#i they both definitely have breakup songs in them but i think in terms of the energy and theses of both of those albums they aren’t about

[love-belle]

i should hate u !!!

*ੈ✩‧₊˚ in which their post break-up era is them using shady captions to communicate and the media and fans being confused.

or

for when you loved them too much. ˚ ༘♡ ⋆｡˚

social media au // max verstappen x fem!reader

sequel - today and tomorrow and every day after that ⋆·˚ ༘ *

warnings - language

author's note - hello!!! i really hope u like this <3 i was initially gonna do daniel ricciardo one first but i already had 1/2 of this done so i just decided to post this :) thank u sm for reading <3 i love u

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f1news y/n y/l/n and max verstappen called it quits almost a month ago and it seems like they didn't end on good terms at all. the singer, at her london show last night, threw shade at her ex-boyfriend, saying and we quote, "the next song wouldn't have been possible without this one dude who inspired it obviously. so — here's 'i should hate you'. spoiler alert, i do. thank you!" the reason for the split is still unknown but sources who claim to be close to the pair said that 'it was bound to happen — with their different goals and plans for the future," seemingly referring to the talks that y/l/n wanted to get married and verstappen didn't. both of them have yet to comment on the situation. for more details, click on the link in our bio.

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maxverstappen1 i know i say that i am better now, spoiler alert, i am

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maxverstappen1 it's all better now

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[slaaverin]

Tbh I'm a jikooker, but I find it incredibly difficult to fit a healthy long-term relationship into the same timeline as all of jimin's solo work. It's not the pronouns or taking one lyric very literally, its the entire thing, plus comments from him and his producers. To me, you'd have to do some serious olympic level mental gymnastics to make that make sense. I don't doubt that jikook have a special bond, I've definitely seen things between them that definitely look like sexual attraction to me and things that surpass friendship boundaries, but I can't in good faith say that they're together in some official long-term way if I actually listen to jimin and his work.

I've seen some jikookers think they broke up for a while, but I have to question if those people have ever been through a breakup because the little bit of distance/separation/awkwardness we did see from them during chapter 2 is nothing compared to the type of tension that would be there if a relationship that intimate and intertwined had separated, especially considering the dark feelings jimin was feeling. He wouldn't have been cutely commenting on jungkook's lives and jungkook wouldn't have been asking to hang-out or getting excited to see jimin in his comments.

Idk, I'm sure someone could twist everything a certain way and only take certain things at face-value and then make everything else abstract, etc. to make the case that they are together, but I don't really see it. You look at face-off, alone, and just his general dark feelings during Face, then look at the creation of Muse and how him and his producers said he couldn't relate to the love-dovey beginning songs, which is how they ended up making Who (despite the fact that jikookers try to distance him from the song since he doesn't have writing credits even though he sat in the recording room telling them what he wanted and saying it felt like reading his diary). I think jimin could have very well gone through a pretty awful breakup along with the inner turmoil he was going through post-covid, but I don't think it was with jungkook if he did. I still enjoy jikook's bond either way at the end of the day, but yeah I don't really get how anyone can take an honest look at jimin's work and his words and think he was in a long-term healthy love-of-his-life relationship during that time or into chapter 2.

Not trying to change your opinion or anything, honestly I don't really see it discussed much in jikooker spaces (besides bad-faith stuff like tkkers stirring up shit over pronouns in lyrics which is just dumb) and when it is, some jikookers are pretty pick-and-choose about what they deem to be true to jimin's feelings and what isn't. Which I get being nuanced, but sometimes it does feel like a "well this fits my beliefs so clearly this is true to jimin and this doesn't so it means nothing because he didn't write it" or whatever. I honestly get annoyed with the bad-faith arguers because it prevents being able to have actual discussions about some of this stuff in our little jikooker corner of tumblr. Like "he said her, he's clearly straight! he danced with a girl, straight!" stfu.

You are entitled to your opinion.

I agree that what came up with MUSE really surprised me. It was not what I anticipated at all. But some little details makes me think it's not all black and white (Like Jimin's comment about us getting it wrong). To me Face was a more personal album for sure. But both albums do not personally deviates me from my belief that jikook are a couple.

Face was very introspective and made with a very strong creative vision. To me this is Jimin's masterpiece. I'm sure he put a lot of himself in this album. But what did he put in the end of the album, as a HIDDEN track? Jungkook. It wasn't for public eye, yet he still put a bit of him in it. To me, this is very telling.

Jimin is not the type to reveal his private relationship to the world. It's simply not his style. But as Face was very personal, Letter featuring Jungkook sits at the end, hidden, yet apparent. It shows his connexion with Jungkook is VERY close to his heart.

But he didn't have to scream it everywhere in his album, or any other album for that matter. Even if Jungkook is very important to Jimin, that's not all he has in his life. Like everyone he has his own struggles and such. I think it can be very difficult to interpret art "correctly" when we don't have all the information. Jimin had a vision for both Face and Muse, but creating art does not mean leaning on reality 100%. Art does not come only from personal experience. People can write songs as concepts that have nothing to do with them. Of course there's always something from the creator, but personally I wouldn't feel confident basing my belief in jikook's relationship on a few songs. Because the interpretation can be so vastly different from a person to the next, we'll never know what Jimin's true intentions were at the end of the day. We can guess but that's it.

What I am very confident in, is what we have actually observed and heard from their own mouth; conversations and attitudes and body language and many proofs of a very deep connexion that jikook have. That's reliable. Art is not.

The little doubts that one can infere doesn't take away my feelings about the thousands other things we know. One is about not knowing and one is about witnessing and observing and understanding not with the mind but with our hearts.

AYS was once again a very apparent confirmation of everything we knew.

I do not think jikook broke up at any point in chapter 2 despite being maybe separated a little more physically for a while.

So I understand your point anon, but personally a few songs won't change 10 years worth of moments, of life they spent together for me. Actions always speak way louder than words. But of course it's always interesting to talk about each other's interpretations.

Thank you for sharing your view and take care 💜

[dreamly]

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i agree with a lot of music fans and journalists/critics/artists that “lockdown”/“pandemic”/“quarantine” albums usually aren’t great and also don’t do very well, but i do think there is one truly incredible (at least in quality i haven’t looked at numbers and tbh i don’t really care) and maybe not the most obvious exception (well maybe it is obvious but i don’t see this album talked about a lot since like the month it came out and i don’t think i’ve seen it talked about in the conversations about art inspired by covid-19/lockdowns). anyway can we play a little game where you guys guess what album it is (this might help me find more good music or at least music you think i’d like as well as be [hopefully] fun!)

[izzysillyhandsy]

Ed and Izzy: Cleaning up the mess

As of the end of Ep7, Ed has left Stede and his whole life behind because "he doesn't even know who he is". And I'd like to suggest in this rambling essay that Ed's journey to self-knowledge and self-love can't properly begin before he's come to terms with what happened with Izzy.

Although Ed has steadily been trying to make amends, at the start of Ep6 he's still feeling unsettled and guilty as hell about the terrible things he did (was capable of!): killing his dad, condemning his whole crew to certain death, Izzy's toe, shooting Izzy, being "killed" by Jim and the crew with Izzy looking on...

There's a surprising amount of Izzy in Ed's flashback (I was honestly surprised the toe cutting made it in - somehow the whole discussion around "Izzy deserving it" made me think Ed thought so as well? But of course he doesn't think that. Izzy does.)

And while Ed's central conflict is his underlying self-hatred and self-doubt, there still is a daily reminder of all of his worst tendencies and (still very recent) acts right under his nose.

I think I got all the poison out of my system...

...or not. The indestructible fucker's still here.

