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emmarzhere · 4 years ago

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3am AU time: Sanders Sides Swap!!

Once again I can’t sleep due to my brain insisting it’s much more important to write down these ideas for a Light and Dark side swap AU than sleep, so 3AM TUMBLR RAMBLE IT IS BABYYYY!!!

So I wanted to try using traits already existing in each character to make their inverses, rather than just swapping traits or completely changing the character’s core values, and these are my initial late night ideas:

(Note: I saved this as a draft and revisited it in the morning / afternoon to make sure it all actually made sense and to add to it with a fresh mind)

(Extra note: I accidentally lost all my additions and the entirety of Patton’s and Virgil’s descriptions by refreshing the page, so it’ll now be written out again in a less formatted way. DAMN YOU TUMBLRRRR!!!!!!)

Roman:

My initial reaction was to make Roman “Pride”, and extend on his egocentric nature (like what is done with many Dark!Roman interpretations), however five minutes of laying in bed thinking about it later I found a trait I felt fit him better: Delusion.

This Roman could still be very much “Netflix kids and family”, living and trying to make Thomas live in a fantasy land where everything is always fine and dandy. This insistence of only seeing things through his figurative or not so figurative rose tinted glasses makes this Roman very naive and hard to get through to, and while on the surface appears very appealing to Thomas (when they first meet Thomas doesn’t understand why Roman counts as a dark side) can be very dangerous if Thomas leans too much into his ways of escaping reality, aka making Thomas a delusional person. The best part of this choice of trait for Roman is that I can still tie in his ego; delusions can be fuel people’s egos, and also to protect them from harsh realities, hence why Delusional works as a role for Roman.

While normally I see Dark Side Roman designed to be an evil prince or king, I decided to go for a more glamorous look which I think fitted my version more: Roman would wear a pristine black and red suit consisting of a red waistcoat, tie and trousers, a black button up shirt and black or red heeled boots. I also wanted his design to link to the white peacock (a rare type caused by a genetic mutation), so I topped off the outfit with either a vintage white shawl or a Cruella style coat (leaning towards Cruella because we know Roman and Disney!) with white peacock feathers attached (still trying to decide if I want Roman to have decorated the feathers with red and black accents or not), and a pair of literal rose tinted glasses to hide his white peacock eyes - pale blue with a glassy look to them which always gives the impression that he is far away, even when he’s not.

Finally his sword is replaced with a grandiose black walking stick with silver details, along with the handle being a silver peacock head (note: possibly detachable from the cane to reveal a silver knife?). I chose this as weapons like these in fiction are often used to appear innocent, only to reveal a hidden depth of skill and character; a description which I think applies well to Delusional Roman.

Extra note: Delusional Roman gets snappy, angry, or even threatening when people try to break him out of or correct him on his delusional ways, though he will often try to slip deeper into his fantasies than actually deal with emotional confrontations.

Extra extra note: Roman is incredibly jealous of his brother as he can’t understand why he’s been accepted despite Roman being the one who creates such wonderfully perfect worlds for Thomas to escape off into! He’s also jealous of how his brother doesn’t care what others think of his work and doesn’t seek validation from the others, not that Roman would ever admit that he does either of those things.

Patton:

So the 3 main aspects of Patton I felt would work best for a Dark Side are his destructive selflessness, his overly strong morale compass and how he encompasses many of Thomas’ more negative feelings.

I couldn’t decide whether to officially label him as “Denial” or “Repression”, but either way he holds a similar role: he represses his / Thomas’ negative feelings, as well as tries to push Thomas to do the morally right thing (as he still represents Morality, just not as his main trait) which almost always is the selfless option. It’s almost impossible to convince this Patton that his viewpoint is not necessarily the correct choice (he’s in denial that he as Morality can ever be in the wrong), and he becomes hostile when his views are continuously challenged.

The light sides see Patton as the main holder and cause of Thomas’ negative feelings (eg. makes Thomas act selfless and do things for others until he’s burnt out and depressed), and when Thomas is feeling these negative feelings Patton experiences them but more strongly to the point where the others have to force him out of bed (usually Logan) and take care of him until he and Thomas get out of the depressive slump. However once he’s out he will deny that he was the problem and begin pushing Thomas down the self-destructive path again.

While this Patton will deny his depression and many negative feelings, he is still not as upbeat as Happy-Pappy-Pal-Canon-Patton, matching more with how the side acts in more serious moments such as at the end of SvS redux. He will smile and comfort others, but laughter and puns are rarely seen.

Another thing about this dark side Patton is that he is very manipulative (a trait shifted from Janus to Patton), even if he doesn’t believe himself to be. He uses his role as “morale compass” to invalidate other’s opinions if they clash with his, and often emotionally hurts the sides he gets close to by caring for them and performing selfless acts for them to show his love (eg. makes breakfast for the other Darks sides every morning, goes out of his way to learn more about their interests so that they can have someone to talk to them about) followed by him simplifying complex morale dilemmas in a way that makes it appear that his option is the only correct one, making the others feel bad about their differing viewpoints (a bit like how Roman felt invalidated and morally wrong throughout SvSR as his views didn’t line up with Patton’s).

This Patton wears a worn out pale blue shirt with a fraying black jumper over the top, leaving only the collar of the shirt visible. He has frog features too; with blots of green skin scattered all over his body, slightly webbed hands and he croaks! The splodges grow larger the more emotion Patton represses. He also really doesnt like his frog features as they don’t align with the perfect image of himself that Patton has in his head, so he tries to cover them up as much as possible with his black jumper, pale blue gloves (leather ones as he tried woollen ones and his frog skin made them go sticky) and baggy trousers, although there isn’t much he can do to hide the blots on his face or his brown frog eyes....

