#im so fine with non-white actors give us more of that

[thehollowprince]

Hey Im new to skam why do people not like Skam It and Nicotino

Oh the reasons that people will give for not like Skam Italia are legion. They have a plethora of excuses, a multitude, an orgy, if you will.

"They look too old!"

"They're not affectionate enough!"

"They cast a white girl as a Muslim!"

"Whitewashing!"

"Racial slurs!"

"Martino doesn't look enough like a twink!" (actual excuse I saw)

"Its not realistic for high school students to party like that!"

"They look like models, not high school kids!"

"Blah, blah fanculo!"

I've seen these arguments in a variety of different ways and usually in conjunction with how (insert their favorite version) is so much better and obviously superior to all the others, etc.

In reality, these excuses that they use to hate on Skamit, and Nicotino in particular are just a lovely smokescreen masking their real reason for not liking it as much as the others, and that's Martino and Niccolò themselves.

I've made a few posts regarding the topic of Fetishization within the Skam fandom, particularly about Skam France and WTFOCK (Skam Belgium), and if I can remember to later, I'll like them into this post, but no promises. The point is, that there is a very large, very loud portion of this fandom in particular (and fandom in general) that fetishizes mlm sexuality. And I say fetishize because I know for a fact that 90% (if not more) of this fandom is female and if you've been in the fandom while the "Coming Out" story was airing, you'd notice a horrible trend of people just focusing on the romantic moments. There was barely a care for the actual problems that arose from being closeted or being forced to come out, unless it provided an excellent opportunity for Angst™ within the fandom. That's why everyone loved when Lucas (L.) punched a wall and hurt his hand. That's all the fandom could talk about for about two weeks.

I remember very vividly back at the beginning of Robbe's season on WTFock making a post about people only being interested in the story for the opportunity to see two boys kissing, because for two solid weeks all I saw in the tags was people demanding to know where Belgian Even was (who we later found out was Sander). That was literally the entire tag, with a few exceptions talking about how Noor made them into lesbians (different rant for another time). Further proof of this is that later on, when Robbe acted in a way that a lot of closeted guys do by lashing out, there was no sympathy from the fandom. They were calling for Sander to leave and find a love interest in Lucas (van der Heijden) on Skam Netherlands, because how dare he be mean to their poor baby! And don't even get me started on the fandom's opinion on the Broerrrs.

You may be asking yourself what any of this has to do with the fandom hating on Skamit and Nicotino, and you'd be right to ask that, because I know I can ramble a bit. But like I said above, their dislike came from Marti and Nico. A large swath of the Skam fandom just didn't like Italia because neither Fede (Martino) or Rocco (Niccolò) looked enough like the binary top-bottom stereotype they wanted in a slash ship (fans love the tol-smol trope) They couldn't project themselves onto one of them and this turn whichever one happened to be more of a twink (fandom loves twinks) into their self-insert.

They turn to the excuses I listed above as justification for not liking the show, instead of just... y'know, not watching it. They scream about a Muslim character that was a WOC in the original version of the show being played by a white woman, which is a legitimate concern (completely ignoring the fact that Islam is a religion, not an ethnicity), but then they're totally silent when a character that was black in the original show is now played by a white man. They're more concerned with poking fun at the other versions of this show because they got a new season and everyone else didn't. They kick up such a fuss about a non-hijabi playing one, but there's not a peep about straight actors playing gay roles.

My favorite excuse is the "they look like models" one, which is funny to me because people worship the Skamfr cast, who all look like they just stepped off of a runaway. Or the "too old" one, which only applies to Marti and Nico, and not to, oh, say Edoardo, whose actor was older than everyone else on the Skamit cast (if I'm not mistaken).

The real kicker is that these people claim not to watch it, or who said they didn't like it, but then throw a fit because Marti and Nico aren't ridiculously affectionate with each other, proving that all they really care about is seeing two guys kiss.

I've been in fandom a long time, so I know the signs.

Bottom line is that, while people are allowed to post whatever they want in regards to this fandom, but when they leave out Skamit and Nicotino and no one else, you know its deliberate and it feels very... exclusive. Like they're gatekeeping the fandom and I'm perfectly fine staying away from those "fans".

