#sja spinoff

[sixseasonsofodestawithatardis]

Was listening to ‘Destination:Wedding’ in the Rani Takes on the World: Beyond Bannerman Road box set and this sprung to mind!

[doctorwhoisadhd]

another unhinged doctor who watch order:

watch absolutely every story of doctor who, torchwood, sja, and class, in broadcast order, except you ONLY watch the stories that involve suicide in some way

[walks-the-ages]

Since we're on the subject K9 shows, look what I found on the web archive!

The original pilot episode for "K9 and Company" (1981) that never made it past the pilot episode, of Sarah-Jane Smith and K9 meeting and teaming up, eventually finally seeing screentime together in the 2007 "Sarah Jane Adventures" show!

[all-mirth-no-matter]

Ok so first episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures and I’m already way more hooked than I was with Torchwood. Luke is baby boy who I would kill for and Maria is so adorable and brave. And Maria’s mom sucks and her dad is hilarious and already vibing him and Sarah Jane.

[dailyclassicwho]

so I’ve started series 2 of sarah jane adventures and actually, it’s improved a lot since the first episode. imo, I thought the episodes until Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane were a bit of a chore to sit through but after it’s consistently been a very entertaining little kids show!

[verloonati]

Question for dw fans, where does the doctor who canon starts and end for you? Each response include all response above them

[adventure-showdown]

hold on, I want to see how difficult its going to be for classic who/the eu as the competition goes on

also, this isn't a judgement in any way, i purely want to assess what has a chance against what, personally i've not quite worked my way through all of classic who yet, and there's I think one EU thing on the list I actually know, although i would like to get properly into it if i ever have the time

[thefiresofpompeii]

watched the mad woman in the attic. maybe i’m babybrained cocomelon brainrotted or something but why is this legitimately better than torchwood like?? or at least equal to it in complexity and subtext.*

but jesus christ… what a message about possessive friendship and the inability to let go — the parallels between eve mind-controlling the homeless people to do her bidding because she “just wants friends”, sam doing the same to rani (thinking she abandoned him after he stopped being her only friend, and trying to guilt-trip her into coming back) and rani doing the same to the bannerman road gang (becoming overly paranoid and gaslighting herself into believing she’s not good enough for them because they dare mention maria). THREE LAYERS of mirroring… “maria’s the new sarah jane” being salt on the wound of rani’s aspirational “sarahjaneification” … parallels with martha’s early-s3 complex of being unable to live up to rose, too …

^the ship interface is saying this about eve, but it can just as well be interpreted in a metaphorical sense: rani is a child trying to be an adult, rani is trying to become sarah jane, and it will hurt her. funny how the ghost of doctorification haunts the narrative even in his absence, it’s that powerful. The Doctor is a sort of memetic virus that is passed down from mentor to student, and although its intensity diminishes over time, it can still be fatal. gwen wants to imitate jack harkness. jack harkness wants to imitate The Doctor. rani wants to imitate sarah jane. and sarah jane wants to imitate The Doctor

^eve’s Not-Regeneration — proof of convergent evolution among time-active species? river song’s existence says “yes”. potentially, exposure to the vortex itself gives you the “golden energy emanating from your outstretched limbs” perk

also, from a lore perspective… eve’s species are fascinating aliens. a time-sensitive AND time-active people that’s not connected to the timelords in any way, we don’t see that nearly often enough! as for their backstory (being subject to a genocide as collateral damage because a race that can see the outcome of a conflict is dangerous to both warring parties), that’s definitely a main-show rather than kids-spinoff type concept. wonder what they were doing during the War, not the war on their planet, but the universe-spanning one. judging by the capabilities of their spaceships, the time technology they used is pretty advanced. eve may have been lying by omission: maybe the species that genocided them were none other than the residents of a certain planet that tries by all means to maintain a monopoly on time travel. they don’t like other species messing about with the web that they so carefully wove… ah, now THAT’S a plot seed for a short story in a faction paradox anthology if i ever saw one

Old Rani’s plot was also all incredibly 73 yards. the more i watch, the more i realise just how intertwined ruby sunday’s story so far has been with various callbacks and parallels to sja… it’s gotta mean something? something something trickster pantheon something somehow one who waits

*i almost hesitated to post this because the internet Hates people that analyse kids’ media with any degree of sincerity (im usually toeing the line anyway; the main show isn’t really Aimed At Adults either. which we sometimes forget)

[sometimesraven]

I think, instead of the weird RTD-Can't-Stick-To-An-Ending "let it go" metacrisis 'resolution' it would have been so much more satisfying and bittersweet for them both to go "yeah, we know this will kill us eventually, but we'd rather be complete and happy than safe and empty"

It would add a lot more to the trans plotline too. If The Doctor were to be like "the metacrisis is going to kill both of you eventually" and Rose was like "Maybe. But we don't know how long that will take -- it could be a whole lifetime away. I'm finally myself and I'm not letting that happiness go."

