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not beating the allegations
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for the fandom meme: D, O, S, T, X!
What was the first thing you ever contributed to a fandom?
This Canon-Divergence fic where Azazel put Valentine in Raphael’s body, instead of Magnus’. The impulse behind it was extra petty, but the idea turned serious along the way lol.
Choose a song at random, what ship does it remind you of?
My shuffle went to You Know I’m No Good by Amy Winehouse, which unsurprisingly, reminded me of Rizzy xD
What's a headcanon you have?
The other day I was rewatching Rosewaves’ scenes Because Reasons, and I’m currently obsessing over Waverly’s “she’s barely said one word to me before today”, along with her overall bitterness because Rosita doesn’t like her! Everyone likes her! Which makes her insta-crush once Rosita tells her she does like her even more hilarious lol -and quite relatable tbh. As a fellow small-town gay, I can tell that the same happened to me with every Mean Girl that showed me any degree of affection xDD.
But I digress. Basically, there was enough bitterness that now I’m imagining the time(s) Waverly did try to talk to her and get her to like her, while Rosita kept blowing her off/ignoring her to avoid getting mixed up with the Earps xDD It’d make for a hilarious, sort of bittersweet fic.
What are your favorite male/male ships or female/female ships?
From the ones that I’m writing/planning to write for in the near future: Rosita/Waverly, Rosita/Wynonna, Bellamy/Wells, Octavia/Niylah, Lucius/Oswald (Gotham), Kisa/Manola/Paloma.
Some of my all-time favourites are Gabrielle/Xena, Root/Shaw, Korra/Kuvira, Faith/Kendra, Harley/Ivy, Kate/Renee Montoya, Jennifer/Needy, Cheedo/Dag, Amy/Lucy from D.E.B.S., Lila/Rebecca ... I’m actually struggling to come up with slash bigger-than-life OTPs lol, which I guess tells you where my preferences tend to go for. The times I OTP slash ship that much is usually in movies centered around them, like Moonlight, Happy Together, Big Eden, Naz & Maalik... (which reminds me I need to rewatch them all, minus Moonlight it’s been years since I’ve watched the others). Oh, and my all-times classic OTP Achilles/Patroclus from my Iliad-obsessed days lol.
3 OTPs from 3 different fandoms.
-Bellamy/Emori/Murphy/Raven (BREM) from The 100 (that’s the answer I’m sticking to from now on lol).
-Rosita/Waverly from Wynonna Earp.
-Caroline/Klaus from the Plecverse.
#obijuanjabroni#replies#talking to the void#my thoughts#shipping#thanks :DD#rosewaves#wearp thoughts#raphabelle#femslash
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If you don't mind me asking, why don't you like sanvers?
I don’t mind your asking, though I suspect some people might mind listening. I do want to say off the bat that there’s nothing wrong with enjoying it. This isn’t a bad or “problematic” relationship or anything. It just leaves me drier than a desert. And frustrated. Especially because it wasn’t my initial reaction to it. In fact, Sanvers owes me water. Preferably coconut.
I’ll just dump this below the cut.
Idk, yeah, when it was first introduced, I was pretty excited about it. It was set-up as a slow-burn throughout the season, and though I didn’t personally find Alex’s story relatable, I do know it was well-done and quite validating, particularly for people who came into their sexuality later in life. At the same time, I was getting a bit into Kate Kane canon, and seeing a Renee Montoya-inspired character on the screen was super exciting (thank you Griffin, for that one).
“Maggie Sawyer” (I have issues with them picking that name, but whatever) was this kind of snarky, edgy, smarter-than-average lady cop who would look *banging* in a fedora and 3-piece Kevlar suit.
Don’t get me started on my otp, btw.
Nah, I mean I figured their Mags was going to be whatever they needed, but I still assumed that she’d take some queues from Renee Montoya. And I was right! There was a backstory copy+paste in 2x13…sorta.
