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theliterarygnat · 7 months ago
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Reading Summary: 28. April, 2024 (The Hunger of the Gods, Chapters 12-28)
CHAPTER 12 | GUÐVARR Dreading this chapter hard. Hated the character so much in The Shadow of the Gods that I expect this to be as tiring as Elvar's chapters, if not worse. pg. 102 Okay, so this isn't all that bad, actually. I like how he is self-aware, for the most part. Would have loved for this to continue with Mord's death; he should've reminded himself that he killed Mord dishonorably. Mord was immobilized and vulnerable, trussed up by someone else. That was a coward's kill, an easy kill, and it would be nice to see Guðvarr have the balls to admit that to himself as well.
pg. 103 Was "and crotch" really necessary here? Really? I hope this is supposed to be foreshadowing something fucked up going on between Guðvarr and his aunt, because otherwise this just seems to be another instance of Gwynne's obsession with testicles.
Also, since the audience is used to italics being used to signify a character's unspoken inner thoughts, I don't think adding dialogue tags there is necessary, especially since it had been explained how and why Guðvarr does this. A better use of dialogue tags here would be giving an impression of what Guðvarr himself thinks about the habit and how it manifests. Like "he added bitterly" could help gain an insight into how he's feeling, or "his thought-cage supplied" implies that the insult was thought automatically and without Guðvarr's conscious input. Granted, my examples are shit, but I'm also not a published novelist or a writer. But if we are to use dialogue tags here, they should either add tone or add context; otherwise, 'he thought' is a waste of words. A reviewer on Goodreads did point out that Gwynne tends to overuse dialogue tags and I do agree. It is rather choppy and not really insightful when it comes to the tone or how the characters act, giving the dialogue a flat affect.
Worst thing is, Gwynne does drop the 'thought' dialogue tag further down this page, so I don't understand why he'd keep it here.
pg. 104 Ah, another instance where Gwynne reuses the same/very similar phrase very close together. This time it's "bound wrists and ankles". In the same paragraph no less…. divided by a whole one line…
How did Vol speak with such clarity if there was a gag in her mouth? Sólín gets "aksentéd dialogue" because she lost some front teeth but Vol just speaks perfectly well through either a rag or something else stuffed into her mouth? Nuh-uh.
pg. 105 They have the concept of hell? I mean, we didn't really hear about the afterlife these people believed in besides the Soul Road, but I find it strange that Gwynne didn't say 'Hel' or use a variation of any of the other underworlds that can be found in Norse mythos. It does feel like an oversight frankly. Also, "she-bitch" is redundant, since 'bitch' is already female by default, on account on being a female dog. "She-bitch" makes no sense; a 'she-devil' would have worked fine in this sentence, which makes me wonder if the original sentence was 'A she-devil from hell' that got clocked as too modern or unfitting for the setting, so someone during editing changed 'devil' to 'bitch', without taking the stupidity of 'she-bitch' into account.
Is Guðvarr a good man? No. Is he even all that complex? No. But somehow, he is more enjoyable to read than Elvar. Wow. I dreaded this chapter for nothing.
CHAPTER 13 | VARG So much leaping and howling. Are there really no other words you could have used?? Like 'Varg scrambled to his feet' or 'his blood boiled, a deep, beastly hiss in his ears' (which isn't even all that good) or 'Varg's blood gurgled in his veins, as though shaken by a wolf's growl'. Is that a little cheesy? Sure. But so's all the howling.
I don't know why exactly, but this chapter has been rather meh to me. Not necessarily bad, but lacking the charm that Varg's chapters are usually imbued with. It might be because of the action scene that took up most of it; though I did like the detail with the helmet strap being messed up again. It wasn't all that funny, but it did put a smile on my face.
CHAPTER 14 | BIÓRR pg. 120 Inconsistent hyphenation strikes again…
Also, again, because of who Elvar is as a character, I simply do not see why Biórr would fall in love with her, or care. Like he says, she was happy to live a slaver's life, and while he doesn't know what Elvar is doing now, there wasn't anything really worth liking about her before she became a typical conservative slave-owner. Biórr feeling regret or any emotional attachment to her honestly cheapens his character for me; I was in Elvar's head and there is fuckall going on there. What does he see in her? I feel like Gwynne wrote himself into a corner here a little. It's distracting that Biórr is longing after a cardboard-cutout of a slaver, but Gwynne also cannot really have Biórr thinking about what he likes about Elvar. It would give context to why he likes her, sure, but it also would distract even more from the story, and make Biórr seem weaker-willed than he already appears to me. Writing Biórr this way is a lose-lose situation in my eyes; Gwynne could have written a significantly more compelling character if Biórr truly was removed from the Battle-Grim on an emotional level. Gwynne already is competently writing Guðvarr (somehow???) so I think it would have maybe worked with Biórr.