How sweet would that be? Being openly trans is dangerous. It could get us killed at any moment, but we'd rather spend our short lives complete and happy than deny who we are and be miserable.

and then we could have a SJA style DoctorDonna spinoff where she and Rose use their unique part-time-lord abilities to save the lives of ordinary people on Earth

[tastetherainbow180]

So how are we feeling about the new Doctor Who spinoff show. I'm excited haven't watched one since the sja.

Can't wait to watch Kate Stewart for multiple episodes❤️

My girl is going to kill it!

[fanonical]

so there's a big finish sarah jane adventures spinoff about rani

which, if (like me) you see sja as more of a k9 and company spinoff, makes it a spinoff of a spinoff of a spinoff of doctor who

[pilotheather]

we're back

youre trying so fucking hard to set up this unit spin off. im going to be horribly honest with you: i dont really care, and i think this is such a corny way to do it. i think torchwood (the show) is something people see with rose-tinted glasses a lot of the time, but i do think its slower introduction to the characters, completely isolated to its own tv show, made more sense. i feel like this weird vibe of just setting up these big personalities who all neatly fit into the exact archetypes you'd Expect... i dont know. i dont care for any of them. i love big weird non human robot-adjacent entities and i dont even care. and that fucker has cable-like tentacles too. i should be sold.

i think its also cuz they are like so obviously these Scifi archetypes for shows like this which is fine but leading first with a quickfire round of rather than getting a softer introduction to them just sort ofmakes them feel like fake cartoons. i think thats sorta why ive never truly warmed to paternoster gang too.

like i think my issue - and im welcome to be proved wrong, whenever we do get this unit spinoff - is i feel like its leading with the idea of "i want a spinoff" first rather than an attempt to fill a specific niche or hole for stories. i feel like sja and torchwood were both very specifically shows that would be in the universe, but would cater to things that would not suit the proper show, and had their own cast driving it.

like i'll be honest i like kate but ummmm im not sure i like her enough to follow her into a spin off. LOL.

sorry thats my hater era over im 2 seconds in

oh no nevermind i also hate big budget takes itself too seriously bullshit wheres the losers

is rose still meant to be like 15. her in business casual for the day job at unit.

okay The Vlinx.

WHYS THERE A LITTLE BEEFCAKE SECURITY GUARD. IS HE LIKE YOUR LITTLE BOYTOY, UNIT? sorry hes not even my typ. harriets really cute though

sorery i still dgaf

rtd and his anagrams. christ.

ive been laughing all day about a reddit comment that said "rtd is a" and i cant stop laughing at it and i dont know anyone who will find that funny in my life so i cant even

WHY ARE THEY JUST FUCKING

SORRY THATS SO FUNNY THEY WERE LIKE LETS QUICKFIRE ADDRESS THE STUPID MYSTERY BOXES. SUSAN. TARDIS... S TRIAD.... SUSAN AGAIN.

i really fucking hope it isnt susan. people have said it before but i just feel like ive always liked the idea of jsut leaving her be. dont revisit it. its fine.

sorry help me why are they just pulling everything out help me

i feel like theyre trying to be too meta about it and not in like a clever way its just like a lets state the obvious to everyoneits that vclassic TELLING NO SHOWING that i feel like christ it keeps ... feeling like the writing is doing that so much

CAN ANYONE TALK ABOUT HOW NCUTI LOOKS IN THE LEATHER JACKET BTW?

soery its like not even 10 minutes in and im like already feeling like a hater i just i dont know i feel like so im fine with them cashing in on nostalgia and being a bit self aware in finales sometimes but i feel like this and then the trilogy last year... LOOK most dw finales and special eps of the nu era are kind of rooted in some sort of classic right its like dalek dalek cyberman master dalek lets go to gallifrey for this one but its like still at least one thing sorry im sick of it i dont wanna see mel any more i dont wanna be in unit CAN WE FOLLOW THE DOCTOR AND RUBY see them figuring it out PLEAAASEEE they can point out its obvious its fine but the fucking round table discussion

SORRY I KNOW ITS BEEN THE HOT TOPIC ITS LIKE THE WAY THIS SEASON HAS GONE TOO FAST CUZ ID SAY A LOT OF THE EPS WERE GOOD IN THE END BUT ITS LIKE SO MANY OF THEM WERE TOO HARD DEPARTURES FROM WHAT WE REALLY NEED WHICH IS JUST

TIME WITH RUBY AND THE DOCTOR . PLEASE.

