#sheva is the same age as sherry lets remember this

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why are resi fans allergic to looking up character ages i just saw Ieon x sheva

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Piers was ordered/forced to bring Chris back?

So I keep seeing folks trying to displace some/any of the blame on Chris being dragged back into the field in RE6 the way he was, off of Piers, as if he was merely following orders, but the files in RE6 suggest that is not the case. 

Nowhere does it say the higher ups demanded his return. In fact, in both the original text and the English localization, Piers is only told Chris could be of help depending on his “situation,” and to bring him to China if reasonably possible. 

Chris Redfield File excerpt

Bio6

A B.O.W. similar to the "J'avo" has been confirmed in the bioterrorism in China. The strength of the North American Alpha unit is indispensable with its combat experience against the J'avo.

I heard the report on your discovery of Chris Redfield. Depending on his situation, he'll no doubt become a major force in the recovery team. Please head to China with Chris Redfield as soon as possible."

“Depending on his situation...”

“Please....”

RE6:

We've got reports of J'avo-like B.O.W.s which your team has had experience with before.

We also heard that you've run into Chris Redfield, so if you can, take him with you to Lanshiang. He could be a big help.

“...if you can...”

So while they were banking on the NA Alpha team’s experience with J’avo, they didn’t require Chris simply come along. There’s also nothing about the methods Piers employed to bring Chris back the way he did.

Piers Nivans file

Bio6

As it is, I think if we allow him to gain experience, he could be made into the formal Captain of Alpha in the future, but Piers seems to think it's just a recovery team for Chris. Though we allowed him to search for Chris with agents, he finds time on his own to fly around Eastern Europe looking for Chris. For Piers, there can't be a BSAA without him. He'll find Chris as soon as possible"

RE6:

It's been about a month since Piers took over command of Alpha team and he's doing an excellent job. He's not as strong a leader as Chris was, but he's definitely up to standards. I wouldn't mind making him Alpha team's permanent captain, but I think he would rather see Chris return for the job. He really looks up to him. Probably feels like the BSAA isn't the same without him.

Let's hope our agents in eastern Europe find something on him.

^Piers was allowed to look for Chris with others, but also CHOSE to look on his own. We also know each branch offered to assist him in finding Chris (Sheva contacted HIM to offer her branch’s assistance for example). He wasn’t seen as being as good as Chris, but a senior officer felt that he had potential to take over the Captain role for good. They observe Piers likely doesn’t want to lead, and assume he is more concerned about Chris taking his position back. This would prove to be true in the main game, when Chris tells Piers he is going to retire after helping Jake and Sherry, and wants him to take his place as Captain. Same could be said for the moments after Chris decided to bring up Wesker to Jake, and didn’t care if Jake killed him, so long as Jake promised to live.

There honestly will never be a valid excuse, as to how Piers approached him in the bar—given Piers was made aware of exactly what Chris had been up to, how he behaved, and the fact he didn't remember anything. The way he approached Chris did NOT show a person who gave a crap about Chris as a individual—beyond the fact he wasn’t acting like himself. He was totally aware of the fact that Chris had endured many tragic events, and harsh battles, since age 25. Instead it shows someone with an unhealthy view of Chris, and his duty. Placing Chris on a pedestal, and having high expectations of him, and expecting him to live up to them.

Piers mentions bio-terrorism, and Chris has an image of Finn flash, that caused a painful trigger for him

Piers’ reaction?

“You can’t hide from your past Chris. No matter where you go, or what you do.”

Chris feels uncomfortable, and asks who he is, and what is this all about. Piers’ reaction?

Like, “Oh, you don’t remember ME? Oh I got something for you.”

Chris started to look down and around, and Piers was getting pissed he wouldn't look.

Piers tells Chris who the men were, and how they died under his command. How he owes it to them to remember.

Piers gets all pissed because, he devoted all that time to find Chris, and he found his legendary hero like this. Nevermind how Chris has BEEN feeling, or what he must've been going through ALONE all this time. Like did it ever cross Piers’ mind to WONDER or even ASK himself why Chris fled that hospital? And what kills me is this trash ass story tried to VALIDATE Piers, by having Chris say later on (even AFTER LEON got through to him with REASON *props to Claire for making that a possibility*) he WAS running from his past...that he couldn't actually remember. He didn't even know who HE was. 

