!!.

Word count: 3k+

Warnings: Swearing, drug usage (bliss), ANGST. 

Okay to be honest, I literally start to cry while I writing one of the scenes in this. Might be 1 or 2 Supernatural moments between the sisters.

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“No, no, no this can’t be happening!!” Paige exclaims in panic, pulling on her hair. 

Joseph continues to look down at Cristina, cradling her in his arms.

Paige pacing in the cage, rage fuming off of her. 

Jacob approaches the cage where the two sisters are in.

“You!!” Paige points at him, “You motherfucker!!” she spits.

John approaches the cage from behind Jacob.

“You fucking asshole John!!” Kate snaps at him, standing up grabbing the bars aggressively, and shaking them.

He is taken aback by her sudden outburst as well as Paige.

The look of surprise on his face as the girl he once loved is raging, angry, and yelling at him.

John should be lucky the cage has extra bars going across it horizontally because Kate looks like she wants to strangle the life out of him.

“Where’s my husband?? Where are my friends??. Where’s my mom??” Paige yells at them, looking aggravated.

Joseph steps forward towards the cage, still looking down at Cristina.

“Why are you holding her?!?” Paige snaps at Joseph, he looks up at her.

She just wants to slap those stupid Aviators off his face.

He looks back down at her daughter. “She’s beautiful, she looks like you. She reminds me of my daughter” he says in a soft voice.

Both sisters look at each other in confusion, and look back at Joseph. 

He hands her to one of Jacob’s soldiers, and puts her in a milk crate nearby. 

“I know you’re in pain. The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh. But you’re not the only one to be tested” Joseph says to them, but mainly to Paige. 

“Did you know I had a wife?” he tells them, showing the tattoo of his wife.

They look at his arm. “So beautiful, isn’t she?. We were pregnant with our first child, and we were just babies ourselves, and I was terrified. Becoming a father, mostly about money”. 

Paige and Kate look at each other in confusion, and back at Joseph.

“She wasn’t worried, she had faith that things were going to work out. She always had faith, and then one day. She was going to visit a friend. There was an accident, and”

Paige and Kate look on with mixed emotions at him. 

“The Lord taketh”, he continues.

“They rushed me to the hospital and put me in a room with this little pink bundle stuffed with tubes, and they said I had to be strong because my little girl was going to live. God was looking out for our daughter”

Paige looks at him in disbelief. She looks over at Kate who looks unsettled, and unnerved.

“And they left me alone in a room with her. I just stared at my daughter. So helpless. So innocent, and all she had in the world was me. A nobody from nowhere-” 

Paige cuts him off, softly saying “A nobody? You’re her father!”.

Joseph continues “With nothing, and in that moment I knew that God was testing me”

Kate rolls her eyes in annoyance, looking down “God doesn’t care!” she thinks to herself.

“He was laying out a path before me and all I had to do was choose. So I put my hand on my little girl's head, and I leaned in and I could smell. And we prayed together, prayed for wisdom. Prayed for strength then I knew. I heard God’s plan for me, and I took my fingers and I put them on that little plastic tube that was taped to her angelic face, and”

Paige already knew where he was going with this, and she's feels a tightness in her gut. 

“I pinched it shut” he says.

“You did what?!?” Paige whispers loudly, her eyes widened. 

Kate looks at him in shock, her jaw dropped open. 

Joseph looks down at the ground for a moment before continuing.

“And after a little while her legs began to kick and kick, and then nothing. Stillness. Release”

Paige looks over at her daughter who is still in the milk crate, and cuts Joseph off yet again.

“You killed you daughter!!” 

“The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh. Pain. Sacrifice”

He leans in closer to their cage. 

“These are all part of his test. Only have to prove that we can serve God, no matter what he asks”. 

They turn to each other in disbelief, shock and anger.

“Can you believe that?!?” Paige whispers very softly to her sister.

Kate gives her a wide eyed look, and shakes her head. Looks around the cage, and she whispers to her “Now, I know how Lucifer felt, when we shoved his ass back in the cage”

Paige gives her a stern "seriously" look, then an idea comes to mind. She looks over at the other 3 Seed siblings.

John looks unbothered, typical of him, Jacob has some sadness in his eyes, maybe it's hard to tell, but Faith on the other hand, she looks completely horrified.

She looks like she has never heard that story come from Joseph before.

Kate even sees the expression on her face, the fear in her eyes.

He goes over to the carriage, and takes Cristina out, holding her again.

“You better not hurt her, you will fucking pay for it if you do. I will hunt you down and God won’t be able to save your ass” Paige threatens him. 

Joseph looks down at the infant in his arms, as if he didn’t hear her threaten him.

He turns around, and approaches Faith, he says something to her but they couldn’t hear what. 

She has the look of guilt written all over her face, looking like she doesn’t want to do what Joseph just told her to do. 

She approaches the cage, Paige looks at her, and back at Joseph.

“Wait!” she yells out. They all look at her. 

“You said, God wanted you to kill your daughter as a test?. To choose a path?”

Joseph approaches the cage again, as well as Jacob and John. 

All 4 siblings standing in front of her and Kate, on the opposite side of the cage.

“Yes” Joseph says softly.

She sighs, “Well I hate to break it to you, but God doesn’t care. He doesn’t care about you, me, her *points to Kate* and he certainly doesn’t care about your Project”.

All 8 eyes staring right through her, piercing into her. 

She looks at all 4 of them, “Yeah that’s right, God, Chuck he doesn’t give a fuck about any of us. You see we’re all just a part of his story. We’re just a book, and he ends it the way he chooses. We're all just hamsters in a wheel."

John and Joseph look at her with pity, Jacob has a “huh that makes sense” look on his face, and Faith looks like she is starting to have a change of heart, like she believes her. 

“And since we’re confessing, and being honest, I would like to say this”.

Paige takes a few steps closer to the cage bars, and says. 

“Lucifer is a lot nicer than God. Yeah that’s right the Devil, the Fallen Angel, is a lot nicer than him, and yes because unlike you Joseph, we’ve actually MET God, Lucifer, Gabriel, and Raphael”

Kate jumps in, and says “Castiel, Michael, 70% of the angels in Heaven, a fair share of demons, vampires and God's oldest creations the Leviathan"

They turn to Kate as she says this, and back to Paige.

“So believe us or not, we don’t care. We know more about this God crap than you and pretty much anyone who believes it in” Paige says, giving them all a wake up call.

“Don’t forget, he’s still holding your daughter” John whispers to her. She gives him a death stare, she gives all of them a death stare. 

“Faith, do it” Joseph whispers to her, and he walks away along with John and Jacob, still holding Cristina. 

Faith still has an unsure look on her face.

“You don’t have to do this Rachel” Paige tells her, “You’re better than this, I know Joseph drugged and manipulated you. You don’t have to do this. We can help you” she pleads, her voice going hoarse. 

She looks down at the ground, then up at her before muttering “I’m sorry” with tears streaming down her cheeks. 

She then blows bliss into both Paige and Kate’s faces. Sending both sisters into separate hallucinates.

Paige wakes up in hallucination outside of her childhood home in Phoenix, Arizona.

She turns around, and sees her childhood home. 

“What the fuck!?!” she says to herself, looking around.

She walks up the driveway, and goes inside. 

The house is different on the inside than it is on the outside.

It's nice and sunny outside, but dark and gloomy on the inside. She hears footsteps coming from upstairs, and goes up to the next floor.

She recognizes this scenery, it's just like the one from her nightmares, this is from the night her dad was killed. When she gets to the top step, she gets startled by her dad walking by, but he doesn’t see her.

“Dad!?” she calls out, no response. 

She follows him down the hallway, towards a room, standing next to him, just to make sure if he can see her or not. He was checking on her the night he died, she hears footsteps coming from the next room.

She walks towards it, and pushes the door slightly open. 

She looks back at her dad who is walking towards her, and has a clear view of her but he still doesn’t see her. 

She goes into the room and sees the demon that killed her dad on the ceiling looking down at Kate, but it doesn’t see Paige either.

Joel, her dad walks into the room, and she tries to warn him.

“Dad!! Dad!! Grab Kate and get the fuck out!!!. Dad!!!” her voice echoes throughout the house. He still doesn’t see, or hear her. She’s a ghost to him.

She watches her dad’s final moments before he is taken away from her, Kate and their mom.

Trying to hold back her tears, she says to him. "Mom was never the same after this” she takes a few steps closer to him. “She was completely broken, she lost custody of us. We lived with your brother, she took off, and hunted down the demon that killed you, and I did the same once I turned 18. I left Kate behind, and I went looking for mom, and for that demon” 

Paige starts to break down, tears streaming down her face, her voice starts to break and weaken. She looks down at her infant sister, and looks back at her dad. 

“The man she loved was taken from her, the father to her daughters was taken from her. Whenever mom wasn’t around I had to be not just a sister to Kate. But I had to be a mother. I had to be a father. I was just a kid, and that wasn’t fair”. She gets choked up, and tries to force her words out, no matter how much they hurt her, whether or not he can hear, or see her.