Izzy is Ed’s walking and talking guilt room and no amount of deflecting, story-telling or sugarcoating can turn that poison into positivity.

Stede, I love you for your sometimes naive, sweet outlook on life (and Ed does too), but Ed and Izzy, that’s years and years of love and devotion, resentment and hate, building each other up and tearing each other down. They’ve just come out of the absolute worst breakup in history, with so many things unsaid and unknown they’d need the whole of S3 to talk it through.

Stede applying his motivational poster line to Izzy of all people is a little bit tone deaf, especially because it happens right while Izzy’s singing a bittersweet love song about/to Ed.

Which he continues, in French, while Ed and Stede are having sex for the first time so that's definitely not helping. I wonder how good Ed's French is, but it is honestly almost comical to imagine Ed cheating on Iz making love to his new boyfriend while his ex is singing his heart out about „It's only him for me, and me for him, for life - he told me, he swore to me, for life“.

So Izzy's still here. Izzy is still visibly hurting, physically (your fault!!) and mentally (your fault as well in so many ways). And you're already over it and having fun with your new boyfriend? Of course not.

Whatever they were/are to each other specifically, Ed and Izzy were as good as married. They spent almost every day together for decades. Izzy let himself be maimed and hurt over and over again out of love and loyalty. And Ed feels very, very guilty about it. Even if this guilt is not the first thing constantly on Ed's mind, it's certainly there in the background, simmering.

On the other hand, Izzy is the one who kept Ed stationary - they had a good, secure (for pirates anyway) life together, why risk change? I don't think Izzy had noticed (or wanted to notice) how bad it'd gotten for Ed for a long time. So there's also a lot of resentment there from Ed's side, all tied up with Izzy.

It's a very complicated mess and I think that all this is at least part of the reason for Ed's confusion and need to... just go.

But that's not all, by far.

History repeating itself...

...maybe this seems a bit familiar?

We don't know a lot of Ed&Izzy's backstory (apart from: it's a long one!), but I think it's (almost) canon that it is Izzy's job to make sure Ed is content and safe and, most importantly, to kill for Ed.

And even though their relationship (whatever it was) probably didn't start out as tender and sweet as Ed/Stede, I think they started out much more carefree and happy, possibly excited and adventurous. Until their lifestyle took a toll on both of them - Izzy as Ed's killer and constant protector and Ed as Blackbeard, who Ed started to resent more and more. In the end, all that was left were two broken people in a codependent relationship.

Now it seems like gentle, sweet Stede is slowly turning into Izzy 2.0 - swearing (as far as I remember, Stede almost never said fuck in S1), becoming a "real pirate", and worst of all, killing for Ed even though Ed almost begged him not to (seems familiar?).

Plus, this is happening when Ed, still freshly traumatized from his stint as pirate extreme wants nothing to do with violence in general and piracy specifically. Least of all he wants Stede damaged (or izzyfied).

Stede seemed like a way out of pirating, a chance for a loving, fulfilling relationship. Maybe even a way out of his relationship with Izzy, who I think Ed (subconsciously?) blames for the destructive path his life had taken.

Now he isn't so sure anymore if Stede actually wants this.

Talk it through...

...eventually, maybe. Hopefully.

Of course, not every obstacle Ed has to face, every step on the road to self-love and happiness is about Izzy. Vice versa, Izzy is much more than his relationship with Ed, and he has his own problems independent from him.

But this "marriage" with Izzy was Ed’s longest and most important relationship, and also the last relationship before Stede. The way their relationship became restrictive, damaging and unescapable in the end was both their faults. It'd be quite natural if Ed was a bit cautious with that kind of history. Am I a person who always ends up like this? How did we fuck up this badly? Is there a way out?

Most importantly though, a lot of Ed’s guilt and self-doubt is wrapped up in Izzy - if you're capable of doing that (and that, and that) to the person you love - what else are you capable of?

In conclusion, Ed and Izzy need real closure, one way or the other. Before that happens, Ed won't be happy on any way he chooses, and certainly not in his relationship with Stede.

At the moment, they're not talking, really. It's incredibly sweet though, the way they make these little concessions towards the other (Izzy doing much more than Ed, as per usual). They're almost shy, asking for advice, giving reassurance and understanding, and sharing bottles, smiles and looks.

Will they get a long heart-to-heart in the finale? Of course not, there's not enough time. I think we might get a symbolic moment though.

Ed already knows Izzy loves him. Izzy really doesn't know (on top of everything else, poor kid). The only thing he got from Ed was the "Sorry 'bout your leg", even the latch got a bit more.

Izzy needs to hear that too. "It's not your fault you're broken. You didn't break you. Just trying to do your job, weren't you?"

(btw, I love that Ed is softly blowing onto the latch here, while Izzy is doing the same to his little shark <3)

It's also possible Izzy will get his "I loved you, best I could" in person. Hopefully not exactly in those words. But, for both of them, this will be a start to open proper communication (which might happen offscreen between seasons).

And when we get S3, Ed will be (more) prepared to embark on his journey to happiness, with or without Izzy by his side.

[sophaeros]

I think I'm hf in the exact same thing as you rn I just found your blog I am also obsessed with band rpf and Casablanca's/hammond jr do u have a kind of manifesto or anything I can read

dude did one of my irls send this or smth..i was literally Just talking about putting together a masterdoc and they were egging me on BSJFJWBS. i mean i'm kinda working on one but no promises bc im terrible w long term projects and also theyre very difficult to figure out

BUT i Will say (and i've seen other random people online agree w me) i think the general timeline is that during the seven years they lived together from 1998 to 2005 jules was down bad for albert but albert didn't realise his own feelings, so the most that might've happened is some fooling around physically. (this is mainly going off of this page from the meet me in the bathroom book where jules says "albert, you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone, baby!" insane quote. i could talk a little more about their full quotes but that's another post)

sometime between 2005 and 2013 (possibly 2011 tbh, comedown machine is The gay situationship album but angles touches on it a lot too) they dated twice and broke up both times. im not sure who broke up w who but tentatively i would say the first breakup was more acrimonious while the second breakup might've been mutual.

it's difficult to say anything for sure because most of their songs have songwriting credits shared with other people, so looking at lyrics for clues has a pretty big margin of error since a line might've been written by someone else and not them, yknow? i mean rpf is never a "for sure" kind of deal i could be entirely wrong and that would be fine but. you get what i mean

also one way trigger is the lynchpin for me. i physically cannot imagine a platonic explanation for this poster that uses a screenshot from thelma and louise of all films. not to mention the lyrics like even my Mom raised an eyebrow at "get dressed in your bed while she's asleep." and also it's one of two strokes songs albert has ever played solo with the other being elephant song (at least according to setlistfm, im still trying to find a video of it) (edit 12/08/2034: setlistfm lied to me he did not play elephant song 💔💔💔💔) which was written, surprise surprise, by albert and julian in 1999.