I have to admit to a fault of mine in understanding the last chapter from Biórr's perspective, I think? I have thought that, at the beginning of Chapter 9, we have already crossed the Isbrún Bridge and left that region of Vigrið, mostly because of how time supposedly had passed. And I thought at the end of Chapter 9 that we were returning in direction of Oskutreð to kill Ulfrir immediately. But apparently not? I'm somewhat tempted to blame the text for being written awkwardly enough to lead me to that conclusion, but I think in this case I'm the idiot who just didn't understand. I'm taking the L on this one.
CHAPTER 15 | ORKA pg. 131 I do rather like the bit with Lif and Vesli. Lif has a solid characterization that goes really well with his background. Solid guy.
Although the prose with "a soft, sucking sound" was a rather awkward. The more I pay attention to Gwynne's writing the more I notice just how weak it sometimes can be. It's not the best to read, and it's not really imaginative. For example, in Varg's chapter, when they go into the meadow and there's sheep running, I would have loved for the environment to be better described. There isn't any atmosphere, any mood, any sense of the world or what it looks like; just character x and y doing things and events happening around them. Combined with the writing style, it doesn't paint the picture of a living world, nor is it particularly immersive. This book is already chunky and honestly maybe even clunky, and I do not believe the story necessitates the length.
CHAPTER 16 | GUÐVARR pg. 138 Ah, would yoou look at that? This ties perfectly into my point on the prose not being the best. We didn't need to be told that Guðvarr thought the italicized phrase and refrained from speaking it; one would imply the other. A better-flowing sentence would be "Guðvarr thought to himself, knowing better than to anger the hard-looking man with cold eyes and scarred hands."
pg. 140 The dialogue tags strike again. Too much 'said', too many tags in general. Also, instead of doing the stupid "'With my life,' Guðvarr said. Never with my life, he thought." why not just have it be "'With my life,' Guðvarr lied easily." If the dialogue tags weren't used so abundantly and awkwardly, then the original version would have worked; but because the dialogue tags already feel cluttered and clunky, this type of 'he said, he thought' combo is a little grating.
pg. 141 I. Don't know how I feel about the people of color in this world apparently being Slavic? Like I thought that they were described as 'darker-skinned' because they were tanned, their climate warmer, since there is much sun in the Balkans and Central Europe. But. 'Crow-black'? Not to mention the way their hairstyles to seem to me to be inspired by Manchurian queue (since the Cossack oseledets isn't braided like described in this book). This hodge-podge does make me rather uncomfortable. Like, if you are including people of color and want to give them "ethnic" names different from the "ethnic" names of Vigrið's people, then use the languages of the people that you based the aesthetics of the culture from, instead of pasting another ethnic group's culture on top?
pg. 143 Hmmm… I think that's a little redundant. There is already a clear implication that Guðvarr does not care what happens to the others as long as he's safe, considering he is "relieved that it wasn't him" who was to follow the Galdurfolk into the tower. I think that thought could have been shortened to "Or perhaps it won't, but truth be told I don't really care" without losing anything. In fact I think it would be clearer/less repetitive.
pg. 144 Damn. Did Guðvarr and Vafri fuck??? Poor girl.
Also, why write that sentence like that? Just ssay "The female Úlfhéðnar stepped closer to Skalk" instead of dividing it so awkwardly. It's such stilted prose.
pg. 145 Honestly, with how much attention Gwynne tends to pay to the every-day disgusts of medieval life, I'd have expected him to actually talk, or at least mention, the air being hard to breathe in Queen Helka's chamber, since the smoke from the torches cannot escape on account of the room being windowless. I'm actually a little hung up on that detail now. How are people there breathing?
CHAPTER 17 | ELVAR Elvar, how are you more frustrating and disgusting than Guðvarr?
I really don't want Elvar to take Agnar's place as the leader of the Battle-Grim. Without Grend her ass would be grass many times over; her achievements hardly feel hers when she'd been dead without an oathsworn protector to save her.