[gaymafia]

I’m legitimately curious why people didn’t like the last Jedi? I saw it and thought it was okay? Is there something I missed or? Like it wasn’t great but it was passable?

ok so i wasnt gonna do this here bc nobody fucking asked but u asked so thank u but also strap in ur ready for a while ride

TLJ spoilers, obviously. also my issues are going to be numbered in no particular order bc my thoughts on this movie are so fucking scrambled but here we go

1. Kyle Ron. First of all fuck Ryeanne for making me see so many goddamn closeups of Adam Driver’s ugly ass face. I did not need to see all that he is so goddamn ugly especially that fucking shirtless scene where he looks like a block of pasty ass pale wood.

But for real, Kylo Ren. I don’t actually take issue with his existence, because Kyle really does excellently represent rich ass white boys who have everything handed to them but throw a hissy fit when they face the slightest adversity an throw tantrums all the time. It’s nice to see a villain that represents most people real-life nightmares instead of like, a Sexy Temptress or Old Evil Man or whatever. That being said, kyle is not given the villain’s treatment in this movie. if you cut out all the scenes where ryan is not actively sucking adam driver’s dick and jizzing all over himself over kyle’s angsty white boy angst, the movie has virtually no real plot (”oh no we are in space with no fuel, nobody is going to do anything except get mad at each other, miscommunicate, and deliberately make all the characters of color worthless while separating Finn and Poe bc fuck the gays”). So much of the movie is spent not just establishing how kyle became kyle (which is good! backstory for villains is good!), but trying to get us to like, sympathize with him? which is the shitty part. I dont care that Luke “”””tried to kill”’’’ (he didn’t) kyle. kyle had turned to the dark side before luke’s mistake. kyle had a million and one chances to change his mind from the start of TFA to the end of TLJ, and he never did. Kyle is an evil guy. We need one of those. He’s a great evil guy bc he’s got so many shitty qualities. But ryin doesnt want us to hate kyle, even tho hes the villain. why the fuck doesnt reean want us to hate kyle? bc rayan is also a shitty little man who thinks giving ur white boy a sob story makes him a sympathetic villain and sidelining ur characters of color will help.

also again the fucking shirtless scene what the shit man that was so gross

2. Will be broken down into A, B, C, etc. bc TLJ treats its characters of color like SHIT. 

2A. Finn. Finn gets put in a coma bc why would anyone want to write anything interesting for john boyega its not like hes the MOST BEAUTIFUL MAN and the MOST TALENTED ACTOR who is being sidelined bc ryun hates black people. Yeah Finn is totally into Rey and he wants to save her and is willing to desert the rebellion for her. that happened in the first movie but why give your characters real arcs when you can recycle old ones to jerk off to kyle ron. the rose thing happens, shes like “we can disable the tracking” and like TWO SECONDS after he was dead set on desertion he’s totally down to risk his life for the rebellion at rey’s expense? that sure is a quick 180 with no real reason why and no writing to explain it! then there was the whole “separate finn and poe�� thing ryain pulled for the shits and giggles.

2B. Rose. I was pretty chill with Rose, she had a dope backstory, her sister was badass, and I liked that they made that connection off the bat. I’m not mad about anything rayn did with her character but i genuinely believe thats only because i havent thought about it enough yet. give me a week and i’ll figure out how rain fucked it up. open to suggestions.

2C. Poe. Full offense but was I supposed to be mad at Poe for coming up with a plan when that bitch Holdo was like “I’m not gonna tell you my plan sit tight and be convinced we are all going to die :)” i legitimately did not understand how I was supposed to be mad at poe for doing what he thought was best for the rebellion after he asked holdo what the plan was and she was deliberately obstinate and refused to even be like “dont worry i have a plan” she was just like. so dumb. Also poe got thrown around a lot and i am A Little Suspicious of how much physical violence he experienced compared to many other characters.

2D. You guessed what was next! The slaps! Super awesome how the two men of color were slapped by white people!!!! So deep!!!!!!! For real tho uh the second time i saw this movie someone in the audience laughed when poe got slapped by space hitler hux and uh??? not funny. not funny or cute or clever to use the guy you built your entire nazi imagery on to slap the one black man on your cast. i dont care if it was supposed to make us “hate hux” or whatever more. i already hated hux reyn. you could have used that screentime in your 3 fucking hour long movie for something valuable, like giving finn a character arc, or literally anything else besides that goddamn slap. i was livid watching that.

and then with leia and poe? i get that part of the conflict was internal in the resistance and one of the major themes was how failure is the best teacher and all that but like? maybe stop physically assaulting all your characters of color? maybe uhhhh at least think about that first??