(He’s also constantly worn out as frog-pops has no clue what self-care even means)

Extra note: Patton goes through a sort of alternate character development to canon Patton, where as he begins to be accepted by some of the Light Sides and Thomas they discuss how he doesn’t just represent Thomas’ negative feelings, but all of his feelings; a lot of them are just also accidentally repressed alongside the “bad” feelings. As time goes on Patton becomes more cheerful and goofy, even dropping the occasional dad joke, although never quite to the levels of canon Patton.

Extra extra note: The happier this Patton is, the less faded the blues on his clothes become (much like Virgil’s eyeshadow), until at moments of peak happiness his gloves and shirt are canon Patton blue (eg. when Thomas is with Nico, or when Janus and Thomas first accepted him). Cute blue embroidered designs also form on his black jumper at peak happiness, such as butterflies, simple cats, pawprints and frogs.

Logan:

So Logan is the only side I have decided to leave with the same official trait title: Logic, although he also has the orange trait Anger within him. He will also be taking the place of Virgil as the Dark Side who is prematurely accepted.

However Logan here is still different from canon Logan: he represses and denies his emotions even more than canon due to the other dark sides attitudes towards him (Delusional Roman in particular does not appreciate the truth bombs and logical reasoning the calculator watch drops), leading to more angry outbursts / orange showing through. This makes Logan a horribly unstable side, with him appearing completely apathetic to any sort of feeling for an undetermined period of time until he next reaches his limit and has an explosion of rage - he holds both Logic and Anger/Orange in him here, but the anger shows through a lot more due to his circumstances.

His clothes are always shredded and falling apart due to him tearing them when he’s angry + the rage can come out like an explosion that wrecks everything in his surrounding area, including the clothes on him. He sticks to plain black t shirts and trousers to start with as he claims he doesn’t see the point in putting effort into an outfit as he has no desire to please others.

However when Thomas starts making videos Logan can’t help but show up from time to time. He is unsure why as he could not care less what Thomas or the idiotic “Light Sides” think of him, though he figures while he’s there he might as well educate the buffoons so they can reach more informed, educated conclusions to their constant dilemmas.

At first the Lights don’t take his presence well, and more times than one he’d leave towards the end of an episode to explode in the privacy of his room. But surprisingly they eventually start listening to him, considering his inputs, and Logan leaves filming shoots satisfied, even popping into the Light Side’s area occasionally outside of filming days to talk to them.

However Logan notices a pattern as time goes on: the more he’s around the Light Sides, the less he goes Orange. He tests it by spending a week only hanging with the Lights and finds that his anger barely built up at all. Logan quickly reaches the conclusion that his orange trait isn’t actually uncontrollable, it’s how the others treated him that made it so hard to act civil. That is what leads to Logan hating the Dark Sides (much like canon Virgil does) and finally joining the lights.

Soon after being accepted Logan has an outfit change, where he goes from his burnt, tattered rags to his canon outfit, as he finally feels stable and appreciated enough to trust himself in not ruining a nice new Logic outfit. From then on his journey is about accepting that he has feelings and learning that they’re valid.

Extra note: Logan’s worst fear is the idea of going Orange in front of Thomas or the Light Sides - he finally has people who listen to him and if they see his orange side it might scare them off or they’ll lose any respect for him they had. Worst of all they could get hurt…

Extra extra note: Neither Thomas or any of the Light Sides apart from Janus are aware that Logan holds the Orange trait, believing that he only ever was Logic, just more apathetic to start with (and they actually all buy his reasoning of his old outfit being trashed due to him not caring enough about appearances to fix it, to Janus’s dismay but not disbelief - a bunch of himbos, the lot of them!).

Virgil:

Virgil still represents the “Fight or Flight” response in this AU, just without the excess Anxiety. His official title would be “Instinct”, and he would be more confident than canon Virgil. The decrease in anxiety would also make him better at making rational decisions, though he would still freak out and make not-so-great choices in stressful situations.

Rather than a spider, I decided to link this Virgil more strongly with a cat, with heightened senses, lightning reflexes and eyes that reflect light much like a cats. These additions also match with his change of aesthetic from patchwork emo to fantasy vigilante mixed with bright purple punk, plus the addition of purple eyeshadow applied actually correctly. I made this choice as both canon and this Virgil see themselves as a protector of Thomas, yet Virgil is still slightly more morally grey than the other 2 Light Sides (sort of like canon Logan) hence a darker design. Plus is it really Virgil at all if he doesn’t spend his free time listening to MCR?

Virgil also takes the role of canon Roman when it comes to Patton being accepted: he initially falls strongly for Patton’s caring qualities, with the Dark side helping sooth his anxious moments and suggesting that Thomas make other non-selfish options that don’t make Virgil feel as anxious as some of Janus’ options. So for Patton’s first few conflicts Virgil sticks up for him, claiming he’s not all bad. Then he witnesses how Patton’s selfless choices affect Thomas and realises he’s been manipulated; there was no reason to go all the way with Patton’s choice and hurt Thomas, yet Patton had convinced him that it was either his way or the wrong way, no compromises available.

So by the time Patton reveals his name Virgil really dislikes him and makes a snarky remark in which Patton replies with a jab at how he didn’t realise being Thomas’ protector meant that you could be as evil as you wanted with none of the consequences. Virgil’s equivalent line to Roman’s hero one could be something like “Don’t you trust me?” or “I thought I was your best friend?” - then again Roman’s hero line does work with this version of Virgil.

Janus:

This was one of the easiest traits to decide: with a lot of his more manipulative and deceitful traits being distributed between Patton and Roman, Janus is officially titled “Self-Preservation”, and while he doesn’t claim the father role like Patton does, he is still very much seen as a parental figure and guiding light for Thomas and the lights. He tries to be warm and welcoming to the Light sides (part of his role is to take care of Thomas, hence taking care of the parts that make Thomas), and they naturally gather around him as he gives off a safe aura.