Also, the gods don't really have the presence of gods. It's part of them constantly transforming, for one, plus with how easy they are to resurrect and tame. Why is resurrection so easy, anyway? Why isn't there a bigger struggle, a greater sacrifice necessary? Why is magic just so easy?
pg. 159 Well, Elvar is not really proving Huld wrong with that petty ass attitude. I can see Gwynne trying to add depth to Elvar's character but that is in many ways too little too late. This growth, this depth, should have been present and explored in the first book, especially when the Battle-Grim were in Snakavik, where Elvar and her father could have talked, where Elvar could have proved better than Thorun, where Elvar should have been brimming with emotion and anger and rage and be constantly reminded of her past. But she wasn't. She was swaying and weak and considering returning until somebody else had to tell her that her father, whom she knew was a conniving and manipulative ass, was probably not being genuine in his offer. She also should have seen him handing her a warband just like that as an insult! He had not seen her in action, he knew nothing of her reputation; he just saw her with the Battle-Grim and leveraged her past and current desires against her. She should have been livid. She wasn't. She was tempted. And nothing happened between then and now to make her grow and suddenly gain this depth. This is an inept handling of her character. It reads more like a reaction to the poor reception Elvar's character got.
Frankly, if the first book had been a meal, Elvar would have been a medium-cooked, unseasoned chicken. Her portrayal in THOTG is the equivalent of being given a spoonful of salt and pepper after one already had been forcibly fed said chicken.
CHAPTER 18 | ORKA The banter is fine. Not the best, but fine, not as comedic to me as to the characters, which is alright. But god, the length of that sentence as Orka and Ingmar fought on pg. 168… no thank you. I did toy around with adding periods into it and frankly, it got better. Some 'ands' and -ing verbs can be removed or swapped out, keeping the speed of the action but making the passage less exhausting to read.
CHAPTER 19 | VARG Well, Varg, I hope you get to live up to that promise, and fuck Elvar the hell up if y'all ever meet.
CHAPTER 20 | ORKA Why are the brynjas always splitting and falling apart. No matter how well made they supposedly are, they literally never seem to offer any protection. Also, since most if not all Raven-Feeders proper are Tainted, why the fuck is it so easy for Vesli and Lif to kill one? We keep being told that the Raven-Feeders are a great danger, but on-page they are weak, constantly dying in greater numbers to lesser combatants. They feel like a joke; not like anything actually scary. It's difficult to take them seriously, and as such I don't really care when they appear on page. I feel no fear, no sympathy, don't see the stakes in the fights against them.
Also, the word 'land' exists. The word 'crash' exists. There is enough modern language that there is no need to use 'alighted' every single goddamn time Vesli or Spert land somewhere. It's repetitive and distracting with its frequency. It also lacks any mood or gesture. Do they land softly? Do they crash into bodies in a battle? Do they drop on the ground gracelessly? Everything is written so flatly, including much of the dialogue, which isn't even punctuated correctly. I feel like this book needed one more round of edits at least to make sure the grammar and punctuation were decent, the language more varied and captivating.
CHAPTER 21 | GUÐVARR pg. 186 Yeah, this really needed another editor just to check over the formatting and punctuation. There is a misplaced comma outside of the quotation marks during a dialogue. The flat affect is also at its highest hear. Everyone's bellowing and yelling and shouting, but there are no explanation points, creating a dissonance between the tone and mood of the dialogue and the dialogue tags themselves. It's rather unfortunate that the prose--surrounding the dialogue especially--is so weak here.
pg. 193 "palpable, like a physical thing" ah, yes, what wonderful prose; definitely not at all redundant and repetitive. Why is the writing so unimaginative ToT I'm fucking weeping. What is this??
CHAPTER 22 | ORKA Literally what is the reason for Vesli/Spert's dialogue being italicized only sometimes. Why is that not consistent.
pg. 200 If Myrk is smirking as she speaks, then there is no need to end that paragraph with "Another smile." since she is presumably smiling throughout the dialogue. It's so unnecessary. Likewise, there was no need to specify that Myrk was the one speaking. If Gwynne had used any other dialogue tag besides 'said', then perhaps that choice would have been justifiable. Maybe he wanted to add mood, establish tone… but no. 'said' is used, which is unnecessary and redundant here. As am I, with how often I repeat that something is redundant, but that is a testament to the lack of technical skill displayed in this prose.
CHAPTER 23 | GUÐVARR pg. 206 Too much 'follow'. I get what Gwynne wanted to achieve on some level, but it doesn't sound as good on the page as one might have hoped. It'd have been more fitting with a description of distance, giving us a mood and visual.
"Guðvarr followed, Yrsa close at his heels." this feels oppressive, like Yrsa is hounding Guðvarr, cutting off any escape with her body, not giving him a chance; an intimidation tactic.
