#i think ur thinking of like ashley tisdale and some other disney stars at a specific point in the 2000s but

[mithliya]

Your anon who said about her LGB friends looking back at when they were kids, and they dressed gnc so their parents knew - I'm wondering whether a factor of that is more to do with fashion for kids has changed.

I grew up in the 90's/2000's and most of my clothes were gnc (only really party clothes weren't). This was normal. If you go further back still to my parents era, this applied even more. We talk about it all the time how 13 year olds now look older and dress older than I ever did. Look at what they've put young celebrities in (eg stranger things cast) compared to young celebrities 20, 30, 50 years ago! Especially with young girls - the hyper sexualisation has gone off the walls. Overalls, sweat pants, jeans have all been replaced by clothing that makes them look twice their age. There was a new Kpop group that debuted recently. The youngest member was 16, and she looked older than me and I'm in my late twenties.

Sure I had friends growing up who were 'super girly' but mostly we all ran around in comfy clothes to roll in the mud in.

hm i agree its even more sexualised now but i disagree that overall young celebrities werent sexualised back then.

brooke shields in the late 1970s:

she was between like 10 and 15 in these pics. i havent shared the worst of it bc u get the idea with these.

natalie portman at 12-13:

u can look up the films leon the professional where she was further sexualised bc i dont wanna share it here either.

britney spears' hit song hit me baby one more time was when she was 16

jodie foster when she was 12 in taxi driver where they cast her as a child prostitute and sexualised her

these are just famous examples but young female celebs have been sexualised since forever and honestly, there was fewer barriers and they were more exploited when it did happen. at least now the media has SOME criticism of it when it happens. in the 2000s and before, male celebs would openly be dating underage girls and the media wouldnt even care for it & would glorify those relationships. 2 of the women i mentioned were cast as child prostitutes and sexualised heavily in the movies that got them known, one was even posing nude in hugh hefner's magazine as a 10 year old. these arent necessarily the worst examples but it shows enough for u to realise this issue was always concerning, just in different ways. comparatively this is millie bobby brown when she was 13:

besides i think when gay ppl say that, theyre referring to themselves as being more gnc than whatever the current gender norms are. i do think femininity nowadays has become even more restrictive compared to the more recent previous decades (which werent necessarily liberating either) tho and i do think a certain level of gender non-conformity was more stylish in certain years