“The man you worked with in the Army, the man who you called your best friend, the man who served by your side in the Gulf War. My supposed Godfather Jacob Seed, he tortured me. His brother John manipulated Kate and he tortured me. He got possessed by a demon and he tortured her. His brother Joseph tried to have mom killed. I don’t know what you did that caused all of this to happen but, I forgive you, I forgive you. I know, I’m probably supposed to hate you but, this is the closest I’ll ever get to seeing you again. I just want you to see me, to hear me. To understand what we went through without you. The man who tried to have mom killed, he has your granddaughter. My daughter”. Joel is still looking down at Kate, she moves to stand on the opposite side of the crib, facing her dad. 

“If it weren’t for pictures, Kate wouldn’t know what you looked like. She didn’t get the chance to get to know you. I know how broken she is because she never got to know her own father. She’ll never get that. I know it kills her everyday”

Paige notices he’s not moving, she looks down at infant Kate, and she’s not moving either, she looks up, and the demon isn’t moving either. Time freezes, stands still.

A faint humming coming from behind her dad, and she sees Jacob. “Only you can make this world seem right. Only you can make the darkness right” he sings as he circles her, the crib and her dad. “Only you, and you alone” he continued. He chuckles, standing next to her, looking at her dad for a brief moment, and says “See, I told you he was weak. He couldn’t protect his family. He couldn’t protect his kids. Not only did he fail as a man but he failed as a father”.

She gives him a death glare “Really? Is this coming from his so-called best friend?” she says to him, with raised eyebrows. He smirks at her, with his head tilted to the right.

“And did you know you were supposed to be my Godfather?!?”.

He lets out an annoyed huff, and says “I’ll be outside waiting for you” with that being said he leaves the room. Leaving Paige with her hallucinogenic version of her father, and infant sister. 

The whole bliss trip continues, she witnesses what happened that night between her dad and the demon, before the house went up in flames, and her childhood was ruined. Everything goes by fast, she turns away when her dad gets killed. She couldn’t save him from the demon, she would go right through them.

The whole house goes up in flames, with her still inside. The flames lit at her feet, and she gets eaten up by the flames, making her scream in pain.

Paige wakes up in a cage, screaming her lungs out. 

Kate, and Mandy wake up as she screams her lungs out.

All three of them in the same cage. They look at each other. She looks down at her feet and arms.

“You okay?!?” Kate asks Paige.

She looks at her in confusion, “Yeah, I’m fine” she answers panting.

They looked around, and there were no peggies around the Centre, it was completely empty. Except for the cages with the Judges. 

In the next cage over to their left Kenny, Mark and Nate up from their bliss hallucination.

“Kenny!! Nate, Mark!!” Paige says, relieved to see them.

“Paige?! Oh god I’m glad to see you” Kenny says, reaching for her through the cage bars.

“Guys!?” Adrian says from the cage to their right.

“Adrian, Marty, Cody holy shit” Kate sighs, out of relief.

They all have a moment, and are reunited with each other.

Paige turns to Cody, and asks “What happened when I was gone?”.

“John, he somehow got a hold of a phone, and he called his men. The next thing we knew fucking Cultist trucks were pulling up to the house. They got Adrian, Marty and I”.

“And we locked ourselves in your bedroom” Nate says. 

They all look forward, and they see Faith approaching the cages.

She unlocks Paige’s cage first, “What are you doing?” Kate asks.

“I-I finally came to my senses. I want to help you” she says, unlocking the guy's cage next.

They all leave their cages. “I believe you” she says to Paige.

“After hearing what Joseph said, I finally realized what I got myself into. I don’t want to do this anymore” she says, her voice cracking.

“Where’s my daughter?” Paige asks.

“She’s inside” she says, “Joseph left to his compound” she adds.

“How can we trust you?” Mandy asks. 

“Joseph fears that he’s wrong about God’s plan with him. After what you said he started to doubt himself” Faith says, “Even John started to have doubt, and for Jacob he’s not really religious but he does feel that you’re right”.

Paige nods her head, “Okay, so now what?”.

“John went back to his ranch, and Jacob is inside the Centre” she says. 

“So what, you're like a traitor to the Project?” Kenny asks.

She nods her head “Yes, after what she said about God and being a part of his story, and that he doesn’t care about any of us. It made me question my beliefs and my purpose in the Project”.

There was a few seconds of silence between all 10 of them.

“Okay, so what do we do?” Kate asks. 

Paige says while looking at the ground with her hands on her hips “You go take care of John, kill him if you must. Mom. You, Faith, and others go to the house, and I’ll take care of Jacob”

Kenny interjects, saying to her “I’m going with you”.

She looks at him, her eyebrows cocked. “I can go by myself” she says.

“Yeah I know, but I won’t let you. I lost you before I ain’t losing you again. She’s my daughter too” he tells her. 

She lets out a huffed breath and says “Okay fine. But we’re doing it my way”.

He nods his head, and they go their separate ways. 

“Mom, be careful, and let me know when you get home!” Paige calls out.

She looks back, and nods her head, walking towards one of the Cults trucks.

Kenny and Paige steal some guns from one of the bins on the property, and some ammo.

They go inside the building, and it's dark, the lighting is very dim, kinda like being in a horror movie. “Stay close” she whispers to Kenny. They walk towards the stairs going up, and a red light goes off. “Keep going” Kenny says to her. They continue up the stairs, walking into the hallway, it's also lit with a dimmed red light.

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Kate steals a truck, and tries to radio the Whitetails

“Eli, Tammy, Wheaty are you there??” she asks into the radio.

She waits for a few moments before radioing them again. 

“Whitetails are you there??” she asks again.

The other end of the radio cracks, and there’s a muffled staticy voice.

“Eli you there??” she asks again.

“Kate?? Is that you?” the sound of Wheaty’s voice asks.

“Wheaty?!? Yeah it's me” she replies. 

“Are you okay?!?, how did everything go?!?” he asks.

“Not good, Paige and I got into a car wreck caused by the Cult, we were locked in cages by Jacob, and we put on a bliss trip. I have no idea how long we were in there for”

“You got out??” he asks.

“Yeah, and believe or not but Faith, she has a change of heart, but I don’t buy it and neither does Paige” she tells him.

“Where are you now?” Eli’s voice comes through the radio.

“I’m on my way to you guys, and then I’m gonna go kill John. I’ll tell you guys more when I get there” she says. 

She starts the truck, and drives 15 minutes to the Wolf’s Den, she goes up the mountain, and runs to the open bunker door.

They hear her footsteps coming down, and look towards the doorway.

“Kate!!” a relieved Wheaty says, he hugs her the second he sees her. She hugs him back, and releases him.

“What happened?!?!” Tammy asks, with worry in her voice. 

“After Paige and I left, we were driving through an intersection, and next. Boom!. We get hit by a Cult truck, and we go tumbling through a field. That was the last thing I remember from that, and then I woke up in a cage at St. Francis with Paige next to me. Joseph was there and so were the other 3. Joseph was telling Paige and I, mainly Paige he didn't really look at me. That he was married, and how God told him to kill his infant daughter”. 

She stammers over her words, “It was a complete mind fuck, and we went on a bliss trip. I don’t know what was Paige's, but mine was John forcing me to atone, and confess my sins”.

Eli stands next to her, and asks “So where's Paige, and the others?!"

“My mom took the others and Faith--” she gets cut off by Tammy. “Faith!?!?”. 

“She apparently had a change of heart, after my sister lectured all 4 of them about God, and shit. I don’t remember much from that but Faith looked like she didn’t want anything to do with the Cult. I want to believe her, but I don’t believe her. I just don’t want my mom, or the others to let their guard down with her there.” she explains.

“So what about Paige? Is she there too?” Eli asks.

“Her and Kenny went to get Cristina. Joseph let Jacob take her for whatever reason. So they went to go kill him” she says.

“And you’re gonna go kill John?” Wheaty asks.

She nods, and says anger building up “Yeah, I…want to rip…his fucking..head..off”

“Need any weapons?” Tammy asks.

She nods her head, “Yeah”.

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Ooh seems fun!!

I'll go in the same order as you!!!

Scott!

Win: I want him to go apeshit too, to completely lash out at everyone, to carve a bloody path through world for being so cruel and letting someone as wonderful as his husband die

Lose: I don't want it to happen, but if it had to, being killed by all alone at the black altar, a place where in some happier time, he might have married Jimmy with all his friends around them. But it isn't that, and he dies all alone, killed by the people he once considered friends

Grian!

Win: Laughing maniacally as he stands over the remains of his trap that finally worked, covered in ash and smoke and blood, reliving the same joy he did as when his tnt trap killed those 3

Lose: Something to do with Scar. Either protecting him, because God damn it after all this time, he started to care for this guy. And if he can't win, he can count on Scar to carry on the chaos for him. Or he was killed by Scar, in an ironic twist of fate and maybe revenge. In the end, Scar turned out to be the person everyone thought he was

Scar!

Win: Giving in to his bloodlust, with nobody to hold him back anymore. What else does he have to lose anymore. All he sees is red, so what's a little more?

Lose: His luck finally ran out. He couldn't keep getting away with such perilous stunts and it finally caught up to him. Or maybe Grian's traps worked too well, and he was part of the crossfire. Or another stupid prank that maybe was intentional all along

Tango!!

Win: He lied, tricked and backstabbed his way to the top. And it worked! Somehow, nobody caught on soon enough. Shame for them

Lose: Someone figured him out, and well. With tensions so high on the server, an unreliable traitor wouldn't be too much of a loss

Impulse!!