i mean i guess the poster could be them fucking around and having a little laugh but come on what an insane ass joke to make man. i'm gonna make a post later about one way trigger being their specialest little song because it really is

soo like..theres still more i could talk about like one way trigger being written by the albert julian nick trio (which makes me laugh imagining nick mediating their lovers quarrel) [EDIT: ACTUALLY WAIT NO ok it's hard to find definitive information on who wrote what bc different databases have information of varying precision but the canadian site socan which is the most precise so far says only albert and jules wrote the lyrics for one way trigger i'd misremembered. albert julian nick trio Did do call it fate tho which is still kinda crazy !! also jules and albert being the only ones to do one way trigger makes me crazier jesus christ why is this depressing ass song Their Song !!!!] which is the same trio as games from angles. theres a lot i've been thinking about them nonstop for like, what, a month? give or take? my poor friends have to deal w me sending dozens of messages at a time much love and light to them if they read this muah

and thank you for the excuse to be insane on main anon 🥰

[httpiastri]

hope ure doing okayy and feeling a bit better than before!! here’s a perfectly fine thought to think about bc i can’t stop thinking about it:

yn and paul being we can’t be friends (wait for your love) by ariana grande coded 🫠🫠 imagine after the breakup and paul and yn are on okay and friendly terms again, but every time paul talks to yn the voices in my head are literally screaming and cursing and crying, telling him he can’t be just friends with her!!!!!! but every time she talks to him or something he just thinks… “i’ll settle on the thought of being her friend even though i no longer have her as my lover. that much is good enough for me” even if it breaks his heart over and over again every time he thinks about it. LIKE the thought of having just one teeny tiny space in her life is better than nothing at all…. he’d really rather have CRUMBS of her :(

“How could you ever even try? I don't wanna tiptoe, but I don't wanna hide But I don't wanna feed this monstrous fire Just wanna let this story die And I'll be alright

We can't be friends But I'd like to just pretend You cling to your papers and pens Wait until you like me again

Wait for your love Love, I'll wait for your love”

… LOOK ME IN THE EYES AND TELL ME ITS NOT YN AND PAUL. ☹️ hold me im so fragile rn.

omfggggg!! i ADORE this ask and i ADORE you!!!!!!

i hadn’t listened to this song before this ask but… ive been streaming it nonstop now, thinking about paul and yn 🫠 because it’s SO yn & paul coded omgggg. you’re a genius 🙏🙏

the thing im thinking about paul and yn is that their relationship is so complex, just like the song paints it out to be. they know they don’t wanna live without each other in their lives, and they’d rather have just a piece than nothing at all. but they also know they can’t just be friends, their bond is too strong and their past is too passionate to for them just to be able to go back to being only friends. it's definitely especially hard for them in the beginning, like... im still in love with you, how am i supposed to just be your friend?

like u said, even crumbs is better than nothing... even seeing her smile across the paddock makes paul so happy... and just seeing him on the podium in bahrain makes her happy too :(

"i dont wanna argue, but i don't wanna bite my tongue" – being so sick of their fighting all the time when they were still together, but also not wanting to just go along with it...

and just "wait for your love"........ that line hits me the hardest :( they're both just waiting for the day when they can love each other again :(((

[butmakeitgayblog]

I’m back but in friendlier and happier terms…

Have you ever heard of the song “Mujer contra Mujer” by the spanish band Mecano? (the quintessential latin ballad when there’s a even little sniff of the “they’re really close friends/roommates/work partners, aren’t they?” 🤨)

It gives Starlet AU vibes from start to finish.

Out of the two of them, who would be the one that thinks it’s not okay to keep their relationship a secret and which one is the one who more or like accepts it because what they can have for now is better than not being together at all?

Do they have any breakups in between?

I haven't heard of that before but I will!!

And honestly, it would change throughout the years. It would never be a situation of one "not being ok" because they're both closeted, they're both just as afraid of being out as the other, but there are times when one or the other will just think... is this even fucking worth it? There'd be times when they've been apart for so long or have had to lay low for so many months, times when the other has had to play out some ridiculous fucking fake relationship for the public just to sell a movie - those are the times when one or the other would question if it was worth it. Times when those quiet conversations while laying in bed turn more serious, with whispers of, "We could just stop lying. I'm tired, baby. I miss you. We could just... We could just have each other. I think that could be enough for me. I know you're enough for me."

But when morning comes they both know they won't do it, because even with all of its drawbacks and sacrifices, this is what they love to do. They ere born for it. They don't know how to do anything else it's been their respective dream since they were little. And ultimately, neither wants the other to give that up. Because while yes, their life together could be more than enough... If everything in their careers actually fell apart, there would be something missing.

And yes, they breakup a few times in the beginning, altho none it sticks. Usually over phonecalls but sometimes with one storming out of the house. Always dramatically. It's all mostly from fear of being found out, and not knowing how to navigate being in love in the shadows of the spotlight, and ridiculous jealousy that is never needed. But they never go longer than a few hours before talking again because they are damn near addicted to each other. Even if it's just through texts or calls, they never actually cut contact even when sometimes a breakup can last for weeks.

So yeah there's definitely a steep learning curve in the early years. It takes a lot of tears and long talks to figure out how to be a part of an actual couple and navigate this kind of relationship as themselves when the cameras are turned off

[poguestarkey]

theo nott and TTPD: the anthology

i have no content or writing ideas so here's TTPD: the anthology songs that make me think of theo and IF i were to make a baby fic off them what it would be about

if any stand out particularly and u want me to write feel free to request :)

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fortnight (ft. posty) - 2 week whirlwind situationship w coworker!theo at the ministry shortly after the BoH (i actually kind of want to write this but unfortunately i do not have the time rn)

the tortured poets department - this is so theo coded in general but the typewriter line gives ravenclaw!reader who is the only one theo opens up to (who else decodes you?) but theo self sabotages (per use). second verse is sooo late night in the astronomy tower

so long, london - post grad!reader and post grad!theo, nasty breakup maybe 2 years after leaving hogwarts? after being together since like fourth year (very much hs sweetheart vibes, only have ever been w that person type beat) and then reader leaves london to go teach at ilvermorny or something.

fresh out the slammer - theo being reader's longtime hookup bud during hogwarts and then reader getting out of a long term relationship with some icky man like cormac and their first call (owl?) being theo (he's happily obliging)

guilty as sin? - i actually don't even know this song is just so sexy and so theo!!! like maybe enemies to lovers, mutual pining, reader realizing they're in love w/ h0rny for theo? but has "hated" him for so long they feel guilty about it (am i allowed to cry? about not being with him bc they have "no reason" to feel that way)

loml - gonna be mean but this is theo having a longterm partner throughout hogwarts and having all the convos about marriage and kids and then completely dropping them out of the blue following graduation and never speaking again (sorry)

the smallest man who ever lived - (this is easily my fave song and probably my favorite taylor song ever!) theo and reader having a secret relationship from 4th-5th year, going public right before summer prior to 6th year, and then theo breaking up w reader during the events of HBP (probably in like october so only a monthish into the year) (reader is unaware) and reader feeling completely betrayed (this bridge is SO SUPERIOR) and blindsided (cuz it wasn't sexy once it wasn't forbidden)(lowk might write this one eventually too)

the black dog - the black dog = the three broomsticks hiiiii need i explain more?

imgonnagetyouback - classic teenage angst after a breakup, do u wanna fuck him or fight him? let's find out. this would definitely end in hateful breakup sex. probably in an empty classroom.

chloe or sam or sophia or marcus - i think unrequited love or mutual pining that was never acted on (maybe best friends?) growing apart and reader watching theo spiral knowing that part of their heart will always be attached to him

how did it end? - theo and reader being well known and engaged, calling off the engagement, and both of them only ever hearing "how did it end?" it's like in the title y'all

i look in people's windows - reader is always looking for theo in everything, even years after he left them. yeah it's depressing

peter - outside of the obvious, theo and reader breaking up at graduation, theo promising he would grow up and find himself then come find reader, goes off and lives his own life, never sees them again

the bolter - theo and reader both being avoidant attachment style and always finding each other. that's all!

thx for coming homies

[mooseyspooky]

I simply love love love your page (as a huge Smiths & especially Marrissey fan) and wanted to ask some questions I hope you don't mind me asking! ♡

○ Sorry if this is overasked, but do you think that the truth about Morrissey and Johnny will ever be revealed? Apparently, Johnny said there is more about the band's breakup than we currently know, and we'll find out at the end or something, whatever that means, lol? Also, Bernard's comment on a member (who we can all probably presume to be Mozzer) 'traumatised' Johnny is strange too...