"Guðvarr followed, Yrsa marching three steps behind." professional, at a distance, a cold disregard and hatred towards Guðvarr; or hinting at some different duty, perhaps there to stop Guðvarr from running away. I just think these two options would have been much evocative than "Guðvarr followed, and Yrsa followed him." Like, I get it, but getting it isn't good enough to excuse that flatness.
pg. 207 "Skálds" are capitalized, for some reason. That wasn't the case in the previous book at all, nor really in this book before now. The more I read the more does this book feel like an unpolished product. It really needed an outsider's eyes to catch on the formatting issues and the weird inconsistency going on.
pg. 208 "He felt Yrsa's presence behind him." "Guðvarr gulped, tried to take a step back, but Yrsa's solid presence was a wall behind him." "Guðvarr followed, a little reluctantly, but Yrsa's presence behind him felt like an unseen hand, pushing him on." In case you didn't get it, Yrsa's presence was behind him. Behind him was Yrsa's presence. Yrsa's presence behind him was. Yrsa's pres-
I stand corrected. My initial impression that Guðvarr was capable of self-reflection and had any cunning about him was entirely unfounded.
CHAPTER 24 | VARG See, because of how minimally the book is written, I cannot tell if the confusing description at the end is supposed to be this way for storytelling and mood purposes or if that's just how Gwynne would have written it regardless.
CHAPTER 25 | GUÐVARR The first fight scene I enjoyed! The writing really flowed well and didn't feel as repetitive as in other battles. There was this sense of swiftness and brutality, without anything being confusing. There was such clarity to the prose that I really could picture Taras the Bull on fire, the hole in the wall, the warriors piling in, Skalk's apprentices falling, and so on. I enjoyed the eagle's presence and the payoff to the focus on it the previous chapter. It was actually decently well masked what with the other monsters and critters around, but it was given enough special attention that I knew to expect something. Overall, this was truly a great moment and a fun segment to read.
It was fun to see the Iskidan people get proactive. They certainly have a lot of skill. I don't really care for the way Gwynne is portraying and focusing on Guðvarr's bodily fluids and reactions, but eh, mileage may vary. The way we saw Jökul's death from Guðvarr's point of view though… I actually really love this choice. Love to see how easy it was to recognize the characters, more by their weapons than appearance, but at least I knew who was getting their brains burst open with their own weapon. I cannot wait until Guðvarr finally dies…
CHAPTER 26 | VARG pg. 238 Not gonna lie, I did not actually remember or read who's descendant Æsa was, but I did remember that Fjalla the Mountain Goat was a god, so that… was not hard to understand. On one hand, the simile makes sense. Mountain goats are good at scaling mountains and cliffs. On the other… I dunno. I think I'm just not enjoying myself to the point where even fun prose and hints like this don't land well. I'm not saying this is bad, by the way; that's actually a fun way to work Æsa's divine ancestry into the descriptions! It's fitting and all. I just didn't care for it. Which sucks so much when I know it's actually competently done.
pg. 240 Another misnamed character moment. Instead of Svik and Æsa coming to Varg after he called them, it is apparently Varg that comes to himself with Æsa.
pg. 245 Oh, I absolutely love Einar getting bit in the leg! The fact two Úlfhéðnar tried to sink their teeth into him and only Varg succeeded is just chef's kiss. Love the reference/callback. I also think that if Varg's sister was alive (and who knows, mayhaps she is…) this would be a wonderful way of introducing her. The italicization of Úlfhéðnar is grating when the word is used so many times on the page though.
pg. 246 Damn. I really love the way Gwynne writes Varg figuring out and seeing that his ear was bitten off. I can't articulate why exactly, but there is a comedic timing to it; the slow realization of something being off, the snap to the Úlfhéðnar, the one-liner… I love it. It's so fun.
CHAPTER 27 | GUÐVARR Why is Guðvarr so important to Gwynne. A couple of chapters here and there, like with Biórr would have been fine, but the more I see this man, the more page time he consumes, the more I despise reading from his point of view. I enjoyed the first few chapters, was even pleasantly surprised; but Gwynne's presentation of Guðvarr is getting tired. I have the unfortunate feeling that Guðvarr is never really going to get resolved satisfactorily. There's just something about him that makes me think Gwynne will focus on Guðvarr long after the niðing drengr has overstayed his welcome, to such a degree where whatever is coming for him will feel like it's come too late narratively to feel cathartic in any way.
pg. 250 I am begging Gwynne to stop mentioning Guðvarr pissing and/or shitting himself every single godsdamned chapter. It's not even adding to Guðvarr's sorry, pitiful, pathetic characterization at this point. It's just another one of Gwynne's weird fixations, like testicles in the first book. It is not making any meaningful impact when it's used with such frequency; it grows annoying, borderline childish and immature. Much like Guðvarr's POV chapters turning into something grating, some of the "jokes" and "running gags", especially those related to Guðvarr, are being overused.
