#jFC AS IF THIS SCENE WASN'T PAINFUL ENOUGH TO WATCH BEFORE
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espejonight28738 · 5 years ago
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15×09 "The Trap" Meta
Warning: As always, Destiel and Saileen positive so don't like don't read.
OMG guys I can't even this episode was something else. Like, for real.
First of all, it looks like I was right about Eileen being part of Chuck's plan.
"I helping to Sam the Bunker. To Sam. To Romance." Thanks Chuck for proving me right, but if you could please not hurt my baby Eileen and Sam while you do it would be awesome ;-;
Now if only I could be in the right about the happy ending...
But whatever. Let's talk about the prayer first, because I could talk about it for hours. Everything was so wonderful.
First, when Dean looks he only have 29 minutes left to find Cas, you could see all the trauma resourfaced. You could see how he was imagining ending up without Cas again. Having to go back home (although he didn't seem to be going to the portal when right before he found Cas, but I have no certainty about it) and leave Cas behind, and he imagined himself reliving the guilt and the hallucinations and the hopelessness.
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[Gif by the amazing @agusvedder because I want you to look at him and tell me that ain't the look of a man who just imagined losing the love of his life again]
And, above all, Dean imagined having to live through it all knowing he never fixed their relationship. Rowena's words about not waiting until it was too late must have been ringing in his ears. And he knows that he needs Cas to know.
Purgatory's pureness gave him a new understanding of his emotions, and I'm not talking about the anger (it's obvious Dean already knew he had that problem), but the need for Cas.
"Cas, buddy, I need you." That same need, mixed with the possibility of losing Cas yet once again was enough for Dean to just break down in the middle of a land of abominations.
And the first thing he says. "I should've stopped you." Can you see how he is telling us we were right all along? Cas said "I left but you didn't stop me." And now Dean knows he could have.
If he had tried to talk, if he had asked Cas to stay, maybe he wouldn't have left. Dean put himself through that depression (the even heavier drinking, comfort food, the coldness) .
[And as an author note. How was that real? "You didn't stop me/I should've stop you" The Brontë sisters WISH they could write that levels of angsty romance.]
And, having Dean finally admitting to his very real anger issues gives me very high hopes for everything else. It's not like his problem will disappear, it does was kinda beaten into him, but having him admitting it is recognizing it as a standing problem between Dean and a Happy Future, so we can assume that will be another one of the problem they'll tackle in the rest of the season.
(Or maybe they'll forget about it. But s15 has been so good until now that I'm hoping they won't ignore it.)
And Dean calling Cas his best friends. Holy mother of God. I know I made several jokes about it, but it truly is so significant. Because words like "Family" and "Brother (and sister for Charlie)" are ones Dean had given other people. But Best Friend is only for Cas, it puts him in a special place in Dean's live no one else shares.
Maybe it's not exactly the place we want him to be in (yet), but the fact alone that they recognize once again how Dean and Cas' relationship is different to the one they have with anyone else.
So when did found Cas and said "Okay, Cas, I need to say something", I agree we wasn't about to repeat his prayer.
The Prayer (the fact that Dean got on his damn knees, for god's sake) was a moment of absolute vulnerability and emotion. Dean grew up in with a "no emotions" mentality tought to him by John, and so we seldom see him show this kind of raw vulnerability by choice. Considering that the Winchesters (as always, I include Jack and Cas in there) are an experts in 'I screw up and you got angry but then we had a bigger problem so we kinda left it behind us bc we are family and I love you anyway, or we just move on without never really discussing it' but not in actually apologizing, I would go as far as to say this was probably the most heartfelt apologize we've seen in the series.
I've watched the scene like a million times, and he just carries an attitude of doing something big. Like a big reveal, not like repiting himself.
Because he knew Cas heard him. The reason he said "I hope you can here me, that wherever you are, it's not too late" it's 'cause he was afraid Cas had died. That is was really too late. Once he saw Cas was alive? I don't think Dean doubted for a second Cas had heard him. He was hoing to say something else.
Cas clearly didn't want to take the risk of Dean telling him what he truly wanted to hear- what he had wanted for years. The risk of his deal with the Empty hovering behind hime. He couldn't be so selfish as allowing himself to hear it, just to abandon Dean right after.
Then Cas interrupted him.
Or abandoning Sam when he was at God's mercy, or leaving the World SavingTM to them. He couldn't. Dean doesn't even now about the deal.
I cannot tell you how much I loved it. Not in a "I want this to happen" way, of course not, but in what it means.
That's why Dabb said this episode wasn't the resolution. There's still much unsaid between them, if you believe there is an 'I love you' somewhere there. I think that's what has my hopes the highest. Because if they are only bff, then why didn't this solve everything? What is left hanging? I don't want to clown but it's literally the only thing that makes sense in my opinion.