○ Why do you think Johnny's style changed so much (looking at you Electronic lol) following the split? He was much more...gender non-conforming-ish in terms of hair/makeup/etc. in The Smiths and was comfortable emulating the more feminine looks of his favourite girl groups but suddenly went full on urban masc in Electronic. I know personal styles change, especially when you go from band to band (and perhaps it was kinda agreed with Bernard for the group's aesthetic), but it makes me wonder if he maybe wanted to distance himself from that era - the era where he may have had something a little more than friendship with Morrissey...

○ And finally (Apologies for this being so verbose), my partner and I were discussing Marrissey today and came up with the following theory and as huge fans of your blog we had to ask your opinion lol: Morrissey and Johnny were mutually attracted/into each other, but in different ways (at least in the beginning) - whilst Johnny was more casual with his approach, Morrissey saw him as the love of his life and was possibly led on. We both believe that something definitely happened between them, whether that be a chaste kiss or something more, and this effectively 'confirmed' Johnny's feelings for Moz. However, Johnny, who we both think is bisexual but didn't want to be public about it, had a realisation of 'Oh no if I take this/act on it further then the press will no doubt find out' which led Morrissey to believe that, if taking the lyrics into account as possible evidence, Johnny's 'mentality' needed to catch up to his 'biology' i.e. he needed to stop acting a certain way with Moz whilst maintaining the notion that he wasn't that way inclined in any way. We have tons and tons of theories but there are things we're both very certain about: Marrissey happened in some way, shape or form, Moz was and still might be in love with Marr, Johnny is definitely not straight (I mean we're both especially skeptical about his relationships with other men, the strangely family/friend-less rushed wedding & of course him growing up around queer folk) & lots of Smiths songs were written with Johnny in mind.

Thank you ♡

No, thank you! You're too sweet. This ask made me so happy 🤧

I'm mixed about the truth needing to be "revealed." My best friend Jeevey has talked about this concept a lot better than me - but at a certain point there's no need to reveal anything. Moz is very reserved about his lovers and his sex life. He doesn't even like to admit to being bisexual, despite writing a whole song about it (I Can Have Both). Johnny is even more tight lipped, but just by his actions and words alone we know he's very likely bisexual and in an open marriage with Angie (or in a relationship where she looks the other way when he's sexually and emotionally intimate with others). We know that Johnny and Moz were intimate, and even if, by some crazy chance, they didn't become physical with one another - they absolutely were in some type of relationship that went way beyond a normal, appropriate, platonic friendship. We know this through countless songs, pictures, videos, interviews, and books. Moz one day saying "yes, Johnny and I had sex" really doesn't change that, in my opinion.

Johnny's change in appearance in the 90s is interesting, isn't it? I think about it a lot. I mentioned in my previous ask that it was a surface level change at best, because him and Barney were fucking on the down low and aggressively flirting with one another in every interview, but there is definitely something to it. Because after Boomslang, Johnny got more femme again. He grew his hair back out, wore much tighter clothes. He had that mesh, floral shirt a few years ago. His blonde streak. His silver nail polish. Him wearing eyeliner again. So it's clear he naturally trends towards gender non-conforming. But it may very well have been to distance himself, yeah. Because he was constantly being accused of breaking up the Smiths, of abandoning Moz, of ruining his career...Johnny is so finicky about his hair that him shaving it all off in 1989 was a big deal. And that only lasted to late 1996, early 1997. Then he grew it all back. So there's this 5 year period of him seemingly trying to find who he is again after the breakup. And yet in the middle of all that he's driving Moz out to the moors and writing him lovesick letters, telling him he's so sorry and he didn't explain why he left. It definitely seems to reflect that Johnny sort of lost himself. But I know that Electronic did get a lot of influence from Italo disco/Eurobeat music, and I think that more mobster/gangster style was part of that.

Oh my gosh, I have never heard that line from I Want the One I Can't Have phrased so well - with Johnny's mentality needing to catch up with his biology. And it's so easy to think that title is Moz pining for Johnny, but it's just as applicable from Johnny's side of things, isn't it? Because of how incapable he was of accepting his sexual attraction to Moz. God. I am definitely stealing that for a fic. And yes. You're so right about all of these points. His physical need and desires for Moz was so blatant ("because you let yours flail into public view"), but his insistence that he was definitely not into men because of Angie - yes. I can see that, 100%. He lost a lot of those reservations with Bernard, they made more sexual advances with one another all the time, but in those earlier years with Moz I can imagine that Johnny was struggling to accept how deep his need for Moz was. Fantastic points all around. And god, Moz is still so in love (Darling, I hug a pillow in absence of you. Why can't you just give me some physical love?). Johnny is still gone on him, too, no matter how bitchy he gets about Moz' supposed political viewpoints. They'll never be over one another.

[golbrocklovely]

Tbh on this whole Sam and Katelyn situation, i have no real opinion, cause obviously some bigger things must have happened behind the scenes, cause i doubt that Sam reacted this way just like this. I mean he wasn’t acting this way with Katrina and Colby didn’t unfollow her either. It’s a shame it was taken to social media and that Sam at least didn’t add to his message smth like “we are broken up, but please do not hate” yk, but tbh guilty is on both side. Katelyn was the one who kinda stirred into the pot which was a dumb move from her, because if she knows that Snc have bigger fandom made mostly of young girls who are basically in love with them, she should be more protective of herself and if she wanted to be petty, she could do it privately. Sam response was meh.. could be smth more mature for sure, but i could bet that something just happened behind the scenes, because even Colby unfollowed her, which is like weird to me, considering once again that Colby still follows Katrina who made a a song about Sam after their breakup (which is so good btw)

I am no hater of Katelyn or any of the girls around boys (i am here for ghosts and demons, not delusion) and didn’t send her any, don’t worry. I just say that i think people should stop taking any sides and be angry at people when they do not know the full story. Something must have happened bts that made both snc angry and it’s not our business to know, so i think it’s better to just move on and focus on the upcoming videos (especially am excited for the one with triplets )

i mean, i agree with you that there's definitely more that happened bts that we don't know about. every relationship is more than what it appears to be. only katelyn and sam know the real story on what happened.

the thing is, it's hard to compare relationships bc kat and sam one, ended on good terms (all things considered) and two, were together for almost a decade. so bc of that, there is a level of respect there, a level of friendship that was there, that katelyn and sam didn't quite have. and colby clearly unfollowed katelyn bc of her posting the pic, since it was so out of left field given that her and sam had been broken up for a couple weeks (by my guess).

like i mentioned in my other asks on this, what katelyn did was dumb. while i found it funny in the moment, i never thought it was the smartest thing for her to do. it was petty and childish and odd. i've never denied that once. that being said, she was always gonna be the loser in this scenario. not only did she lose the guy, but on top of that has been hated since the minute she came into the fandom, well before she did things that ppl claim are the "real reason" they don't like her (whatever that case may be). not only that, she doesn't have any true supporters. she gained an audience of both lovers and haters bc of sam. and while sam had every right to post his comment, or to post that story explaining he was single, there does come a certain point where in my opinion, he took it too far.

once he liked a post claiming katelyn was not a good person, she doesn't deserve all he did for her, she took advantage of him, she's a bad influence (which let's be honest is fucking rich coming from snc lol) AFTER liking a post that was nicer to both of them a couple hours earlier… that's where i think he did more harm than good. bc his fans saw that shit and literally all agreed that this was him giving the green light to hate on her more than they had been. and again, katelyn was never gonna win. i mean for fuck's sake, she was getting hated on before she ever posted the photo. and she wasn't even dating him anymore. and sam was only getting hated on this past year because he was dating her.

was it dumb for her to post the pic? yeah. but it was also dumb for sam to like a post basically saying "yeah go ahead and hate her, she's the worst". he has MILLIONS of fans. the only fans she has are ppl who are fans of him. who do you think ppl sided with?

and that's not to say that she's a good person in all of this. she probably did things she shouldn't have in the relationship. and vice versa, if we're honest. but she couldn't have done anything that bad considering the fact that colby was still following her up until she posted this.

like i've mentioned before, pettiness comes out of hurt. and clearly both of them are hurting, so i do feel for them there. but if i'm honest, i just expected sam to remain quiet on this, like he does with literally everything else. the comment made sense, the story was fine, everything afterwards felt like jabs to knock her down a peg.

and sure, she's posted clips that have been filmed by him and unarchived shit that was about him. big whoop. she still lost. i'm not on either of their sides, but i feel for katelyn a little more than sam.