2E. like i mentioned before one of the obvious themes was how failure is the best teacher so naturally all the major characters had to fail at something, and then learn from their mistake to be better next time. with luke it was fucking up with kyle, with rey it was being naive enough to think kyle could turn, with poe it was the dreadnaught thing, finn was left out of this because raan dooesn give a shit abt finn bc hes a racist bastard, etc. but it was incredibly transparent how all of the white characters’ mistakes meant either personal losses or something small scale with one person, while the mistakes of the characters of color (poe/finn/rose) were all ones that cost the rebellion the vast majority of their forces. rey got out of her fight with kyle and snoke unscathed. luke got a lot of guilt and character development. What did finn poe and rose get? the deaths of like 99% of the resistance on their shoulders. A little too coincidental that even though rey LITERALLY GAVE HERSELF OVER TO SNOKE she was totally fine a-ok no real scars, finn and poe and rose doing their best to save the rebellion while admiral holdo refuses to tell them anything costs the resistance so fucking much. rey does the DUMBEST FUCKING THING with no real consequences and finn and poe and rose try their best and are punished severely for it.

2F. Really convenient how everything finn, poe, and rose did ended up being useless and just cost the rebellion lives, whereas at least rey’s mishap got snoke killed and taught her a lesson. reeeeaaaalllllyyyyyy convenient how finn, poe, and rose’s plan was a huge waste of time. it would have been much better for us to see an actual plot line with them that contributed to the story and their characterizations instead of “send them on a goose chase, make it pointless in the end, physically brutalize them along the way.

3. R*yl* bullSHIT: ryyn had a really fun time with a lot of very rape-y scenes in this movie. the whole force-connection thing with kyle and rey was soooooo uncalled for, it reeked of non-con fantasies, catered to the r*yl*s like nothing ever before, and was so goddamn gross. the obvious invasion of privacy and lack of consent was nasty, using it as a shitty device to make rey “come around” on kyle was NASTY and that whole thing was nasty. i know im not articulating this well but there was so much about that whole thing that bothered me. i just know reyhan was so fucking into it, inserting kyle into rey’s life, forcing her to completely drop all of her characterization in the first movie to suddenly thing kyle can be good, acting as if rey hasnt seen all the shit and known what hes done. the whole thing was gross and a really obvious example of why men shouldn’t be allowed to direct movies.

4. killing snoke was a dumbass fucking mistake. kyle is a tantrum-throwing temper-losing toddler. snoke was evil and mysterious and shit idk. we knew he was powerful as fuck, he looked like a testicle which is a great villain imo, he was the darth sidious and they killed him off while kyle is still in like. ep2!Anakin levels of angst. i get that kyle is already powerful or whatever but like. hes not cold and calculated the way snoke was. kyle is a good villain, but a weak main baddie bc hes dumb as fuck. he let the rebellion get away bc he was pissed at luke. that was dumb as fuck. kyle is ruined by his emotions, and snoke was a scarier main baddie bc he wasnt so fucking dumb lol

5. it was so fucking long. there were so many scenes that could have been cut or shortened. why did we need to see luke milking the tiddy of that weird alien cow thing. why did we need to see kyle ron shirtless. why did we need so many goddamn shots of the fucking porgs.

6. ya the porgs are cute or whatever but like. that whole “look at how sad the cute big-eyes porg is when chewie is eating his friend” thing was so dumb. i dunno why but i hated that the most. that was the worst thing the porgs did. they were cute but like chill disney u know they like ran algorithm after algorithm to make that porg the cutest it could be with science or some bullshit and like? thats dumb.

7. i get that the humor in star wars movies is shifting but i felt like there was too much of it and it was dumb. a lot of the riffs werent funny and there were too many of them for a star wars film. star wars usually doesnt take itself too seriously, but this one was a little too much for me.

8. there were too many plot twists for shock value. the story went on too long. it should have ended earlier but it didnt. i dont know why ryenn decided to have like 6 different climaxes but it was too much. should have let there be one climax buddy. thats it.