Win: Everyone loves him, and his tongue is like silver, so when people started accidentally dying, they were all too quick to suspect each other over him. With tension so high, it was easy for him, with all he had, to destroy the server from inside out

Lose: A misunderstanding, really. They saw him with one of his many sides and thought he betrayed them! And well he kinda did, but killing him was too far, was it not?

Bdubs!!

Win: Like Scott, it was an act of revenge. That was someone important, someone he couldn't save. So he could at least make sure everyone felt the same regret and loss he did.

Lose: I don't actually have many ideas for this. But maybe he could get a coffin right next to Cleo's :]

Ren!!

Win: The red winter prevailed. The land is now surrounded by the cold, and Martyn would have been proud if he were still here, he knows it. He's the king of it all now. He did it. It's awfully lonely, though.

Lose: The king was executed. Too many people were out for his head, too much rage and it was too much. Or maybe he was betrayed by one of his subjects. Or worst of all, all he had with Martyn turned out to be a lie. But maybe it's not too bad, if he had to die, via his right hand man wouldn't be too bad.

Martyn!!!

Win: His king had fallen, via the hands of some lowly rebel or traitor or maybe his own. But it doesn't matter now. Because he is the new red king now, and he made sure to live up to it.

Lose: He died for his king. Of course he did, he couldn't see it being any other way. His king would have done the same for him, so it's better for the sake of the kingdom for him to die over Ren.

Etho!

Win: They should have known better than to burn down his tree. When he said he no longer had a soft spot for anyone, he truly, really meant it.

Lose: again not much to say here, but being burned like his tree would be ironic

BigB

Win: In the end, not much had to be done. The whole server tore itself apart and he just stood there and watched it happen. It was easy.

Lose: Him trying to save his cookie would be hella funny no cap

Joel!!!

Win: All he truly wanted was for something, one little thing to burn alone like he did. But he won't mind if that something is the server and every single inhabitant there. He was never on any of their sides anyways

Lose: He tried to push his luck, but sadly, he was nobody's friend so nobody had any qualms killing him

Many of my points where just echoing yours, sorry about that!

EDIT: FUCK SHIT PISS I FORGOT TO SAY WHYYYY

The only one I truly want to win is Scott because of childhood bias and also it's pride month so gay rights but only for him

But I wouldn't mind if BigB won because it'd be funny or if Grian won because he deserves to go apeshit

Alright, with the first demised, let's start a game I like to call "Life or Death" (feel free to suggest a cooler name)

You can either @ someone or join in the chain. Below is a list of people who made it to week 8 and you need to say why you want them to win AND how you would like to see them die.

Let's create some cool theories, headcannons and angst :3

I'll start:

The rebels:

Scott

Win: I want to see Scott go absolutely feral. The widow takes all the oppoturnities to avenge his husband and still manages to come out on top to claim the title of survivor. The win for the gays!

Loss: I want Martyn to be the one to kill Scott. They were THE chaos duo, allies since day one and even made a potion monopoly together. The angst here is big. Especially considering that indirectly it would be Jimmy's fault, as he was the one to break this friendship.

Grian

Win: Grian deserves to win just for all the traps he tried to set up and failed /j The person who indebted themselves and died when it was too late and couldn't get out, the person with the highest kill count and the most activated tnt stats does deserve to win for all that effort + keeping Scar alive.

Loss: Being killed by Scar. Like just this one time, Scar actually wants to kill/has to kill and kills his old buddy. Or dying to Scott or Martyn, so we know who was the best green out of the red/green duos /j Dying to a fellow blue sword is the real angst :)

Scar

Win: Okay but imagine Scar, the person who everyone expected to die first. The one who was the first yellow AND red would be the last one alive. Also I stand by the headcannon Scar has intimidating aura, which is why he survives his encounters.

Loss: The obvious angsty one is being killed by Grian or his trap. But I do vibe with the idea of Scar being killed by Bdubs, who angrily lays his body in the coffins infront of the crastle >:)

Or Scar being killed by Tango. But like seriously, Tango is probably the only person outside of the rebels, who Scar genuinely cares for. And Tango could get revenge for week 6, where Scar nearly blew Tango up.

The crastle:

Tango

Win: His double, triple, quadruple agent saga was the funniest arc I've seen and I believe the wandering traitor would deserve to win, especially if him winning that Bdubs, who was the reason he died in the first place, would die. Even more justice for our boy. It would also prove the theory that being with everyone at once IS the key to victory.

Loss: Being killed by Scar. For the reasons I stated before. Or murdered by Bdubs again. Most angst potentional would be dying to impulse OR Etho, considering they had their day 1 alliance and the wool castle arrangement :) Friendship is dead.

Impulse

Win: Impulse "Be friends with everyone" strategy will be proven superior. With an army of villigers, not only has supplies for himself, but armed others for war, so they would feel confident fighting each other. He watched his allies get slaughtered and did nothing to stop it :)

Loss: Traitors get executed :) Dying to anyone from the red army for obviois reasons. Also to Tango (Revenge for his emerald execution) or Etho, again for the wool castle allignement angst.

Bdubs

Win: The guy who was being made fun of for building a small castle that looks like a toilet and has holes in it proves to be the superior builder as he builds an unbreakable fortress. He wins this one for Cleo.

Loss: Dying to Scar so Scar be like "Good thing he bought those coffins." Or to Tango or Impulse, betrayed by the only people he had left. By the people Cleo warned him about and he told her it would be fine :)

The red army

Ren

Win: The red king proves his rp is very cool and poggers and not cringe and lame like his enemies proclaim! He will lead his army and raise to the top, becoming an eternal emperor. Why be a dog, when you can be a god?

Loss: Lissen, I know it's been said already, but Ren getting betrayed by Martyn 👀 I would love to see that. Or even Etho, who would ditch them for his wool castle buddies, oh boy.

Martyn

Win: The right-hand man becomes the ruler. The king is dead, long live the king. From a simple peasant boy bringing chaos and phantoms wherever he goes, to the most powerful man on the server. Character progression is very cool :)

Loss: Dying as he protects his king from certain death. Or being killed by Scott. OG chaotic duo, I am still not over you being enemies.

Etho

Win: They burned down his tree and kicked off his villain arc. He decided to confirm the rumours about him being the hidden anime protagonist and by the power of missiles and alliances rose to the top as the lone wolf of the group.

Loss: Betrayal from the OG village folk. They build not one, but two homes together and even after all their promises and meeting, they chose to murder him. Forever abandoned :(

BigB

Win: I really like the meme that's going around of "BigB wins by doing nothing." He would win by being in the shadows and staying loyal and honestly, what an icon.

Loss: Dying to either Grian or Martyn for the "Blue sword alliance." Less sadser death: BigB tragically dies saving his cookie for the last time 07

The wildcard:

Joel

Win: Joel saying "I can choose who I will betray." manifesting again, as people fall once again for his empty promises and he watches them all crash and burn. Once again proving that chosing sides is pointless (another Ranboo kinnie /j) and choosing people is overrated. Direct contrast to BigB's strategy. Chaotic arsonist my beloved <3

Loss: I have 2 ways for this one. First is dying to any of the people he betrayed after actually allying with a faction. The second one is dying to Scott specificaly as he tries to assasinate him once again and fails for the second time xD

@pastelicious-nova You don't have to do this kiki, but I would love to hear your thoughs <3

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The Many Deaths of the Joker

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There have been many stories to kill off the Clown Prince of Crime, but Batman's greatest enemy isn't so easy to get rid of for good.

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In fictional worlds where heroes and villains who can shrug off bullets like they were nothing, there exists “plot armor” for the more ordinary folks. Plot armor is the reason why the Punisher can mosey through a room with an uzi in each hand and somehow kill every single enemy while somehow never getting shot in any vital area. It’s why Stormtroopers have the worst aim and why the red-shirted Enterprise dudes have all the bad luck.

I’m having a hard time coming up with someone with stronger plot armor in comic books than the Joker. Hell, even Frank Castle died at least twice in continuity. The Joker should be dead a million times over, not just due to his injuries, but because with all the lives he’s taken, surely somebody would have murdered him by now. But again, not only does he take vicious beatings, if he isn’t apprehended at the end of a story, he usually falls off a cliff or is at the heart of an explosion or gets hit by a truck.

Then he’s back the next time, no worse for the wear.

While the comics won’t ever truly get rid of him, there are many continuities that have done away with Mr. J. Yet even then, the Joker is never really gone. He tends to haunt and taunt Batman in one way or another via his violent legacy. For someone with such an ill-defined identity, he sure is resilient.

So here's a look at all the times the Joker has died (or apparently died) in comics and on the screen.

Main Comics Continuity

Joker dying in main comics canon is an iffy subject. There have been times when he's been clinically dead, only to be brought back minutes later. Like the time Nightwing beat him within an inch of his life. He's even taken a couple of dips in the Lazarus Pit.

read more: Every DC Comics and Batman Easter Egg in the Joker Movie

But here, let's focus on Joker's second comics appearance. In Detective Comics #64, Joker decides to turn himself in and confess to every one of his crimes. The confused judge sentences him to death. Joker is put in the electric chair and acts like he's got stuff to do so wrap it up, B! Minutes after his death, his goons sneak in, find his body, and inject it with some special kind of serum that awakens the very recently deceased.

