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A Guide to the Field of Forensic Science Education
Forensic science is a lighthouse in the field of criminal investigation and justice, solving puzzles with methodical study and interpretation of the available data. Fundamental to it all are the skills of forensic scientists—people who have undergone extensive training in order to reveal the mysteries concealed in crime scenes. What, though, is required to become one? Come along as we explore the…
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I was just reminded that the art collective Forensic Architecture exists and once again I’m disgusted.
For those of you who don’t know, it’s a collective of various artists who play at forensic science, conduct “forensic investigations”, and then make art exhibits of their “results”. Their reports and exhibits will make statements such as “the evidence shows that X is linked to Y” but the statistical output that they share will show something like a 5% confidence in the match.
That's right. They make art exhibits of their "investigations".
You want to talk about fandomizing tragedy? Making “forensic investigations” into art exhibits is the bougiest version I can think of, and it's only to serve an echelon of people who enjoy that kind of stuff. If any of the people in this art collective had a background in forensic science they would have taken ethics courses that would tell them how horrid putting on an art exhibit like this actually is. You don't honor the victims by putting on an art show for the rich and powerful to gasp and faint over so that you can fundraise for your next show.
Their founder has even stated that they’re not in forensics but “counter-forensics” and "counter-investigation". They eschew the practices and norms of the scientific community for telling their own version of investigative “truth”. They’ve even gone so far as to quote post-truth philosophies in their work and the controversial Nietzsche quote about there being no facts, only interpretations. Both are dangerous philosophies to hold in forensic science as it presents the evidence as subjective rather than objective. This is why they're an art collective and not a forensic science research group as they purport, they're rejecting objective scientific outcome for subjective interpretation.
You can go to the group's website and they have profiles on all of their team members. Almost every person is labeled as a "researcher", but once you click on their profile it quickly tells you that they're an artist, designer, activist, or some combination of the three. No mention of any scientific background whatsoever. That indicates their ability to actual conduct forensic science research is not great as they don't have any training or education on the methods involved. In fact, their entire program and personnel are out of an arts college with no science programs or faculty outside of anthropology.
That's weird, right?
A group that supposedly made a new discipline of forensic science, according to them, has no members with actual backgrounds in forensic science or scientific disciplines relating to it?
None of the team member profiles detail any scientific background that would be relevant to forensics outside of a few people with engineering and computer science degrees. Neither of the aforementioned disciplines typically train you in forensic practices anyway unless you take certain courses. Because these profiles are public you can go and checked LinkedIn profiles and find the CVs for each member as well. Guess what? No forensic science or relevant scientific backgrounds listed there as well.
But for some reason this art collective has received funding from governments and NGOs for "creating" a new discipline of forensic science. They're a "trusted" source for forensic investigations. That's worrying. That's terrifying.
I'm a forensic scientist and to make an objective field based upon methodology and empirically supported practice into one that is subjective and throws out the empirical aspects is terrifying. Everyone should have klaxons going off in their head whenever they see Forensic Architecture's name appear in a publication. I've reviewed a few of their "investigations" and they are rife with bad practice, manipulation, and misinformation. In fact, it appears that they present their work in art exhibits more than they testify to it in court due to their methods being questionable and their intent being not to help the investigation but to be a "counter-investigation" that can be judged by the court of public opinion. What do I mean by this? In many of their investigations the collective does not actively have personnel at the scene. Meaning they are not getting first hand physical evidence and measurements. Now, it's not always possible to be there personally and as such you rely upon crime scene techs, investigators, and other personnel to collect this stuff. Typically if you're a consultant or outside firm you are getting the evidence after it has been collected for analysis. You want the physical evidence in your hands as much as possible so that you can analyze it properly. Sometimes you have to request going to the scene yourself to get the measurements and evidence you need. The worst type of evidence to receive is honestly digital images of the scene as you are now having to analyze something a general investigator, who likely does not have specialized training, took a picture of.
In situations where you cannot have the physical evidence for analysis and you are left with only photographs then a forensic expert should be tempering their responses and conclusions. You cannot confidently come to conclusions based simply on looking at photos. This is something that is hammered home repeatedly in forensic programs and professionals.
In the case of warzone crime scene analysis, as FA typically does, they are, typically, not collecting evidence first hand from the scene, nor are they receiving evidence secondarily from actual trained investigators (when they are there first hand they also rely excessively upon expensive technology instead of best practices). They rely upon third party photos and satellite imagery to do their analysis.