However he is not quite as kind to the Darks - he still has the role of managing what truths Thomas can handle, so he controls which sides stay hidden from him. The darks being revealed tends to be down to him slipping up or the side finding a way around his defences more than by him deciding Thomas is ready to meet them, and each time it happens he beats himself up over it and tries to work harder to not let it happen again. The problem he doesn’t realise is that the slip ups tend to happen in the first place due to him overworking himself to make the others / Thomas happy - he doesn’t quite perform the self-care he preaches about.

I’m still not quite sure where I want to go with Janus’ outfit: the initial thought was to put him in a more Patton inspired attire, however this is still Janus, and he is still a theatrical boi. I ended up settling for a mainly cottage-core aesthetic with a flowy long sleeve yellow shirt made out of a light fabric, brown trousers and an overly large sunhat. He also drapes himself in bright patterned shawls and wraps (still predominantly yellow in colour) as while he doesn’t look as snake-like as he canonically does he still has certain snake traits, such as a weakness to the cold and a yellow tint to his left eye.

However snake features do begin to form later on into the AU as Thomas’ views on Lights and Darks alter over time: he begins to realise that despite how it appears Janus is not always in the right, such as how if it hadn’t been for mistakes Thomas would never have met the Darks and learnt to grow as a person - in fact if Self-Preservation got the say in everything he would likely do little growing whatsoever. He and in turn the other Lights begin to find Janus too stifling until SvSR happens where under the stress Janus becomes a true snake boi. The scales and proper snake eye don’t fade afterwards due to Thomas’ subconscious change in perspective, and while it is a big new insecurity at first over time Janus learns to accept these new changes to himself and the Mindscape, and begins adding a touch of darker mystical aesthetic to his look (slightly fantasy fortune teller based) to match his new look better - although cottage-core remains his go to!!

Extra note: In this AU Janus is definitely the side that would most likely be seen going around the Mindscape in a dress (Roman would also wear dresses on occasion but mainly only within his daydreams in the Imagination); he is all about taking care of yourself, and that includes wearing what makes you happy! Though I’m still kind of tempted to put him in a dress full time...

Extra extra note: while Janus is very much the “adult figure” in the Light Mindscape, he still has his goofy moments like in canon - in general he is more relaxed and jokey with the others...though he’s still a sarcastic shet.

(I struggled finding images that matched at all with the ideas in my head, so take these as very vague links to the actual design)

Remus:

Oh boy, Remus is a fun one...

So now that Roman is the twin known by a different title (like how canon Remus is referred to as “Intrusive Thoughts”), Remus now has claim to the Creativity role!! However Remus isn’t going to do a 180 personality wise - he’s still going to be a chaotic gremlin, just with a light side twist.

His design is purposely all over the place: his aesthetic is mainly pirate based with a long sleeve pirate shirt, loose black trousers and heeled black and silver pirate boots, alongside a dark green pirate jacket and slightly brighter bandana. However he has other seemingly random elements thrown in there, such as a white and green hero cape (fuck what Edna says) coming off the back of the coat, and random colourful potions in the green belt under his coat alongside a knight’s sword. This mismatched look is due to the type of imagination Remus provides: while he still represents and creates intrusive thoughts, he also creates adventure stories and life goals/dreams for Thomas, hence takes a form that has mixed elements from Thomas’ self-inserts and protagonists for said stories. While he personally loves his messy design (do you know how much fun can be had with magic potions, swords, tentacles, and a day in the Imagination? Remus sure does), it does cause some arguments between him and Logan over how illogical him and his ideas are (like canon Roman and Logan).

Roman makes this Remus....uncomfortable. Not necessarily because of his ideas (those are just dull and vomit-worthy in his opinion), but because of how he can’t separate dreams and reality - while Remus loves coming up with Imaginative stories for Thomas and setting slightly outlandish goals for the future, he has a level of awareness that Roman lacks in how he knows Thomas won’t ACTUALLY end up being a morally grey pirate travelling the seas to claim back the magical pendant of octopus powers (unless...). He’s also uneasy with how easily Thomas can fall for Roman’s delusions of grandeur and romance, in fact it opens up quite a major insecurity on how despite being the “good” twin his brother seems to succeed more as the creative role, eg. how Thomas will come up with a dream future career path, husband and even car in a matter of seconds yet Remus has to slave and hone in on decent ideas for weeks to reach his own standard.

This leads to another thing about Remus: while he doesn’t care what others think of his ideas (the trait I mentioned earlier that Roman was jealous of) he hold a high standard to himself and gets extremely happy when he perfects an idea. Besides he still wants his ideas to actually be used by Thomas as them being dismissed for not being good enough does hurt (a bit like how Remus got frustrated in the recent episode with how his “good” intrusive creations were being torn apart by Logan’s methods).

Extra note: The fact that Thomas doesn’t like or appreciate some of his darker ideas / intrusive thoughts doesn’t bother Remus too much as he tends to put less effort into them as he knows they won’t be liked - he just can’t help that they pop into his head and he has to get them out - repression is bad after all! However maybe there can be some episode drama about Remus wanting to be less stifled and have Thomas at least consider some of his more mature themes that he thinks would be good to expand upon.

Extra extra note: Just assuring the fact that Remus not caring what the others think about his work does not correlate with him not caring about the others. He loves his fellow Light Sides and Thomas - he’s just confident in his own craft and while appreciates advice and improvements from the others (he and Logan have a field day on creating biologically accurate gore together) he also is aware that HE is Creativity, and he understands his craft better than the others.

Extra extra EXTRA note: Wasn’t really sure how to put it in there but Remus still represents Thomas’ lust. Do with that what you want.