Joker pops back up and continues his life of crime. His reasoning? They can't charge him for the stuff he already did! That's double jeopardy!

Tim Burton's Batman

Jack Nicholson’s Joker completely ate it at the end of Tim Burton’s Batman. He fell from a great height while dragged down by a gargoyle. We saw the body. Dude was absolutely dead.

And he stayed that way! After that first movie, the most mention Joker got in that universe was a brief allusion in Batman Forever when Batman told Robin that revenge leads to emptiness.

We almost got a bit more of him, though! Before Batman and Robin ruined the concept of fun and killed that franchise, Joel Schumacher was originally going to do a fifth movie in that universe. Batman Triumphant would have revolved around Scarecrow and Harley Quinn as the new villains. Scarecrow means fear gas and that would have meant Batman getting a hallucination sequence.

What would Batman fear the most? Probably the skin-dyed dirtbag that killed his parents. And so, had the movie existed, we would have had a scene of Jack Nicholson's Joker confronting Batman during a psychological breakdown.

The movie would have been a dumpster fire, but...man, part of me is bummed we never got it.

Similarly, an unused Superman vs. Batman script from the early '00s would have included a plot point where Lex Luthor cloned the Joker to bring him back as part of a scheme to traumatize Bruce Wayne out of retirement and trick him into fighting Superman. Probably the most sensible reason to connect Lex and Joker.

Batman for the NES

Sunsoft made Batman: The Video Game for NES and the story was the general plot of the movie, only with lots and lots of ninjas and robots added because Batman needs something to fight. The ending is roughly the same, though Batman is a bit more cold-blooded. He beats the Joker down, tells him, “You killed my parents,” and then tosses him to his doom. We see Joker’s lifeless corpse and roll credits.

read more: Joker Movie Review

Then a year later, they released Batman: Return of the Joker. The Joker returns with some scheme involving stealing explosive metals and...he’s back. He’s alive again. Somehow. Neither the game nor the manual have any explanation. Just go with it.

Upon further review, both the Genesis and arcade adaptations of the movie make it vague whether or not falling from the top of a cathedral is enough to take out the Joker, so maybe Jack Nicholson's Joker is more resilient than anyone ever realized.

The Dark Knight Strikes Again

Dark Knight Returns features one of the most chilling incarnations of the Joker, who comes out of a catatonic state the moment he finds out Batman is back on the streets. Joker’s killing spree goes farther than the 1980s comic-reading public was used to and Batman ALMOST has it in him to kill the Joker for good. Since killing Joker is neither a horseshoe nor a hand grenade, Joker finishes the job by snapping his own neck and making it look like Batman’s finally gone over the line, thereby making him a prime target of the authorities.

Enduring one massive beating and a fake death (which people regard as “totally beat Superman in a fight” for some reason) later, Batman is fine.

Many years later, Frank Miller made his sequel Dark Knight Strikes Again, otherwise known as, “that mess.” In a story that focuses on Lex Luthor and Brainiac while including lots of DC heroes and Hal Jordan’s dinosaur space penis, the Joker appears a couple of times as a looming threat. He kills the Creeper, Guardian, and even Martian Manhunter while bringing up the mystery of who he could possibly be.

read more: The Secrets of the Joker Movie

Joker II shows up at the end of the comic as a kind of final boss showdown. He is, in fact, Dick Grayson, whose only mention in the original story was not being on speaking terms with Bruce. As the story goes, Batman fired him for being an incompetent whiner once upon a time and rather than celebrate being free of the lunatic that is Miller Batman, Dick instead went a bit mad and allowed Luthor and Brainiac to give him shape-shifting/quick-healing powers.

Even though he’s capable of surviving decapitations and the like, Joker II is eventually done in by getting knocked into some lava. Can’t heal if there’s nothing left of you.

Justice League: The Nail

Back in the late-90s, Alan Davis and Mark Farmer put together a three-issue Elseworlds story called The Nail. This “what if” tale shows how the DC Universe would have formed had Superman’s rocket not been discovered by the Kents. Without Superman as a symbol, metahumans aren’t exactly looked upon with love and astonishment. It’s more of an X-Men deal where the public’s mood is, “Thanks for saving the world...I guess.”

As part of the comic’s big villain conspiracy (and I won’t spoil who’s behind everything), the Joker is armed with a pair of gauntlets made from Kryptonian tech. They make him virtually unstoppable and he proceeds to liberate Arkham Asylum and then make the Bat-villains fight each other to the death for his amusement. Batman, Robin, and Batgirl appear and Alan Davis finally answers the question, “What would it take for Batman to murder the Joker?”

The answer: have the Joker use his telekinetic gauntlets to slowly and painfully tear Robin and Batgirl to pieces while forcing Batman to watch. Jesus. Yeah. That’ll do it.

With some assistance from Catwoman, Batman’s able to free himself, damage the gauntlets and snap Joker’s neck. While the public display and selective context makes the Justice League look bad, nobody takes the incident harder than Batman himself. Both the graphic deaths of his sidekicks and the realization that he murdered a man sends him to the brink of sanity. It’s the comfort of Catwoman, who becomes Batwoman, that keeps him from falling apart.

read more: The Actors Who Have Played the Joker

Regardless, once the story is over, Batman gives himself up to the police. He’s acquitted of murder charges, but chooses to leave the Justice League.

Several years later, we get Another Nail, which basically exists to give upbeat closure to a story that had a bunch of downers. Batman continues to fight crime in Gotham, but he starts hearing the Joker’s laughter. Due to the convoluted plot of the miniseries, things are screwy with the afterlife and the Joker is able to escape Hell.

Threatening to kill Batwoman, Joker – who has Carnage-like powers – fights Batman. Batman attempts to sacrifice himself by tackling Joker back to Hell, but the spririts of Robin and Batgirl rescue him. Batman finally decides to get on with his life and rejoin the Justice League.

Kingdom Come

The Joker’s death in Kingdom Come is a major turning point for society. After Joker murders Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, and a lot of other people at the Daily Planet, he’s apprehended by the police. We’ll never know how Superman would have instinctively dealt with his loss since new superhero hotness and Cable pastiche Magog stops by to vaporize the handcuffed Joker.

Magog is put on trial, everyone and their mother is pretty okay with the Joker being murdered in any way, and Superman leaves in a huff. This causes a new dawn of “superheroism” where it’s less about heroism and more about people in cool costumes getting into fights with no care for anything but themselves. You know, kind of like a Zack Snyder movie.

While the Joker doesn’t come back from the dead, he does inspire one troublemaker to become the new Joker’s Daughter (otherwise known as Harlequin). Although we never get much on her, as she’s mostly a recurring background character, she represents the chaotic world where the mighty can do what they want while the weak are left deal with the consequences.

read more: How Joaquin Phoenix Became the Joker

It does remind me that one of the most clever moments in the whole comic is when Batman betrays Lex Luthor and admits to only joining up with him in the first place in order to see what Shazam’s deal was. As he puts it, Shazam is a wild card and if there’s anything Batman hates, it’s a wild card.

Love that.

Batman Beyond

Batman: The Animated Series is arguably better than sliced bread and its dark future Batman Beyond wasn’t bad either. Despite taking place years in the future, the writers were stingy on the details of what became of a lot of the old guard. While we got to see what became of Mr. Freeze and Bane, bigger deal characters like Robin and Joker were glazed over.

At most, during the show’s run, we saw that the Joker was replaced with an ever-changing circus-themed gang called the Jokerz. That was cool and all and fits into the nature of this list, but Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker went even further.

read more: The Best Episodes of Batman Beyond

In the dying days of the Animated Series era, the Joker kidnapped and tortured Tim Drake Robin. He warped the poor boy, made him squeal about Batman’s secret identity, and then transformed him into a giggling child version of the Joker. Depending on which version you watch, Tim would get his revenge by either shooting Joker in the chest or electrocuting him to death.

In the Beyond era, the Joker appears yet again, making the futuristic Batman Terry McGuiness question the many ways that’s possible. In the end, the Joker turns out to be Tim Drake, unknowingly taken over by a secret implant that transforms him into having the Joker’s DNA and personality. Terry is able to put an end to this Joker by frying the implant with an electric joy buzzer.

Batman: Digital Justice

Speaking of the future, there’s this Elseworlds taking place towards the end of the 21st century. While the Joker presumably died of old age, considering Batman retired, he lives on in the form of a sentient computer virus and...

For God's sake, look at that thing. Actually, better idea, let’s not. Just...next entry.

Batman: Red Rain

Throughout the '90s, Doug Moench and Kelley Jones did a trilogy of Elseworlds stories based on the very simple high concept of Batman being a literal "bat man." In the story Red Rain, Batman gets bitten by a vampire and fights Dracula. It’s pretty rad. Batman wins and Dracula’s dead for good.

A couple of years later, they did a sequel called Bloodstorm, which is based on the very human Joker leading Dracula’s horde for the sake of taking over the criminal underworld. Vampire Batman teams up with Selina Kyle, who also goes literal by being a werecat. Selena’s love is the only thing keeping Batman from going all-you-can-eat-buffet, so once Joker kills her with a crossbow, Batman has nothing left to keep him in check. Although part of him tries to fight it, he still powers through multiple crosses and holy water to snap Joker’s neck and feed on his blood.

Being that Batman is the smartest dude, he knows to shove a stake through Joker’s heart just in case...because Vampire Joker is the last thing we need.

