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idk what legal dramas y’all are getting your information from but prosecutors are not universally bad and defenders are not universally good. assigning someone a moral value based on their job title usually results in little more than mischaracterizing a complex and multifaceted human being.
#the lawyers working the jan 6th trial? prosecutors.#the attourneys who got amhaud arberys murderers put away for life? prosecutors.#the guy who got oj simpson acquitted? defender.#y’all gotta have room for complex thought in ur brains
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TUE JAN 28 2020
Adam Schiff appears to have been right yesterday, when he said the leak of the Bolton manuscript had blown a hole in the President’s defense, because today... the second full day of that defense in the Senate, they cut it unexpectedly short... at the end, yielding back seventeen full hours of the time which had been allotted to them by the rules.
I didn’t get a chance to see it, but from what I’ve heard, it was basically just arguing that John Bolton (former hero of the Bush Neocons, and revered by the Tea Party as well) can’t be trusted, because he’s a disgruntled former employee with a book to sell... followed by doubling down on the Dershowitz (criminal defense adviser for both OJ Simpson and Jeffrey Epstein) interpretation of impeachment which essentially says... Presidents can’t be impeached for anything, ever.
He admits that he didn’t used to think this about Clinton, and that today, no constitutional scholars agree with him... but he’s still right... because he thought about this matter a lot guys! A lot!
They then ended with some talk about how impeachment is hell and just shouldn’t be done anymore ever again... and then some kind of video montage of Democratic Senators from December of 1998 talking about how that impeachment was a bad idea... before resting their case.
Apparently this final video montage drew some muted laughter from those in attendance... and much mockery on social media.
I mean, sure... the left has, for months, been playing old 1998 clips of Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell and even Dershowitz, to expose their hypocrisy in the present day... but that doesn’t quite work the other way, because the Clinton impeachment was founded on lying about a blow job.
I mean... If Lindsey Graham felt that lying about a blow job was not too minor a matter to impeach a president over... then surely he should feel that extorting a military ally who is in a war against Russia, to throw an election... would also be fair game.
On the other hand, if Jerry Nadler in 1998 thinks Clinton shouldn’t be removed from office for lying about a blow job... it does not at all, in any way follow, that he should also not want Trump removed for extorting a military ally who is in a war against Russia, to throw an election... and also obstruct the shit out of congressional oversight.
And to imply that the two things are somehow interchangeable... is not only insulting to even the intelligence of small children... but, laughable.
It was very much unlike the eloquent closing arguments of the prosecution last week, which went viral on social media, even as Congressman Schiff was begrudgingly congratulated by those on the right, for being so well spoken.
Later in the evening, news broke that McConnell does not, as of the time of writing, have the votes necessary to prevent witnesses from being called... something he sadly figured out during a meeting with his caucus after the defense had rested their case.
So is the needle shaking? Yes... like the needle of a gauge on top of a pressure cooker that’s getting ready to blow.
The next phase of the trial is going to be a bunch of written questions from Senators for the prosecution and defense, which Chief Justice Roberts has requested they keep to questions that can be answered in like five minutes.
After that, then there will be votes to either conclude the trial, or move on to another phase of witness testimony, etc.... expected to happen on Saturday.
So, we still have three long days, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, for things to shift and change.
Maybe McConnell can manage to dial down the burner under that pressure cooker, and bring this whole thing to a conclusion on Saturday, with an acquittal of Trump, just two days before the State of the Union Address.
But McConnell doesn’t really have any control over that burner knob. The flame’s been cranked up by developments which are wholly outside of his control... the Parnas tapes, the Bolton manuscript, Trump himself issuing blunt threats against those involved... and three days is enough time for more damning developments to break.
It’s difficult to speculate about what’s going on in the minds of those GOP senators who aren’t yet willing to vote against witness testimony, but here are some things they should be thinking about...
1) Acquittal effectively destroys congressional oversight forever, over any future president... and in fact destroys impeachment itself as a remedy for a rogue president.
The only way that isn’t a terrible mistake, is if Trump remains president for life, much like Putin, Kim Jong Un, and Xi Peng are now. In other words... the goal of acquittal would be to deliberately nullify our democracy in favor of a dictatorship... now... when the dictator in question is of their own party.
Rather than being a far fetched conspiracy theory... this is in fact, exactly how democracies around the world have died many times in the past. It would simply be a case of history repeating itself, this time in America. And thus, it’s almost a guarantee that at least some faction of the current Senate, is consciously striving for that outcome.
