#because again how kenjaku would even would know jin is sukuna' reincarnated twin?

[epickiya722]

You know what, when Jin gets animated, I think it would be cool if his hair isn't pink but the OG blonde color Yuji used to have.

If not that, then a different shade of pink.

[cursedvibes]

From what I’m understanding there is zero biological connection between Yuuji and Sukuna and from the translations I’ve seen he (Sukuna) describes Yuuji as his other half rather than Jin, even though Jin is the reincarnated twin. Almost like the soul/essence passed on to Yuuji through Kenjaku/Jin’s meddling. It’s like gege gave sukuita shippers all the good ‘one soul two bodies’ bits without there actually being incest haha

No, Sukuna calls his twin his other half because twins are two parts of a whole and treated by jujutsu as the same. 番った相手が俺の片割れの生まれ変わり... 俺同じとみた "[they/Kenjaku] paired up with the reincarnation of my fragment... [who is] identical to me" then he gives the whole speech about having to absorb (lit. "eat" but he's clearly talking about one twin absorbing the other because that's how you get conjoined twins or polymelia) this fragment/other half in the womb (however the fuck he remembers that...or maybe he's trying to be poetic about a natural process he found out about later). Uraume asks him what he means by 片割れ and he says his twin 双子. Well, he says he rejected being a twin, but that's just his edgy way of saying this fragment is a twin he doesn't recognize. He then states again that Kenjaku paired with the soul of his twin that had been drifting around and that is likely how Yuuji was created. The implication here is that Jin is the reincarnation of his twin because Kenjaku and Jin are Yuuji's parents. Sukuna knows Yuuji is Kenjaku's child, but he doesn't quite understand what's up with his body. There seems to still be some essence of the twin passed on to Yuuji, which likely gives him some of his special powers and is also what Uraume felt from him when Yuuji and Sukuna first clashed after the transfer, it wasn't just leftovers from Sukuna's cursed emergy. That together with remnants of Sukuna's presence in his body seems to be what Yuuji has awakened now.

If you want to, you could still say that biologically aka the physical bodies they currently inhabit aren't related. Sukuna is neither biologically related to Jin nor Yuuji because only his twin's soul reincarnated and Jin's body should have no relation to the one he and Sukuna had in the Heian era. So far there's nothing pointing to the Itadoris being related to Sukuna and even if they were, it would be watered down through one millennia and since Sukuna never had kids, the Itadoris would need to come from some other part of his family. But that doesn't seem to be the case. It sounds like it's random where the twin's soul reincarnates and this time it was Itadori Jin.

Their bodies are different, but there's still a relation through their souls. Jin is Sukuna's twin in his essence and soul and thereby Sukuna is Yuuji's uncle. Since twins are considered two parts of the same, I've seen some say that Sukuna would also kinda be Yuuji's father. While that may technically be true, I think it's a bit obtuse because Sukuna was simply not involved in the creation of Yuuji, so the titel "father" for him seems meaningless to me. Being his uncle also fits his personality and the way he acts around Yuuji and Kenjaku more. He might admit some relation to Yuuji, but he definitely doesn't see himself as a father.

Also, personally speaking, even if Yuuji was Sukuna's other half and "one soul in two bodies" (aka twins) that still at the very least sounds like selfcest to me 😆 but I mean, SukuIta is hardly known for being wholesome

[actuallykyogai]

9 and 12 for the jjk ask meme!

Of course!! :3

9. My favourite fight scene...there's a lot of options to choose from, but if I had to choose one, it'd be Reggie vs Megumi's fight in the gymnasium.

Although I'm not a huge fan of Megumi, it's probably my second favourite fight behind Takaba vs Kenjaku. However I did choose this one because Reggie's my favourite character besides Pinchan + Hazenoki, but I just enjoyed it overall. I like how it wasn't just two dudes throwing hands; strategies and general intelligence played a big part in the outcome of the fight. The stakes were high, there were times where I thought the fight would go either way. Ultimately, Megumi won, which despite not liking him much, I was fine with. I liked Reggie's conclusion and his last words, he served his purpose well.

(Also gotta give a shout out to the Sendai Colony deadlock, more specifically Ryu vs Yuuta ☆)

12. Again, there's a lot to unpack here, I might not be able to state all my thoughts in a particularly logical or cohesive way. But it's all good!! For me, one thing I'd like to change is the lack of information regarding Yuji and his family. Considering that his mother and uncle are quite literally the main antagonists of the series as a whole, it feels like a waste to know so little about them.