The thing is, while this setup was great, then there was that episode where the writers were just like, “LOL relationship!” And on one-hand, that’s great, but my initial reaction to it was disappointment that the slow burn was going away. But, whatever, subverted expectations are no big deal.
However, I think part of that disappointment was a worry that getting them together and an almost “we’re so ideal!” timeline was going to shove them into the mold of “okay, we did the gay thing, and now they can be over here.” Which is a simplification of what we ended up with, but I do think it was pretty fucking sanitized. I talk about the “closer to earth” trope a lot, and goddamn if there wasn’t a better example than Alex inviting Maggie’s ex-girlfriend to a date (literally no one would do this), and then them having about 2 seconds of conflict before Alex was all, “haha I’m glad you have baggage.”
Maybe in a different mood I would have been into that (my mood wasn’t great for the rest of the series this year, if I’m being honest), but it just read as almost infantilizing. Like, we queer ladies can’t handle anything other than perfect and pure love, or else we crumble! Add to that the stupid fucking marriage proposal. I’m sorry, U-Hauling is totally a thing, but jumping into a heteronormative institution that damn quickly, especially given Maggie’s less than ideal past with how people have reacted to her sexuality? Like…ehhhh.
Also, remember that time Maggie was holding off jumping into something with Alex because she had so many concerns about Alex’s first time with a woman seeming shiny and new and she’d have these feelings that would be intense and that rushing shit was a bad idea? Which is COMPLETELY ACCURATE?
Speaking of Maggie, I was a bit disheartened to see her transform from, like, a character, to Girlfriend McPlotNeeds. Because there is just…it’s like there’s nothing to her. Paper-thin, and no consistency. And yeah, after reading the excellent Gotham Central (thank you again, Griffin), to go from that to Montoya-light with 15 different police disciplines and utter incompetence when it comes to defending the police station (just go rewatch the shotgun scene, because girl, this is so inefficient), I was a little miffed. So I know I can get a tad…nitpicky with these logistics. But there was just so much wasted potential.
Look, I get the aspirational aspect of Sanvers, because they legit are supportive. My issue is that the support feels empty, because there’s really nothing underneath. “Ride or die” is a cool mentality, but that’s really the perfect microcosm here. Because when Maggie said that, the context didn’t really make sense. Like…Alex was going to be breaking all the laws and dragging her into it. Okay, support her at the end of the day if it’s like, “she’s going to do this any way,” but at least check if she’s really, REALLY sure. And maybe point out the consequences. Good partners should challenge you when you need to be.
Not that I would know anything about that.
I was in a relationship with some pretty obvious red flags, and not a single friend of mine said shit about it because they were determined to be good allies and would just chuck support at the concept of us. I know Sanvers isn’t problematic in any way, but it feels just like that same mentality went into the scripting. At a different stage in my life, or maybe without Mon-El putting me in a horrible mood for these episodes anyway, I’d feel differently towards it. But for now I just say, “really isn’t for me.”
You know what is for me?
These two ain’t closer to earth, I’ll tell you that.
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that was fighting for gay rights and people were killed
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remember when I first watched this and lost my mind like oh he's in LOVE love
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we used to be a country
#kate's big gay gotham rewatch#gobblepot#gotham#i'm not doing justice to benjamin's microexpressions in this scene because oh my god#jim 'i've made a huge mistake' gordon vs gotham's biggest gay boy - who will win?
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GAY BOY
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I hate gay people so much
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:(
#kate's big gay gotham rewatch#gobblepot#the way if it was literally anyone else oz would just be like 'so anyways i started blasting'#and jim shows his soft spot here too#UGH
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they're breaking up again :(
#kate's big gay gotham rewatch#gobblepot#literally the 'we're breaking up' 'why we can't break up' meme
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we're so back
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yeah.....
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we used to have Carol Kane on our tv screens
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prepare to be SICK of me
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Oz Cobb wishes
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Lucius!!!
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