nevermind i love mel on the moped

ugh ive been wanting a bike for so long but i keep hjearing about so many accidents i wanna kms in a controlled environment

my second thought btw: i think one of my favourite season finales will always be s4's. and yes that does also bank on this big, lets have ALL OF THESE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER!!! and have one huge crossover event even if the story isnt as good. but as ivealways said: that works because its earned through four seasons of building up all of those individual characters. it can stand on that legwork thats already been done. i just dgaf otherwise. its why, and maybe this is controversial, i can never give a shit about a good man goes to war. (although i also loathe that because that storyline does my fucking HEAD IN)

im also hating this so hard im not even far enough in sorry i just love to hateeeeeeeeeee

help e christ if it wasnt for reddit i would not fucking recognise anyones fucking face is hat the same woman i mean rby also isnt clocking her does she have some fucking perception filter on . missus flood what is up with you

missus flood what even is wrong with you

"why did you never go back to see her?"

because susan was lowkey annoying af

SORRY

SORRY WOMEN

i also do wanna know: if hes mentioned her face popping up a lot, are they not scanning their fucking databases for matches. like thats definitely technology they have. lets be so for real

AGAIN SORRY THE OTHE RTHING I HATE ABOUT IT IS THE TIME SINK IT IS GREAT LETS HAVE OUR INTRODUCTIONS AND HAPPY WOOPEEEES AND MEETING THE TEN BILLION FUCKING PEOPLE WE'RE BRINGING ALONG WHEN THEYRE REALLY NOT ENRICHING THE EPISODE AND ITS JUST WEARING EVERYTHING SO THIN DUDE COME ON OH WAIT HANG ON LETS INTERRUPT THE FLOW AGAIN TO BRING IN SOMEONE ELSE AND STOP IT!! EEEENOUGH!

(again with the way s4 finale was handled: i think it was really good the way they had everyone sort of... separated out? they had them all cleanly following their own plots. so it didnt make shit a fucking mess.)

caralas literally chill w can bring carla

Do you have a time window. Ten floors down. classic shit.

i think i also ironically did i say this bit already i fucking hate trying to do big... sci-fi organisations like this trying to fight the aliens or villains or whatever. sorry just a taste thing. like compare this to how torchwood was presented in s2. it just feels like we're thriving in it and im not a fan of them being our unapologeticbesties we swing around and giggle with. can we get some nasty fucking vibes in here please. i loved when capaldi was a cunt with them.

this is also why i refuse to ever engage with the avengers content

christmas eve 2004. god shesso young. (im 4 years older literally).

sorry i also hate mystery box companion bullshit fuck off can we not just get some cunt from the local

SORRY I JUST THINK RTD FINALES ARE SO BADLY CAMP SOMETIMES

i keep thinking about how she looks like jodie i think its the boots with the ankles sort of poking out

thats my bad aura sorry i was hating too hard

NOT THE BOYTOYS

THEYRE PICKING OFF THE BOYTOYS

theres that irony again of like they'll sit there and do a whle bit like haha duh ofc we know its an anagram DUHHH but then half the dialogue is just fucking . SAYING SHIT STRAIGHTFORWARD AND OUTRIGHT SHUT UP

hes in hell. god damn it. i hate it when i lose my boytoys and he ends up in hell

imagine if this was the beast from the satans pit

what a hilarious hater moment that would be

sorry now I- UMMMMM THE BOYTOY IS DUSTTT AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

colonel winston is making me giggle. lke the monkey. guys i dont know anything abou overwatch but that monkey makes me laugh

guys we're on susan watch

shes going to be the dumbest red herring ever isnt she amen shes just nothing please rtd you fuckerr- DOCTOR CALM DOWN

CAN WE GET HIM A FUCKING STIM TOY

CAN WE GET HIM A BLUEBERRY MATCHA

CAN WE GET HIM SOMETHING TO COPE WITH

so cool we brought an image of this thing up before and it wrecked our shit lets do it again hell yeah come on

harriet i need you

SHES NOT HER ITS SO FUNNY

EVERYU TIME SOME CRAZY BITCH NAMED SUSAN APPEARS DO YOU DO THIS.