It’s moot, since not only has Batman killed his rival, but he’s given into his vampire instincts. He has his buds Alfred and Commissioner Gordon stake him to prevent any further benders.

read more: Creating a New Joker Origin Story

Those two, unfortunately, never got around to removing his head, so despite being rendered immobile, Batman is still kicking. A few months later, Alfred removes the stake because Alfred is dumb as hell in this world. Not only does Batman have a taste for blood while being driven insane from months of his body rotting, but it’s implied a few times that ingesting Joker’s specific blood makes him even more out-of-control.

Yeah, things do NOT end well for any named character in that final chapter.

Batman 666

During Grant Morrison’s lengthy run on Batman’s comics, he wrote a one-off story in Batman #666 that depicts Damian Wayne as a more ruthless Batman in the future who may or may not have sold his soul to the actual devil. There are two alternate follow-ups to this story. One of which has Damian adopt and raise Terry McGinnis, leading to a take on the Batman Beyond era.

Then there’s a path where everything goes wrong. The Joker has died and while we don’t know the details, we do know that the madman had his own failsafe. In his death, he releases a virus that transforms its victims into Joker-like monsters, like a clown version of 28 Days Later.

Damian Batman finds a baby who appears to be immune to the virus, but his attempts to use the child to create a cure leads to disaster when he discovers that the baby is merely a carrier. Overwhelmed by infected clown people, Damian watches in horror as Gotham is nuked to contain the outbreak.

I think I like the first future better.

The Arkham Games

In the Rocksteady Arkham trilogy, Joker suffers from injecting himself with Titan, an upgraded version of the Venom drug that gives Bane his strength. In the aftermath, he’s dying, so he figures he’ll inject his own poisoned blood into Batman’s veins to push Batman into finding a cure. I’m guessing Joker saw that episode of South Park where Cartman had AIDS and had a moment of inspiration.

Though Batman cures himself, Joker shivs him. Either because he thinks Batman’s going to leave him to die or because shivving seemed like a good idea at the moment. That makes Batman drop the antidote and Joker succumbs to illness and dies, laughing at Batman’s claim that he was totally about to give him the antidote after all.

Then in Arkham Knight, we discover that having Joker blood in your system plus breathing in Scarecrow’s fear toxin transforms you into superhero Fight Club. Joker appears in visions while Batman (and some other soon-to-be-dead saps who also have Joker blood) gradually becomes Joker-like in behavior and appearance.

Batman ultimately wins out by turning the two infections against each other and confronting Joker with his own fear: being dead and forgotten. Batman goes back to normal and gets back to his mission of handing Scarecrow a knuckle sandwich.

Gotham

Batman prequel Gotham features Jerome Valeska, as played by Cameron Monaghan. Jerome is what I’d call the How I Met Your Mother of Jokers. He’s the Joker, but not really. The narrative plays up that he's either the actual Joker, he'll somehow create the Joker, or he's just thematically the Joker.

For all intents and purposes, he’s the Joker. Until he isn't. And then it's revealed that actually his twin brother is the Joker. Don't ask. Gotham is bonkers.

The charismatic psychopath and showman is killed off early in the second season during an attempt on the life of the adolescent Bruce Wayne. He gets stabbed in the neck by Theo Galavan in an act of betrayal, but dies with blood covering his lips as he smiles. Various people watch footage of Jerome on TV and go into giggling fits, including two guys who laughingly murder a homeless person, then turn on each other.

read more: Joker Movie Ending Explained

With that not being enough for viewers, they then go and bring Jerome back to life via televised comic book science. He eventually dies for reals by falling off a building while cackling, but sends his brother Jeremiah a jack-in-the-box booby trap that infects him with a venom that turns his skin white, hair green, and makes him gradually go crazy. Sure enough, Jeremiah goes on to commit crimes as "Mr. J."

Coincidentally, Jerome’s father, a fortune teller, claimed that Jerome would leave behind a legacy of death and madness. Sounds about right.

Injustice: Gods Among Us

The Injustice: Gods Among Us storyline is the aftermath of the Joker growing bored of messing with Batman and moving on to Superman. Using some kryptonite-laced fear gas, Joker gets Superman to hallucinate that a pregnant Lois Lane is Doomsday. Lois’ heart is linked to a detonator that nukes Metropolis upon her thrown-into-space death.

This especially puts Superman in a bad mood to the point that he appears before the captured Joker and impales him with his fist. Over the next five years, Superman doubles down on his decision and ultimately transforms into a frustrated dictator.

read more - The Many Deaths of Injustice: Gods Among Us

Over the years, as Superman’s hold on the world becomes more frightening, Jason Bard starts up a protest group invoking the Joker’s image. Superman doesn’t take this well and fries a whole lot of them in a fit of anger. Even then, the Joker Clan grows to become an anarchist underground counter to Superman’s regime. Even though Harley Quinn has grown to despise the Joker and what he stood for, she chooses to become the leader.

Then a handful of superheroes from the regular DC Universe are brought in via portal. Inadvertently, Joker is one of them. He quickly takes over the Joker Clan and wins over the heart of Harley, undoing years of personal progress on her part. Eventually, that world’s Lex Luthor helps Harley break the spell and she not only beats the shit out of that Joker until he begs his world’s Batman to take him home, but her more loyal Joker Clan members rebranded themselves as the Harley Horde.

Injustice 2 has Joker as a playable character and the various intro dialogues come up with different options of what his deal might be. In terms of the game's canon story, he's nothing more than a fear illusion that Harley has to fight through.

The Batman Who Laughs

Then there's the most literal take on a Joker death that affects Batman. In this world, after Joker infects some kids with a Joker virus, Batman seems to have enough and snaps his neck. Then again, Batman insists that Joker died due to the chemicals in his system finally catching up with him.

read more: The Inside Story of The Batman Who Laughs

It's discovered that the Joker has a chemical curse that comes with his death. An airborne virus that infects whoever is nearest to him when he dies. That means that Batman transforms into a white-skinned, cackling maniac. Known as The Batman Who Laughs, he kills his allies, turns Damian into a Joker Jr., and goes on a worldwide killing spree that eventually sets its sights on the main DC Universe. As it turns out, the only way to defeat a Batman/Joker hybrid is to have Batman and the Joker work together.

Gavin Jasper writes for Den of Geek and appreciates that Flashpoint Batman killed the Joker a couple hours before the world exploded. That’ll get you the last laugh. Read more of his articles here and follow him on Twitter @Gavin4L

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K18: The Million Eyes of Su-Muru

I've never seen this one as an episode, mostly because I can't find the damn thing, even on YouTube.  The Wiki has a capture of the title card, but it looks terrible – I did my best to clean it up in photoshop, but the result was still so ugly that I didn't want it on my blog.  Instead of the MST3K version with the English title and the silhouettes, you guys get this one captured from a bootleg copy with the German title: Sumuru – die Tochter des Satans.

The dastardly Su-Muru has a plan!  I'm... not totally sure what that plan is.  It might involve having her agents marry the most powerful men in the world so they can run everything behind the scenes, or she might just plan to kill all the men and continue the human race by cloning.  I guess one could be a stop on the way to the other.  Her plan does not appear to involve freezing the world's oceans, so at least she's more practical than Fu Manchu.  However she gets there, the desired end result will be “a world of peace and beauty, ruled by women.”  Given that men have had thousands of years to rule the world and this place is still a fucking mess, she might actually have something there.

However, she has reckoned without smug jerk Nick West and his idiot friend Tommy Carter.  They are drawn into Su-Muru's web of deceit through a ridiculously convoluted series of events that end in West being taken to her private island near Hong Kong and blackmailed into facilitating the assassination of the lecherous Boong, President of Sino-Asia – I didn't write the movie, okay?  The assassin chickens out and escapes, leaving West to take the blame for her failure.  His only hope is that Carter can bring the military in for an all-out assault on Su-Muru's fortress of evil.  Or for one of the women to decide she'd rather fuck him before she kills him.  Or for a volcanic eruption.  How about all three? All three is good!

The tone of this movie is really weird.  Su-Muru and her followers seem to behave as if they're in a serious movie, even if some of what's going on – like their petrification guns – is ridiculous. West and Carter, on the other hand, apear to think they're in a comedy, even when they're finding a corpse in their hotel room.  Both men crack jokes that occasionally poke at the fourth wall, to the point where the Wiki claims Joel had to chastise the film for riffing itself.  It all feels like the guys aren't taking the threat to world security very seriously, and makes it very hard to be interested in their fates when they're so flippant about everything.  The Million Eyes of Su-Muru really needed to pick a genre, either spy thriller or self-aware comedy, and stick to it.

It also needed to pick a plot.  It was quite difficult to write that summary, because most of the time I had very little idea what was going on.  The movie was written by Sax Rohmer and produced by Harry Allen Towers, just like The Castle of Fu Manchu... was confusion just a feature of one or the other's work, or of both in concert?  The entire first half of the story seems completely irrelevant to what eventually turns out to be the main conflict, and a lot of it has nothing to do even with anything else in the first half.  Take the opening, for example, in which the heirs of the 'richest man in the world' are killed at their father's funeral.  What's that got to do with anything?  Nothing at all.