The problem, however is... for that to work, Trump needs to win in November... something that’s going to be a lot more difficult to do, even if he cheats his ass off, because the rest of the government, the press, and the public, are now on very high alert to the danger.
And if Trump doesn’t win... well, they just handed that dictatorship over to the enemy party. So now they’re really fucked forever!
On the other hand, if they vote to remove Trump, but he does squeak it out to become the dictator... then they’re really fucked forever!
Such is the whirling dervish of second guessing that can arise, as soon as you even entertain the idea of departing from a common sense interpretation of the constitution... the one that you swear to defend upon taking office... the one you swear to defend when being an impeachment juror.
2) Looking bad to history isn’t just about being frowned upon long after your death anymore. There are things called movies... many of which will be made about this insane chapter in our history... which will come out long before you’re dead.
What actor will play you, and will they be a villain?
Well, unless Emperor Trump for life cracks down on all media with an iron fist, imprisoning any producer who would dare to make anything but pro-regime propaganda... odds are, if you vote to acquit... you’ll be played by an ugly actor portraying you as the caricature of cowardice and closed minded idiocy.
Unless you’re Mitch McConnell... in which case it will be an ugly actor portraying you as the caricature of evil incarnate, hell bent on burning down American democracy from the inside, no matter what the cost.
3) Even if the above two items seem too outrageous to be worthy of consideration, I still fall back to my original point from several entries ago... that Trump is a loser.
Since he’s been in office, all the governors and congressmen he’s stumped for have lost their contests... in many cases to dark horse Democrats in regions that seemed solidly Red.
He was trounced in the mid-terms, losing the House in a blow out not seen since the last days of Nixon, and then... after Replacing Sessions with Barr as AG, and defeating the Mueller probe... still managed to get impeached on a completely different matter!
How will he screw up an acquittal? Because he will... the day after he gets it. And that’s gonna come back to haunt you on election night.
He is a third rate thug who got lucky in 2016. He is still a third rate thug today, and his luck ran out a long time ago. You’d be an idiot to back him now.
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Again, like I’ve said before... eject this loser now, and the GOP has the whole rest of 2020 to rally around Pence, and talk about how it was sad, but Trump had to go, because he took it too far... lost his way... lost sight of the good... wasn’t up to the stress because of health reasons and got a little bonkers... huh?
No matter how you dissect it, this does all boil down to a moment of reckoning for the Republican Party. Either be swallowed whole by the extreme right, or eject them, by ejecting their chosen demagogue.
And by extreme right, I mean conspiracy theory loving, xenophobic, morons in favor of idiotic trade wars, ballooning deficits, anti-education, anti-environment, pro-Putin and other dictators, anti-NATO, and... in the final analysis... just plain anti-constitution, in everything it spells out and stands for.
Eject them and rebuild the party on it’s old foundations... or be ejected by them, and watch as they burn that grand old party to the ground, in the name of reactionary rage, and nothing more.
That seems like a good enough place to leave it tonight.
I’m going to bed.
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O.J. Simpson Granted Parole | Hollywood Reporter
http://styleveryday.com/2017/07/20/o-j-simpson-granted-parole-hollywood-reporter/
O.J. Simpson Granted Parole | Hollywood Reporter
“I basically have spent a conflict-free life,” the disgraced former NFL star said during his televised hearing on Thursday.
A gray-haired O.J. Simpson has been granted parole after serving more than eight years in prison for a botched bid to retrieve sports memorabilia in Las Vegas. The former NFL star pleaded with a Nevada parole board Thursday to set him free after insisting — as he has all along — that he was only trying to retrieve mementos stolen from him and never meant to hurt anyone.
The board decided unanimously that the 70-year-old former football, TV and movie star will be released in October after serving his minimum term for armed robbery and assault with a weapon.
Simpson responded emotionally, saying, “Thank you, thank you, thank you.”
Four parole commissioners in Carson City questioned Simpson by videoconference from the Lovelock Correctional Center in rural Nevada. He has been held there since he was convicted in 2008. The conviction came 13 years to the day after he was acquitted of murder in 1995 in the deaths of his ex-wife and her friend in Los Angeles.
The former football star was looking trimmer than he had in recent years when he walked briskly into the hearing room, dressed in jeans, a light-blue prison-issue shirt and sneakers. He laughed at one point as the parole board chairwoman mistakenly gave his age as 90.
Simpson said he never pointed a gun at anyone nor made any threats during the crime that put him in prison, and he forcefully insisted that nearly all the memorabilia he saw in two dealers’ hotel room belonged to him.
“In no way, shape or form did I wish them any harm,” he added, saying he later made amends with those in the room.