BRO DOES THAT MEAN THESE GIRLIES WRE CONNECTED HELP ME IMAGINE IF THAT WAS SUSAN AND NOW SHES JUST STUCK WITH THE FUCKING MEMORIES OF RAISING LINDY. COME ON SUSAN. BREAK THE FUCKING TRAUMA CYCLE. YOU DIDNT NEED TO RAISE HER LIKE THAT MAN.

can we get the tardis a ginger ale

THAT FUCKING CAMERA ANGLE BEING A FAKEOUT FOR A FUCKING RUBY SUNDAY THIS WHOLE THING IS A TV SHOW SHTICK IS SO FUNNY ACTUALLY

SUSAN TRIAD DOING THIS IN AN EMPTY CROWD IS SO FUNNY

SUSAN TRIAD YOU HAVE TO GET IT TOGETHER GIRL THEY'LL BE CLIPPING BITS OF THIS ON TWITTER

the king innit

HARRIET ARBINGERRRRRR YESSSSSSS

SLAYYYYYYYY

NEVERMIND THAT BIT GOT ME A PRETTY WOMAN WILL GET ME SOOO EASY

TRICKSTER MENTION IS INSANE

her children doubt and dreaddddd so silly

WHOS THIS HATER

SUTEKH

THATS SO FUCKINGH FUNNY

HUNDREDS OF REDDITORSARE PUNCHING THE AIR. MAYBE EVEN TENS

I LOVE HOW IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT

SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH RUBY

HELP ME I SPENT SO LONG BEING A HATER I DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT SUTEKH SORRY CLASSIC FANS

ANYWAYS

[doctorwhoisadhd]

you know what? i was just thinking and literally every episode with the trickster's brigade in it involves suicide somehow

whatever happened to sarah jane? (sja): andrea has to CHOOSE to die to go back on her deal with the trickster. you actually SEE her smile at sarah jane and then let go on purpose in order to fall to her death (this was a kids show)

turn left (doctor who): the right-donna has to kill herself in order to get past-donna to turn left instead of right — not only killing herself but meaning that she never existed in the first place

the temptation of sarah jane smith (sja): its quite literally basically like, yeah, sarah janes parents definitely crashed the car on purpose. and like, they never actually SAY it that obviously but they DO definitely CHOOSE to get in the car knowing they have to crash to set things right (again. this was a kids show)

the wedding of sarah jane smith (sja): again, peter dalton, like andrea, has to CHOOSE to go back on his deal with the trickster, probably the weakest example but like, he is still definitely CHOOSING to die instead of live

immortal sins (torchwood): this is actually somehow the ONLY one where the answer to "how do we beat the trickster" is NOT suicide, which is so wild considering that THIS is the gritty adult spinoff. no, the trickster they beat just fine. jack just decides to kill himself in order to (quite literally) ghost angelo with the most possible emotional torment

[theangelshavethephonebox]

Every doctor who spinoff has the "evil person who's romantic with your coworker/friend attacks you or your loved ones causing your coworker/friend to suddenly not have you in their life after they mistreated or didn't value you enough"

Doctor who (the original version of this): Master imprisons Martha's family, leading her to leave the Doctor

Torchwood: John Hart, Jack's ex, imprisons Jack and his actions lead to Tosh and Owen's deaths (and no you cannot convince me that Jack was always a good boss who valued his employees)

SJA: in "Mona Lisa's Revenge", the curator (Harders) didn't value his assistant, Phyllis, and she was imprisoned by Mona Lisa (who Harders was basically in love with), leading Phyllis to reject Harders

Is there one for Class? Or any audios y'all can think of?

[sandymybeloved]

non SJA fans:

I had to cut from this, the episode that was just the main characters' anxiety dreams, the second episode ending with an alien child begging for his life than dying horribly, whatever was going on in the woman in the attic, and probably a bunch of others that slipped my mind

[dandelioncasey]

Tagged by @aspecbuddie ✌️ thanks for the tag, these are always fun!

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Shuffle your on repeat playlist and list the first 10 songs!

(there is no rhyme or reason to this this playlist is just my favourite songs lmao)

Love Story But It's Gay (Reinaeiry)

Don't Make Me (Malinda K Reese)

Not My Father's Son (Billy Porter + Stark Sands)

It's My Life (Marny Kennedy)

1000 Light Years Away (Chelsea Lee Greenwood)

Storm the Castle (Jonathan Young)

Twenty Something in Twenty Nineteen (Kira Kosarin)

Neath: A Fallen London Musical (The Stupendium)

Drinking Song For The Socially Anxious (The Amazing Devil)

I Am Not Nothing (Beth Crowley)

What does this selection say about me? I don't know! Would I recommend every single one of these songs? Absolutely!

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Your top 15 favourite shows can say a lot about your personality (list your top 15 shows)

(no idea what order these go in, what they say about me, or if I even have fifteen favourite anything to be honest - let's go!)

9-1-1

9-1-1 Lone Star

Criminal Minds

Hannibal

Sarah Jane Adventures

Torchwood

The Witcher

The Sandman

Supernatural

The Magicians

Teen Wolf

Shadowhunters

Buffy The Vampire Slayer

White Rabbit Project

Cook At All Costs

Honestly I would only recommend maybe three of these at most lmao, I never said I have good taste! (but seriously i grew up with SJA and it sucks that barely anyone has heard of it in comparison to the other spinoffs)

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