CHAPTER 28 | ELVAR Damn. Am I counting right it has been 11 chapters since we last saw her?
Also, the opening to this chapter is a little confusing but did not really have to be that way. We could have played catch-up with what had been going on with the Battle-Grim first, describing the camp, and then have Elvar go to Uspa; it would have flowed better and made more sense. Like, it's so weird that Elvar wakes Uspa up just to say "my thanks". Thanks for what? I'd be great to see the thought process there, see why it's being said. This isn't a strong start, to be honest.
pg. 259 Again, where was this characterization last book? Elvar has not done any deep thinking or reflection upon herself, her father, or anything from what the audience has been shown, nor was any of this part of her motivation last book. Where did this sudden spark of complexity come from? Elvar didn't even reject her father's offering because it had been an insult; she had refused it because Hrung told her "a wolf cannot become a lamb" and she realized her father was likely being facetious and trying to manipulate her! It wasn't about her reputation and earning her fame back then!
pg. 260 That prose would have been better if it was like this instead: "Elvar nodded, and as she listened, her hand wrapped around her sword hilt. She drew it a short way, checked that the blade was not sticking, and let it slide back down."
"Elvar nodded, as she listened her hand wrapping around her sword hilt, drawing it a short way, checking the blade was not sticking, then let it slide back down."
pg. 263 That. Actually pissed me off. On pg.259 we have the text saying "her injured shoulder". If that hadn't been there, then this would have made sense, and justified the strange opening of the chapter. I still don't think it had to start the way it did; Elvar could have, in her narration, be vague about the interaction, only putting "my thanks" into proper dialogue. Regardless, the fact that Elvar herself (since, while this is 3rd person POV, it is limited and thus the world is viewed through Elvar) refers to her shoulder as "injured" is deceptive. Did I pick up on the lack of pain? Yes. Did I assume it was done for brevity's and clarity's sake because of the line on pg.259? Also yes.
Worse yet, because of all the mistakes and awkward phrasing in this book I cannot even tell if Gwynne meant for that to be there, or if the "injured shoulder" was included in the text by accident. If it was purposeful, then it was deceptive, and frankly I hate the fact Gwynne resorted to outright lying to the audience here. I also personally do not find this particular scene to be interesting beyond the frustration it caused. I had hoped Huld would win when the holmganga was officially happening, but knew at once there were no stakes in this situation because it was "to the death".
I'd have preferred if Elvar didn't kill Huld; instead maybe forced her out of the holmganga spear-square, make her feel like a true leader. It had been noted that every good warrior counts. It should have been Elvar's priority to ensure that. But noooo. There is nothing cunning about her; not even the shallowest puzzle. At least Guðvarr is trying to manipulate people and get out of the shite he gets himself into, which shows at least some conniving, if not intelligence. Elvar doesn't even have that. It's hard to appreciate her healing her shoulder and creating an advantage out of it when the reader is lied to this way.
Okay, I am being facetious and purposefully exaggerating. Elvar's trick with the shoulder is smart though strangely conveniently timed. However, there is nothing about Elvar to like, nothing to be enjoyed about her. Even with the newer depth of her motivation with her father, she does not have any appeal for me and continues to be a weak character. If Elvar was smart and skilled enough to both win the holmganga and ensure Huld survives it, showing that she is serious about the quest to save Bjarn and cares for the Battle-Grim, I could have at least appreciated her as a leader. But Elvar doesn't show any true regard for the Battle-Grim around her, doesn't think about the future, their future, does not have the makings of a leader, which could have been her thing. It could have been her appeal. She is a shit person, a slaver, but she loves her fellow battle-brothers and battle-sisters, and she will keep them alive with brains and brawn at any cost, even when feuding with them. But this holmganga squanders that possibility, that complexity and appeal; and for what? Elvar could still have pulled the shoulder-trick to force Huld out of bounds and win.
Besides, why the hell did Elvar wait so fucking long before getting it healed? Uspa didn't seem tired or tuckered out by reviving a dead god at all; why wouldn't Elvar get herself up to fighting speed earlier, especially since she knew there would be difficult encounters ahead (such as the tennúr)? It feels like Gwynne just came up with this oh-so-very-cool idea for a scene and stuck with it even when it doesn't make much sense on this level.
I also think it's both funny and depressing that my first thought when reading this chapter was "oh god, another shit order of events" rather than "hmm, mysterious". Gwynne has failed to make logical progressions and sensible prose before (see: Orka's first chapter) so if something is worded vaguely I just assume it's another case of inept writing rather than a meaningful choice.
pg. 264 Misplaced quotation mark in Sighvat's dialogue.