He said he has spent his time in prison mentoring fellow inmates, often keeping others out of trouble, and believes he has become a better person during his time behind bars. He said he took an alternative-to-violence course in prison.
‘I’ve done my time,” he said. “I’ve done it as well and respectfully as I think anybody can.”
A vote in his favor would enable Simpson to get out as early as Oct. 1. By then, he will have served the minimum of his nine-to-33-year armed-robbery sentence.
The Hall of Fame athlete’s chances of winning release were considered good, given similar cases and Simpson’s model behavior behind bars.
His defenders have argued, too, that his sentence was out of proportion to the crime and that he was being punished for the two murders he was acquitted of during his 1995 “Trial of the Century” in Los Angeles, the stabbings of ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman.
Reflecting America’s enduring fascination with Simpson, several major TV networks and cable channels — including ABC, NBC, CNN, Fox, MSNBC and ESPN — carried the proceedings live, just as some of them did two decades ago during the Ford Bronco chase that ended in Simpson’s arrest, and again when the jury in the murder case came back with its verdict.
Simpson said most of the objects taken in the hotel heist were personal property, including letters from celebrities, family photos, certificates of accomplishment and more. Items that were not his, including autographed baseballs, were taken by others in the rush to get out of the room, he said.
He added he realizes he made a terrible mistake bringing along two people with guns, adding if he had gone to the room by himself he could have resolved the matter without a problem.
Simpson said if released he plans to return to Florida, where he was living before his incarceration.
“I could easily stay in Nevada, but I don’t think you guys want me here,” he joked at one point.
“No comment, sir,” one of the parole board members said.
Inmate No. 1027820 made his plea for freedom in a stark hearing room at the Lovelock Correctional Center in rural Nevada as four parole commissioners in Carson City, a two-hour drive away, questioned him via video. The board was expected to make its decision later in the day.
An electrifying running back dubbed “The Juice,” Simpson won the Heisman Trophy as the nation’s best college football player in 1968 and went on to become one of the NFL’s all-time greats.
The handsome and charismatic athlete was also a Monday Night Football commentator, sprinted through airports in Hertz rental-car commercials and built a Hollywood career with roles in the Naked Gun comedies and other movies.
All of that came crashing down with his arrest in the 1994 slayings and his subsequent 1995 trial, a gavel-to-gavel live-TV sensation that transfixed viewers with its testimony about the bloody glove that didn’t fit and stirred furious debate over racist police, celebrity justice and cameras in the courtroom.
Last year, the case proved to be compelling TV all over again with the ESPN documentary O.J.: Made in America and the award-winning FX miniseries The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story.
In 1997, Simpson was found liable in civil court for the two killings and ordered to pay $33.5 million to survivors, including his children and the Goldman family.
Then a decade later, he and five accomplices — two with guns — stormed a hotel room and seized photos, plaques and signed balls, some of which never belonged to Simpson, from two sports memorabilia dealers. Simpson was convicted in 2008, and the long prison sentence brought a measure of satisfaction to some of those who thought he got away with murder.
One of the dealers robbed, Bruce Fromong, planned to attend the parole hearing, saying he and Simpson had made amends and that he intended to speak in favor of release.
A Goldman family spokesman said Goldman’s father and sister, Fred and Kim, would not be part of the hearing and feel apprehensive about “how this will change their lives again should Simpson be released.”
The now-retired district attorney who prosecuted Simpson for the heist, David Roger, has denied Simpson’s sentence was “payback” for his murder acquittal. He has also said that if Simpson behaved in prison, he should get parole.
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OJ Simpson granted parole in robbery
LOVELOCK, Nev. — O.J. Simpson was granted parole Thursday after more than eight years in prison for a Las Vegas hotel-room heist, successfully making his case for freedom in a nationally televised hearing that reflected America’s enduring fascination with the former football star. Simpson, 70, could be released as early as Oct. 1. By then, he will have served the minimum of his nine-to-33-year sentence for a bungled attempt to snatch sports memorabilia he claimed had been stolen from him. During the more than hourlong hearing on live TV, Simpson was, by turns, remorseful, jovial and defensive, heatedly insisting the items taken in the armed robbery were “my stuff.” At one point, the murder defendant in the 1995 “Trial of the Century” set off a storm of sarcasm and incredulity on social media when he said, “I’ve basically spent a conflict-free life, you know.” All four parole commissioners who conducted the hearing voted for his release after a half-hour of deliberations. They cited, among other things, the low risk he might commit another crime, his community support and his release plans, which include moving to Florida.