Time and time again, forensic experts who rely solely upon digital photos and media to make their analysis get ripped apart by a good lawyer. Being confident in conclusions based upon photographs is the easiest way to lose your credibility. But again, the art collective playing forensic scientist primarily puts their work in art exhibits where they are not scrutinized by experts. Hell, I don't think I've ever seen them present at one of our professional conferences nationally or internationally (I would love to be a fly on the wall when that happens).
And finally, if this was an actual credible scientific group that produced credible investigations and had created a brand new field with methodology that stood to scrutiny there would be publications in the forensic journals detailing this. Especially from the "creator" of the field Eyal Weizman.
Guess what there isn't?
But in the end all they’re actually doing is crime scene reconstruction from people who want to cosplay as forensic scientists.
(for more reading on the group see this article that highlights issues with FA from another perspective https://www.artnews.com/art-in-america/features/forensic-architecture-fake-news-1234661013/)
#Forensic architecture#forensic science#Forensic Architecture is not made of forensic scientist but of artists#Forensic Architecture admittedly does not follow established forensic practices and principles#This is the group that Western Activists will share as “proof” for the “crimes” of Israel#Their rejection of scientific methodology is all you need to know about the veracity of their “proof”#They use tertiary evidence in their analysis and very rarely provide an actual report on their methodology - which is horrific#FA is being used by antisemites as an “authority” and they should be summarily ignored for poor scientific practice
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i'm gonna work at this fucking call center forever arent i
#hotel california ass workplace#many such cases#i fucked up not double majoring in anthropology and clinical laboratory sciences#bc nobody takes anthropology as a science seriously in forensics#unless they need Old Bone experts but that's so much schooling and it's not sustainable#i fucked up bad#im already 5 years in i can't add a whole ass other major now
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#txf polls#tell me why in the tags#it’s Scully for me#to have such fascination with decomposition and forensic science#Mulder I need your help digging through the bio waste simply because your arms are longer#Mulder I need to find the specific remembered body part in this giant vat of medical waste#it’s like dumpster diving only more fun
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Got my class schedule. They put me in health science (medical) instead of physics or forensics science.
I fuckig hate medical
#GGGHRRHRGFFGHHHH!!!!#I AM OUTRAGED.#Physics teacher was also my earth/environmental teacher last year and said:#'Oh we need more girls in the physics class idk why but girls never sign up for it. it's not a hard class'#me and my friend go 'oh we'll sign up' AND NEITHER OF US GET IN???#It's not a grade thing either we have good grades#maybe a schedule thing but I'm so so so LIVID#HEALTH SCIENCE??!!#NOT EVEN FORENSIC SCIENCE!! THAT WAS ONE OF MY OTHER OPTIONS!!!!!!#GHREGFGFHFHRGFHFHFHRHFH#IF I WANTED TO GO MEDICAL I WOULDVE SIGNED UP FOR THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGHSCHOOL THING THAT SPECIALIZES IN MEDICAL#THAT MY MIDDLE SCHOOL BEST FRIENDS WENT TO AND I SURE AS HELL WOULD'VE GOTTEN INTO!!!!#anyways rant over kids. pack up and go home ❤️
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weird question but is there a forensic science side of tumblr? and if so when do the police move bodies from active crime scene investigations?
I don't want to be weird but I just need to know.
For context: The bodies would be dead, some kinda brutalised to the point that moving them would be a hassle. We're also talking about a few corpses (in general, not only brutalised) like 6-8 or so, so it would be a large investigation.
The location of the crime scene would be a public location that is cornered off from the public so there would be some pressure to do the investigation quickly so cleaners/repairers can swoop in and get the place functioning again. The bodies are not caused by a bomb.
Thank you science side of tumblr in advance and sorry.
