#season 1 to 6 on FOX

[lemotmo]

Very interesting and I hate to say that I tend to agree.. let's put you on the spot now! Where do you stand on this topic?

Q. I'm going to put you on the spot and I hope you will actually answer because I feel like a lot of people would just refuse too but there's a conversation worth having here so here goes. Thoughts on so much Bobby/Athena? It's becoming too much for me personally. I get that it's Angela and Peter but I want the other characters as well and they're being sacrificed more and more for more of the same from Bobby and Athena.

A. I do agree that there is a conversation worth having but I don't think anyone involved in the show is willing to have it because the biggest problem is COP Athena. They wrote out both of her children for reasons that are still baffling to me so they took away basically anything they could do with her outside of her job and it wasn't the right call. I understand both kids are basically grown now so they would have to adjust the writing in some way but cop Athena, and worst yet, vigilante cop Athena is almost unwatchable for me. This is probably an American exclusive issue because of our specific cop problem here, but it's the way myself and seemingly many other viewers feel. Last week's storyline was appallingly tone deaf on more levels than I can count and it brought down an already less than episode compared to the rest of the season, although I did like the undercover bit at the very beginning. Athena works better as a character outside of the uniform. They tend to write her way OTT when they put her in uniform or in 'cop' mode and it makes many of her scenes uncomfortable or downright annoying. The end of last season is a prime example. The Athena/Bobby/cartel storyline was abysmal and her part specifically was way too much. I could not wait for their scenes to end and that was the first time I truly felt like that where they are concerned. The Bobby problem is a little easier to solve because they just drown him in misery porn. But the problem now is they overcorrected so far this season with the Brad/Hotshots stuff and now he's getting screentime that would be better used for the rest of the main cast. The distribution of screentime will always be unbalanced, and that makes perfect sense because, again, they are the true mains and they are badass. That being said though other storylines can feel rushed or dropped all together while Bobby and Athena storylines tend to last multiple episodes. I think that's why they feel over used at times. It doesn't help that the last two opening disasters and mid season finales have centered on them which makes them feel even more overused.

The tsunami episodes are still the highest rated episodes of the entire series and there are reasons for that. Everyone was involved. Everyone got screentime. It didn't feel centered on one particular storyline. Yes Buck and Christopher were the A plot, but it was sprinkled throughout the episode correctly and felt in balance with the rest of the storylines. I will say though that Buck focus tends to work for the audience, sorry not sorry to the Tommy people, but he's truly an audience favorite. And captain Bobby is always nice to watch so those episodes worked all the way around. Last season felt very unbalanced screentime wise and that has so far carried over into this season. We haven't had nearly enough of Eddie so far. I think spending 3 episodes on the opening disaster has set the actual plotlines back and that's unfortunate. We should be seeing Eddie way more. Eddie has actual ongoing storylines that go episodes with no mention whatsoever and it's weird and noticeable. And we lose those scenes for Brad scenes which makes it worse. The audience is not watching for Brad and Hotshots. They have overdone that plotline and that's because of Bobby. They want to give him other things to do, and I'm thrilled it wasn't more misery plot, but there is a happy medium to be found and thus far the show hasn't been able to find it. It's a conversation worth having, anon, but they're always going to get the bulk of the screentime. I just need it used better if it's going to continue to come at the detriment of the rest of the cast and their storylines.

Ooooh Nonny! Putting me on the spot now, are you? 😆 Thank you for dropping this into my ask box. This really addresses the core of the problem 911 has. Let me see if I can explain as well as Ali where I stand on this topic. 😋

All right... 🤔

I admit that I started watching 911 all the way back for Peter. I love him so much as an actor, so when I came across a 911 episode one fine day in late 2018. I binged the entirety of season one and while I liked the show a lot, I wasn't completely sold.

I really didn't like Buck in the beginning, but he grew on me as his relationship with Abby progressed. I admit I loved BuckAbby and really liked Abby as a character as well. It was a relationship that spoke to me and I was quite sad when I realised she wasn't coming back for season 2.