What about the bikini girl who gets drowned on the beach?  She must be the one Su-Muru was talking about in the previous scene, who has been blacklisted by the sisterhood for falling in love with a man. Is she the same person as Colonel Medika's murdered secretary? Neither he nor President Boong seem particularly upset about her death – Medika talks about it mostly in terms of the threat he believes it represents to Boong himself.  If either of them had been her lover, surely they'd show more grief.  Maybe she wasn't the same person... but in that case, why were we shown her murder if it's not related to what we see later?

Then we finally get something reasonably relevant, as West follows the ambulance that has kidnapped Colonel Medika.  Su-Muru's agents at the hospital try to drug and kidnap West as well, but he gets rescued off-screen and we learn almost nothing from the entire incident. There's no sense of this all figuring into somebody's master plan. It's more as if the movie has two or three false starts before it finally figures out that it's going to be about the assassination attempt on Boong.

But who, exactly, is President Boong?  Su-Muru wants him dead because he's a womanizer who goes through girls like he goes through cigarettes, never keeping a single one around long enough to let her influence him.  That actually makes more sense than most things in this movie, but we don't know anything much about Boong or his imaginary country, so his life or death don't mean anything to us.  You'd think we would at least find out what his policies are, since that's what would matter to Su-Muru, but we don’t.  I'm honestly not even sure if we're supposed to like him – I think he's supposed to be 'charmingly eccentric in a foreigny kind of way' but the way Klaus Kinski plays him teeters on the edge of 'camp gay'.

I'm also somewhat confused about whether Boong and Su-Maru are supposed to be East Asian.  Boong is played by a German actor in some kind of unflattering brown makeup, while Su-Muru is blue-eyed Shirley Eaton without even that.  I started to write something here about how 'Su-Muru' is probably not her real name anyway, but then I realized I was thinking about this way harder than the stupid movie deserves. As in Castle of Fu Manchu, the plot would have been racist regardless of the casting, so it's probably not worth the headache.

If we're gonna talk about actors and characters, we have to come eventually to our so-called hero, Nick West.  Apparently no matter what movie George Nader was in, he always played the same oily misogynist.  Roy in Robot Monster?  “You're so bossy you ought to be milked before you go home at night!”  Glenn in The Human Duplicators? “Here's one I wouldn't mind having under surveillance!”  And now here he is in The Million Eyes of Su-Muru. “I'll take twelve of each!”  Was he just typecast that way, or was he actually a smarmy asshole in real life?

While Boong is played kind of gay, George Nader actually was gay, which you'd think would be an advantage when trying to take down a female supervillain who works by seduction.  Too bad The Million Eyes of Su-Muru portrays a world in which heterosexuality is the only option.  In a movie so steeped in the male gaze you might expect there to be a few hints of lesbianism even if only for eye candy, but there's nothing.  Su-Muru monologues about how woman's only weakness is her susceptibility to falling in love with men.  Another woman claims she cannot resist 'the physical presence of a man' and apparently she means it, because despite the fact that she caught West sneaking into Su-Muru's compound, she makes out with him rather than shooting him or turning him in.  I think that's supposed to be a joke, but I'm not so certain about the bit where Su-Muru also has sex with West, and claims that as a woman she needs to be dominated.

All this implies that a woman's instinct is to bow to male authority, at least sexually, and that they are incapable of resisting the temptation to do so when it is offered.  On more than one occasion West or Carter's life is saved when a woman who hasn't seen a man in months just can't keep herself from jumping his bones before killing him.  Imagine the trouble Su-Muru could have saved herself if she'd just issued vibrators to her all-woman army! This also, of course, makes the women out to be indiscriminate, willing to sleep with any man they come across – but I'm gonna give the movie a pass on that because all the men are the same way. West, Carter, and Boong each have multiple partners over the course of the story, and all are willing to sleep with women they know are their enemies, because boobies.

I have to say, for living on an island where there are no men, Su-Muru's agents sure wear a lot of sexy miniskirts and midriff-baring blouses, and devote an awful lot of time to sultry smoking and lounging around.  Their initiation ritual requires the new recruit to be topless, and the traits that make one eligible to join include youth, beauty, and health, which are all listed before a vague reference to 'giftedness'.  Some of the women must be brilliant scientists, to create things like those petrification darts, but even they appear to have had their looks taken into consideration.  That's why I described this movie as 'steeped in the male gaze'.  Sax Rohmer did not bother to think about how women would conduct themselves as they plotted to take over the world in an environment with no men (I'm guessing there would be way more pajama pants and way less shaving), only how they could look totally hot while doing it.

I guess this movie isn't quite as bad as The Castle of Fu Manchu.  I still don't know what the characters want or what's going on, really, but I'm not actually angry at it for wasting my time... maybe that's just because my standards are getting lower. The Castle of Fu Manchu kind of felt like somebody wrote an outline and they just made the details up as they went along.  The Million Eyes of Su-Muru comes across as slightly more polished, as if it got to the 'first draft' stage but nobody ever went back and made sure the beginning fit in with the rest; it still sucks, but at least it did more preparation.  I guess that's gotta count for something.

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These Actors Are Notoriously Troublesome To Work With

Individuals in present enterprise love being within the highlight, however generally they let their egos get the very best of them. However whereas some have simply earned a fame for being downright terrible to work with, others have paid the last word value for his or her poor attitudes. From not memorizing their traces to being described as “soul-crushing” on set, these actors are notoriously tough to work with.

Did any of your favorites make the listing?

Regardless of making of thousands and thousands of by means of his movie work, Val Kilmer grew to become notoriously tough to work with through the mid-’90s. Richard Stanley directed Kilmer for 3 days in The Island of Dr. Moreau and revealed, ”Val would arrive, and an argument would occur.” John Frankenheimer changed Stanley and mentioned: “I don’t like Val Kilmer, I don’t like his work ethic, and I don’t need to be related to him ever once more.” Even Kilmer’s brother thought he was a narcissist. On the time, Kilmer was going by means of a divorce and was touring world wide to work on location — maybe that’s why his habits was so troubling?

In 1995, Joel Schumacher launched Batman Eternally, starring Kilmer because the caped crusader. The 2 had so many points with each other, at one level they refused to talk for 2 weeks throughout filming. Following the movie’s launch, Schumacher mentioned that working with Kilmer was insufferable, telling media shops: “He was being irrational and ballistic with the primary assistant director, the cameraman, the costume folks. He was impolite and inappropriate. He was infantile and unattainable. I used to be pressured to inform him that this is able to not be tolerated for another second. Then we had two weeks the place he didn’t communicate to me but it surely was bliss!”

Kilmer, who appeared in hit movies like The Doorways and Prime Gun early in his profession, has just lately battled throat most cancers and presently speaks with a rasp. He instructed CNN in 2017: “Fame is type of a multitude. You get handled otherwise, but it surely doesn’t have something to do with who you truly are.” He added: “I’d get upset when issues like Oscars and recognition failed to return my manner. I want to have extra Oscars than anyone.” Whereas he has appeared in quite a few movies for the reason that ’90s (in addition to some TV sequence), it seems the height of his profession has handed, perhaps because of his habits on set.

The subsequent actress had a promising profession forward of her, however then it crashed and burned.

In 2005, Chris Pine labored with Lohan on Simply My Luck. He referred to as the expertise and media consideration on the actress “an actual cyclone of madness, like being round The Beatles.” In 2007, there have been issues on the set of Georgia Rule, together with arriving late and never displaying as much as set in any respect. Morgan Creek Productions CEO James G. Robinson despatched her a letter, writing: “We’re effectively conscious that your ongoing all-night heavy partying is the actual cause on your so-called ‘exhaustion.’ We refuse to simply accept bogus excuses on your habits.” Her unprofessional habits even irked her co-star, Jane Fonda, who instructed her off.

In 2012 Lindsay Lohan made an look on Glee, but it surely was not a superb expertise for individuals who labored together with her. A supply from the present instructed E! Information that she was by no means on time and didn’t just like the job: “Lindsay was a complete nightmare. She was three hours late within the morning, and when she did lastly arrive, she simply didn’t need to be there. She didn’t need to work. She had not memorized her traces, and she or he saved disappearing so nobody may discover her … she has rubbed [the staffers] all of the fallacious manner by being so disrespectful of everybody else’s schedule.”

Lindsay Lohan later admitted to Oprah that she had an issue with tardiness. However she was more and more unreliable, and through her stint within the play Velocity The Plow in London, they needed to feed her the traces. She was dumped by a publicist and is reportedly tough to insure. Add that to her rap sheet of drug and alcohol offenses, and you may see why she’s struggled to achieve the trade. But, she retains getting supplied work. In keeping with Selection, she has been forged in season 2 of Rupert Grint’s sequence Sick Observe, set to air in 2018.

Subsequent, see how Edward Norton paid the last word value for being too pushy along with his artistic course.

In 2008, Edward Norton met with director Louis Leterrier to star in a reboot of Hulk. The actor agreed to the challenge on one situation: his options for the screenplay could be used within the script. Norton proceeded to make a considerable rewrite of the script only a few weeks earlier than capturing began, but it surely was far too late to alter something huge. The director added Norton’s adjustments, however Marvel hated it, notably the addition of extra dialogue and character improvement, which Norton had inserted into the script. When the Hulk returned as a part of The Avengers, Marvel changed Norton with Mark Ruffalo.

