#loak kidnapped instead of spider
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be-the-glenn-to-my-maggie · 2 years ago
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i wonder what would happen if lo'ak got captured instead of spider? neteyam would probably be distraught and jake, oml.
This raises so many questions and changes the plot dramatically.
First off, Jake and Neytiri aren't leaving Lo'ak behind. So the whole Metkayina shit is gone. And they're going to mount an attack to retrieve him. Quartich hates the Na'vi so he's not gonna try to manipulate Lo'ak like he does Spider, so Lo'ak is not leaving the Bridgehead. I see it going one of a few ways.
Either they try to trade Lo'ak for Jake, which he'll def go for and then there could either be a big battle to try to avoid that or he could just go. Or there's a massive Bridgehead assault that results in an insane amount of casualties on both sides, but I would think heavily Omaticaya. I don't even know if it would be successful in getting Lo'ak back honestly.
Or, I could see a stealth mission to get Lo'ak back. Tbh I think this idea is fun, because the humans could GET IN on this. Spider is the only unknown human right, so I imagine they have records and photos of the other defectors so they couldn't sneak in. But Spider is real tall and he can pass as an adult in proper clothes when no one is looking that close. If they can get him in the vents, he could just blend in. Neteyam can be his back up, as he barely fits in the vents as well. I bet Spider and Neteyam cook up this lil scheme to bring to Jake and Neytiri, let us mount the stealth attack but also sneak Spider in. I'm living with this idea a little! I think Spider and Neteyam are ruthless in their need to get Lo'ak back and they are kindred spirits in that. Neytiri is like "How can we trust Spider won't defect?" and Neteyam looses patience and he's like "Mom, Jesus Christ be for real we are all being serious right now. Get on board so we can get Lo'ak or get out."
Jake is torn about putting his kids in this dangerous situation but he needs Lo'ak back and this is the best plan. He's too big for the vents but Neteyam and Spider (Spider easily of course) fit so we have this horrible decision of wether or not to let them help. Love it. I also would love if it manages to open Neytiri's eyes to Spider more, how much he's willing to risk for her son.
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naavispider · 2 years ago
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Hey, if this isn't too much of a topic for you, I wanted to ask you if you think Spider could develop some type of eating disorder. I mean, Navi's tend to be very tall and tend to be naturally thin, but they're also very athletic. It seems to me that Pająk as a human would have to work much harder than maintaining his figure + he would probably try to be as perfect as possible so as not to stand out more from the rest. I have the impression that there may be a person who looks in the mirror and thinks that he has an imperfect body, not enough muscular figure, although this is not true. I've been thinking about a situation where because of all the stress of being kidnapped, the boy is eating/vomiting even less because he's eaten until he faints. How do you think Deja Team, Quaritch, Janine etc. would react to such a situation? Or because of the guilt of rescuing Quaritch, this would have happened after he was recaptured from the RDA. Perhaps Quaritch's son would then decide to train even harder to distract his thoughts from these events. Then I'd be interested in your take on the reactions of Kiri, Norm, Jake, Loak, etc. Again, if this is too uncomfortable for you, I'm sorry, I'm just curious. I know it was in your fic, but not in such a "drastic" version. I greet you very much <3
Yesss, I actually really do headcanon Spider as having some form of disordered eating when he's with the RDA (as to be expected). Obviously, trigger warning for the discussions surrounding this topic.
Before he was taken by the RDA:
he has to eat enough to keep his body in such peak physical condition. We know he is extremely fit, he has to be to keep up with the Omatikaya. So when he's eating at Hell's Gate with the science guys I can see him just devouring every meal set in front of him (he's a 'growing boy' after all) and not thinking twice.
in my headcanon, I don't see him developing an eating disorder while growing up, but I can see why people think that, given the possible body dysmorphia he must be feeling
After he's taken by the RDA:
Food isn't offered regularly and it is not dependable. Spider can't count on when his next meal will be, and he doesn't feel like he's in a position to ask. He's also not working out as much as before. Yes, he has to keep up with the recoms, but Deja Blue are not swinging through trees or lurching through the forest like the Omatikaya. So Spider can afford to eat less. (That's what he tells himself). He is also in such a constant state of anxiety that food always makes him feel slightly sick. When he does get the chance to eat, he sort of has to force himself to do it. (The beginning of disordered thinking patterns around food)
Quaritch and the recoms might start to notice, but nothing gets done until mama Janine (x) arrives on the scene to give Quaritch a blasting. She's sad because she knows why Spider finds it difficult to eat (they all do) - there's just nothing anyone can do about it. Spider is a prisoner of war, and the stress and fear and anxiety won't go away until the situation changes, so neither will his eating patterns
When he returns to the Sullys
He's lost his appetite over the months, plus is completely used to human food, so when he has to eat from the cookfires in Awa'atlu, he is both unfamiliar with the food and unwilling to eat in any large amounts.
he feels more at ease with them than with the RDA, but then he has the guilt of saving Quaritch weighing on his mind which festers anxiety instead
so he does start to loose weight. I don't know if this would develop into a full blown eating disorder, but I guess it's very possible - especially if Quaritch ever did go through on his promise in If You Playing Me and forced Spider to eat when the kid was in danger of going on hunger strike.
food seems to be a common issue for Spider in a lot of fanfic, including my own, and it would be interesting to explore why that is. I know that for me, I'm projecting a little bit of my own relationship with food onto him 😂
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