9. holdo. besides holdo being the white feminist icon why didnt she just fucking tell poe the plan. why. why was so deliberately obstinate when it was doing no good. like yeah of course poe sent out a crew to try to save the rebellion all u told him to shut up and let you handle it! obvously what she did in the end was badass or whatever but like uh hun next time dont be a piece of shit and then get mad when people react to you being a piece of shit. i would have been okay with all that happening if holdo wasnt treated like some hero who never made any mistakes. she did make a mistake, and that was refusing to tell poe what her plan was when she knew he was absolutely the type to do whatever he could to save the rebellion whether he had her permission or not. also apparently holdo is a lesbian or bi or not straight or something in like the comics or whatever and like 1. classic bury ur gays but also 2. no more word of god gay characters if a character is not gay in the movies i will not give you the gay cred for it sorry homophobes

10. i didnt buy the story w luke and kyle at lukes jedi training facility or whatever. surprisingly, i was ok with lukes story line and character development, and actually agreed with it for the most part, but i just like. i dunno i didnt feel like that was something luke would do. not because luke is infallible (even tho he is my gay dad who has never done anything wrong ever) but because the entire original trilogy is luke believing darth vader could be saved. and while im not opposed to luke changing his mind about whether or not everyone could be turned away from the dark side (luke was young and optimistic in the original trilogy, and as he grew older he would learn more about the jedi and their history like the whole speech he gave rey about how the jedi have to end bc theyre lowkey shitty). i actually kind of liked luke’s hot take on the jedi, because it was lowkey my hot take on the jedi (esp the prequels jedi who were shitty as Fuuuuuck but we are ignoring the prequels for now lbr) but also because i could believe it was a view luke would come to as he aged. but impulsively drawing his lightsaber to kill kyle before he had actually done anything bad, after suspecting that kyle had darkness in him for a while, even though he felt like he had failed? it just didnt feel like luke to me. i felt more like raeyn had chosen that particular backstory to try to make kyle a more sympathetic villain rather than give a believable and in-character back story for the characters. i understand that luke’s failure ultimately has to lead to the creation of kyle ron in this story line, but that didnt feel like the right failure to me. maybe this is just me being nitpicky but that felt off to me too and i dont know if i can quite pinpoint why.

11. rey was a dumbass fucking bitch in this movie. rey could not be a dumbass fucking bitch to survive as a scavenger who was orphaned at birth on jakku. rey would have had to be smart and not as fucking DUMB as she was in this movie. now im getting heated so i cant articulate this well but she just did so many dumb things that anybody who had to raise themselves would have never done. she would never have delivered herself over to kyle ron like what a dumb fucking idea. who wrote this goddamn movie. fuck u ryeen.

12. why did yoda come back as a force ghost. where is anakins force ghost. he would be so fucking pissed at kyle right now. he would be mad as hell. he would have ended this thing. he would have called kyle out like the shitdickbitch he is and put him in his place. i get that yoda is more like ancient and orginal star wars jedi knowledge shit or whatever and like more of an authority on the jedi but like anakin is off in like force ghost hawaii drinking force ghost martinis while his shitty fucking grandson is being a piece of shit?? nah man anakin would have shut that shit down they better bring him back for ep IX and i expect hayden christensen himself to show up to bitch at kyle about what a fucking dumbass he is.

tbh theres probably more like i know there’s a ton of little things i hated but as scathing as this review is there were things i liked. visually speaking it was a very beautiful movie when we werent getting atrocious close ups of adam drivers ugly ass face. i originally hated but have come to appreciate the darker tone, since it mirrors the mood of TESB in that the rebellion seems dead but obviously isnt bc this is star wars. i liked luke. i dunno. i had a lot of issues with the movie obviously. to be quite honest i cant actually think of anything else i liked atm which is telling.

anyway if anybody actually reads this long ass fucking post feel free to respond with what you hated abt TLJ

[steinfeldofrph]

SURVEY RESULTS!

so! a week or so ago, i annoyed you all by constantly reblogging a link to a survey to help improve my blog? 53 of you guys responded which was really cool so thanks to those who take time out of their day to do so! below the cut, i’ve responses and next steps to the things you guys said as well as responses to things you’ve said so if you said something and you wanna see if i responded, click read more. or if you’re just curious:

My queue is currently set at 8 posts a day. This means a post every three hours. Is this too little, too less or okay?

that was question one and these were the results:

18.86% said “too little”

81.14% said “alright”

nobody said too little

next steps: the queue will stay as it is since its an overwhelming majority!

