#kotor 2 kreia

[revanknightwoman]

I couldn't fit in more quotes. If you have any other favorites, please comment below

[hnnny]

Breakdancing Kreia and Darth Traya in honor of my latest animation, which you can watch here if you haven't already.

[holly-bearie]

yes she's wearing robes in the pool

[garchamp]

I like kreia (*´▽｀*) here is a rough sketch!

[justiceforc3po]

Appearing to someone in a vision to chide them for giving a homeless veteran 5 credits is insane. I love you, Kreia <3

Can I believe this is the best art I have done for these two games since I started playing two months ago? Nope. But here we are!

[jan-jan-binks]

[lordeasriel]

kotor 2 in a nutshell

[baranedizille]

Honestly I don't remember what I wanted to write here...

[skullinacowboyhat]

hnnghh jedi exile...most beloved of protagonists, from most beloved of games gahhhh [kaiya, she/her]

[blanq]

recently played both knights of the old republic games

[incorrect-kotor-quotes]

[incorrectstarwarslegendsquotes]

[Influence Gained: Kreia] The Exile: Ah. Your approval fills me with shame.

[hnnny]

I would have killed the galaxy to preserve you. I would have let the galaxy die. You are more rare than you know, and what you have taught yourself must not be allowed to die.

And it is for that that I love you.

(Alternates under the cut):

[mbharestuff]

Sara Kestelman's performance as Kreia in KOTOR 2 really is a huge part of why the game is so memorable. She plunges into the character; she played Lady Macbeth and my god you can feel that energy.

[birues]

Do not blame the Exile, you betrayed yourself.

[crowhoonter]

KotOR's Sith vs SWtOR's Empire

It's rather interesting to look at the "True Sith" as described by Kreia in KotOR 2 vs the Sith Empire we got in SWtOR. Back in KotOR, the True Sith were implied to be something near cosmic horror. Beings that had been changed by the Dark Side beyond any convention of human understanding, things that could no longer be reasoned or compromised with in any fashion, and would very possibly pose a threat to all life when they returned. Granted, what we know of them from KotOR is part conjecture and most of it comes from Kreia, who is an untrustworthy source at the best of times.

Then SWtOR roles around with the Sith Empire and they are... very much not that. They are a functioning, if dystopian, society with actual values and culture. They have wants and desires, goals outside just blind slaughter and killing. Y'know, like real people. Granted, I suppose the threat to all life did carry over with Vitiate and his whole deal, but he hardly is representative of everyone in the Empire. He is just a freak like that.

This drastic change in portrayal does make sense when you look at the writing teams goals with the faction. Obsidian and Chris Avellone in particular wanted to make a major big bad for what they thought would be the upcoming KotOR 3 (may it rest in peace), and wanted that threat to be something different than the typical Star Wars fanfare. As we know however, KotOR 3 never got made and instead became SWtOR, and Bioware wanted to make it palatable to more general audiences so they copy-pasted the Galactic Empire over into the past with some minor changes.

Of course, in doing this, they could no longer follow with the original idea of the True Sith. Making an entire society innately evil and desiring to wipe out all life has some... icky implications. So instead we got the Sith Empire, a still terrible and evil state, but one that is an actual society. The True Sith of KotOR were just made into one man, Vitiate, and everyone else in the empire is a mostly normal person, or as close as they can be to being normal.

While I would have loved to see the original vision of the True Sith, I can't help but believe the Sith Empire is the better than what we would've gotten. Vitiate, being honest, sucks as an antagonist. He's boring, uninspired, and lacks the charisma that made Palpatine fun. He got a bit better in Knights of the Fallen Empire, but still was overall underwhelming. I can't imagine something where legions of people like him are the main antagonist. The conflict would probably be reminiscent of the Fate of the Jedi books once Abeloth got introduced. Boring, impersonal, and just tedious to get through.

Granted, a villain like that can be done well, as exemplified by KotOR 2's own Darth Nihilus. He works because he is completely void. Nihilus' discerning feature is his lack of personality, being subsumed into his own hunger. Power has destroyed and reduced him, but even in such a state, you can make out the faint outline of the man he once was. His last shred of humanity showing through when he spared Visas Marr. A twisted sense of compassion, but compassion nonetheless. He is tragic, but still thoroughly inhuman and evil. The problem would arise in trying to make legions of characters like this. It would wear thin fast.

Side tangent aside, I really love the Sith Empire we got. It is, as of now, maybe the most complex view we have gotten of the Sith outside of books. They are still thoroughly evil, but it gives some insight into what made them into that. Whether it be trauma, ambition, grief, or even a sense of duty, the Sith have actual motivations besides kill and rule. It demonstrates that at their core, they are still people, not just evil caricatures.

This got longer than I expected, sorry about that. Just have a lot of thoughts about these fellas.