#I tried looking it up but most forensic pages just say what is done at an active crime scene#not how long they take#I would like to clarify#that this is for a thing I'm writing not a thing I'm doing#forensics#forensic science#forensic science investigation#science side of tumblr#science side help me#feel free to ask in DM for clarification on why I need to know#I'd be more than happy to say
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Fuck I miss science
#a) need to get back into a science related job#b) need to go back to reading up on scientific literature#c) need friends/partner who is willing or happy to listen to me talk science and will ask me questions about said science#my degree was in forensic science and most of my work has been in molecular biology/public health but im into so many more fields than that
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Not even 2 weeks into the final term and I’ve already been on the verge of a breakdown over all the shit I got on my plate
#storms rambles#I’ve currently got to write a dnd campaign for next weekend because I haven’t done anything in 2 weeks#I’ve got a mask I want to finish before Halloween so I can wear it#I’ve got studying to do for history maths and science#whilst also needing to complete some more stuff for pottery and forensics (which involves pages of annotations and writing a 2-5 min script#which I know no one else in my group will fucking write#I decided to start a rewrite of a story I’m planning on putting on ao3#I have several art projects in the works#and I need to find down time to chill out with friends and family and enjoy my hobbies#bro I’m 2 weeks into the final term of school tf#what am I gonna do in 10-12 💀💀
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I didn't want to distract from the excellent article about the woman doing great work on Wikipedia nazi articles, but it reminded me of my current crusade that I need Wikipedia gurus to help me fix.
Probabilistic genotyping is a highly contentious form of forensic science. They use an algorithm to say if someone's DNA was on the scene of a crime for mixtures that are too complex to be analyzed by hand.
Let's learn more by going to the Wikipedia page.
Oh that's good, it's less subjective. Sure defense attorneys question it, but they question all sorts of science.
Let's go to the cited article to learn more.
Well that doesn't seem like it probably supports the Wikipedia assertion. Let's skim through to the conclusion section of the article.
Well shit.
Also the article talks about how STRmix, one of these popular programs, has allowed defense attorneys to look at the algorithm. That's true! We hired an expert who was allowed to look at millions of lines of code! For 4 hours. With a pen and paper.
Junk science is all over the place in courtrooms and it's insane that allegedly objective places like Wikipedia endorse it so blindly. I am biting.
#wikipedia#forensic science#probabilistic genotyping#criminal justice#people who are good at wikipedia i need your help#criminal law
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I had books delivered to the post office AND!! My hold is ready at the library. 😌😌😌
#Books at home? don’t know her#Need more books#All the books#EVERY OF THE BOOKS#Also my hold is ‘Still life with bones: genocide forensics and what remains’#I am very excited to read it it sounds incredibly sad but also good at the same time#Like forensics are so fascinating and I wish I was smarter with science and math and shit#I wanted to do shit like that so bad but *womp womp*
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Just a bunch of Useful websites - Updated for 2023
Removed/checked all links to make sure everything is working (03/03/23). Hope they help!
Sejda - Free online PDF editor.
Supercook - Have ingredients but no idea what to make? Put them in here and it'll give you recipe ideas.
Still Tasty - Trying the above but unsure about whether that sauce in the fridge is still edible? Check here first.
Archive.ph - Paywall bypass. Like 12ft below but appears to work far better and across more sites in my testing. I'd recommend trying this one first as I had more success with it.
12ft – Hate paywalls? Try this site out.
Where Is This - Want to know where a picture was taken, this site can help.
TOS/DR - Terms of service, didn't read. Gives you a summary of terms of service plus gives each site a privacy rating.
OneLook - Reverse dictionary for when you know the description of the word but can't for the life of you remember the actual word.
My Abandonware - Brilliant site for free, legal games. Has games from 1978 up to present day across pc and console. You'll be surprised by some of the games on there, some absolute gems.
Project Gutenberg – Always ends up on these type of lists and for very good reason. All works that are copyright free in one place.
Ninite – New PC? Install all of your programs in one go with no bloat or unnecessary crap.
PatchMyPC - Alternative to ninite with over 300 app options to keep upto date. Free for home users.
Unchecky – Tired of software trying to install additional unwanted programs? This will stop it completely by unchecking the necessary boxes when you install.
Sci-Hub – Research papers galore! Check here before shelling out money. And if it’s not here, try the next link in our list.
LibGen – Lots of free PDFs relate primarily to the sciences.
Zotero – A free and easy to use program to collect, organize, cite and share research.
Car Complaints – Buying a used car? Check out what other owners of the same model have to say about it first.
CamelCamelCamel – Check the historical prices of items on Amazon and set alerts for when prices drop.
Have I Been Pawned – Still the king when it comes to checking if your online accounts have been released in a data breach. Also able to sign up for email alerts if you’ve ever a victim of a breach.
I Have No TV - A collection of documentaries for you to while away the time. Completely free.
Radio Garden – Think Google Earth but wherever you zoom, you get the radio station of that place.
Just The Recipe – Paste in the url and get just the recipe as a result. No life story or adverts.