I’ve seen so many individuals dismiss the mental health of Chris, to continue and try to validate this shitty treatment of someone who’s been traumatized MOST of his damn life, especially over death (you know that came to a head in RE5 when Jill sacrificed herself?). Some people glossing over it so much, they have said they don’t like Chris, and/or he SHOULD have been the one to die instead of Piers, especially when they get in their feels about Piers’ death. Hell I’ve seen some even say Chris was actual trash, judging him SOLELY on when he was piss drunk, and without knowledge of who he was, but still shipped him with Piers, just cause. Though it’s nothing new or unique there.

All this talk about how the world’s about to end, so who cares about Chris’ mental health when the stakes are high. Like wtf even? The stakes are always high! So it’s better to enlist someone who’s unstable, and traumatized by what happened to and around them, and then TRUST them to lead others? We see how well that turned out didn't we? Things hadn't even fully escalated globally yet, and what really killed me, was you still saw Piers being more happy to simply have Chris back on the field. He was even talking about how he just assumed Chris would be rusty, and when Chris did magically get ALL of his memory back (from one triggering image on the field), suddenly you see Piers excited because Chris is remembering what happened. Like, “OMG Chris is back!!” His IDOL is back! 

That excitement didn't last long, as Chris cut him off, only to ask about ‘Ada’s’ whereabouts, and suddenly Chris decides he’s taking charge, and it’s very obvious Chris isn't giving two shits about what’s going on. Piers even seems to sense something is off about him, but just goes along with that Sir/Captain stuff, because “He’s back!” and Chris is this big/intimidating guy. Piers and the others would see Chris acting irrationally, and because Chris is “fearsome” to even Piers, continued to let Chris pull rank and have the others fall in line with him, even when he brought up things of concern (like how Neo-Umbrella was pursuing Jake and Sherry...Jake whom both knew was a person of interest to the US Gov’t, and Sherry, who Chris knew “all about” from Claire...his sister). Shame you don’t see Piers having considered beforehand that if Chris got his memory back, he’d probably feel some type of way about what Carla did and said to him. That it would be something personal, since you know it’s HIS responsibility that they make it out alive. 

My issue isn’t that Piers felt like Chris belonged in the BSAA, was a hero, and was ‘needed,’ but his unhealthy hero worship, how despite being in Chris’s position as a captain for several months, knowing CHRIS felt his responsibility was to see EVERYONE make it out alive, how he witnessed Chris being physically stunned, and in denial about his team being a lost cause, knowing bits and pieces of Chris’s story, etc, etc...it felt like he was more concerned about his idol being back, than the well-being of Chris. If Chris was that necessary to see something get done (nevermind other capable agents out there, some whom Capcom’s own text has claimed were just as good as Chris and Jill), then it doesn’t make the BSAA sound good at all. 

All of the constant guilt-tripping clearly wasn't effective, only pissed Chris off more, and didn't resolve anything. Why fan the flames, when you know Chris is a hothead? When you can see he’s operating out of blind vengeance and not caring about their goals? It is literally no wonder that Leon is the one who got Chris to begin to see the bigger picture. Leon brought up facts and reasoned with him, and shut Chris down on all of his issues and intentions with Carla. He got Chris to understand. Chris trusted Leon, but yet the files claimed in the short few years Piers knew Chris, they had a bond built on trust too. Hmm....

Piers knew why Chris became a captain, and eventually Chris opened up a smidge toward the end of the game, telling him it’d been 3 years since he killed Wesker (it was 4 actually :P), and he couldn't let this war follow him forever. Chris actually said (in a file) he at one point felt his duty was finished when he killed Wesker, so he was making a huge sacrifice by becoming a captain, and continuing to brave the front-lines with others (with less experience), despite knowing the risks of having others with him. The risk of others dying around him is literally part of why he began to doubt his efforts were worth anything in RE5, because losing Jill shook him to the core, after seeing so many others die, and even make sacrifices for him. He had survivor’s guilt on top of other mental issues!! Jill even wrote about his struggles in her diary in RE3. 

Piers went back into that doubt about not feeling ready to take on the responsibilities Chris has for years. Talking about how he doesn't think he’s ready for all of that...yet STILL he somehow expected Chris to be? Still he would treat Chris like that, when he was broken and lost? Like forget about him being “legendary,” look at him as a human with feelings, who is and HAS been suffering! Ugh...