[i-miss-summertime]

Your How Far We Will Take It/Ianthony analysis is beautiful and it fits so well! I haven't listened to How Far We Will Take It since it came out so I forgot how emotional it makes me and listening to it while reading your analysis had me crying. I also love the way you write!!

If it's cool to add on, I see Let Me Drown fitting the bittersweet breakup (shipping glasses off, I'm using breakup because I think it fits best). I see it mostly from Anthony's perspective but parts could definitely be Ian/both of them. I don't have time to fully write it out but these are the lines that I see fitting with what we know about the end of Ian and Anthony and the breakup, mostly thinking about the Ian reading my diary video and I spent a day with Ian

"Been finding it hard to be kind/Since I've been lost out there, losing my mind/And I still keep on searching for what I can't find"

"I swear there's good things that are coming your way/And I can't be the one left here dragging you down"

"Only one knew my name/Nothing left but the summer rain"

"And then suddenly we're writing out the same old lie"

"Yeah, we had it one time but it's gone now, it's gone"

"I know with pleasure comes pain/I figured we were the same/But as I get older I get more afraid"

"And this town just ain't big enough for the both of us now"

Hope you don't mind long asks 😂

I dont mind long asks at all! Sorry it took so long to respond, life and work's wild but I wanted to talk about this song sm cuz I loveee it.

Good time to bring out this meme again

"Been finding it hard to be kind/Since I've been lost out there, losing my mind"

I can definitely see the Anthony parallels! Even if they never had any outright nasty or mean things they said to one another, there was a lack of grace and trust Anthony had for Ian.

Partially it seems cuz the way they both expressed their feelings got lost in translation since Anthony seems to seek out more explicit confirmation of feelings and Ian, back in the day and somewhat now, seems to express himself more through actions. But more related to this that their friendship had deteriorated so much, there was less willingness to give the other the benefit of the doubt. Anthony felt like Ian was being mean in places where there was no malicious intent and not to mention the passive aggressiveness they both mentioned they had. They didn't treat each other with the care a long-term relationship (platonic or romantic) needs.

Feeling like Ian was lost to him and only being able to assume the worst of what he could be feeling towards Anthony, you see this in his letter and how it colored his interactions with Ian.

Also in addition with the "losing my mind", Anthony has literally said how being in the Defy era made him feel like he was going insane so just continuing to describe the pressure cooker he felt like he was in. Not to mention the mental health issues he's talked about going through at that time.

"And I still keep on searching for what I can't find/Let me drown."

This feels like Anthony searching for reasons to stay, searching for understanding of their relationship in 2017, and trying to break through in a way that felt reciprocated. This being in his attempts to open up in NYC but them not understanding what the other wanted still (Ian feeling guarded and thrown off by Anthony opening up and Anthony feeling frustrated when he expected Ian to open up to him in exchange).

As well, I feel like it shows in his efforts to decode Ian in many cases. While I think these conclusions were biased against Ian by the lack of emotional maturity (going as far to think of Ian as a bad person since it was easier than fully unpacking the complex nature of what they both did/didn't do for each other), I think it still showed a level of care and trying on Anthony's part that he was searching for answers in Ian's actions. He even said he was creating "narratives and ideas", becoming a "conspiracy theorist about where [Ian's] brain was." in the letter video.

"I swear there's good things that are coming your way/And I can't be the one left here dragging you down"

Now granted, I feel like Anthony's departure was largely for self-preservation. As it should! Fans give him flack for leaving but if a personal friend of mine told me about the creative restrictions, manipulation of their creative IP was being done, and generally being overworked, I would be telling them up and down to quit. Yes, thankfully it evolved into the amazing Smosh/Mythical era but it was a long few years before that happened. The aspect of "can't be the one left here dragging you down" can also be in the way Anthony felt so creatively checked out, it just made sense to step away in his mind. Like this is gonna happen no matter what, no sense in slowing it down on my behalf.

However, I feel like this echos the aspect of keeping an eye on each other's content throughout the years and while I know Anthony had said for a while, he wished Defy-Era Smosh would be gone, I don't think they ever wished ill on one another. I think they both hoped for good things and it feels similar to that sad friendship-breakup vibe of "goodbye, I hope you get everything you deserve"

"Only one knew my name/Nothing left but the summer rain"

This line feels like his struggles at first to have his own identity outside of Smosh. That concern that he would always be defined, understood, and liked in his relationship to Smosh. Who was Anthony outside of it, and it was a real question of how he was going to define himself.

"And then suddenly we're writing out the same old lie"

All those years of pretending they were on good terms when they were barely even texting each other. Keeping a happy face as they both emphasized that there wasn't any bad blood between them and they were still on good terms. In particular, "I'm leaving Smosh, I'm not leaving Ian." being a sentiment that probably stood out as lie that stung as Ian realized that Anthony had shut the door on any chance of collaborating.

"I know with pleasure comes pain/I figured we were the same/But as I get older I get more afraid"

Like this screams both of them just reflecting on the pain that came with the absolute amazing ride that is Smosh in their lives. It brought them so much but it cost them so much for years. For so long, it felt like they were this united force, the best friends everyone wanted to have.

Then, both of them finding themselves as the heads of their own respective companies, in the unsteady arena that is internet fame, with people looking to them for guidance but no other partner on their level. As much as both of them get along with and joke around with their cast/crew, there's always the disconnect of being the boss.

They're older, they're internet legends, they're bigger than a majority of the people on the platform in terms of notoriety and longevity, but alone.

"And this town just ain't big enough for the both of us now/Let me drown"

This is what gets me about their friendship break up. It didn't happen with a fight or any one catalyst but almost by pure logic.

Why stay when you're unhappy? Why ask him to stay when you haven't been creative partners in years? Why continue to be friends when Anthony felt for a time that he would only continue to get his feelings hurt by Ian? Why should Ian keep reaching out to collaborate when Anthony makes it very clear he's shutting himself off?

It's just the logical, cold conclusion of this isn't a place for me anymore. And even when you cut the cord yourself and leave on your own terms, it still hurts, still feels like drowning.

[armando-triplepapito]

Did someone ask for song recommendations for ysblf? 👀

I love this question. The ones I can think of right now are the following:

1. Te dejo en libertad by Ha*Ash. This one reminds me so much of Marcela, the lyrics are heartbreaking and self explanatory as to why I think of her.

2. Mientes tan bien by Sin Bandera. This one would be for Betty after she reads the letter. There were times were she was really conflicted because even though she thought he was using her, the things he said and did seemed really genuine so this song could apply for her confusion.

3. Por Amarte Así by Cristian Castro. This one would for Armando especially after Betty returns from Cartagena.

4. La Incondicional by Luis Miguel. This one would be a song Armando would for sure dedicate to Betty. It reminds me of how unconditional Betty was with him ever since the beginning. She didn’t expect anything in return and was happy loving him in secret that’s why, in part, the scheme was so painful.