Although I don't have any ideas pertaining to how Yuji would find out about his family (more specifically, Jin and Kaori | Kenjaku) I'd guess Choso would be the one to inform him. It wouldn't necessarily be what I would prefer (A Kenjaku and Yuji reunion would work more in my opinion) it'd relay some information that could possibly have been crucial to the plot and everything surrounding Sukuna's past as well.

A little additional opinion is that I think Kenjaku died too quickly. Another fight before what happened in Lake Gosho colony would have been nice. Hey, not even a fight, even a conversation with Yuji would suffice for me. I'd like to know more about Kaori's cursed technique and, like, anything about Jin and him being the reincarnation of Sukuna's twin.

The Itadori family + Sukuna and the Death Paintings are all very interesting characters and concepts to me ☆

[cruyuu]

Mel mel mel mel

WE NEVER SAW JIN'S BODY OR HIS DEATH!!!

What if Sukuna comes back and just pops into Jin's body, similar to kenjaku geading into kaori's body for backshots w/ jin to make his uncrustable baby yuuji

THERES HOPE!!! (im so fucking delusional)

No, anon, you're onto something and it would explain those flashback pages with Wasuke, Jin and Kenjaku (which if aren't addressed make absolutely no sense bc they don't contribute anything to the plot) !!!

We never do see Jin, who had like two pages dedicated to him and that's it. We still don't know what the hell happened to him after Kenjaku left, don't even know if Yuuji really remembers his early childhood and how he came into his grandpa care and so many things.

Maybe that is what Gojo talked to Yuuji about? His family lineage and the whole "hey your father actually had the soul of Sukuna's twin brother which makes him your uncle (technically)"

(Extreme cope incoming) Maybe because Sukuna ate him in the womb, it's more than probable that Sukuna might reincarnate into his body because they share souls and hence he too can be a vessel? Jin is Yuuji's dad and if he acts as an extension of Sukuna (twin + he got consumed), it would explain how Yuuji got Sukuna's CT. Probably not because he was a vessel, but because he was his son and hence he got it through inheritance. That explains why he wasn't able to get his mother's CT, which Kenjaku got instead, but then maybe that was simply because Kaori was dead and hence couldn't pass her CT? Hell, knowing where we are rn plot-wise (and how instrumental Yuuji was in bringing Sukuna down), it would make sense for Kenjaku to plot and scheme (and experiment) so that Yuuji can get Sukuna's CT rather than his mother's. (Also maybe Kaori being dead was what was necessary to achieve that goal 🤔)

Besides, like one anon pointed out, letters to both Megumi and Nobara are family related. Megumi learns about his father and Nobara about her mom, so what if Yuuji actually learned that he's related to Sukuna too and that's why he was so adamant on saving him? Gege please just address Yuuji's lineage alreadyyyy

Joking aside tho, it's fun to speculate about this because it hasn't been addressed at all, so it might be very, very important to whatever is happening now (the whole "Let's try again").

[epickiya722]

A part of me thinks it would be so funny if Yuji is a reincarnation of Sukuna himself.

Jin is the reincarnation of Sukuna's twin.

Twins are considered one individual by cursed techniques. Even still, they're their own separate pieces.

Sukuna consumed his twin in the womb and pretty much became one individual. Now, that twin's soul later became Jin Itadori. But what about Sukuna's soul?

Knowing Kenjaku, they probably pulled some slick shit and made 21 pieces of Sukuna into Cursed Objects or something, not 20. Because ain't no way Kenjaku just procreated with Jin and gave birth to a baby boy with super prowess without cursed energy and then later is capable of using Cursed Techniques like punching fucking souls like that unless they did something else. [In this post, I talk about that soul technique.]

Think about Choso and his brothers. They had Blood Manipulation because Kenjaku was Noritoshi Kamo (the ancestor) and mixed his (because Noritoshi is a man) blood into their creations. The Kamo technique is Blood Manipulation.

Now in this chapter (257), Yuji uses Sukuna's Cursed Technique, Shrine. Earlier in the story, Gojo mentions that Yuji will be able to use Sukuna's technique. Lo and behold he does!

How when he no longer is possessed by Sukuna?!

Jin has no cursed techniques or energy (as Sukuna's would be twin possibly didn't as expected of they're more like Maki and Mai and not Nanako and Mimiko) and Kenjaku as Kaori carried over Blood Manipulation (like the genes of it) and possessed and Anti-Gravity technique.