I also don't really like the fact Ulfrir smiles at Elvar here. There is too much congeniality between Elvar and Ulfrir; I would have much rather the god not make any expression. After all, Elvar has enslaved him. This honestly adds to the lack of grandeur the gods possess. Skuld, Ulfrir, and Lik-Rifa both just… don't feel like much. The reader can see right through Lik-Rifa, and her threats are ultimately banal, lacking the 'deep-cunning' necessary to make her feel like a grand villain. The Raven-Feeders come off as pathetic and I cannot see them as ever having posed any legitimate threat. I would have loved if Gwynne actually made Lik-Rifa a loving, genuinely caring individual with extremist views, who would be kind to her followers, show understanding and sympathy, make her promises full of conviction. It would have been such a beautiful thing to witness a loving corpse-eating, starving, malnourished dragon god who, for all her flaws, truly loves her children, who have slaved over her freedom for centuries. It would have been so painful for Biórr and maybe others to realize that Lik-Rifa, as much as she loves them, is flawed and will not make the world better.
I can imagine a heartfelt, emotional, gut-wrenching scene of the Raven-Feeders, or perhaps just Biórr, taking part in the last stand against Lik-Rifa, crying because they truly love her: I want Lik-Rifa to be unwilling to fight and hurt her children, begging them to stop, asking why they've turned on her, and maybe have her kill Ilska and Drekr or someone, any dragonborn, and I want her to stop and take in that she killed her own child, and I want her to howl in despair and stop fighting back, letting herself be killed by her children; because now she is no better than Snaka.
Epicness of violence can only get this story so far when I don't like the characters. When there's no emotion to be felt or had. I'm quite pessimistic about the fact that, with the story as-written, Gwynne will not be able to top my emotional investment in a half-baked scene that doesn't exist in any tangible or meaningful way.
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pizzavorous-wolf · 4 years ago
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Update: Our beloved Bran somehow dissapeared (probably got tired of getting killed and then resurrected over and over again) and now my Dragonborn is stucked with grumpy lil Varg who wouldnt stop growling ALSO Serana hasnt attempted to murder him yet! There is still hope for this clown family! They can find peace and happiness at last!
Also random sabercat bursted into MY HOUSE and killed one of my daughter's pet rabbit - Serana immediately taking action as always and reanimating its corpse bringing it to a fierce battle of vengence againts that giant asshole and then it bursted into ash. Rest in pieces poor Cotton.
marriage with Mjoll:
-strong wife who carries Dragonborn in her arms - is nice to animals - drags Aerin the thirdwheel not only into your marriage but into your house as well - “Mjoll you weren’t supposed to see me murder him please talk to me” - likes watching kids getting strong - you give Dragonborn a weird look? well you better run because Mjoll is going to beat you so badly
marriage with Serana:
- always happy to be around Dragonborn - cool hoodie to hide her crimes of killing innocent animals especially Dragonborn’s fifth dog - doesn’t know how to act around kids - likes to flex her necromancy skills by killing random running fox and then resurrecting it - will do the weirdest shit when Dragonborn has to listen to boring dialogue - likes to dance and help Dragonborn by blocking path to the interaction and doing the interaction herself
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broken-endings · 7 years ago
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Things I want in the Cinderella Phenomenon fandom
basically fic and/or art ideas i wish existed
feel free to use my ideas to fuel your creativity, cuz i can’t promise i’ll write or draw any of it.
SPOILERSSSSS
in which these are mostly just summaries of DARK ALTERNATE UNIVERSES WHERE AT LEAST ONE OF THE CHARACTERS SUFFER
my 3rd one, a waltz route AU is almost long enough a summary to be a fic itself. but it’s still just a detailed summary
I call the princess MC here cuz I didn’t use her given name in my playthroughs. I renamed her Reese. so to avoid confusion, hence MC
Fritz route AU:
MC memories erased again by her mother, and she falls in love with Varg.
byebye fritz. i like me some angst and dark stuff.
MC trains under her mother and Mythros. Mother supports her relationship with Varg. The four of them manage to repel any attempted palace invasions by the good guys. happily never after.
Fritz route AU 2: (might as well call them both varg routes)
dubcon relationship–fritz is gone. there’s only varg. MC is gradually pulled in my Varg’s repeated advances, all of them similar to the time Varg kissed her in-game, though they get progressively more forward and intimate over time.
After enough of these occurrences, it gets to the point that she starts to welcome them in contrast to her feelings of hopelessness with everything else and everyone else in the palace.