I also really enjoyed watching Hen, Chim, Athena and Michael. I loved them all so much. They were such interesting characters.

Then season 2 aired and I fell completely and head over heels in love with Eddie Diaz (and his adorable son). He was the one that kept me watching. Suddenly Buck's character got even more interesting. Ryan and Oliver have this natural chemistry that just blows you away.

As we progressed in season 2, you could feel all of the actors got a better grip on understanding their characters and the show improved so much.

The rest is history. I'm still here to this day.

Do I still love this show? Yes. I do however have a lot more criticism than I used to have.

I've talked before about the fact that I'm used to network TV-shows. I've been watching them since the 80s and I've often been left frustrated by the little screentime some of my favs got. So in a way, I'm used to this.

But the fact of the matter is, that 911 didn't use to be like this. They defied the 'some mains are more important than other mains' trap and showcased all of the characters equally in the early seasons. They have lost the plot somewhat since then in the later seasons. It's like Ali said, the tsunami arc was superb because everyone was showcased.

For the last two seasons Bathena have been heavily featured. Too heavily, I agree. When I found out that, once again, Athena would be in the middle of that opening disaster, I actually rolled my eyes and said: "Of course she is." And don't get me wrong. Seeing Angela act? It's always a treat. The best treat. But to spend 3 episodes on that disaster/police investigation story? It was too much. Two would have been enough.

Another thing that irks me in Athena's stories is the whole vigilante police officer 'Law? What law?' thing that she tends to get away with. I really don't like storylines like that and I admit that I tend to fast-forward through scenes like that. Like when she entered that man's home last season and threatened him. That was a big 'no no' for me.

I can't speak too much about the 'copaganda' problem. As a non-American, a lot of the time the whole 'copaganda' thing flies straight over my head. Like in last episode. I quite liked that Athena storyline, because for once, she decided to follow the law. I figured they had finally learned that Athena isn't above the law. But then I went online and realised that so many of my American mutuals hated that storyline with a passion. I had to look it up and try to figure out why they hated it. I get it now and I fully agree and sympathise. But I didn't notice it myself.

Going back to Bathena taking up too much storytime. The thing is that this hasn't only happened with Bathena. It has also happened with Buck during some shorter arcs from season 4 on when it was still on FOX. He got so much screentime during some episodes that some other characters were left in the dust and I remember being frustrated with that. I get why they did this. It's like Ali said, they knew Buck was a popular character, so they showcased him.

There is nothing inherently wrong with using characters to draw in more viewers, because it makes sense from a business perspective, but it's frustrating for the people who really love Hen, Chim and Eddie. We all want to see them appear more often and get to know them even better.

An example of this in season 8 is Chris. We all know how much of a devoted dad Eddie is. The boy has been gone for quite some time now. We have seen some snippets of Eddie being affected by that sure, but they could have easily edited in some Zoom calls with Chris to show us his progress in rebuilding the relationship or maybe some lonely moments of Eddie sitting home alone. But... nothing.

Instead there was Brad, Gerrard and god forbid... T*mmy. These men all got waaay too much screentime. Not to mention that the show 'forgot' about two of these characters' horrible racist and sexist past. But apparently Brad screaming to a waitress is so much worse than that. THAT is the one thing that makes Bobby angry. Not Gerrard's and T*mmy's horrible past, but Brad being a pompous ass and yelling at a waitress. Make it make sense. 🤷‍♀️ Don't misunderstand me here! Respect waiters and waitresses! But you know what I'm getting at right?

At least Brad might still be around for a reason, to have some purpose in Eddie's story in episode 8. But the others? There's really no excuse.

Anyway, back to my original point. These men took up screentime that could have gone to other characters that are actual main characters.

So yes, I too am frustrated by all of this. But I'm also very much aware that I can't change any of it so I tend to go with the flow. It isn't anything new for me. I remember those old TV-shows where I had the exact same frustrations.