Do you think I reblog too many of the same people in terms of fc pictures/resources/etc to the point it becomes annoying?

that was question number two and these were the results:

90.6% said no

3.8% said yes

the rest said that things among the lines, “i follow you because you reblog those fcs”, “some more age and gender diversity” and “you’re fine”

next steps: no next steps really since no one said anything of concern. i’ll try and keep it up!

then i asked people if there was any they didn’t like and most of you guys said n/a accept for hailee steinfeld, olivia holt and dylan sprayberry. i tag every celebrity as “firstname lastname” so hailee is always tagged as “hailee steinfeld” pls feel free to blacklist but i will be slowing down on all three! hailee posts will most likely be limited to three posts a week maybe 4

then there was this dude:

first of all nobody has said anything before this survey so clearly i wasn’t annoying people that much so a) those people are blocked and b) you’re just a whiny bitch. anyways

I currently have a tag called "poc" where i put all non-white resources, psds etc. Would tags such as "poc psd" and "poc gif pack" be more suitable?

that was question number four i think? a lot of you pressed other so i can’t give decent percentages but thank you for your replies

next steps: i will be creating new tags for poc and tagging gif packs etc featuring people of colour as a separate thing. i will make a post when this is in effect. i will also create a whole poc section in my navi. thanks again to everybody!

What types of themes would you like me to reblog more of? Can select multiple options.

most of you guys picked all of them so it was pretty even tbh. some selected the other option and said pages and more accessible themes

next steps: i will do my very best to reblog more of each of those things. please don’t be mad if you don’t see immediate change because im busy these days and all!

What resources would you like me to reblog more of in general? Can select multiple options.

im gonna go for top two because they were in the lead:

77.4% said underused fcs

73.6& said gif packs

next steps: i will try and reblog both! i’ve found a few blogs that post exclusively underused fcs and i will regularly check tags such as “gif pack” to reblog from. 

the next question was about trigger warnings and i won’t post them now but i am gonna make a list and a post announcing the list when it’s ready. 

next was literally a free for all so im gonna answer things that i will are a concern:

well i sometimes try to request you something but it takes a lot before i gets answers and there is no rush but maybe make a todo list of requests you've accepted out of the messages you haven't replied to yet, so us requesters know if you got it/accepted it sofia says: i do have a tag. it’s stated on my faq too! im rlly busy these days so i don’t sometimes see something? you’re more than welcome to hit my ims up since im on mobile most of the time. sorry about the delays but please send a message confirming whether or not i got something. if i accept something, it’s replied to as well as denied stuff

more resources for graphic makers maybe?? a tag for all resources would be cool too. dont know if u have a mobile WID but that would also be nice imo. unsure tbh? but i tried!! sofia says: i’ll aim to reblog more textures but since im not a graphics maker myself idk what to reblog lmao. i do have a mobile wid! log onto my blog on mobile and you’ll see a link under my description. u did good bb thank u!

Christmas header!!! Girl, change it. But in terms of your actual theme, I adore it and it's gorgeous! sofia says: honey i kno!!!! i haven’t had the time to log into ps these days but it will be changed... before christmas :D

I think your blog is pretty swell as it is and it kind of makes me wanna become a rph??? so if you've got any tips please share tysm  sofia says: dsbjgjbs thank u! um as for tips: stay in ur lane, reblog a lot of things and make things aswell. don’t be afraid to send yourself anons requesting things to get yourself out there!

i love your blog, i think you are one of the best rph's still going. you seem to stay out of most drama and just focus on helping people which is amazing. the one suggestion i have would be to stop reblogging gif icons if they weren't made by scratch from the op? sofia says: yeah i don’t do that anymore unless they are made from gif packs but i’ll keept that in mind???? sometimes ppl don’t have a choice and have to use gif hunts bc they can’t gif themselves/they don’t have the time

i do wish you posted less disney/nick fcs and maybe considered posting more mature actors but i wouldn't complain about which fcs you liked on your blog!! you're doing great and i love you and would love to be in a group with you if you ever want to post rp recs :) sofia speaks: yeah i will agree on that! my next season long project is most likely going to focus on an actor 30+ so look out! and i only make them because im tired of y’all using 30+ fcs as early 20s so i offer more variety????? but like i said i get what you mean! as for groups im in sidekickhq so hmu ! im also down for 1x1s