Edward Norton later wrote concerning the expertise on Facebook: “It appears it received’t work out for me…I sincerely hoped it may occur and be nice for everybody, but it surely hasn’t turned out as all of us hoped.” 4 years later he claimed that he simply didn’t like doing sequels. It wasn’t the primary time he messed with a script. In 2002, Edward Norton performed FBI profiler Will Graham within the Silence of the Lambs sequel Purple Dragon. When he confirmed up on set, he introduced the director Brett Ratner a number of pages of the script that he had rewritten (and never been requested to do). For sure, his enter was not appreciated.

Edward Norton has additionally fought with Paramount over contract negotiations, notably about showing in The Italian Job in 2002. The studio practically needed to sue the actor to look within the movie. On the set of Demise to Smoochy, he clashed with the costume designer as a result of he needed a swimsuit fabricated from hemp designed by Armani. The actor additionally demanded he make his personal edit of American Historical past X. Director Tony Kaye was so incensed, he instructed a reporter that Norton was “a narcissistic dilettante who raped the movie.” Norton’s most up-to-date movie, Collateral Magnificence, bombed on the field workplace.

Say it ain’t so! Is everybody’s favourite Glee star is definitely a nightmare to work with?

Naya Rivera starred alongside Lea Michele in Glee and the pair didn’t get alongside. Rivera recalled a time that their co-star Chris Colfer wrote an episode and introduced some canine with him to the set. Whereas Rivera didn’t title names, folks knew who she was speaking about when she wrote in her ebook that one explicit Glee star determined to “amp up her b**** issue” by making “an enormous deal concerning the canine, and demanded hand sanitizer any time one got here close to her.” The strain between the 2 girls bought so unhealthy, that their feud might have even price Rivera her job.

In 2014, Naya Rivera was so upset with Lea Michele’s habits on the set of the FOX present that she complained about it to the higher-ups. The very subsequent day Rivera discovered that she had been let go. She wrote in her ebook Sorry Not Sorry: Desires, Errors, and Rising Up: “So I assume you possibly can throw a b*** match, lock your self in your trailer, stall manufacturing but nonetheless allegedly discover time to leak tales to the press. I feel Rachel— erm, I imply Lea— didn’t like sharing the highlight. Ultimately, I do want that Lea and I had gotten alongside higher, however I’m not dropping sleep over it.”

Whereas engaged on Broadway’s Spring Awakening, Lea Michele reportedly freaked out when the air conditioner broke. Her colleague claimed the actress “saved threatening to name SAG concerning the unsafe working circumstances.” However regardless of her doubtful fame behind the scenes, Michele landed a job on the short-lived sequence Scream Queens, which was additionally created by Glee’s Ryan Murphy. She’s mentioned that she and Murphy are good associates. Michele is presently starring on The Mayor and says she seems as much as the careers of Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. On her newest position, she mentioned: “I needed one thing that felt related in that type of trajectory for me.”

Discover out who one director described as “soul-crushing” subsequent.

Kevin Smith directed Bruce Willis in Cop Out and had a horrible time working with the motion star. He revealed in a 2011 interview: “It was tough. I’ve by no means been concerned in a scenario like that the place one part just isn’t within the field in any respect. It was f*****g soul-crushing.” He added that Willis was not solely an issue on set. He additionally didn’t need to pose for photos for use on the movie’s promotional poster. Smith famous, “I imply, lots of people are gonna be like, ‘Oh, you’re simply attempting responsible the film on him. ‘I had no f*****g assist from this dude in anyway.”

In 2015, Bruce Willis claimed he had scheduling conflicts relating to the stage adaption of Stephen King’s Distress and was pressured to drop out of Woody Allen’s interval piece Cafe Society. But the rumor was that Willis was fired as a result of he didn’t know the traces. Twitter person Tom O’Leary tweeted: “Yep. Fired. A buddy is on the movie. Bruce couldn’t bear in mind a line. Cue playing cards had been no assist. Solid had been dropping their minds.”

Sylvester Stallone labored with Willis on “Expendables three and though he didn’t title names, he tweeted a few co-star in 2013: “GREEDY AND LAZY …… A SURE FORMULA FOR CAREER FAILURE.”

Regardless of the issues Bruce Willis allegedly has had behind the scenes, he doesn’t appear to have an issue getting performing jobs. He starred in half a dozen movies in 2016 and 2017, though none of them had been huge cash makers. He additionally has loads on his plate for the approaching yr. He’s internet hosting the TV present Gershwin Prize for Well-liked Track and can seem within the kidnapping drama Acts of Violence. He’s additionally rumored to reprise his position as John McClane in Die Arduous Yr One. His movie Demise Want hits theaters within the spring of 2018 and he’ll additionally seem in The Bombing.

Discover out why everybody hates Chevy Chase subsequent.

Chevy Chase is notoriously laborious to work with, in response to many who’ve starred alongside the actor or directed him. Within the ebook Saturday Evening: A Backstage Historical past of Saturday Evening Dwell, the writers be aware that Chase was generally known as “a viciously efficient put-down artist, the kind who may discover the one factor someone was delicate about — a pimple on the nostril, maybe — after which child about it, mercilessly.” Chase would additionally mock the writers, telling them that their concepts weren’t superb. He gave little credit score to his colleagues throughout interviews, ordered folks round, bragged about his fame, and did numerous cocaine.

Chevy Chase was shut with SNL producer Lorne Michaels till he abruptly stop the present on the finish of his contract. He additionally fired his supervisor. In keeping with one author, “Chevy was a scumbag the way in which he left. Deceitful and dishonest about the entire thing.” Chase mentioned his cause for leaving was “cash. A number of cash.” He additionally ticked off SNL co-stars comparable to Jane Curtin and Invoice Murray. In 1985, he steered homosexual forged member Terry Sweeney seem in a sketch the place they weighed him each week to see if he had AIDS. Within the ’90s, Chase requested a feminine author to pleasure him.

Regardless of his fame for being very tough, Chevy Chase landed a job on the TV comedy Neighborhood in 2009. He famously feuded with present creator Dan Harmon, who leaked a profane voicemail the actor had left him. Chase additionally fully alienated his co-stars, a lot of whom had been girls. Yvette Brown as soon as mentioned: “Perhaps he was from a time when girls weren’t empowered sufficient to talk up.” He’s appeared in a number of movies since leaving the present in 2014, a lot of which have been bit components. 2015’s Trip grossed simply $58 million on the field workplace and acquired simply 26 % on Rotten Tomatoes.

Do you know Jenny from the block has a nasty fame?

Jennifer Lopez reportedly has an extended listing of calls for film execs should adjust to if she stars in a movie. She’s additionally been identified to have a match if issues don’t go her manner. She instructed the Hollywood Reporter in 2016: “I used to be at all times fascinated by how I may see (a person) being late or being belligerent to a crew and it being completely acceptable. In the meantime, I’d present up 15 minutes late and be berated. Like, we’re not allowed to have sure opinions and even be obsessed with one thing, or they’ll be like, ‘God, she’s actually tough.’ It’s like, ‘Am I? Am I tough as a result of I care?’”

Jennifer Lopez instructed the Hollywood Reporter that she doesn’t like being generally known as a diva as a result of she isn’t one. “I bought a moniker of being ‘the diva,’ which I by no means felt I deserved — which I don’t deserve — as a result of I’ve at all times been a tough employee, on time, doing what I’m imagined to do, and getting that label since you attain a specific amount of success,” she defined. She revealed that she usually feels “crippled to voice her opinion.” She added, “Particularly as a result of sure administrators and the boys’ membership that they type could make you’re feeling like, ‘Oh, I can’t say something.’”

Jennifer Lopez, who can be a really profitable singer, has labored steadily on the massive and small screens all through her profession. Regardless of her fame for being a diva, she has no downside discovering individuals who will work together with her. She presently stars as a police officer within the TV drama Shades of Blue. In 2018, she is going to seem within the romantic comedy Second Act and the made-for-TV film Bye Bye Birdie Dwell! She is engaged on some music with DJ Khaled and collaborating with Cardi-B. She additionally seems in Guess Denims’ spring 2018 advert marketing campaign. Privately, Lopez retains busy together with her boyfriend Alex Rodriguez.

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Contemplating that Charlie Sheen was fired from the present he starred on, Two And A Half Males, it comes as no shock that he’s tough to work with. His battle with alcohol and medicines was in plain sight on the set of the hit TV present, as costars and the crew mentioned there have been occasions when Sheen “couldn’t get it collectively” they usually needed to cease filming. Whether or not he was offended, absent, or couldn’t bear in mind his traces, it was extraordinarily disruptive and pushed everybody to the purpose the place Sheen needed to be reduce.

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At his peak, Charlie Sheen was the very best paid actor on tv, but it surely additionally ended up destroying his possibilities of changing into the true actor he dreamed of changing into. At one level, he was being paid $1.eight million per episode within the sequence Two and a Half Males which individuals regarded him as charming when he first began. Nevertheless, folks started to note a change in Sheen as soon as the cash began coming in. It’s been attributed that the cash in addition to the identical outdated jokes on the present ultimately drove him loopy and sucked the present proper out of him.