He’s the only one who “honestly” pays attention to her amidst the queen’s new evil regime. She feels coldness and distance from everyone except Varg, and forgets what true love and trust is supposed to feel like, and believes those are the things she develops with Varg. But rather than that, he’s just her escape. And he’s the only escape she’s allowed from her mother’s new and improved iron fist ruling.
Waltz route AU: (aka: hello darkness my old friend) this one is LONG
MC ends up being the one who had to kill her mother which corrupts her magic, but no one realizes this. It “corrupts” very gradually in which it isn’t entirely noticeable to anyone. It first manifests in minor excusable instances that could be chalked up to the MC having a bad day, or some other minor explanation. And these instances are spread out over a long enough period of time that they feel like isolated instances. Maybe she “didn’t get enough sleep.” Or “such and such happened yesterday.”
Waltz moved into the palace after the MC was crowned queen and she progressively finds ways to spend more and more time with Waltz, and less and less time fulfilling her role as queen. Which isn’t too hard to do, considering the kingdom is in a fairly peaceful state, almost a year since her mother’s real death. In the early stages of their royal relationship, Waltz might offhand remind the MC she had some kind of work to be done, but his feelings for her are just so strong, as are hers for him. They’re like two opposite poles, unable to resist the magnetic pull of the other.
Whenever Waltz and the MC are alone, due to the heightened emotions they share, especially during the early “honeymoon period” of their relationship and living together, sometimes their magic reacts to each other. Like an unintentional static shock, but with magic. After enough of these instances, they decide to just have fun with it. These little magic sparks become an extension of how they physically interact with each other, like their magic naturally intermingling in the air becomes like a second set of hands for both of them, and they know how it feels to touch the other’s magic with their magic, it becomes an extension of their bodily senses which excites them.
Because of the strange intermixing of their magics in times when they’re alone, the corruption slowly growing in the MC infects Waltz as well. By the time Waltz starts to exhibit noticeable behavioral changes, the MC is already down a dark path, which both are blind to. And if anyone dares to question something one does, the other is right there to defend them. At this point they spend almost no moment apart. They travel as one and are constantly whispering to each other and flirting. Being that the MC is the bearer of the tenebrarum, once the pull of corruption is strong enough to be noticed by people through her actions, it’s strong enough for witches to feel that power and corruption. The MC and Waltz have devolved into an impatient and selfish couple, wanting nothing to do with anything that disinterests them. And they’re disinterested by everything except their love for each other, and their magic. Anything or anyone that tries to get in the way of either of those things meet grimmer and grimmer consequences.
And I didn’t think of a way for this to be a happy ending. I mean, the game already gave us the happy endings. So here’s more angst. Because Fait wasn’t the one to kill Hildyr in this AU, she didn’t fade away. So that rag tag group of former cursed and co., get together to figure out what is happening, and how this happened. It takes them way too long to figure out that the source of it had to be the MC killing her mother. “But why is Waltz affected too?” “it’s hard to say.” “they’re nigh inseparable.” “that could be part of it.” "they’re always using magic together.” “i don’t think we’ll ever fully understand how it happened. we just need to figure out how to undo it.”
To add more angst, and danger to good people, Mythros didn’t die in this AU. When he senses the disturbance from the crystal he becomes gleeful and immediately goes about seeking out its source. Much to his surprise the source is the murderer of his beloved teacher, “the traitorous daughter”. But he’s always been a sucker for serving power, and the MC and Waltz are where the power is.
Now, without his interference, the MC and Waltz probably would’ve remained merely cruel and disliked, but they didn’t actively harm anybody. They just didn’t help anybody either unless it got them something they wanted: i.e. magic or gifts for each other.
But Mythros likes to interfere, especially if he thinks he can gain something. When he first appears before them, he’s met with identical visages of disgust, and he prostrates himself at their mercy. “How dare you show your face here” “i should just kill you right now. i never wanted to see you again, Myth. Why are you here?” He spins a bunch of convincing BS to stress how everything he did was horrible and he has no right being here. They can kill him if they want. He does stress he’ll accept any punishment they see fit, but that, should they wish it, he could see to ALL administrative duties, he’d do all the work for them to run the kingdom, without every being allowed to make the decisions. He can read the atmosphere between them. “The two of you never have to spend another moment of their precious lives overseeing a trivial matter. You can be off with each other doing whatever you like,” and he would see to it to enforce their rulings. Any communication he’d need with them would be as brief as possible. He wants to make their lives as easy as possible because they deserve happiness for all he and “you know who” put them through. He’d bear the consequences by serving them.