And I would say "Sukuna's technique could be an Itadori Inherited Technique" but again Jin has no known technique and hell, neither did Wasuke. And Jin is the reincarnation of Sukuna's twin. Technically, they're related by soul not blood for what can be inferred. Now, they could be blood related, I don't know.

Did Yuji consume something to now being able to use Sukuna's technique? Possibly.

But another possibility, for me, could be because maybe he's Sukuna reincarnated. Sukuna be hating on Yuji and it's mutual. Maybe, as I mentioned in another post, this could be the case of "your own worst enemy could be yourself".

And as I write this, I realized that's even more fucked up if that's the case. Because Jin is the reincarnation of Sukuna's twin and if Yuji is Sukuna's reincarnation or at least a piece of him, that would change this relation to...

Twins in the Heian Era -> Father & son in the modern age

At this point, I'm just rambling. Just a thought, my mind is preoccupied by other stuff to tell you the truth.

[epickiya722]

Just a thought!

So sitting here wondering how Kenjaku even got involved with Jin and everything.

Like, either Kenjaku just so happen to be interested in Kaori because of her technique and was lucky enough she was Jin's partner.

Or Kenjaku could have been tracking Sukuna's twin's reincarnation down, found Jin and decided to take over Kaori's body to pose as his spouse and was lucky enough she also possessed a technique.

I'll be honest, that second one confuses me a little because how do you track a damn soul down? What I can see is Kenjaku seeing Jin one day and realized how similar he looks like Sukuna and thought "those genes could work". (It would be so funny if Kenjaku actually had no clue who Jin really was and decided he was perfect because of how he looked.)

Now those are the only two scenarios I came up with but then I thought back to that first one.

What if Kenjaku's target wasn't Jin, but Kaori first?

Hear me out!

She had a technique Kenjaku could use, right? Seen it been used twice in the story. Faking the Prison Realm dropping to get Mahito and the others moving away so Kenjaku could go on to do whatever and fighting against Choso and Yuki .

It's a useful technique.

Just like Geto's! Kenjaku didn't just take over Geto's body because he was Gojo's (who Kenjaku wanted to seal away) closest person. He just so happen to be close to Gojo, but Kenjaku really wanted that Curse Manipulation.

(Here's the thing, it's not like Kenjaku could have actually made Geto and Gojo get that close now. That they did on their own. Kenjaku got lucky with that.)

What if that was the case for Kaori? Kenjaku was watching her this whole time because of her Anti-Gravity technique and it just so happen that she was to be Jin's partner?

(Kenjaku is a calculating, manipulative individual, but sometimes, again, it does feel like Kenjaku is just lucky at times.)

Better yet... this is going to sound crazy... but what if she happen to be related, at least, distantly to Kenjaku's previous vessels?

Just what I think, but given Kenjaku's history with the Gojo family, I doubt that's the only family Kenjaku kept tabs on. What if this vessel here...

... had been Kaori's ancestor? What if this vessel was a Kamo? Or someone who is a ancestor to both the Kamo family and whatever other family Kaori came from?

I bet you're thinking "Well, Kaori doesn't have Blood Manipulation".

Yes, but even being in the same family there will be different techniques.

In the Zenin family, Megumi has a different technique from Mai, Naobito, Naoya and other family members.

Gojo and Yuta are distantly related and they have different techniques.

So it's not really a far fetched idea. Have you seen Yuji's family tree?!

What I'm pretty much saying is that what if Kenjaku was keeping tabs on Kaori and her family this whole time? Possessing whatever member's body that seemed useful? Then Kaori came around and Kenjaku already planned to possess her body because of her technique but was lucky enough that she was Jin's wife?

Thinking about it, we know Sukuna figured out that Yuji's father is his twin reincarnated but... was it ever really explicitly stated Kenjaku knew?

Again, what if Kenjaku was just lucky enough that Kaori was Jin's wife but the original plan was to possess her body for her technique?

We don't know anything about the original Kaori, but I bet she has an interesting past. A past that was interesting enough to catch Kenjaku's eye. Whether it be who she is related to or just who she was as a person.

[epickiya722]

No, no, because I'm thinking about this and I said before. Kenjaku had some plans for Sukuna.

The reveal Jin, Yuji's father, is Sukuna's reincarnated twin makes me question even further why the hell Kenjaku gave birth to Yuji.

If there was a deal that Kenjaku had to provide a vessel for Sukuna for his reawakening in the modern age... couldn't Kenjaku just used Jin? Why go through the trouble to birth a vessel who works more like a cage for Sukuna unless Sukuna stated so, which I highly doubt?