5. No me quiero enamorar by Kalimba. This one reminds me of Armando when he started the affair with Betty. While he did admit he wanted to fall in love before (despite getting increasingly doubtful it was ever gonna happen), he wasn’t expecting to fall in love with Betty at all. He felt miserable for deceiving her in this way, couldn’t even imagine going further than kissing for this very same reason. And I think that once they crossed that line, he could tell how much both encounters affected him and fought back hard against his feelings, looked for so many excuses to avoid coming to terms with them. But ended up having to admit it in the end. Even Mario tells him he fell in love with the wrong person 💔

This got so long, my apologies but I just love ysblf so much and get excited whenever I find someone to talk about it. Thank you and have a lovely day.

First of all, I just wanted you to know that I love love love you!!!! I'm always so happy to receive song recommendations and please never apologize for sending a long message it actually makes me happy especially when you're sharing your thoughts☺️

Second of all, I wanted you to know that you're the reason why I even started a ysblf playlist! While trying to answer this message I started a google docs to make a list of all the songs I want to talk about but that list quickly became too long, it was two pages long!!

So here's 20 songs that remind me of Marcela, Armando, and Betty!!

Ahora Decide - Pimpinela: I feel like this song kinda represents Marcela and Armando's relationship. Armando being used to their routine "Lo único que sé es que dejarte no puedo, Me acostumbre a esta vida, a esta clase de amor, Y cuando pienso en cambiar, de verdad tengo miedo" and Marcela just being pushy, pressuring Armando to leave or to stay(and yall know she really doesn't mean that).

Tu Falta de Querer - Mon Laferte: I would like to think Marcela would listen to this song after her breakup with Armando but mainly because of this one sentence -_- "Y dime porque, Cómo fue que me dejaste de amar? Yo aún podía soportar Tu tanta falta de querer". Idk, even if Armando and Marcela got married and if Armando continued with his hook ups I feel like Marcela would NEVER let him go. I feel like that's how she views love. Forgiving the unforgivable.

No Me Ensenaste - Thalia: Another song Marcela would listen to after her breakup with Armando. I think this song really represents Marcela! She just doesn't want to let go!

Laura No Esta - Nek: Armando would definitely listen to this song after Betty left! Just replace Laura with Betty and there you go it fits! lol! "Contigo olvidare su ausencia" "quedate y llename su espacio" These two lyrics always remind me of when Armando to stayed over at Marcela's apartment after the bar fight and rekindled their relationship.

La Despedida - Daddy Yankee: Definitely Armando's song especially during the bar fight. "Y tu recuerdo, me esta matando Hasta la muerte aqui estare esperando Nunca lo olvides, te sigo amando" AHh love this!! Actually I got this song from an edit lol!!

Dejaria Todo - Chayanne: There's no denying this is Armando's song! "Lo dejaria todo porque te quedaras Mi credo, mi pasado, mi religion Despues de todo, estás rompiendo nuestros lazos Y dejas en pedazos a este corazón" this part specifically reminds me of when Betty throws out the bag with the cards and gifts 😭

Todas Mueren por Mi - Cartel de Santa: Armando during his asshole era lol!! " Soy tu vida, soy tu muerte y vivo para cogerte Tengo frio el corazon, pero la verga caliente" It cracks me up cause it's true!!

Dos mujeres un Camino - Laura Leon: Betty and Marcela's song!! Tho I'll have to give it to Marcela only because of one line "Mi sueño se terminó Cuando ella apareció"

Perdoname - La Factoria, Eddy Lover: Armando and Marcela's song!! "Cuando estamos en la camita, baby, we are burning" sex is the only reason why Armando continues with the relationship (let’s not include external factors) and Marcela always forgiving him 😮‍💨. Plus this song is funny lol

Loca - Shakira ft El Cata: Betty would dedicate this song to Marcela lol. "El esta por mi y por ti borró Y eso que tu tienes to', y yo ni un kiki". Cracks me up!! I make up fics with this song lol!!

TQG - Karol G and Shakira: Betty when she returns to Ecomoda after her glow up!! Line after line this song just fits!! "Si sabes que yo errores no repito?" not wanting to get back together with Armando. "Dile a tu nueva bebé Que por hombres no compito" when Marcela kisses Armando in front of Betty!! Like girl stop! You're embarrassing yourself! Betty don't care!! "Si ella supiera que me busca' todavía" now that's cold!! I can go on and on for each line, this song was simply made for Betty!

Un Hombre Normal - Espinoza Paz: Betty when she leaves Ecomoda. "Nunca fui tu prioridad, ni tu centro de atención Y tengo que asimilar, que si ya no estoy dentro de tu corazón" I like to think that after reading The Carta Betty revisited bad memories like how Armando left her all night at the office. Probably beating herself up for believing someone like him (someone who literally forgets about her existence) to magically express romantic feelings for her 😭. I always cry to this song!

Por Que Sera - Rudy La Scala: Betty and Armando's song!! You know their romance was more passionate because it was essentially prohibited lol!!!!!🤭

Soy Rebelde - Jeanette: Another song made for Betty. All she ever wanted was to be loved and to be happy. I think her way of being rebellious is by being with Armando. Ik she's with him because she loves him but at the end of the day she is going against what her parents had taught her.

Como tu Mujer - Rocio Durcal: Betty when she accepts the fact that she can't be with Armando so she decides to leave thinking it'll make Armando happy.

Con Los Ojos Cerrados - Gloria Trevi: Betty always knew that Armando was a liar and they had no future together (confirming this on their 2nd night). Knowing these facts she would blind herself to continue with a fantasy TT^TT

Te He Querido Te He Llorado - Ivy Queen: I always think about this song when Betty execute her revenge. "Y ahora vas entender Cuando me veas con el" when she parades around with Nicolas. "Si en mis manos tuviera un puñal, lo usaria Y la vida yo te quitaria Por dejarme tan sola y vacía" when she overhears Armando and Mario's conversation of sending her to another country. She did have a "puñal" which was the real balance for the junta directiva and she used it to essentially "kill" Armando.

De Contrabando - Jenni Rivera: This is such a funny song but this is how Betty behaved with Armando! She was willing to see each other sparsely, left no evidence of her involvement with him (tho there was that one time with the poem), never asked for explanation from Armando, she was just happy with him looking her way!! It just fits lol!!

Con la Misma Piedra - Grupo Límite: The signs were there! Anyone could've guessed that Armando started a relationship with Betty for cruel reasons, to conserve his company. The signs were right in front of her yet she fell into his trap just like how she fell into Roman and Miguel's trap! She also knew she was playing with fire so girl why?? Why do this to yourself?!

Viveme - Laura Pausini: "Víveme sin más vergüenza Aunque esté todo el mundo en contra Deja la apariencia y toma el sentido Y siente lo que llevo dentro" i just LOVE this part of the song. Even tho Betty knew their relationship should never come to light deep down she did want everyone to know or at least wanted Armando not feel embarrassed of her and be able to love freely. It's a shame they weren't able to continue their relationship before Betty had her glow up and it's an even greater shame there's little to no fanfics of them. That's what sad about wattpad fanfic, everyone wants to speed up Betty's glow up😞

Sorry for the long post! But you know what they say quadruple it and give it to the next person lol! I know most of these are already known to be related to their specific ysblf characters but I still wanted to recommend them and I know some might not make sense but all you need to do is squint a little!!😭

Anyways thanks for the recommendations I seriously loved them! I already added them to my ysblf playlist and if you ever have more recommendations feel free to send them my way!