And it's okay to showcase Bathena, because I adore them with all my heart. But let them start thinking about moving on in life, about retiring and just enjoying life together. No more police officer Athena, but simply the 'woman' Athena. Let Bobby be the Captain for a while longer, but show us that he's considering retirement, for the right reasons this time. This could open up a plot for Hen to take over for example.

Last, I can only hope that ABC and Tim realise that people need to see some fresh new storylines involving other main characters to balance everything out.

Give us some more Eddie and his search for joy, give us some more Eddie and Chris, bring Chris home, give Buck more to do than mope around over his no good ex-boyfriend, let Buck explore his bisexuality and let him actually say the words 'I am bisexual', show us the ups and downs of the Madney pregnancy, give us an update on Henren and how Denny is doing after that accident.

The absolute one thing I hope for the most (and I won't ever budge on that) is that... some day Eddie will finally get to be free of the closet he's in, secure and happy in a loving committed romantic relationship with Buck, his best friend.

When all that happens? That will be the moment I'll be completely satisfied with this show.

One can only hope. 🤞🤞🤞

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[mischiefbuckley]

GIVE EVAN BUCKLEY A DAUGHTER PLEASE 😭

(also ABC I need some more Uncle Buck and Jee scenes)

[1doesnotsimplyhavejust1fandam]

Need an acknowledgement after Buddie goes canon of them having had latent or explicit feelings for each other for years. This isn’t a case of “oh, we were best friends for years and then one day we woke up and were in love.” This is a case of “we’ve been best friends for years, and we’ve been falling in love with each other since the day we met. We just didn’t understand it yet.” We’ve already had Buck’s realization that he’s bisexual, but his arc was chock-full of obliviousness to his attraction to Eddie, his feelings for Eddie, whose attention he actually wants. He still doesn’t really get it, but he gets that he likes men too, at least. Eddie is a whole other ball game. From the Catholic guilt to the toxic masculinity to the childhood emotional neglect to the pressure he keeps putting on himself to perform in relationships. He’s repressed as hell, and he isn’t to “I’m gay” yet, but we see hints of him understanding that how he feels might be a little different (his pause at “follow your heart, not Christopher’s” from Carla, his two talks with Bobby, admitting to performance anxiety on dates to the whole team, his talk with Buck about Marisol being an ex-nun, his acceptance that Ana and a ready-made family was the reason for his panic attack).

We know that the two of them are bad at identifying how they really feel, or at least allowing themselves to feel it. So, it makes way more sense for the show to admit that they’ve had romantic feelings for each other for years, rather than trying to convince the audience that what we’ve been watching these past seven seasons isn’t a product of two characters’ struggles with their identity and relationships. And while I’d be satisfied with a light-hearted snark from Hen or Chim about how they’ve been seeing it for years, I’d be so much happier with a full circle moment of the boys actually fully knowing themselves, acknowledging that they were never just best friends, they just didn’t understand it yet. It would show their series-long growth, as well as being an enormous tip of the hat to the audience. Because we aren’t misinterpreting it. We’re reading the queer-coding directly from the show, yes through subtext of course, but also the literal text. There have been so many moments deserving of acknowledgement in this regard, and I would hate for Buddie to go canon without it being clarified that those moments were exactly as queer and/or romantic as we thought.

[travellingdragon]

"Let me grab Eddie."

For a second I thought that Eddie was actually there with Buck, so this would have been a nice ending scene for them.

Thank you @buffaluff for helping me with The Foot and for enduring my complaints about their faces!

(buddie fanart parts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, as well as a collection of them where I added some tattoos that I previously forgot ^^')

[mimi1985s-blog]

Just want to remember everyone, that this was a scene that actually happened. Tommy is a lucky guy

[bellabrady]

[meep-meep-richie]

Uhm yes Buck?

[0ut-of-my-head]

BOBBY NASH in season 6

[sillymille]

All right, everyone! I think I've cracked the code!

Huge thank you to Juju @loveyourownsmiilee for letting me bounce these ideas on her and helping me articulate this.

So, I think it's obvious that both Marisol and Natalia are not love interests for Buck and Eddie, because the writers are using a formula that has been used before. It's a red herring!