Less "REMINDER THAT..." "JUST SO YOU KNOW" "CALL OUT POST" "OMG THEY ARE SO PROBLEMATIC" posts? I know the tea is good™ but I don't want to open a rph blog and only find drama, you know? Also, what is the point of doing an honest survey if you are going to complain when someone says something about your blog that you don't like? The "too many resources of one fc that annoys you" question was there with Hailee in mind and she was the first one to come to everyone's mind, regardless of your URL. Everytime there is a "Sofia Speaks"post it's more of Sofia Complains and it didn't use to be like that? I miss your positive vibes and posts. sofia says: alright honey take a fucking seat because i have shit to say to your and your whiny ass. first of y’all you’re the one who sounds hella drama filled tbh. and i don’t really reblog those and when i do it’s got proof and it’s me saying don’t play rapists guys! sorry if you’re so offended by that and call it drama???? and like 2 people said hailee out of 53???? so uhhhhh where are you getting everyone from buddy? where’s your proof????????? and im allowed to use my tag for when i want????? it’s tagged so people can blacklist it? why do your think i tag it lmao??????????? and im not even here these days tbh? anyways i really want your to unfollow me if you haven’t and there is a line between constructive criticism and just bitching. you’re just bitching. and not in a good kinda stranger things way.

talk to us more 😤 sofia says: literally hit me up in my ims! and im sorry i seem distant im just so busy rip! but please come to me i will love you down!

and we’re done! thanks guys for your responses! see you around!

[viralhottopics]

Trump v Hollywood? Don’t expect to see the culture war play out on screen

Industry figures might march in protests or give critical speeches, but waging a crusade against the White House is not in the job description

Meryl Streep used her Golden Globes acceptance speech to fire what appeared to be an opening salvo in Americas latest culture war: Hollywood v Donald Trump.

The actor excoriated him as a xenophobic bully in a podium address that turned her Cecil B DeMille award into a rallying cry against the president-elect.

The assembled film-makers stamped and cheered and tweeted, a surge of star-studded liberal solidarity uniting the likes of Ben Affleck, Julianne Moore and Viola Davis.

Robert De Niro followed up with a congratulatory letter amplifying Streeps call to arms. I share your sentiments about punks and bullies. Enough is enough … it is so important that we ALL speak up.

Trump led a counter-charge by branding Streep, probably Hollywoods most revered actor, overrated and a Hillary Clinton flunkey, attack lines echoed by his supporters.

And so, days before the Trump era officially begins, battle is joined. Hollywoods cultural avatars going up against a president with the nuclear codes and a Republican Congress.

It would make a great movie, but theres the rub Hollywoods enmity may not transfer to the screen.

Industry figures may march in protests, fulminate in speeches and donate to Democrats yet channel little of that ardour into films and television shows.

Its more about box office than any other agenda, said Paul Dergarabedian, senior analyst for the box office tracker comScore. I dont see any particular agenda besides lots of franchises to bring people into theaters. More Marvel superheroes, more DC superheroes, more sequels.

Meryl Streep used her Golden Globes acceptance speech to criticize Donald Trump. Photograph: Paul J. Richards/AFP/Getty Images

He was referring to big studio fare, but the industry as a whole could disappoint those hoping for a liberal, inclusive wave from Los Angeles to counter rightwing populism from Washington.

Hollywood, after all, is still dominated by white men who like to make films and shows built around other white men, fictional and real, who slash, shoot and zap other characters in the hope, ultimately, of putting butts in seats. Waging a cultural crusade against the White House is not in the job description.

You will see people stand up and use their star power to say things in front of an audience, but studios look at the bottom line, said Michele Burke, a makeup artist with two Oscars. Truly we are artists, and most people here want to create great films, great stories. But at the end of the day this is a huge money-making machine.

Nobody denies this, but Tinseltowns self-mythology dwells on its progressive, tyranny-fighting credentials Charlie Chaplin mocking Hitler in The Great Dictator; Humphrey Bogart resisting Nazis in Casablanca; Kirk Douglas, in real life, facing down McCarthyite witch-hunts.