From what we know, Jin was just that. Sukuna's reincarnated twin. He couldn't have possessed him? Be whole again? Have a body that could adapt to him because they're soul related? Sukuna could have still used his techniques in his body, come on. Kenjaku couldn't just have used Jin's love for Kaori to trick him into becoming a vessel? They used Geto's face to get Gojo's ass in a box, so???

Kenjaku really masqueraded as Kaori for who knows how long to create and birth Yuji to be Sukuna's vessel?

Even though they made plenty of contracts in which other sorcerers could use someone else's body when the time came for the Culling Games?

Could be argued that Kenjaku did it for fun, but again with Sukuna involved in this? Kenjaku would really birth a baby that could have control over Sukuna most of the time like no big deal just for fun?

And the thing is... Kenjaku has experimented with creating children before.

Remember Noritoshi Kamo the ancestor? Yeah, who forced a woman to have 9 abortions by a Cursed spirit and mixed Kamo blood into the mix? Creating Choso, Eso, Kechizu and their other 6 siblings? The Death Paintings?

Yeah.

What if they were just test runs? What if Kenjaku did those evil scientific experiments to later apply to Yuji?

Keep in mind, Kenjaku didn't just possesses Kaori's body. They possess dead Kaori's body. When you think about it, Yuji was born from a corpse.

Yuji, like his siblings, has 3 parents. Kenjaku who possessed Kaori, Kaori the body Kenjaku used and Jin the father.

I don't know, I'm just rambling. I just think that Kenjaku being Kenjaku... a damn wild card you never know what they really have planned until they say what it is and if they do, how we know it's the truth?

Just seems odd to me Kenjaku found the reincarnation of Sukuna's twin's soul, coupled up with him and birthed a baby that can control Sukuna and cage him when Jin could have been used instead.

[cursedvibes]

what are your thoughts on the new jjk chapter?

I think it's pretty good. Definitely the most interesting one we've had for a while. I really missed actually being invested in leaks and reading the raws (as far as that's possible), coming up with theories etc. I have to say, I would prefer it if Yuuji and Sukuna were not related at all, but I think the uncle/nephew thing is way more interesting than having them be twins or Yuuji being the reincarnation of some ancient guy we don't know. With Jin it's a bit convoluted, but I like that it gives him a more personal connection to Kenjaku and a reason to work with them. Makes him a bit more sinister too, if he remembers who he is and was willingly going along with Kenjaku's plan for his own benefit. He was always a bit fucked up and creepy in my eyes, the way he looked at Yuuji in that flashback seemed quite a bit obsessive, not like a doting father. I'm really curious about more details on this. The relationships between Jin, Kenjaku, Wasuke and Kaori and consequently their different intentions for Yuuji have become a lot more tricky now. I wonder how Kaori fits into all this. Smells a lot like set-up for future Heian era and/or Itadori family flashbacks.

It also confirms a lot of theories about Sukuna's origin. He absorbed his twin, which explains his physique and he achieved more power through it. Besides that, I think Kenjaku being Sukuna's sister-in-law is genius lol

So, beginning of the chapter really nice. The rest...hm...well, I said that I have mixed feelings about this relation of Yuuji to Sukuna and that's mostly because I don't like him gaining Sukuna's cursed technique, although it is nice that there's at least a personal touch to it. It still seems pretty cheesy and cliche. Thank god the main character got his power-up. I also don't see this being all that necessary at the moment? Most of the damage comes from the Black Flashes + Soul Punches. I don't feel like Yuuji needed to be able to do this to get the edge over Sukuna. Feels completely unnecessary to me. The "surpassing" Sukuna was also... eh. It's not important that Yuuji is more powerful than him, he was already way above Sukuna mentally and spiritually and he was beating him up just fine too.

Might be a setup for Yuuji doing something else with Sukuna's technique that relates to the black box. Speaking of which, it's strange that this entire fight since Gojo's death all Sukuna does is spam Cleave and Dismantle, no other functions of his technique. Maybe he'll do that now. If not now, then when? While he's at it, he can also start the merger to take advantage of the chaos. I'm glad we are finally past the formulaic part of the fight (I hope). Only took us 30 chapters... now things are shaking up and become a bit more unpredictable again. Hopefully this will lead to some flashbacks and more reveals of Yuuji and Sukuna's backstories. Megumi should've woken up now too. Hard to miss Yuuji rattling his cage this much, even if you're depressed. I'm surprised we haven't seen him yet or that Yuuji made contact again during one of his Black Flashes, but maybe next chapter.