Former NFL football star O.J. Simpson reacts after learning he was granted parole at Lovelock Correctional Center in Lovelock, Nev., on Thursday, July 20, 2017. Simpson was convicted in 2008 of enlisting some men he barely knew, including two who had guns, to retrieve from two sports collectibles sellers some items that Simpson said were stolen from him a decade earlier. “Thank you, thank you, thank you,” Simpson said quietly as he buried his head on his chest with relief. As he rose from his seat to return to his prison cell, he exhaled deeply. Then, as he was led down a hall, the Hall of Fame athlete raised his hands over his head in a victory gesture and said: “Oh, God, oh!” Simpson was widely expected to win parole, given similar cases and his good behavior behind bars. His defenders have argued, too, that his sentence was out of proportion to the crime and that he was being punished for the two murders he was acquitted of in Los Angeles in 1995, the stabbings of ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman. Inmate No. 1027820 made his plea for freedom in a stark hearing room at the Lovelock Correctional Center in rural Nevada as the parole commissioners questioned him via video from Carson City, a two-hour drive away. Gray-haired but looking trimmer than he has in recent years, Simpson walked stiffly into the hearing room in jeans, a light-blue prison-issue shirt and sneakers. He chuckled at one point as the parole board chairwoman mistakenly gave his age as 90. Simpson insisted he never meant to hurt anyone, never pointed a gun and didn’t make any threats during the holdup of two sports memorabilia dealers. “I thought I was glad to get my stuff back, but it just wasn’t worth it,” he told the board. “It wasn’t worth it, and I’m sorry.” Even one of the dealers Simpson robbed, Bruce Fromong, testified on his behalf, telling the parole board that Simpson deserved to be released so he could be with his family. “He is a good man. He made a mistake,” Fromong said, adding the two remain friends. Arnelle Simpson, at 48 the eldest of Simpson’s four children, told the board, “We recognize that he is not the perfect man.” But she said he has been “a perfect inmate, following all the rules and making the best of the situation.” “We just want him to come home, we really do,” she said. The commissioners said the murder case played no role in their decision, though a majority of letter writers opposed to Simpson’s release asked the board to take it into account. Among those angered by Thursday’s decision were Goldman’s father, Fred, and sister, Kim. “The Goldmans are devastated,” said family spokesman Michael Wright, adding they didn’t want to say anything more. Simpson said that he has spent his time in prison mentoring fellow inmates, often keeping them out of trouble, and that he has become a better person behind bars. “I’ve done my time. I’ve done it as well and respectfully as I think anybody can,” he told the board. Asked if he was confident he could stay out of trouble if released, Simpson replied that he learned a lot from an alternative-to-violence course he took in prison and that in any case he has always gotten along well with people. Several major TV networks and cable channels — including ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox, MSNBC and ESPN — carried the proceedings live, just as some of them did two decades ago during the Ford Bronco chase that ended in Simpson’s arrest, and again when the jury in the murder case came back with its verdict. Simpson said if released he plans to return to Florida to be near two of his adult children. “I could easily stay in Nevada, but I don’t think you guys want me here,” he joked at one point. “No comment, sir,” board chairwoman Connie Bisbee replied. Authorities must still work out the details of Simpson’s release with Florida officials, including where he will live and what rules he must follow. An electrifying running back dubbed “Juice,” Simpson won the Heisman Trophy as the nation’s best college football player in 1968 and went on to become one of the NFL’s all-time greats. The handsome and charismatic athlete was also a “Monday Night Football” commentator, sprinted through airports in Hertz rental-car commercials and built a Hollywood career with roles in the “Naked Gun” comedies and other movies. All of that came crashing down with his arrest in the 1994 slayings and his trial, a gavel-to-gavel live-TV sensation that transfixed viewers with its testimony about the bloody glove that didn’t fit and stirred furious debate over racist police, celebrity justice and cameras in the courtroom. Last year, the case proved to be compelling TV all over again with the ESPN documentary “O.J.: Made in America” and the award-winning FX miniseries “The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story.” In 1997, Simpson was found liable in civil court for the two killings and ordered to pay $33.5 million to survivors, including his children and the Goldman family. Then a decade later, he and five accomplices — two with guns — stormed a hotel room and seized photos, plaques and signed balls, some of which never belonged to Simpson. Simpson was convicted in 2008, and the long prison sentence brought a measure of satisfaction to some of those who thought he got away with murder. Click to Post
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O.J. Simpson Parole Hearing: NFL Star Makes Case for His Freedom
http://styleveryday.com/2017/07/20/o-j-simpson-parole-hearing-nfl-star-makes-case-for-his-freedom/
O.J. Simpson Parole Hearing: NFL Star Makes Case for His Freedom
“I’ve never been accused of pulling a weapon,” the former NFL star also said during his televised parole hearing on Thursday.