Stars who blunder, such as Hanoi Jane Fonda posing with North Vietnamese troops during the Vietnam war, are usually forgiven. (Likewise, the music industry shook off the row about Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks chastising George W Bush.)

Hollywoods left-leaning tilt is undeniable. Bill and Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and other Democrats have long used it as an ATM, minting millions at fundraisers hosted by the likes of George Clooney and Jeffrey Katzenberg. The political analytics firm Crowdpac studied federal campaign contributions dating back to 1980 and concluded the entertainment industry was one of Americas most liberal professions, along with academia and news media.

Stars occasionally make films that echo their political views for instance, Clooneys Good Night, and Good Luck or Robert Redfords Lions for Lambs.

Boris Zelkin, a film composer who leans politically conservative/libertarian, said liberal bias was ubiquitous. Can you name a show where theres a sane or compassionate conservative? Or smart Christians without a skeleton in their closet? Or a non-evil corporation? It doesnt have to be an active jab at conservatives, its what they dont show.

Mary McNamara, the LA Timess TV critic, in contrast, scotches the notion of progressive bias, saying Hollywood wallows in nostalgia, elides class and relies on white male heroes across galaxies, through the centuries, in every genre imaginable.

Explicit political partisanship seldom works well on screen, said Marty Kaplan, director of the Norman Lear Center at the University of Southern California. Hollywood is most successful creatively as well as commercially when it conveys the American dream and the struggles to realize it. The industry loves stories about people who succeed against long odds, no matter what their backgrounds, because the audience loves those stories, too.

Movies that show struggles against prejudice, poverty, ignorance, oppression and fear reflect liberal values only in the sense that reality has a well-known liberal bias, said Kaplan, quoting Stephen Colbert. If there were big money to be made telling stories celebrating home schooling, semi-automatic rifle ownership, the bullying of gays, white supremacism, misogyny or xenophobia, Hollywood would be racing to make them.

Will Trump affect storylines?

He exploded into the presidential race in June 2015 by calling Mexican immigrants rapists and swiftly became the Republican frontrunner, without noticeable effect on studio output, said Dergarabedian, the analyst. This cycle went on for 18 months but I didnt find any impact.

Donald Trumps vandalized star along the Hollywood walk of fame is tended to and cleaned up before being replaced. Photograph: Frederic J. Brown/AFP/Getty Images

A liberal response is now stirring. The executive producer of Jane the Virgin has reportedly ditched the shows Ivanka Trump shoes and urged the writers to insert a storyline about registering Latinos to vote. ABCs Black-ish devoted an episode to his win.

But Hollywood may also start paying more heed to white, working-class Trump supporters, on and off screen. ABC Entertainment Group president Channing Dungey told an industry summit that the network had overlooked some of the true realities of what life is like for everyday Americans in our dramas.

Natalie Portman, who campaigned for Clinton in Pennsylvania, told the Guardian that her liberal bubble had blinkered her to Trumps rise. Thats maybe part of the problem. We dont interact enough with people from different political persuasions.

Another problem is Hollywoods gender imbalance. Bashing Trump for sexism, on or off screen, is awkward given an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission investigation into Hollywood pay discrimination.

Somewhat remarkably given … the abundant attention the diversity issue has received over the last couple of years the percentages of women working in important behind-the-scenes roles actually declined last year, said Martha Lauzen, author of annual Celluloid Ceiling reports.

The most recent study, out this week, found that women comprised just 7% of directors on the top 250 films, down from previous years. Either by accident, design or training, behind-the-scenes individuals tend to create characters reflecting their own sex, Lauzen said.

Some critics dismiss the culture war idea as absurd given that Trump, a Manhattan tycoon-turned reality TV star, is a product of Hollywood.

Not only that, but the industry paved his political insurrection with films such as Jimmy Stewarts crusading outsider in Mr Smith Goes to Washington and Sidney Lumets Network, which encouraged everyone to open their windows and scream, Im mad as hell and Im not going to take it any more, argued LA Times film critic Kenneth Turan. The movies were key in creating the cultural forces that made voting for Donald Trump seem like a fine idea.

If Streeps broadside at the Golden Globes was any guide, the Oscars will crackle with more denunciations, which will in turn provoke reactions from the new president and his supporters. A collision of art, celebrity and politics that, however heartfelt, will entertain, and ultimately perhaps add up to just that entertainment.

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