Despite some of my complaints, it's nice to be finally excited for a new chapter again. Let's see how Gege keeps it up.

[cruyuu]

Apparently people watched that EVE video Avant or something and there is some figure that has Yuko (that girl that used to be overweight) hair. She is opened and shows an egg with sukunas eyes and marks

The theory is that Sukuna will reincarnate as a baby, Yuko's baby. Could that be his redemption? Maybe the irony is that he needs to lose to win instead of being trapped in constant fights to fill his life . Maybe he needs a sweet mother, and he will reincarnate along with his brother Jin

I always thought Sukuna just ate Jin in the womb by pure accident because his mother was starving and he convinced himself he ate him because he is evil and strong and is too stubborn to let that role go. You even see him bored during Yorozu flashbacks, he is not happy. People say he was happy fighting strong ones like Gojo but honestly I only see him actually feeling more than fighting craves with Yuji

A shame we may never see more of Kaori and Wasuke, I think Yuji was meant to be bad raised by Kenjaku but his grandpa saves him from Kenjaku and became such a good sweet kid, which is what Sukuna needed

He hates Yuji is the only one who saw him not as a God or strong fighter but as a person who had his own hobbies (yeah sukuna admit you like flowers)

Hi anon!

Tbh, I don't really like this theory. Like the idea of Sukuna being reborn as Yuuji's son or seeking redemption that way is just... idk. It makes no sense. Besides, Yuko barely has any impact on the story and for her to be given such importance out of nowhere would just be an asspull, because there's lack of foreshadowing or any clues that she'd be the one to do anything. For her to matter that much, she'd have to stick around and not just be featured in one chapter.

I very much liked what we have gotten already from her and think that was all there was to it.

It's true that Sukuna was born in the period he was born in, and that how he came into this world might've shaped his mindset, but again, we know so little about him outside of what is told to us by others that we can't say for certain who he really is, if he regrets or not, if he's changed or not. Still, from what we have seen and his words alone, he has no regrets and doesn't want to change.

And yep, you're right. Sukuna looks bored in Yorozu flashbacks. If he lives by his whims and enjoys living that way, then how come he isn't appearing satisfied in those flashbacks? I thought he did everything for his own satisfaction and that he found peace in that, but apparently, that isn't entirely true either. He looks far happier now, in the modern era, than he ever did back in the Heian era (from what we have seen).

A shame we may never see more of Kaori and Wasuke, I think Yuji was meant to be bad raised by Kenjaku but his grandpa saves him from Kenjaku and became such a good sweet kid, which is what Sukuna needed

It's a shame that Yuuji's lineage wasn't addressed, that him and Kenjaku didn't share a fight nor ever talked, nor the fact that the big elephant in the room- being related to Sukuna through reincarnation- is ever addressed. It seems more and more like it was added for, idk, maybe shock value? Since Sukuna doesn't ever bring up recognizing that Yuuji's the son of his twin brother at all after that talk he shares with Uraume. Hell, the fact that Yuuji came from a corpse of a woman inhabited by a brain is a lot yet Yuuji brushed off everything like it was everyday news.

There's a lot of things that need to be addressed and all of them are about Sukuna and Yuuji. We can only headcanon certain stuff because canon just establishes them and then forgets about them. There's still 4 chapters left and I'm holding out hope but... I fear it'll just bring more questions than answers.

And yeah... idk if I agree that Sukuna would still be a good kid if raised by good people. The very fact that he had grown in strength so much to be considered a calamity during what is considered to be the most peaceful era in Japan is practically proof. Yes, it's true that he ate his twin but that, by his words alone, was his choice (he had rejected that fate) and the way the narrative puts it, it makes it seem like he doesn't want it to be misinterpreted as anything but that.

He doesn't want any pity because he chose to walk that path himself and doesn't regret it.

But still, the way he acts is... weird at times.

He hates Yuji is the only one who saw him not as a God or strong fighter but as a person who had his own hobbies (yeah sukuna admit you like flowers)

And this is precisely why. Like why indulge Yuuji if you live by your whims, why bother correcting him on stuff and dismissing everything that you say to him ("You like flowers?" "This is from Fushiguro's memory")? Like what's the point of that?

It just seems more and more like he doesn't want to be seen no matter how much Yuuji's pushing for that and the most Yuuji could come close to is to come to his own memories. He couldn't go through his memories because ??? We don't know. Like despite sharing souls, these two can touch anyone's and see everyone's but each other's.

Maybe canon has an answer for why. I'm hoping that it does.