It’s hard for me to feel any sympathy for his predictable (imo) death, when he showed no real regard to Chris, and how heavy everything weighed on him. How NOT READY he was to be back on the field and leading people. Like forget about his training “kicking right in,” look at how screwed up and shaken he is. It was a huge gamble, putting him back out there like that. Even Chris’ vengeful rage was fueled by his guilt over his men dying—the very thing Piers had shoved in his face. He would even see Carla taunt Chris over his failure to keep his teams alive, just as she taunted him before she made the Edonia team mutate. She wanted him to remember her for it too.

It honestly would’ve made me feel something for Piers, had he started to express his regret for even bringing Chris back on the field so soon, or expecting him to just be capable of just “dealing” with everything, or assuming he’d come around and fully take over his position. If he tried to lower his expectations, and calmly faced him about what he was saying and doing. If he had taken SOME of the blame for anything, even. Before Chris even remembered everything, Chris told him he was still trying to wrap his head around what he was seeing. I hate how the game never once finds any fault in Piers failing to keep an eye on Carla, which is partly why she was able to slip away unnoticed. 

Chris may have told Finn to protect her, but he then entrusted Piers to keep an eye on her.  Even if Piers felt it was his duty to carry on for those men, he should’ve given consideration to how he witnessed Chris breaking down seeing Finn and the others dying, and even his denial over their mutations, which is WHY he got injured. Chris just stood there, even when about to be attacked. He couldn't bring himself to fire at what was once Finn.

Like it’s just so f’ed up how they handled things. 

Chris vents about losing another comrade because of Carla, and Piers tried to reason with him, but the moment Chris tried to shut him up, he tried to use the guilt shit.

 “I feel sorry for all the men who died believing in you.” 

Chris was shoving him and telling him to shut up and everything, which wasn’t right, but seriously, Piers would think such comments were gonna be of any good use?

“What happened to the Legendary Chris Redfield huh? What happened to you?”

Not even giving Chris a chance to respond to that, Piers followed those questions with: 

“It’s a good thing Finn’s not around to see you this way.”

Try a different approach much?

In the bar scene, I couldn't even blame Chris for feeling threatened (despite being drunk as hell). Piers acted nothing like someone who was a friend/ally of his. He did later say things to Chris that were true, about his actions being wreckless, and possibly costing people their lives, but again, Chris is not the one who said he was ready to be back on the field and be put in charge. He was coerced into doing so. Yes, even despite the black screen where Chris says he can’t keep running away, and has to face the truth/accept his responsibility in order to remember, and to get his life back. Piers literally tried to guilt Chris into going back into the BSAA, and right back to work, then letting him know he has no choice either way really. 

I’ve seen people talk about Piers’ approach being typical of military standards, meanwhile, in CANON, Piers admired that Chris was NOT like what he was used to in the military.

Piers’ Career file - Bio6:

Furthermore, Chris called his own subordinates "family" and believed the younger generation would carry the BSAA's future, and respected the wills and lives of his subordinates more than anything when he was in command. Piers was deeply impressed with his attitude, which he'd never seen in the military unit he once belonged to, and he was sure that Chris was someone he should aim to be, and beyond that, he'd found a purpose to fight for.

It even says Piers wanted to be like Chris, and yet....So yeah, not here for the tired excuses.

Jill went through hell for Chris in RE5, even after she got control of her body. Even with an immediate threat from Wesker looming, she set herself aside, and told Chris why he needed to focus on taking out Wesker. Chris wasn’t understanding at first, because he literally only cared about having Jill back—in that moment. All that time Chris didn’t even think Wesker was alive. She shook sense into him, and even made him realize he had someone capable of helping him see things through (even Chris expressed it earlier). Jill even shut him down when asking about her condition again, to get him to focus on what she had to say to weaken Wesker—without being an ass (Jill honestly would’ve been a fine leader IMO). She always seemed to have to tell him she would be alright or was fine, and really needed him to see past her, or themselves. She needed him to believe that he could see things through, with or without her (as she continued to have faith in him, and there was no one else who could stop Wesker in time). The crazy thing (IMO), is that despite Jill being alive, Chris would likely feel guilt over whatever she had, or would experience, because of her sacrifice for him.