A gray-haired O.J. Simpson pleaded with a Nevada parole board Thursday to set him free after more than eight years in prison for a Las Vegas hotel room heist, insisting — as he has all along — that he was only trying to retrieve mementos stolen from him and never meant to hurt anyone.
The former football star, looking trimmer than he has in recent years, walked briskly into the hearing room dressed in jeans, a light-blue prison-issue shirt and sneakers. He laughed at one point as the parole board chairwoman mistakenly gave his age as 90.
Simpson, 70, said he never pointed a gun at anyone nor made any threats during the crime that put him in prison, and he forcefully insisted that nearly all the memorabilia he saw in two dealers’ hotel room belonged to him. “In no way, shape or form did I wish them any harm,” he added, saying he later made amends with those in the room.
He said he has spent his time in prison mentoring fellow inmates, often keeping others out of trouble, and believes he has become a better person during his time behind bars. He said he took an alternative-to-violence course in prison.
‘I’ve done my time,” he said. “I’ve done it as well and respectfully as I think anybody can.”
A vote in his favor would enable Simpson to get out as early as Oct. 1. By then, he will have served the minimum of his nine-to-33-year armed-robbery sentence.
The Hall of Fame athlete’s chances of winning release were considered good, given similar cases and Simpson’s model behavior behind bars.
His defenders have argued, too, that his sentence was out of proportion to the crime and that he was being punished for the two murders he was acquitted of during his 1995 “Trial of the Century” in Los Angeles, the stabbings of ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman.
Reflecting America’s enduring fascination with Simpson, several major TV networks and cable channels — including ABC, NBC, CNN, Fox, MSNBC and ESPN — carried the proceedings live, just as some of them did two decades ago during the Ford Bronco chase that ended in Simpson’s arrest, and again when the jury in the murder case came back with its verdict.
Simpson said most of the objects taken in the hotel heist were personal property, including letters from celebrities, family photos, certificates of accomplishment and more. Items that were not his, including autographed baseballs, were taken by others in the rush to get out of the room, he said.
He added he realizes he made a terrible mistake bringing along two people with guns, adding if he had gone to the room by himself he could have resolved the matter without a problem.
Simpson said if released he plans to return to Florida, where he was living before his incarceration.
“I could easily stay in Nevada, but I don’t think you guys want me here,” he joked at one point.
“No comment, sir,” one of the parole board members said.
Inmate No. 1027820 made his plea for freedom in a stark hearing room at the Lovelock Correctional Center in rural Nevada as four parole commissioners in Carson City, a two-hour drive away, questioned him via video. The board was expected to make its decision later in the day.
An electrifying running back dubbed “The Juice,” Simpson won the Heisman Trophy as the nation’s best college football player in 1968 and went on to become one of the NFL’s all-time greats.
The handsome and charismatic athlete was also a Monday Night Football commentator, sprinted through airports in Hertz rental-car commercials and built a Hollywood career with roles in the Naked Gun comedies and other movies.
All of that came crashing down with his arrest in the 1994 slayings and his subsequent 1995 trial, a gavel-to-gavel live-TV sensation that transfixed viewers with its testimony about the bloody glove that didn’t fit and stirred furious debate over racist police, celebrity justice and cameras in the courtroom.
Last year, the case proved to be compelling TV all over again with the ESPN documentary O.J.: Made in America and the award-winning FX miniseries The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story.
In 1997, Simpson was found liable in civil court for the two killings and ordered to pay $33.5 million to survivors, including his children and the Goldman family.
Then a decade later, he and five accomplices — two with guns — stormed a hotel room and seized photos, plaques and signed balls, some of which never belonged to Simpson, from two sports memorabilia dealers. Simpson was convicted in 2008, and the long prison sentence brought a measure of satisfaction to some of those who thought he got away with murder.
One of the dealers robbed, Bruce Fromong, planned to attend the parole hearing, saying he and Simpson had made amends and that he intended to speak in favor of release.
A Goldman family spokesman said Goldman’s father and sister, Fred and Kim, would not be part of the hearing and feel apprehensive about “how this will change their lives again should Simpson be released.”
The now-retired district attorney who prosecuted Simpson for the heist, David Roger, has denied Simpson’s sentence was “payback” for his murder acquittal. He has also said that if Simpson behaved in prison, he should get parole.
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