And now, let's talk about the future Sam saw.
Sam and Dean don't need only each other to be happy, they need other people. That's basically what that future said.
"What's happened to you Dean? Ever since..."
"Ever since what? We lost pretty much everyone we ever cared about?"
[There is like a 2 second pause here that I feel very important andd significant. The separation between what 'everyone' and 'Cas']
"Ever since the Mark made Cas go crazy? Ever since I had to bury him in Ma'lak box? Ever since then? Yeah." [Jfc you can hear it pains him to say Cas' name]
"Bobby had a death wish and you know it. And Jody? Ever since what happened to Donna and the girls, she does too.
And after Eileen? So do you."
He's acknowledging everyone's breaking point. Jody's was Donna and the girls (we don't know exactly which one was the last straw, as we know that at least in Claire's case they died at different times). Sam's was Eileen. His was Cas.
And he is very clear in that. We can't know what happened first, but we know that Sam asks what happened to *him* and he says it was Cas going crazy. It was having to bury Cas alive what made him lose all hope. Because at least he can hope they ones dead can find pace, but Cas? Dean, and for how he said it he probably did it alone, had to bury Cas knowing he was going to be there for the rest of the time. Suffering alone. Dean knows how it's like to have the Mark.
That broke Dean. And having Sam wasn't enough to put him back together.
And after Eileen somehow died again, Sam just stop caring about living, he just care about taking down as many monsters as he can before he dies. 'Death wish' Dean called it. He would know about that, he is Dean "You wanna die" Winchester, after all.
Having Dean wasn't enough for Sam to want to keep on living.
"We lost, brother. We lost. I'm done."
They still have each other? Yes. Is that remotely enough? No. That's what the future told us. They need more than each other, they need other people.
But there was a little something else that made it even more beautiful.
"The Dean who raised me [...]"
Let's be clear about something, I think the show never gives enough recognition for having raised same pretty much by himself since he was 4 years. The situation was totally unfair to Dean and yet he never once took it out on Sam, he just look out for him, cooked for him, and make sure he could be as much of a child as the situation allowed, that is a lot more than Dean ever could. In his own words, he wasn't just a brother, he was also a father and a mother.
I just want to cry for thinking how hard that was for both brother. And Sam knows it, even if he doesn't always acknowledges. So the fact that he chose the words "the Dean that raised me" when "the Dean that I know", for example, would have conveyed the sentiment as well, is significant.
They wanted to remember how important they are for each other, how much they love each other. They don't dismiss that, they are making sure we remember that, at the same time they are telling us the alone aren't enough for a happy ending.
They are telling us what we need for a True Happy Ending.
Dean and Sam still being close brothers and loving each other, but allowing themselves to love and need other people.
Okay I'll go to the point.
A HAPPY ENDING IS SAM AND THEN HAVING OTHER PEOPLE IN THEIR LIVES WITHOUT LOSING EACH OTHER.
A HAPPY ENDING IS THE END OF THE TOXIC CODEPENDENCY AND THE START OF A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP THAT INCLUDES THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
You guys now I've been saying they are hinting at it since my meta of "The Rupture" but this ain't foreshadowing THEY ARE SCREAMING IT. Like I can't come up with a radically different interpretation.
So this episode only got my hopes for endgame Saileen and Destiel (the destiel maybe not at canon as the saileen, but heavily hinted at least) even higher. Specially for the parallel with Eileen having Dean's doubts ("I don't know what's real") and Sam making kinda answering the same ("We are"/"I know that was real"). Btw I'll be screaming because of that for the rest of my days.
[BONUS: Random questions I can't seem to answer.
Does the angels even know God's going bersek? I mean, Belphegor didn't know it was God the one who broke hell... but even Lilith's been brought back. Do they know Micheal's back? God I don't know.
Was that really a possible future? Or it does was like a Zacharaiah tactic? Why does Chuck's abscence makes monster go crazy? Wasn't the point that it didn't unblanaced the powers?
Story-wise, why ain't Cas in next episode?
Was that the last mention of Claire? An off-screen hypotetical death? Please someome let me see my girl again.]
Tagging: @metafest @verobatto-angelxhunter @agusvedder @legendary-destiel @that-one-fandom-chick @studio-hatter
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sigma-gay · 3 years ago
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The Batman Was Sexy
I was trying to decide whether or not to write a review on the movie bc tbh I didn't think it would be that good of a review and I didn't feel particularly one way or another abt the movie, however, I still have some things to say abt the movie that I thought would be worth mentioning.