To two corrupted people who are currently far more interested in looking at each other than being stopped to think about and manage hundreds or thousands of people’s lives, this proposal is incredibly tempting. And seeing how they’ve been fulfilling every temptation they come across, after a few nonverbal interactions where the give each other looks, the MC grants Mythros’ request. But he will be under constant guard. He isn’t to go anywhere unattended, or leave the palace. “You are more than merciful, your majesty. I know I don’t deserve it. But I will do my best to earn it.”
And from that point on, the corruption stewing in both of them evolves more rapidly than it had in either of them since the MC was first corrupted. Anybody trying to garner a conversation with EITHER of them was met with deaf ears. One of them would respond but neither of them were really listening. This goes for all the questions and topics Mythros brings to them to manage the kingdom. It takes no more than 2 interactions with them for him to figure out that he could potentially say anything and control things by predicting their answers. And he did just that. His guard was also witness to their approvals or disapprovals. Sometimes the MC would have to stamp something but they never really read it.
With Mythros’ hand now in play, the kingdom was changed more and more to his liking, which wasn’t too different from Hildyr’s liking. Maybe a little tamer than her vision, but still terrible. And he could tell that after accepting his proposal that the growing power in both of them surged in such a sudden growth that he could feel his own power increase merely by proximity to them.
LONG STORY short. Thanks to Mythros’ interference, the MC and Waltz become an indomitable magic force, just being in each other’s presence makes their magic resonate with each other. Almost all of their spells are cast in unison, stronger than any one witch could ever be on their own. They know each other so well half their conversations are unspoken, even in battle. They fight like it’s a dance they’ve done a thousand times. Their old friends try to “save them” but their combined trance seemed like no other. Their corruption, absolute. Isolating them from each other didn’t do any good because of how connected by magic they were. The heroes’ last resort was destroying the lucis, but mythros was one step ahead in protecting his well of power. The MC and Waltz never know that anything was done to Fait to prevent such actions. They’re too preoccupied with preparing for their wedding.
SOOOO yeah. depressing. but i love that dark shit. i think i was semi inspired by spike and drusilla from buffy. i just love villainous couples in love
Waltz route AU 2 (i love him to death. so apparently that means i want to see him suffer???more???i blame that evil bad end of his that was too fucking tragic and very brief)
This is basically. “What if the moment everyone thought Waltz’s curse was broken, it was all a mirage, and Mythros used a glamor to trick everyone into believing he was the newly restored, full grown Waltz?”
With help from other witches loyal to Hildyr he also concealed the existence of still 12 years old, real Waltz. He’s stuck under a glamor that makes him invisible and incorporeal to everyone else. Walking around and seeing and hearing everything that’s happening but unable to communicate or be seen or interact with anything.
Waltz still follows the MC everywhere, and politely averts his eyes whenever necessary so as not to feel creepy, even though no one could ever know that he’s watching.
Still cursed Waltz is stuck watching Mythros pretend to be him, and fool all their friends and allies. And fool the MC, his love. It isn’t fair.
He can still see Mythros as he is, and if he looks hard enough he can see a hint of his glamor, making him look like Waltz.
Psychological torture for young Waltz as he can only look on while Mythros infiltrates his family and friends, waiting for the perfect moment to strike.
He alternates between hopeless and silent watching, and desperate pleas for someone to hear or see him. “SOMEBODY, anybody”
slightly different timeline in that the MC and her father aren’t held captive after Waltz’s curse breaking. They escape, but everything away from the palace unfolds pretty much the same.
Waltz route AU 3 (this is a solid variation of the idea above)
The moment Waltz breaks his curse and returns to his original form, Mythros uses the chaos to switch bodies and uses magic to knock his own body unconscious so Waltz can’t alert everyone.
It’s Varg’s job to see to Waltz stuck inside Mythros and stall and contain him in the palace as long as possible.
Inside Waltz’s body, he gets to feel the attention and affection of the MC, which distract and daze him. He’s falling a bit in love with her too, to the point that he resents not being in his own body.
It’s only when Waltz inside Mythros’ body escapes and attacks that it comes to light that Waltz was Mythros ever since leaving the castle. “SWITCH US BACK” Mythros’ voice called out, glaring daggers at Waltz who looked shocked and slightly confused. He’d been too preoccupied with the MC, and tries to slink away from the fight, which gives himself away to everyone in that it couldn’t be Waltz in Waltz’s body because he’d never slink away like that, especially from Mythros.
Mythros hates seeing the MC’s face in reaction to this revelation. He doesn’t understand why she affects him so.
one sided pining of Mythros for the MC
i might add more AUs
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