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In 2017, Charlie Sheen instructed NBC’s As we speak Present that he was recognized as HIV-Optimistic and that a couple of folks knew about it, but demanded cash so as to maintain it a secret. He simply needed to clear the air and let everybody know in order that he now not needed to stay with this secret. Nevertheless, he wasn’t going to only let his analysis get the higher of him. In 2017, Sheen was in two movies titled mad Households and 9/11, proving that he isn’t totally out of the sport simply but. We’re positive that we are able to anticipate some extra motion from Sheen within the close to future.

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Though Russel Crowe is called a powerhouse actor, starring in action-packed but tasteful movies comparable to Gladiator, Grasp, and Commander: Far Facet of the World and extra. Apparently, all of his power and bruteness doesn’t simply keep behind the digicam. He has been identified get fairly rowdy on and off of the set of his movies. He’s no stranger to bodily altercations and different emotional habits. On the set of Gladiator, he even bought so upset with movie producer Brank Lustig, that he needed out of the manufacturing for worry of his personal life.

Alongside his brief fuse, Crowe has additionally been identified to make quite crude feedback about girls that he doesn’t discover to be as offensive as they are surely. In an interview with Australian Ladies’s Weekly, he commented that, “I feel you’ll discover that the lady who’s saying that the roles have dried up is the lady who at 40, 45, 48, nonetheless need to play the ingénue, and might’t determine why she’s not being forged as a 21-year-old”. The largest downside with that is that he instructed this to a lady’s journal which definitely didn’t entice many females to need to work with as they as soon as may need.

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But, his performing speaks for itself and it hasn’t appeared to cease too many administrators, producers, or different actors/actresses from nonetheless eager to work with him. He has starred in quite a few award-winning movies, and he’s not probably the most hated actor in Hollywood. He received the Academy Award for Greatest Actor for his work in Gladiator, been nominated twice extra for a similar award, and has received quite a few others. he’s been persistently making motion pictures all through the years and even has an upcoming film in 2018 titled Boy Erased. Though he could also be just a little tough across the edges, Russel Crowe is much from completed with performing.

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Because it seems whereas engaged on Star Trek for all of these years, William Shatner was not all that well-liked and was identified to have quite a few feuds occurring with completely different members of the forged. He was described as being jealous and at all times needing to be the focal point. In 2015, this stubbornness was demonstrated when Shatner determined to not go to Leonard Nimoy’s funeral due to a feud the 2 had that predated Star Trek. Though he says that he unintentionally missed his flight, that was no shock to anyone.

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One in every of Shatner’s most well-known feuds was with George Takei which has been occurring for over 5 a long time now. This animosity was fairly apparent through the Roast of William Shatner on Comedy Central when Takei actually laid in on Shatner to the purpose that it was clearly private. Though the purpose is to be as harsh as potential, it bought just a little actual when Takei closed with the assertion “F***okay you and the horse you rode in on”. In an interview with Invoice Maher, Takei even went on to say that he was so laborious to work with, that he was the one forged member that didn’t know Takei was homosexual.

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Lately, Shatner has appeared on the NBC actuality mini-series Higher Late Than By no means, which was concerning the adventures of Shatner and three different ageing celebrities as they traveled the world. He additionally has co-founded a comic book ebook sequence which wone the 2017 Unbiased Writer Ebook Awards’ Excellent Books of the Yr Unbiased Voice Award. In 2017, he additionally appeared within the animated sequence My Little Pony: Friendship is magic the place he was the voice of the character Grand Pear. Clearly, Shatner has been taking his older years to do his personal factor exterior of performing and testing the waters for brand spanking new ventures.

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It’s no secret that Mel Gibson has had a little bit of a rocky previous in his points with alcoholism, anti-Semitic remarks, and violent cellphone calls to his spouse. However working with him apparently wasn’t all sunshine lollipops and rainbows both. Round 12 years in the past, Mel Gibson received the title of probably the most hated man in Hollywood, which made many individuals draw back from working with him for quite a few causes. He was seen as a legal responsibility, violent, offended, and fully unpredictable. Many believed that he would truly by no means find yourself working once more due to his habits and noticed working with him as a loss of life sentence. That was till he cleaned up his act.

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Andrew Garfield revealed that he was “warned off” working with Mel Gibson on the movie Hacksaw Ridge, arguably the movie that rocketed him into stardom after his breakthrough Spiderman position. Garfield instructed discuss present host Graham Norton that Mel’s previous fame in not simply Hollywood however life, generally, was “an enormous factor for me to have a look at” previous to signing the contract to work on the movie. he mentioned that he’d learn and heard about every little thing that had occurred though he nonetheless admired him as an actor. However he wanted to fulfill him so as to make up his thoughts. Nevertheless, after assembly him, he knew that he’d moved on from his previous transgressions.

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Though Mel Gibson had made fairly the title for himself on either side of the spectrum some years again, his current work has proven some clear promise for the long run. After his DUI, anti-Semitic and racial remarks in opposition to African Individuals, it appeared that each one hope was misplaced for Gibson. But in 2016, he got here out along with his first directing position since 2006 along with his movie Hacksaw Ridge. He went on to obtain a directing honor on the Hollywood Movie Awards accompanying a standing ovation for his general comeback. Though it took 10 years, plainly Gibson is again and able to play ball once more.

Again in 1979, Meryl Streep instructed TIME that not solely was Dustin Hoffman tough to work with however that he has sexually harassed her the primary time they met whereas she was auditioning for Kramer vs. Kramer. Describing the interview to TIME, Steep mentioned: “He got here as much as me and mentioned, ‘I’m Dustin—burp—Hoffman,’ and he put his hand on my breast,” Streep mentioned. “What an obnoxious pig, I assumed.”

Steep went on to get the half and she or he and Hoffman famously clashed on set. In a single occasion, Meryl steered altering a climactic scene to make clear her character’s motivation. When writer-director Robert Benton agreed, Hoffman reportedly exploded and mentioned: “Meryl, why don’t you cease carrying the flag for feminism and simply act the scene?”

On prime of his now well-known beef with Meryl Streep, many others have echoed her sentiment and mentioned Dustin Hoffman is tough to work. A number of folks imagine that is do to him being a perfectionist. Wanting artistic management over every little thing associated to his efficiency in a challenge, the 80-something star even admits he’s tough. This isn’t too stunning, contemplating The Graduate star has had such an extended and profitable profession spanning greater than 5 a long time. Though he’s earned a fame for being very off-putting on set, it hasn’t curtailed his profession, and he has continued to be forged in quite a lot of roles all through the years.

If one factor’s for positive, Dustin Hoffman is effectively conscious of his fame for being tough to work with and isn’t afraid to say that he thinks this label is unfair, contemplating different actor’s unhealthy habits. “I stay in a neighborhood the place there are rather more objectionable issues being completed than disagreeing with a director,” Hoffman instructed The Guardian. “I imply, Jack Nicholson threw a tv set at Roman Polanski, Invoice Murray picked up the producer and threw her within the water, and Gene Hackman would throw a director from one finish of the room to a different, and I at all times thought, why have I bought this fame…”

Gwyneth Paltrow has had a formidable profession during the last 20 years. She’s starred within the Oscar-winning Shakespeare In Love, The Royal Tenenbaums, and Se7en, simply to call a couple of. There’s little doubt that the star is proficient, however she isn’t probably the most favored star both.

On a number of events, it’s been mentioned that Paltrow isn’t simple to work with because of her coldness and demanding nature on set. In keeping with IMDB, “Paltrow is alleged to be ultra-competitive and may be unfriendly to folks she sees as rivals. She apparently refused to talk to Scarlett Johansson on the set of Iron Man 2.”

What makes Gwyneth Paltrow’s case much more fascinating is that not solely is she notoriously unhealthy to work with, however she is seemingly hated by…everybody. At the least in response to Star Journal, she is. In 2013, the publication named her the “Most Hated Celeb.” And whereas they didn’t listing causes, it’s simple to see that they aren’t alone of their opinion. Google “Gwyneth Paltrow annoying quotes” and greater than 266,000 outcomes seem. However why precisely does everybody really feel so negatively concerning the star? Now we have a hunch….

Gwyneth Paltrow has earned herself a fame for being one of the vital pretentious stars on the market. However maybe what provides insult to damage is that she is so contradictory, claiming she’s identical to us however then at all times reminding us she’s higher. Affiliate editor Louis Peitzman says: “ the entire concept that she insists she’s relatable and like everybody else, however she makes it clear again and again that she’s simply not.”

Need proof? Listed below are a couple of memorable Paltrow quotes: “I’m actually (expletive) good at my job. People who find themselves fascinating and good know that, and that’s all that issues.” “I’m who I’m; I can’t fake to be someone who makes $25,000 a yr.” And naturally, “I might quite smoke crack than eat cheese from a can.”

Christian Bale had maybe one of the vital well-known on-set blow-ups ever, which has solidified him as one of the vital notoriously tough actors to work with in Hollywood. Whereas filming Terminator: Salvation, director of pictures Shane Hurlbut apparently interrupted an intense motion scene. Bale was greater than livid and fully exploded on set.

Bale halted all work and commenced shouting: “Am I going to stroll round and rip your (expletive) lights down, in the midst of a scene? Then why the (expletive) are you strolling proper by means of? Ah-da-da-dah, like this within the background. What the (expletive) is it with you? What don’t you (expletive) perceive?

Bale’s rant went on for practically 5 complete minutes as he proceed berating Hurlbut. Sadly for Bale, video of his episode was leaked and now stay on the web perpetually.