Thomas:

So all these changes to the sides....of course it has it’s effects on character!Thomas! However I’m getting REALLY tired now so this will be done in bullet points:

Not as Disney-centric as canon/real Thomas.

Has less issues with Anxiety, and more issues dealing with Depression

His morals start off a bit more flexible than canon due to always having we-live-in-a-society Janus as his guide

Still has intrusive thoughts, but not as debilitating with the lower levels of anxiety and the much better relationship with Remus.

Still overworks himself trying to help others (nice one Patton!)

Might have a different career due to Roman being more out the frame - maybe goes into writing instead with Remus’ more diverse form of creativity.

Does explore more diverse creative ideas and darker themes, but still out of habit sometimes puts down possibly good ideas as on surface level they appear too morally wrong.

However could possibly be in a non-creative career, and his major longing for a new career path could be what allows Roman through for the first time.

Less dad jokes but still incredibly goofy with both Remus and Janus being more present.

I think I’m going to wrap up there for now! I may make some art for this at some point, but I also want other’s opinions and ideas for this AU.

If you made it this far, thanks for reading!!

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famder-news · 6 years ago

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Video Review Wednesday: Dealing with INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS

Hello, everyone!!! Before we begin, I wanted to let y’all know that due to the new-ness of this video, ALL of our normal top-of-the-post chatter, including the characters in the video and the length of the video, will be under the cut in order to avoid spoilers. This post will remain not properly tagged as well; at least, it sill remain so until 2 weeks after the video’s been up to refrain from spoilers. Mobile users, just,... scroll REALLY FAST!!!

Watch the NEWEST Sanders Sides video HERE!!! (But make sure to read the warning card at the start of the video first!!! Keep yourselves safe!!!)

SO!!! To be fair, I was going to write a video review for Selfishness Vs Selflessness. BUT!!! This video is New and Exciting and we’re going to review it!!! Unlike other Sanders Sides Reviews, I’ll be writing about this one as I watch it!! I’ll be numbering my thoughts as I go under Stray Thoughts plus my random thoughts that might be wrong about the video’s content, along with the time in the video (

put in parenthesis and then italicized

) that I thought of it so that you guys can keep up. I’m really excited to watch this, so let’s go!!!

Video Length: 41:16

Characters In Order Of Appearance: Thomas, Virgil, Patton, Roman, Logan, [DATA EXPUNGED]

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Our video starts with!!!! A CONTENT WARNING!!! The first content warning placed in-video for Thomas’s content, save for possibly Accepting Anxiety because I’m not about to go and check. Then (ignoring the ad), the video opens with a LATE and TOTALLY PANICKING Thomas getting ready to film. I noticed that he looked REALLY tired, but at this point I’m pretty sure it’s Thomas and not Virgil.

Then, the intro card!!!

Thomas is... in a bath robe, obviously exhausted, and trying to film his video. He’s rambling, he’s exhausted, he looks like the emotional equivalent of getting hit by a bus, AAAND Virgil and Patton show up when Thomas is like “yeah everything has gone to SHIT.” Patton looks.... Surprisingly anxious, even for him. Virgil agrees to try and change the subject, but Virgil looks FAR more tired than normal. His eyeshadow is darker than it’s been in a long, long time.

And then Roman appears RIGHT as they’re trying to change the subject. Patton and Virgil won’t tell Roman what’s going on; weird, to be honest. BUT since they’re lying, I’m pretty sure Deceit will appear (2:10). Roman insists that he wants to know what’s going on. Thomas AND Virgil both said Ro wouldn’t want to know, and Patton’s just trying to help kep Ro distracted, and failing miserably.

AND HEEEERES LOGAN!!! Who gets IMMEDIATELY roasted because he’s pretty sure the whole Thomas Feeling Bad thing is because of Lee and Mary Lee VS The Callback. He calls Patton and Virgil’s reactions an over-reaction only to get roasted because of Logan’s self-defined state of having no feelings. Cue the falsehood screech when he gets called out, and then Roman’s STILL trying to figure out what’s going on.

AND LOGAN DAMN NEAR REVEALED IT!!! and EVERYONE starts yelling at him to SHUT HIS MOUTH!!! To be honest, I’ve never seen this happen in ANY Sanders Side video--Like, sure, we’ve had 1 side yell at another, but THIS? Dang...

HE WAS GONNA SAY INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS!!! HOT DAMN LOGAN, YOU GO!!! And NOW I know why there was so much yelling!!! Thomas wants to Not Think About It!!!

And now they’re talking about a movie (that I, Mod Wheat, have never seen), and Thomas... Spaces out. And has an Intrusive Thought. AND holy shit THERE ARE hands BEHIND rOMAN’S TV!!!!!!!

Ladies and Gents, introducing our Newest Side: Bastard Man!!! He’s got the world’s most COMICAL mustache and, honestly, his appearance is Unnerving. But, that’s probably the point!!! I had to pause the video because of my yelling about the new side, so... Back to the vid!!!

And OH WOW, Patton and Virgil are SCARED SHITLESS of him!!! And now Bastard has a staff!!! WHAT IS GOING ON!!! IT WAS A MACE NOT A STAFF HE HIT ROMAN!!! BASTARD MAN IS A DOUCHE!!!!

And NOW we can call Bastard Man Duke!!! I... Don’t know how I feel about how Roman was handled.

AND: MUSICAL NUMBER!!! Duke jumps STRAIGHT into an adam and eve comparison, and we have Virgil and Patton looking uncomfortable and nauseous. AND THEN HE STARTS SINGING ABOUT GETTING THE SCARY PIECES OF CREATIVITY!!! Which, base don the fact that Thomas canonically and IRL doesn’t like Scary Content, is... Weird. And the other sides... Can’t seem to get this New Boi to STFU. WILD.