Marisol and Natalia are basically the same as Lucy and Lena.

Now, hear me out. Lena and Lucy were the female equivalents of Buck and Eddie, and were suspected to be there love interests initially. However, they're reflections of how Buck and Eddie used to be at work.

Natalia and Marisol are reflections of how Eddie and Buck used to be with their personal lives.

Natalia is the unabashed, enthusiastic person who embodies her job. She's genuinely passionate about one thing and it's death.

Marisol feels like she has expectations from her family and feels responsible for her brother, who is childish. There were moments when she was on the phone with her mom and her mom was pushing her to find a partner.

They've both made those little things their entire personalities. Just like they did with Lucy's recklessness and Lena's anger.

And this is why Buck thinks Natalia gets him. It's because Buck was her.

This show has always been huge on symbolism; whether it's the color theory, the couch theory, down to the meaning of names, etc.! And in the next episode, it is speculated that Kameron and Natalia are going to end up meeting and it has me thinking about Buck's storyline this season.

Buck has been struggling with what will make him feel at ease and dealing with him dying and coming back. So, what does this have to do with them meeting?

Well, here comes the physical metaphors that the writers love to have in the show.

The culmination of Kameron and Natalia meeting, is the duality of life and death which Buck has been struggling with all season.

But, wait there's more!

Lucy is coming back to show that Buck isn't the reckless, impulsive guy anymore. Natalia represents that Buck isn't the guy whose job is his life anymore. Kameron is reappearing because Buck isn't spare parts anymore, especially defective spare parts.

Also, it took him three tries to perfect the lasagna. He has three exes, three couches, and now three different women to show that he's at ease.

So, I'm hopeful that everything will work out because we know this season, specifically the latter half, has been different for Buck and Eddie.

Again! Thank you, Juju @loveyourownsmiilee , for letting me spill this on you!

[911-show-asks]

ask the 118 and anyone from the show anything!! <3

[georgies-ftts]

finally got my mum to continue watching 9-1-1 however that also means i have to sit here and watch buck being a try hard lick ass to prove he could be interim captain and for some reason it actually makes me want to physically recoil into myself and die

[mischiefbuckley]

i’m definitely gonna need more buck and bobby scenes in season 8 so here’s hoping we get some 🤞🏻

[canonicallyobserving911]

It was confirmed in one episode that...

Taylor Kelly is just as bad as she was in 2x6 “Dosed” because she did exactly what she wanted to do then but she waited 5 years to sell her soul for a story and she still threw the 118 under the bus.

Lucy Donato only wanted to hook-up with Buck in 5x11 “Outside Looking In” but she never got the chance.  So, she became petty and made him feel bad about it since he was on a date with someone else.

Natalia (don’t care what her last name is even though she has one) even though Buck told Eddie in 6x15 “Death and Taxes”, “I feel like she SEES me” that was a bunch of BS because she in fact only saw he died and it was SO COOL to her but she COULDN’T UNSEE THE REAL HIM which makes her a terrible person.

Kameron (don’t know their last name and don’t care) is NOT an option for him because HE WILL NEVER CROSS THAT LINE WITH A FRIEND.  That’s what his whole comment in 6x14 “Performance Anxiety” of “Nobody likes a cheater” was all about.  He reminded the GA he did cheat in 5x11 and no one liked it (the audience hated it) so he won’t do it again.

They really showed the GA (even though some will continue to deny, deny, deny) that these women were never good for Buck.

Eddie is the BEST option and HE’S PERFECT FOR BUCK because they’re in love with each other, Eddie SEES him, he doesn’t judge him, he’ll never hurt Buck like TK did, he doesn’t judge him like Natalia did and they’re relationship has always been built on trust.  They’ve already built a family together which was shown in 6x13 “Mixed Feelings” so if some GA viewers still don’t see it, it’s because they don’t want to.

[perseus-jackass]

Oh buddie poker date I’m obsessed with you

[fanficsfordays1795]

All the respect to Evaneddie whose account got deactivated, you will be missed dearly. But I needed this last night and so I made it.

[bellabrady]

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