Tineye – An Amazing reverse image search tool.
My 90s TV – Simulates 90’s TV using YouTube videos. Also has My80sTV, My70sTV, My60sTV and for the younger ones out there, My00sTV. Lose yourself in nostalgia.
Foto Forensics – Free image analysis tools.
Old Games Download – A repository of games from the 90’s and early 2000’s. Get your fix of nostalgia here.
Online OCR – Convert pictures of text into actual text and output it in the format you need.
Remove Background – An amazingly quick and accurate way to remove backgrounds from your pictures.
Twoseven – Allows you to sync videos from providers such as Netflix, Youtube, Disney+ etc and watch them with your friends. Ad free and also has the ability to do real time video and text chat.
Terms of Service, Didn’t Read – Get a quick summary of Terms of service plus a privacy rating.
Coolors – Struggling to get a good combination of colors? This site will generate color palettes for you.
This To That – Need to glue two things together? This’ll help.
Photopea – A free online alternative to Adobe Photoshop. Does everything in your browser.
BitWarden – Free open source password manager.
Just Beam It - Peer to peer file transfer. Drop the file in on one end, click create link and send to whoever. Leave your pc on that page while they download. Because of how it works there are no file limits. It's genuinely amazing. Best file transfer system I have ever used.
Atlas Obscura – Travelling to a new place? Find out the hidden treasures you should go to with Atlas Obscura.
ID Ransomware – Ever get ransomware on your computer? Use this to see if the virus infecting your pc has been cracked yet or not. Potentially saving you money. You can also sign up for email notifications if your particular problem hasn’t been cracked yet.
Way Back Machine – The Internet Archive is a non-profit library of millions of free books, movies, software, music, websites and loads more.
Rome2Rio – Directions from anywhere to anywhere by bus, train, plane, car and ferry.
Splitter – Seperate different audio tracks audio. Allowing you to split out music from the words for example.
myNoise – Gives you beautiful noises to match your mood. Increase your productivity, calm down and need help sleeping? All here for you.
DeepL – Best language translation tool on the web.
Forvo – Alternatively, if you need to hear a local speaking a word, this is the site for you.
For even more useful sites, there is an expanded list that can be found here.
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whyyyy did I stop taking french classes in high school. Three years into it, and I stopped right before graduating? Why would I do that
#.txt#TO TAKE ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCES? I HAD JUST FINISHED FORENSICS I DIDN'T NEED ANOTHER SCIENCE CLASS#I could always pick it back up but I'm more interested in learning Spanish right now#feels a little bit more practical for where I live (southern united states)#definitely in the top 5 of the list of languages I want to learn though
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day 4 i have zero assignments so ig im just not. coming in. aside from grabbing my schedule 🧍🏻♂️
#im so lost x 4 lmao#snow speaks#work log#what i will do tho is use the time to study instead bc ill need it (i need it idk what to do)#did find out tho i did like 26% of cases assigned to me already and im like 🧍🏻♂️ i have 11 weeks left im gonna finish so quickly lmaoooo#im just hoping tomorrow therell be cases i can log but we shall see#i also have to do some write ups for some of these cases bjt 😭 aughhh#i went to check w the schedule lady and she said she cant assign me to anything bc. there isnt anything#so im just o7o ok! lost again!!!#the adventures of snow and his terrible luck jdjdjdjd#we looove being a guinea pig for new programs lets goooooo👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼#literally happened w my undergrad degree as well but i was like FINE. BC I LIKE U SO MUCH. ILL DEAL#it wouldve been worse if i stuck w forensic science tho ngl
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im back from schoooollllll......
#crow talks#learned abt forensic stuff in science today!! :D (<- his love for forensics was awakened)#just the very basics of forensics tho.#anyway im gonna probably not talk for a bit bc im very tired lol#i would work on stuff i need to do but i honestly cant.#hahaaa....
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Would you like to participate in some real-life forensic science?
I'd like to see what happens to the following Skechers sole pattern as it wears down. I'm guessing the little longitudinal lines will wear away so that the solid latitudinal bars underneath will imprint, but I'd like some confirmation.
These soles are from 2019 Skechers for MEN, WOMEN, BOYS, GIRLS, & UNISEX KIDS/TODDLERS of varying colors and styles (sneakers, slip-ons, boots, etc.), and any size will do, as long as it has the pattern below.