DECEIT KIND OF APPEARS!!! MY SNAKE SON!!! STOPPED HOLDING DUKE BACK!!! Honestly, it looks like Duke took Dee venting about the whole Lee and Mary Lee situation WAY OUT OF HAND, but still!!!

and NOW we get into more interesting material!!! Duke starts running through... What I would call intrusive thoughts. Licking the blowhole of a dolphin? Wild. Best friend shut inside a coffin? ALSO Wild, but in a less good way.

And Duke just straight-up saying “YEAH you’re a BAD PERSON because you THINK these things????” Like... Holy SHIT, dude. If I had to guess, Duke is Intrusive Thoughts. We’ll see if I’m right.

Music ends, and Duke claims he’s Thomas’s Creativity. But, only a piece of it. The piece that goes to the gore and the scary and the “juicy stuff”, as Duke puts it.

And then they talk about Jeffery Dahmer... Thomas tries to get the Duke to shut up, which only succeeds in getting the Duke to... NOT shut up.

And then they get into WHAT the Duke is. He’s half of Thomas’s creativity--the half that he’s squirreled away, banished as bad imagination. This, in turn, led to the Duke being experienced as Intrusive Thoughts by Thomas. Which, at about 15 minutes into the video, shouldn’t be where they leave the defining off.

And then... Virgil says that Thomas is, inherently, NOT the good person he wants to be. Because of the intrusive thoughts caused by the Duke. Now, I don’t know much about how intrusive thoughts perpetuate, but I DO know that having them doesn’t inherently make you a bad person; it’s when you ACT on them (and by them I mean the WORST ones) that you are.

After that, Virgil tries to claim that the Duke is, well, kind of useless because some thoughts have no meaning. Which is great!!! Except that he immediately crumbles afterwards, stating that clearly they MUST have a purpose otherwise why would they have been thought? this goes on to claiming that the thoughts aren’t Thomas’s, and that therefore means Thomas is innocent. Which... doesn’t end well, since only Thomas can think Thomas’s thoughts.

I’m going to... SKIP a bunch of content here, since I’m 20 minutes in and I want to finish the post before I hit a word limit or my power goes out aka I got distracted watching the video akdfhklshd, so we’re jumping to... LOGAN!!!

Logan starts debunking the Duke, running through why the Duke exists at all as well as the fact that the Duke having as much power as he does is because of Patton and Virgil. Virgil, because the thoughts make him anxious and make the anxiety jump WAY through the roof, and Patton because Patton doesn’t want to just... leave the thoughts be and let them happen.

And with this reveal, and the use of Logic to dismantle the Duke, we are left with several things to think of; the fact that intrusive thoughts can be combated with Logic, the fact that if you just relax and let them go they can’t hurt you (very much), and the Duke’s name: Remus.

After that, Remus nyooms off to... wherever Remus goes, and Roman’s back to consciousness!!! God bless you Roman, we missed you!!! And then... Roman apologizes to Logan for calling him a name!!! Score!!! And then Thomas is feeling alright, and HE THANKS LOGAN AND CALLS LOGAN COOL!!!! AND MY GOD!!! MY SMART SON!!! LOOKS SO BAMBOOZLED BUT LIKE CONTENT!!!! HELL YEAH!!!

And Remus pops back up one more time, Roman reveals that he doesn’t LIKE Remus because Remus is all the BAD things bout creativity, and then it’s Thomas and Virgil. And BOY OH BOY does Virgil have ONE HELL OF A REVEAL!!! For the sake of those whose mobile doesn’t scroll fast enough, I won’t spoil it (even though I’ve spoiled pretty much most of the episode), since SOME things must be discovered for their own merit!!!

And then... it’s the end of the video!!! It’s confirmed that the Thomas that does the Ads in the beginning of the longer videos is the Sanders-verse canon Thomas!!! Really interesting take, honestly!!!

End Card:

Remus is the Trash Man. He eats the deodorant while watching Thomas, it’s fucking WILD!!! And then at the LAST SECOND, Remus pops up like “There’s a snake in my butt!!!” like HELL YEAH REMUS YOU GO REMUS!!!

Stray Thoughts:

(1) The music cover for the content warning is a Bop tbfh (like 4 seconds in)

(2) I know the robe is probably a bad thing but I am LIVING for the tired robe life. Reminds me of college student horse shit surrounding engineering finals (1:42)

(3) “It’s Virgil, everybody give it up for the purp man...” has me CACKLING (3:55)

(4) I do not LIKE the bastard man... But god DAMN does he look good in Green (6:22)

(5) When Duke said Thomas Lacked Imagination after knocking Roman out and then yeeted STRAIGHT into an Adam and Eve thing... Makes me wonder if he can control the Imagination too :/ (6:54)

(6) Ok as much as I don’t like the Duke he is just... a litel creatchure... he canot change this... (17:35)

(7) The duke is... Growing on me. Still doesn’t take Dee’s spot as my favorite, but he’s a Chaotic Neutral at its finest. (25-ish mins in)

Quotes:

"It’s Virgil.... Everybody give it up for the purp man...” -Thomas, un-enthused

"Roman is sort of like Netflix kids and family. He’s the option that you select if you want to--” “Block out all the juicy stuff!!!” -Logan & Duke

“Either way, you’re not my creativity.” “Yeah! That’s the brave, handsome, unbeatable ROMAN!” *Roman, still unconscious and mumbling things* -Thomas, Patton, and Roman

“There’s a snake in my butt!!!” -Remus

This was a super good episode!!! I really like Remus, even though he could, admittedly, be taken to be More Evil than Deceit currently is. I need to watch and re-watch the video to have more theories about it, but I am LOVING our newest side and I cannot WAIT for an episode with both Remus AND Dee in it. It’d be a pretty interesting episode!!!