1. Slow Pacing
this movie is three hours. it feels like it's three hours. both times that I watched it it felt like three hours. ik some people are saying that there's nothing that you can cut out, and I agree with that, however, there are definitely a lot of scenes that can be cut down. especially once it gets to the end, there's a lot of standing around and staring. it's supposed to be seen as character development, or your supposed to be imagining an internal monologue for a character I guess?? if anything, it just feels like the movie is trying to make you think something more is happening than what's happening. the script is already strong enough on it's own, the extra lingering wasn't necessary for the audience to believe the characters were moving with a certain motivation. it felt unnecessary and getting rid of it would definitely help speed up the movie a lot and make this three fucking hour long movie a little bit shorter.
2. The Riddler
I think ur reaction to the riddler and his overall character arc is highly dependent on the audience that you saw it with. the first theater I was in took the riddler really seriously (clearly the direction they were taking him in) and the second theater laughed when he came on screen in the diner scene. either way, I still disagree with the way they handled his character.
first of all, I liked that they took him seriously. I don't think the riddler should always necessarily be taken seriously, but in the context of the movie, the more serious approach definitely worked. he had a clear motivation and it made sense as to why he would be upset. however, the way that he carried out his motivation didn't make sense at all. the Riddler cites his difficult upbringing suffering as an orphan and being poor and being forced to see little bruce whine abt being a billionaire in a mansion. makes sense why he would hold a vendetta against Bruce Wayne who he suspects to be batman. shit, he got me on his side when he explained his backstory. but the way he carried out his motivation made no sense. he's mad abt the oppressive system of Gotham ✅ he's mad at Batman bc of what he represents ✅ he wants to uncover the lies and corruption in the Gotham government to show people the pain he went through bc of the broken system ✅ so he floods the city?? it doesn't connect. how does flooding a fucking city solve the problem?? how does flooding a city expose the lies of Gotham?? you could argue that the riddler just wanted an organized terrorist attack by civilians to show the insufficient capabilities of the government, but the movie sets up the riddler to be more clever than that. every other attack he sets up before that is done in a specific way to expose corruption. flooding the fucking city was a dumbass way of exposing corruption and wouldn't lead the citizens of Gotham to mistrust the government, but incel twitch streamers that breathe heavily.
also, as a lil side note, they kinda joker 2.0d him, ngl. the whole interrogation scene where he was talking abt how similar they were was wayyyy too close to the interrogation scene in the Dark Knight. tbh if they put him in clown makeup and made him a bit more senile he'd just be the joker.
3. Zoe Kravitz's Catwoman
I hate the way they handled her. so fucking much. oh my god. first off, HER MASK?? WHY TF DID THEY GIVE HER THAT FUCKING MASK?? she barely wore it half the time and took it off the minute she ran in somewhere and thank GOD. jfc WHY DID THEY GIVE HER THAT DINKY LITTLE THING THEY DID HER DIRTY. the rest of the suit looked normal I just don't get why they couldn't have made the mask a lil bit better 😭😭😭 also she barely looks like Catwoman without it. she's just a woman in a leather bodysuit.
I also really hated the way they handled her and batmans relationship. I don't understand how people fall in love with Batman in general. especially considering that they only know him as batman and can literally ONLY see the bottom half of his face. like how tf are you supposed to judge what a person looks like from that. and it's not like his amazing personality is shining through either. he says one word every ten minutes and walks around all weird and serious and shit. and this movie was no exception. their relationship just felt forced?? like, they had almost no chemistry outside of Batman being weird and watching her change and then they just kissed at some point?? they relied on the audiences knowledge of Batman and the comics (and the fact that Robert Pattinson and Zoe Kravitz are both really fucking hot) too much and didn't bother to ACTUALLY write the two a storyline. when they left each other at the end I wasn't even sad. like oh no, the girl you kissed three times?? in this movie and said ten words to is gone how sad oh nooo :(((((
I hope Zoe Kravitz comes back bc jfc she's hot and she needs to get like an actual fucking storyline and mask.
4. Overexplaining
the movie explains itself too much. at some points I rolled my fucking eyes at it jfc. when they broke into the riddler's apartment and started reading his diary I almost laughed out loud. NOBODY FUCKING WRITES IN THEIR DIARY LIKE THAT. it was just Commissioner Gordon monologuing for the riddler jfc HATED IT. like, the audience is smart enough to figure shit out, the movie doesn't have to explain it to us at all points.
5. Tone/Mood
I actually think the movie got this spot on. for moody Batman, they hit the nail right on the head. it definitely was emo Batman and lived up to that title. I really liked how all the tech looked kinda steampunk and had that industrial feel to it (btw the next movie should use NIN in their soundtrack). I liked the red and black and little emo Bruce Wayne walking around needing sunglasses. v fun
6. Overall
sexiest Batman movie superlative.
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