If you own Skechers, could you check the soles and see if they have this pattern? If so, please send me a pic of the sole--depending upon how it looks, I may also ask you to make an impression for me.
Also, please reblog so I can get a larger sample size. I posted this on Facebook and so far none of my friends has any shoes with this sole pattern!
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Bruce looking past the fact that (recently adopted) Danny is a powerhouse and recognizing that he has other skills also. <3
Danny is a STEM kid and just as brilliant as his sister, you cannot convince me otherwise
Danny gave Bruce the handwritten list of powers in the morning. Bruce stared at it over his cup of coffee, then gave Danny a flat, somewhat disbelieving look. Danny shrugged sheepishly, rubbing the back of his neck.
“Sorry,” he said, perching on one of the stools. “I can point out the ones I don’t use if you just want to work on the ones I do. At least I have an idea of what needs improving with those.” Alfred gave him a cup of coffee and a plate of bacon and French toast, and Danny smiled at him. “Thanks, Alfred.”
“We’ll have to prioritize your training,” Bruce allowed after a moment, frowning down at the paper. Dick leaned over to look and whistled. “But all of these will be addressed eventually. You should have at least a moderate grasp of every tool at your disposal.” He looked up. “You intended to work in the lab today, correct?”
Danny nodded, playing with a strip of bacon. “I’ll probably spend most of today making a big batch of phaseproof coating,” he said. “Then I can experiment with mixing it with paint and maybe coat some of your spare weapons in it? That should work for the bo staff and escrima sticks, maybe a set of brass knuckles. But I’ll need to make a different solution for the edged weapons.” His mind wandered, thinking of how he could adapt what he knew of the Bats’ gear to work against ghosts.
“Who’re the brass knuckles for?” Dick asked, raising an eyebrow at Danny. Danny flushed and shrugged.
“Batman,” he said. “You don’t really use a weapon, right?” Bruce grunted. “But phaseproof cloth isn’t something my parents ever really figured out. I can work on it, maybe, but I thought brass knuckles would be an okay compromise for now.”
“Hn.”
“Good thinking,” Dick praised with a smile. “It’ll be easy to add to the utility belt too. Should we ghostproof my main set or a spare?”
“The main, I think, if you’re okay with it,” Danny said, tilting his head thoughtfully. “You probably won’t even notice. But the edged weapons should all be spares. Ecto-treated metal tends to glow.”
“Not great for stealth,” Dick nodded. “Whatever you think is best, baby spook. We have the resources.”
“You’re hyper-specialized,” Bruce noted without inflection, sipping from his coffee. Danny winced.
“Sorry,” he muttered. It was easy to forget that all this was pretty useless outside of Amity Park. Bruce shook his head.
“It’s not a problem. But we’ll need to diversify your skillset. Your talent for chemistry and engineering should expand beyond ectoscience alone.” He studied Danny contemplatively. “Higher education might be beneficial, perhaps a PhD.”
Danny’s eyes went wide. “What? I’m barely passing high school!”
“I had Casper High send over your transcripts,” Bruce said. Danny flinched. “You had a B+ average in middle school, with a particular bent for math and science. You also participated in several advanced extracurriculars, including a junior astronaut program, space camp, and competitive robotics. Further, you clearly have a comprehensive understanding of your parents’ work, which eludes both the Justice League engineers and JL Dark. You had these talents prior to acquiring your powers, and it would be a waste to discard them in favor of your raw combat ability.”
Danny stared at Bruce, open-mouthed and speechless. He couldn’t remember the last time he’d considered even the possibility that he could have a future outside of his hero career.
“…Do you think I could do that and be a superhero?” he managed after a minute, quieter than he’d meant to.
Bruce nodded sharply. “Most Justice League heroes maintain a career outside of heroics,” he reminded Danny, without even sounding like he thought Danny was an idiot for asking. “Aside from myself, there is also a Pulitzer prize-winning journalist, a museum curator, a forensic scientist, and a fighter pilot.”
Danny had known that on some level, but it had always seemed unreal. Practically a myth. “When am I going back to school?” he asked, hardly able to believe that he was suddenly looking forward to it.
“At the beginning of next semester,” Bruce said. “Your parents’ trial should be completed by then. I assume you don’t want to be announced publicly until that happens.” Danny shook his head fervently. “You may need to complete some make-up classes online, but we can discuss that next week.”
“Thanks,” Danny said sincerely. He was talking about a lot more than his re-enrollment.
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