- Mod Wheat

#Mod Wheat #ts spoilers

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five-hour-anxiety · 6 years ago

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Wanted Posters

Summary: Virgil’s room, as everyone now knew, amplified anxiety and presented it in the form of heavy eye-shadow. It’s because of this Virgil wants everyone to stay out, but Roman really wants those posters.

Taglist: @zerogettie @spacevirgil @tree4life25@thebiggestnaturaldisaster@pailettehazel @jordandobbertin@thecityofthefireflies @the-fabulous-kimball @azuranightsong @virmillion@erlenmeyertrash @irish-newzealand-idian-dutch @the-sanders-sides@punch-you-with-friendship @moonshadowsiren @clovenpinetree@jughead-is-canonically-aroace @aplaceinthevoid @that-random-fandom-girl@zennyo @unring-this-bell @liz-a-bell @vir-gull

Author’s notes: Like Signs of Respect, this fic was cowritten by @liz-a-bell. They’re a fantastic writer, you can find them on ao3 at writerwisegirl.

“Take it easy guys, gals, and nonbinary pals! Peace out!” Thomas cried, but before the

last syllables could leave his mouth, Virgil had already sunk out and down to his room. The entire video had been a bit of a Thing for all them, but Virgil didn’t really feel like participating in the inevitable group discussion turned into the sappy emotional...thing that the others (Patton) would want to initiate.

He had only just shared his name -- it would be some time before the walls came down enough to willingly share information about himself.

“Well, it’s just you and me,” He said aloud, looking around at the shadows in his room. “Maybe a spider or two.” He padded over the couch and yanked off a blanket, pulling out his phone and summoning his headphones.

It didn’t take long for the others to start showing up. Logan wanted his puzzle book back, and Patton had a card for him. Roman wanted his posters. Not going to happen, thank you very much.

So, that should have meant Virgil wouldn’t have any more visitors that day -- three whooshes, three visits, three other sides. Except things are never that easy, and he forgot to take into account Roman’s stubbornness.

“Hey, Twenty One Panics, I have a proposal for you -- make-up for the posters!” Roman sang, floating up into the room. “I don’t wear this dark stuff anyway -- I think it’s left-over from when Thomas was in Heathers? But here! Brand new, dark eyeshadow and a bottle of purple eyeliner I-” he waved his hand, “Just conjured up.”

“Roman, man, I’m not giving you my posters,” Virgil told him with a sigh. “Especially not for something I could just steal from you.” He added with a smirk.

“Steal?” Roman cried “Have you stolen my stuff before?” He demanded, affronted. Virgil just shrugged.

“Maybe, maybe not,” He hadn’t, but it was just too easy to mess with Princey. “Besides, look at it this way -- would you have missed the makeup if it were suddenly gone?”

“No, I never-”

“Then what makes you think something you don’t cherish would be a suitable trade for the posters I really like?” Virgil raised an eyebrow, kicking his feet up to the back of the couch. “Now, run along back the imagination -- Patton is making us have ‘family dinner’, so I’ll see you then.”

“And why should I leave without what I want?” Roman asked with a smirk. “They belong with me!” Virgil glared at him.

“Maybe because it’s my room and I want to be alone?” He suggested. When that got no reaction he tried again. “Because I’ll take off my headphones and make you listen to my “PG 13” music if you don’t.”

“Bold of you to assume I don’t listen to similar music in my off time,” Roman deadpanned, flopping down next to Virgil. He threw an arm over the other’s waist, effectively pinning him down. “Give me the posters.”

“No,” Virgil drawled, not even trying to wiggle out from under Roman. “Now get out of my room. You’ve thrown off the emperor’s groove.”

“Was that a Disney reference? No way am I leaving now, you just got infinitely more interesting!” Roman crowed, turning his head up to the ceiling. Virgil frowned at the new position -- he wasn’t able to see Roman’s eyes when he was laying on him like this.

“Roman, get off,” He growled, finding the strength to nudge him over the edge of the couch. “Please get out of my room, have you learned nothing from the last time you were here?”

“That was a one-time thing, and there’s no one here to feed off of! I am very good at keeping myself in check, thanks much,” Roman sat up, rubbing at his head. Virgil sighed at small black lines beginning to form under the warm, brown eyes -- the Prince may have had the others fooled, but he was no Deceit. He needed to leave -- now.

“Roman I’m not kidding -- you already have eyeshadow building up. Get out of here before something happens that I can’t fix.”

“Are you implying there’s something about me that needs to be fixed?” Roman shouted as his eyeshadow darkened to an alarming shade. Virgil groaned before scooping Roman up and tossing him over his shoulder.

“Out,” He said, throwing open the door and dumping the prince into the hall.

“Of all the indignities! I’m- oh.” Roman paused, hand coming up to touch Virgil’s face. “You- I can feel that my eyeshadow is gone but… but yours is lighter, too.” Virgil shrugged.

“What, you thought mine worked differently?” He asked, looking away. “It works the same as yours. And you were all upset and I was worried about that so….yeah.” He murmured, before shaking his head. “What were you thinking Roman? You know you can’t be in my room! That was dangerous and really, really stupid.”

“I…” Roman trailed off, biting his lip. “I’m sorry, I guess. I just-”

“Really wanted those posters?”

“No, actually. I just wanted to, I don’t know. It sounds ridiculous said aloud, but… I wanted to spend time with you. I want to understand you, and that’s hard to do when you’re constantly in your room.”

“You could have asked me to come out, you know.”

“Oh honestly, would you have left?”

Virgil blinked, unsure of how to answer. He settled on looking away, confirming what Roman already knew. A small, sad smile spread across Roman’s face before he stood up and dusted himself off.