Much love❤️❤️❤️

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Ranting and Raving: "Telephone Line" by Electric Light Orchestra

In the early seventies, when the breakup of the Beatles was still fresh and still being mourned, many people asked who (or what) could ever replace them. Asking which group was the second coming of the Beatles is like asking for a definitive answer on what the Great American Novel is. You’ll get possible answers, but you’ll never get the answer. Of the various options I’ve heard in my lifetime, only two answers make sense. The first is everything Paul McCartney did with Wings in the seventies. 

The second answer is Electric Light Orchestra.

Jeff Lynne is the Beatles fanboy to end them all. He’s made it no secret. He’s lived out the fantasies that every Beatles lover could imagine. He’s played songs with three of them (never got to jam with John Lennon), he’s produced for George Harrison (the album Cloud Nine in 1987) and got to be in a band with him (Traveling Wilburys), he’s produced for Paul McCartney (songs on Flaming Pie in 1997), hell, he even got to produce the Beatles themselves when they reunited and brought John’s final demos to life (“Real Love” and “Free as a Bird” for Anthology in 1995). John even called ELO “Son of Beatles” during a radio interview in 1974. Lynne’s dream with ELO was to pick up where the Beatles left off with “I Am the Walrus” and he absolutely did.

There is no ELO without the Beatles, but I do think there are several ways Lynne stands out from the Lennon/McCartney model of songwriting. For starters, Lennon/McCartney started the Beatles with silly love songs like “Love Me Do,” “Please Please Me,” and “All My Loving.” It was only during the second half that they started writing about stranger things and getting weird with it. Lynne did the reverse. He started ELO with weird science-fiction and fantasy concepts. “Kuiama” is a song about a soldier trying to comfort an orphan girl while also having to be the one to explain he killed her parents. “From the Sun to the World” might be about the apocalypse. “Bluebird is Dead” is about somebody learning about and coming to terms with death because their bluebird is no longer moving. The entire Eldorado album tells a story of someone lost in dreams, going from dream world to dream world a la Quantum Leap in the hopes that they will find the mythical city of Eldorado. In short, the first few ELO albums are strange progressive rock that’s more in line with the sound of the Moody Blues, not the Beatles-inspired pop rock that would define their golden years.

The reason for all of this preamble is because “Telephone Line” is a pivotal moment in ELO’s story, both for their success and for Lynne as a songwriter. It’s when Lynne turned into a full on pop songwriter and his songs started focusing more on ordinary situations for ordinary people as opposed to the strange, almost otherworldly ideas that dominated the first ELO albums. It started with the album Face the Music in 1975, it was perfected the year after with A New World Record and “Telephone Line,” which might be one of Lynne’s best.

Jeff Lynne is a strange entity, both as a songwriter and as a guy. I wrote about his love for the Beatles and his connection to them because as a songwriter, he defies the Lennon/McCartney model because none of the songs are about him. At all. He would get inspired by things that happened in his real life, but he himself is never the subject of the song. No trace of the man is left on the page of his biggest hits. Like McCartney, he writes melodic, catchy, heartfelt songs and delivers them with love and sincerity. It’s a big reason why people still love the band so many years later. He’s good at what he does. However, McCartney also wears his heart on his sleeve and plenty of songs are about him. “Let It Be” famously came to him after he had a dream of his mother giving him advice while he was knee-deep in the rough final days of the Beatles. “Hey Jude” was famously written as a way to comfort Julian Lennon when his dad left his first wife for Yoko Ono. “Silly Love Songs” was a response to Lennon saying that silly love songs are the only kind of song he writes, with McCartney famously asking, “What’s wrong with that?” In short, a lot of lyrics to McCartney’s songs are personal to him in one way or another. John Lennon, on the other hand, rejected that. Words only mattered in the context of fitting into a song or what he was thinking about in a certain moment. It could be complete nonsense for all he cared. He once famously told a fan outside his door, “You just take words, and you stick them together and see if they have any meaning. Some of them do, some of them don't.” Lynne takes the best qualities of both Beatles. The words sound like they could be personal to him, but they’re just words to a song he wrote and they just happened to make a good song idea. Lynne himself talks about it in a radio show interview from 2001:

“Telephone Line” was like a song that was-- You know, I knew somebody, I knew a girl in America and I would phone her. But it was an imaginary story. I pictured a guy who phoned up this girl. And all he ever got was a ring tone, just rang out for days, y'know. And obviously he couldn't do that now. Somebody... some electronic thing would answer it and tell you to clear off or something. But this was just the loneliness of the long distance telephone call.

Whenever we fall in love with a song, we have a hunger to learn what the inspiration for it was. When lyrics to a song really resonate, we often want to learn what caused them to be written. People always wonder what Uncle Joey on Full House did to warrant Alanis Morrisette to write a song like “You Oughta Know.” People debated like Ancient Greek philosophers trying to figure out who Carly Simon wrote “You’re So Vain” about. We care about the performer behind the song, whether it matters or not. Tina Turner didn’t write “What’s Love Got to Do With It?”, but she may as well have, due to the way she performs it and the details of her abusive marriage to Ike Turner fitting the lyrics so well. ELO remains lyrically interesting due to Jeff Lynne remaining a sort of mystery man. We’re talking about a guy who hasn’t been seen in public or on stage without sunglasses on for close to forty years! The reason being that if you ever saw Jeff Lynne’s eyes you would probably start seeing those colors that only shrimp can see. He also has a habit of explaining his songs much in the way that Paul McCartney does, which is to say that he says something about how the song got written, but what he says usually doesn’t explain a hell of a lot.

I talk about the impersonalness of Lynne because I think that helps to illustrate what a great performer he is. “Telephone Line” is fantastic. Every note of it. I can’t think of another song where loneliness has been expressed in a more melancholic, wistful, and almost desperate manner. There’s so many little moments that make this song so wonderful. That keyboard in the beginning that’s mimicking a phone being dialed. Those sad, glittery keyboard notes that lead into the verses. The way the first verse sounds like Lynne is singing from an answering machine. The way the drum beat comes in after Lynne says “Hey” and begins the second verse. The way those gorgeous strings fill the empty spaces between Lynne’s lyrics and follow the lead of his vocal melody. It’s all so wonderful. There’s a reason Lynne got inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame. A New World Record is also around the time he really perfected the production side of ELO. This song still sounds fantastic even now. That vocal harmony and blending of Lynne and bassist/vocalist Kelly Groucutt during the chorus is just wonderful. Lynne gets a lot of credit for ELO, but I think he still needs a nod on his production work. You don’t get to produce for the likes of the Beatles, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, and Del Shannon unless you know what you’re doing. Compare this to the first couple ELO albums, where Lynne was just stacking layers of instruments on top of each other, to this and the difference is night and day. This entire song is a musical treasure from one of the best that was just entering the top of his game.

Similar songs on this topic, like New Edition’s “Mr. Telephone Man” and “Misunderstanding” by Genesis, don’t work the same way. It’s mostly because they’re too poppy and you immediately know why the girl isn’t answering. For New Edition, it’s because she’s cheating and in the case of Genesis, it’s because the person trying to be reached isn’t dating the narrator. Lynne keeps the nature of the relationship ambiguous and the song is better for it. It’s clear that he’s singing to a person he was dating or at least romantically involved with (“Don’t you realize the things we did we did / Were all for real? Not a dream”) but this phone call could be coming from a one night stand or an ex he hasn’t spoken to in months. Up to you to decide. Whatever the case, Lynne delivers those first lines with such longing, such care, sadness, and desperation that you can’t help but want to root for him. It’s such an earnest way to start.