He got that far without Jill there to make him feel confident in overcoming the odds all the time (even if her survival was part of his motivation), and with someone not trained by Chris (Sheva and Josh don’t get enough credit tbh). Heck, even when Sheva questioned Chris on his personal mission to find Jill, and he got upset, she spoke up, and reasoned with him. She asked him about what happened to gain perspective and understanding. I respect Sheva for that, and like that she gave Chris that balance he needed, that Jill also provided, as the more level-headed/rational partner, who’s more calm and collected. I like that Sheva even realized one person can only do so much, even for someone seen as a superhero, such as himself. 

While Chris may not have been such a mess in RE5 as RE6, my point here is that Chris was capable of listening to sound reason, especially if he didn’t feel attacked (which made him feel worse about himself and his failures). His interaction with Leon proved this. Can’t imagine how bad things would’ve been had Claire not’ve made them get to know each other years prior, and Carla had’ve been killed earlier. Granted Chris and Leon had guns pointed at each other, and had an altercation, Leon resolved the matter using his words, and being firm. He even made sure Chris understood he wasn't his enemy, and that they were fighting for the same things. He let him know he trusted him to do the right thing. Chris also couldn’t pull rank on him (to try and shut him up), but you saw the actual respect Chris had for Leon ran deep.

IIRC, Merah asked Piers to look out for Chris before she died, because he was needed for the future, and told Chris to rid the world of bio-terrorism, but even if one considers that loss, and its possible impact on Piers in RE6, it still doesn’t excuse his behavior. Merah sacrificed herself for Piers, and you would think such a loss of someone he grew close to, he would maybe have thought of another way to approach Chris, when he didn’t listen, as he would know it’s hard to see someone close to you die, and you living beyond them. 

Why not remind Chris that Sherry was someone very important to his sister? That even if he didn’t give a damn about the situation, he SHOULD give a damn about what his sister would think, if she found out he left Sherry to fend for herself (mind you Sherry was ALSO missing 6 months, and Sherry’s LAST letter to Claire was right before she went to Edonia), and didn’t care what happened to her (after the assist the BSAA gave of course). How that would make him feel about himself in the long run if she had been killed (thankfully Leon sent him to go help her and Jake).  Piers could’ve framed it in a way to not scold him, but to get him to understand there was more at stake than just his vendetta or his guilt. Anything beyond only bringing up the men he failed to keep alive. No need to let his own frustrations get the best of him either (as hard as it may have been for him to deal with Chris). 

Piers having no other option but to inject himself to help Chris with Haos, takes the time to tell Chris he did it for the BSAA, for the future. In this case the future is about the BSAA—as Chris, personally, felt training the younger generations of soldiers to carry the future of the BSAA, to be prepared to face threats like Wesker, was his responsibility. Piers started to say his sacrifice was worth it, so long as Chris carried on, and did not retire after the mission—seeing is how he was a good as dead anyway. This being more of that guilt-tripping. Chris cut him off, to tell him he wasn’t gonna lose him too. At the end, Piers had no other option, but to release Chris in an escape pod alone. He gave Chris his bloodied BSAA patch, as a reminder of his sacrifice, to guilt him into staying in the BSAA. Even after Chris had basically told him this long war he’s had has been killing him emotionally, and it was becoming too much for him. Piers believed in Chris, sure, but damn, the lack of fucks given for Chris’ mental health...I can’t.

Piers had his sacrificial moment, and even then he sees Chris doesn't want to accept another loss. He’s seeing Chris is mentally suffering from it...and yet he just stood there in his resolve. Not once did Piers try tell Chris to take time to grieve, or try to come to terms with everything (you know given another team died under his command—now along with his personally chosen successor), by talking to someone about his problems, or finding healthy alternatives to make peace with himself, and the hardships he would have to face in his role, rather than resorting to running away, or trying to numb his pain somehow. He didn’t tell him he can’t always expect to return with everyone, and it’s not always his fault if they die. That there is worth in him, and what he wanted to accomplish as a captain. Instead it came off like it was all about his hero going back to his BSAA “family,” and leading the younger folks—honoring those who’ve died under his command, because if he didn’t, then everything was for nothing.

Ugh...so much more I could say, but yeah, given how pathetic the writing/story was in RE6, I just never could find myself caring for some things, but I really couldn’t bring myself to care for Piers. He wasn’t completely bad, but it’s just hard to look past his faults, no thanks to how horribly written his character and the story were. The forced parallels they tried to give him with Chris didn't help either. No amount of prequel stories (canon or not) will change how he was in RE6. Such a waste anyway. Chris isn’t even leading the BSAA’s younger generation now, so what was the point?