“Well, see you at dinner, then.” Virgil watched him for a minute before speaking.

“Wait,” He said, taking a step forward. Roman looked back, his eyes hopeful.

“Yes?” Roman asked, turning as Virgil scrubbed at his face.

“If you really want to hang out I suppose we could do something,” He muttered, not looking at Roman. His own eyeshadow had darkened a bit at the idea, but he ignored it in favor of making Roman happy.

“I would really like that, Virgil. How about we talk about this more at a later date -- when we’ve both had a chance to recollect ourselves?”

“Sounds like a plan,” Virgil chuckled, turned back to his door. “See you later, then.”

Roman waited until the anxious side was behind the door and had shut it with a heavy thud before turning to walk back down the hallway. On the other side, Virgil stood with his ear against the door and listened to the retreating footsteps.

Turning away from the door, Virgil wandered over to his dresser and pulled out a half-finished hoodie. He held it up and smiled, before grabbing a needle and the last of the embroidery floss.

Maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but someday. Someday he’ll come marching downstairs in this hoodie, and Roman would cheer him on as they took on the world together.

He couldn’t wait for that day to come.

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No-one deserves to Fade away (Pt 6/9)

Summary: What if Virgil decided to duck out early, before the others knew him as anything other than the antagonist? How would it affect their relationships and what consequences would it have? An exploration of guilt and grief. It's mainly angst (do I write anything else? :) ) so don't read it expecting a lot of smiles. It starts after Losing my Motivation, after that, what is a canon timeline? Who's she? On Ao3 here

Triggers: Descriptions of violence, bullying, mentions of panic attacks, description of character death

Chapter 6

The next morning, three sides and Thomas have gathered to brainstorm thoughts for the next video. Claude hasn't arrived yet, but they've got a few ideas going and soon Thomas calls for a break. “We should call Claude to look over these.” Logan says. No-one calls him Anxiety. It seems like a betrayal. “Patton.” Roman smiles warmly. “Do you want to do the honours?” The moral side inhales a shaky breath and nods. Logan and Roman pull Thomas into the kitchen to fill Thomas in on the events of last night and to give Patton privacy. Also, most importantly, to fetch biscuits. Patton stands as soon as the door clicks shut. There's no point in overthinking it. Call Claude, start a conversation. He opens his mouth to say Claude's name when a strange idea hits him. That if he called for Anxiety, it might finally make it feel real. What could be a bigger sign to stop grieving for Anxiety than to call his name and have someone else appear?

It's oddly appealing. Giving himself the permission to move on like that. He sighs, without the energy to wipe away yet more tears. “Anxiety. Could you come here please?” he asks, staring at his hands. “Hey Morality.” His thoughts stop. That doesn't sound like... Claude knows his name, why would he call him Morality? Patton's head snaps up to see someone with a black hoodie and unblended eyeshadow. He screams and darkness claims him.

Thomas is arranging Oreos on a plate when he hears a scream. Plate still in hand, he sprints into the living room, stopping dead to see Virgil leaning over a limp Patton. Spots crawl across his vision and he steadies himself on the sofa. Logan and Roman crowd into the room behind him and he hears them gasp. Virgil looks up with a panicked gaze. “Why are you all so shocked? None of you faint!” He orders frantically. Patton groans on the floor and tiredly raises his head, freezing when he sees Virgil. “No.” he moans. “You're not real, I've spent too much time in the memory archives.” Virgil reaches for him, surprise clear on his face but Patton backs away, terrified. “I'm not... I'm real, I promise!” he babbles, looking over to the others. “Tell him!” “You're dead.” chokes Thomas, his thoughts numb. “I'm WHAT!” “If this is just some prank from Claude...” Logan threatens fiercely, his eyes strangely wet. “CLAUDE!!!” roars Virgil, and the other side appears swiftly in Anxiety's spot. “What did you do?” Claude smirks, looking very similar to the old Anxiety. “Taught 'em a lesson. They should've never treated us like that.” Virgil stares at him incredulously. “What did you do?” Claude shrugs unapologetically. “Told them you were dead. They appreciate you a lot more now, I made sure of that.” “What the fuck.” Virgil responds, quietly but with feeling.

“Virgil...” murmurs Thomas, convinced now that he's not going insane and his old Anxiety is actually here. Virgil turns on Claude, looking betrayed. “You told them my name?” Claude sighs. “That I am sorry for. I'm afraid I also organised our room.” Virgil looks horrified. “My room. It was organised!” “There were CD's on the floor!” “I knew where they were!” “Virgil.” says Logan faintly. “I would really appreciate an explanation.” “Ok.” says Virgil, rubbing a hand over his forehead. “Ok. So, after I got stabbed,” Roman makes a quiet noise of distress. “it was pretty hit and miss. Claude patched me up as best he could, before sending me off to my realm, the subconscious, where all that physical stuff doesn't matter so much and I could take the time to heal without worrying about Fading. But Thomas doesn't do so well without any Anxiety at all, so...” He gestures half-heartedly. “I asked Claude to step in for me.” Patton looks at the 'newest side' with wide eyes. “You told us you were the new Anxiety.” “Technically true.” shrugs Claude. “You told us Thomas' mind formed you after the old Anxiety Faded.” “Totally not true.” Claude reaches for an Oreo and Virgil smacks him. “I have a question.” Thomas raises his hand. “Shoot.” “Who... is Claude?” Virgil sighs. “I don't suppose I can tell you to table that for another day?” “No.” says Logan. “I don't think you can.” “Ok.” Virgil draws in a shaky breath and Claude rubs a hand over his back. “You can do this Virge. Remember your breathing exercises.” “Remember when Logic had rejected his emotions so fiercely and for so long that they were no longer a part of him? But Thomas still needed his emotional rationality-” “And my love of the logical mechanics behind cartoons.” interjected Thomas. “And puns!” “Yes, my love of wordplay was in there too, Patton.” Logan rolls his eyes, obviously a little uncomfortable. “Yeah, all of that stuff Logan couldn't accept about himself, formed it's own side, still based in Logic and with all his powers, but slightly separate from Logan cos he couldn't handle having it as part of himself.” “Emile Picani. He really helped some of my friends before Logan recovered enough to reabsorb him a few months later.” Thomas added. “I miss him.” Patton says, pouting. Logan pinches his nose and retorts. “He's still a part of me. He's still here.” “About that.” Thomas says. “I've been meaning to ask you if you'd be willing to play him in a new series.” Logan looks at him, evaluating. “Not... yet. Anyway, what does this all have to do with... oh.” “Oh, what? Finish your sentences Logan.” Patton shakes his head disapprovingly at the logical side. Virgil grimaced. “Yup, you've got it Logic. Claude is my... self-worth and basically anything that doesn't fit my dark persona.” “Including your good taste in music.” “Yeah, shut up Claude.” Virgil glares. “I'm still mad that you told everyone I was dead as some kind of twisted revenge.” He turns to Thomas. “He's got all my powers and shit so it should have been fine to leave him in charge while I was gone.” Claude smiles blithely. “So, uh, yeah, here's your, uh, actually I don't know what you are to Thomas? Princey's his self-worth. But, still, I present to you your Anxiety's self-esteem.” Virgil jazz-hands in Claude's direction, attempting some grand introduction but it only showcases how badly he's shaking. Thomas puts his plate of biscuits down and pulls Virgil into a hug. “It's great to have you back buddy.” Claude sneaks an Oreo but gets caught as Thomas turns to face him with Virgil still in his arms. He plays it off casually, twisting apart the biscuit in one smooth motion. “So. Emile was my emotional clarity, you are?” Claude lifts one shoulder in a half-shrug. “Eh, I guess you could call me your strength? I'm the part of you that acknowledges your anxiety, your fears, and pushes on through. Grit or courage or whatever.” He eats half his Oreo. “Blek, strawberry.” He then proceeds to eat the other half. Thomas looks at him oddly. “Ok. It's good to meet you, as yourself, I mean.” Claude nods. “Yeah, I'll act a bit nicer from now on. I was mainly pissed at you all for letting Virgil get hurt and I knew he would let you get away with it.” Virgil flinches against Thomas. “You didn't have to do that for me.” “It's because you think like that, that I did have to. Virgil, I'm your self-esteem, I'm designed to tell you when people are treating you like shit.” “I wasn't exactly the nicest either.” Claude shakes his head wistfully. “No-one was expecting you to be. We played the part we were given.” He spreads his arms, gesturing to himself. “And look what happened.” “I'm so sorry you had to do that.” Thomas says, cradling Virgil closer. “S'not your fault.” Virgil murmurs, finally relaxing and leaning into his host. “Neither is it yours Anxiety.” Logan says, looking at them both. “Sometimes, mistakes are made by everybody and no-one is truly to blame.” He adjusts his glasses. “I, for one, would like to start attempting to rectify those mistakes. May I join you?” He steps forward and woodenly slides in under one of Thomas' arms, laying a hand on Virgil's shoulder. “Ahhhhh! Family cuddle time!” Patton squeals. “Me four!” He leaps across the room and trips into Virgil's arms. “This is the second time I've caught you today. Do I need to wrap you in bubble-wrap?” The anxious side asks dryly, only half-joking. Patton doesn't respond but buries his face in Virgil's chest, shaking slightly. “I missed you... so much. It hurt when I thought you were gone and would never be part of the family. I guess I always thought I'd have more time to make friends with you.” He whispers. Shocked, Virgil folds his arms around the crying side speechlessly. Claude has no such issues. “You've got time now.” He points out callously, picking up another Oreo and inspecting it. “Strawberry.” He mutters to himself in disgust, shoving it in his mouth whole. “Yeah!” Patton cries enthusiastically. “We should get to know you properly too! Get over here so I can hug you.” Claude blinks in surprise but makes his way around the coffee table. He examines the group hug carefully and then turns to flop back against Virgil's side, leaning on him with all his weight. He fishes his sunglasses out of his jacket pocket and slides them on before relaxing completely. “You're heavy.” complains Virgil. “Deal with it.”

Some time later, Thomas withdraws from the hug. “So we want to get to know each other better, where do we start?” The others look at each other, unsure, before Patton pipes up. “Oooh, what about a board game!” “I do enjoy Monopoly.” Claude comments, still leaning on Virgil. “Don't!” hisses Virgil, moving away and letting him fall to the floor with a crash. “That game ruins friendships.” The response is a nonchalant hum from the ground. “Yeah, but we like it.” “There's a new stratagem for it that I have been wanting to test out.” Logan says thoughtfully. “Do I even have Monopoly?” Thomas pulls open one of his cupboards and rakes out several boxes. “Risk, Trivial Pursuit, Uno... aha! It's the Florida edition but I don't expect that matters.” “Perfect! I bagsie the puppy!” Patton cries. “Very well. I shall claim the battleship.” “I'd like the shoe.” “Ugh, how are we even the same person. The thimble's clearly the best.” “Ok, I guess I'll take the car.” Thomas sets out all the pieces, cheekily setting the car ready on a Chance. Logan sternly returns it to GO. “Oh, and Roman always has the top-hat, of course.” Patton says, fishing out the piece and looking up to hand it to the other side. “Roman?”

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#my writing #no one deserves to fade away p6 #sanders sides #sanders sides fics #virgil sanders #logan sanders #patton sanders #thomas sanders #angst #requiem au

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