Hello, how are you?  Have you been alright through all those lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely  Lonely nights? That's what I'd say  I'd tell you everything if you'd pick up that telephone

You don’t know what happened between these two people, but you know that he’s at least trying to make an effort to fix it. It’s unclear whether he’s singing this song to an answering machine, or he’s just holding the phone to his ear and hearing a telephone ring endlessly. Either way, it’s tragic. It’s also a place all of us have been at one time or another. Things happen and we try desperately to call (or text, in the modern world) and fix things but the person on the other side of the line just lets it ring (or ignores it or blocks you). A lesser song would pick anger as the driving emotion for the song or just make the whole thing sad and have it revolve around a relationship that has ended. Instead, Lynne goes for a scenario where two people are separated, but the relationship can still be saved if they both work together and talk it out. This is highlighted in the chorus when he sings, “I’m living in twilight.” 

“Telephone Line” isn’t a love song, but it isn’t a break up song either. It’s something much worse: an inbetween song. It’s a song that represents the worst moments that come with the end of a relationship: the ones where you know things aren’t looking good and it’ll probably end in despair and heartbreak, but something inside you still wants to fight for it. Something inside you wants things to work out and you don’t care how sad and desperate you might sound trying to save it because it’s the only thing that matters in that moment. The ringing of the telephone represents those moments in time where you’re trying to save something, but the other person has given up. The endless ringing is “the hint,” that (hopefully) clear sign that you should give up and accept that things are over. There’s genuine melancholy to “Telephone Line” and I think Lynne strikes that wonderful balance between “someone who desperately wants to fix a broken relationship they still see hope for” and “pathetic loser who won’t take a hint and looks foolish for continuing to try.” The final verse of the song illustrates this balance wonderfully.

Okay, so no one's answering  Well, can't you just let it ring a little longer, longer, longer?  I'll just sit tight, in shadows of the night  Let it ring forevermore

He accepts that this isn’t working, but he’s still not ready to give up because the hope that maybe the other person will answer is still driving him to try. One of the reasons I think this song has lasted is due to how we all have stories of losing friends, loved ones, romantic partners, etc. because they simply stopped talking to us. Sometimes it’s because we’re in the wrong, sometimes we’re given no reason and we’re left to figure out what happened. Regardless, Lynne took that relatable situation and he spun it into ELO’s first single that went Gold. 

Whatever the outcome of this song is, we’ll never know. The song ends with the chorus repeated until fade out. We end up living in twilight the same way that the narrator is. The song will always be stuck in that inbetween. If we’re lucky, we’ll hear it ring forever more.

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Did you get my ask few months ago? I was asking that I was surpised that when Ricky and Nini got back together, Nini never questioned about his friendship with Gina? We saw all of evidences of Nini being jealous of them hanging out and she was very much aware that there was obv something going on between them, especially at Thanksgiving party with whole "we thing" and she knew that there was more to it but when they got back together, she never questioned him about her? Never asked him about his feelings for Gina or what his friendship with her meant to him? After all she was his girlfriend, she would have more reasons to ask but that never happened. That's what surprised me. I wonder what you think of that?

I did! & I’m so sorry I never responded to it, I guess now is my chance lol — Here’s your original ask, for reference:

I was thinking back and it just hit me that s1 was when Ricky and Gina got closer and Nina witnessed that and was obviously jealous of them. She mentioned about them being "we" during Thanksgiving and saw them bonding and was really jealous of them and she wasn't an idiot to see that there was obviously something going on between Ricky and Gina. What bugged me the most about this is when Ricky and Nina got back together, why Nina didn't bring Gina up to him especially about his feelings for her? She knew they were pretty close but she never brought it up at all? In s2 when she was going to YAC and they were doing long distance, still she said nothing about them as she knew Ricky and Gina would be in same school. I am not saying that she would think Ricky would cheat which is not the case but to know that he would have someone to turn to and bond with, if that makes sense. She was jealous of them for whole season one for a good reason then when they got back together, it's almost like she forgot about his "friendship" with Gina or whatever. I find it very strange because she saw how happy Ricky was when Gina was around and his smile lights up the moment she was in the room and laughed with her and shared all of those cute moments with her. So why do you think that it wasn't brought up in their conversation about Gina? It's almost like she wasn't insecure and was confident in their relationship as if Gina meant nothing to him which wasn't even true at all. So odd.

Nini effectively forgetting that Ricky & Gina had any sort of relationship was something that was brought up as a definite inconsistency by a lot of people while s2 was airing. From my perspective, it wasn’t so much an indicator of Nini’s confidence in their relationship as it was something done purposefully by the writers to avoid giving the audience the impression that Gina was “coming in between” Ricky & Nini.

If Nini had referenced Gina & Ricky’s past (to Ricky or anyone else) while they were dating, viewers would’ve been much more likely to blame Gina, in some part, for their eventual breakup. It’s why they have Gina say, in one of her confessionals, that she would “never step on what [Ricky] has with Nini.” & it’s why, even though Rini’s relationship has been rocky & unhealthy from the very beginning, we don’t see things really start to spiral out of control (& head towards definitive “breakup” territory) until Ricky & Gina are no longer on speaking terms (post-ep 5). Tim & Co. wanted to make it very clear that Rini’s breakup had absolutely nothing to do with Gina (or anyone else) and absolutely everything to do with the fact that Ricky & Nini weren’t right for each other, that they hadn’t been for a long time and that holding on so tight to their past together was holding them both back from a better — happier — future. 

 They even made a point of having Gina help Ricky with his relationship at times. She’s the one who gives him the idea to sing his Valentine’s Day song for Nini over the phone after they hadn’t been able to catch each other in person all day. She’s the one who tells him not to send that very intense (to say the least) text about how Ricky wishes he was Nini’s dream — a text that would’ve made Nini very uncomfortable & pressured her into feeling like she had to come back to SLC (she, of course, wanted to come back home of her own accord, but Ricky didn’t know that at the time). & she’s the one who, rightfully, tries to remind him that he should talk to Nini about what she wants before he makes the decision to ask Miss Jenn, behind Nini’s back, about getting her a part in the show. Gina gave Ricky advice regarding Nini, despite how uncomfortable it made her, because all she ever wanted was to see him happy — even if it meant she wasn’t. & Ricky returned that favor in s3.

Unfortunately, despite the writers’ best efforts, some Rinis/PWs (one is synonymous with the other) still decided to completely misunderstand/twist the show’s narrative, just so they could place the blame on Gina, to avoid admitting that Ricky & Nini brought out the worst in each other. Just like how they repeatedly blamed Ricky for “trying to break up” PW — even though 1. The exact opposite was true: Ricky put more effort into keeping Gina & EJ together than EJ himself did during PW’s entire relationship — & 2. Gina gave a whole speech about why she & EJ don’t/won’t work, explicitly telling EJ it was not about Ricky.

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Interest in Gaylor seems to be on the rise after Taylor’s breakup, and some fans are speculating she might be preparing to CO (as what identity is another question - like with Harry there is debate over her label). Obviously Taylor has had many confirmed BFs, but I wonder if she were to CO (and I’m doubtful of that at least near term but am not the most informed) it would be simpler for her than Harry bc many of the men she’s been linked to have had speculation about their own sexuality. Harry, Tom, Jake, Joe…

However, I don’t think it’s wrong to think a key part of Taylor’s success has been her ability to make fans feel connected to her life through the her songwriting which includes referencing specific men (the red scarf, the stitches, the london boy, and so on). If she were to CO does she lose fan trust? Maybe not as some already interpret her lyrics through a queer lens and understand the concept of “stunt” songs (and she has many songs not necessarily about her or romance at all). Like you said just publicly dating a person of the same sex without giving a specific label would be the slow burn way for Harry or Taylor to CO as gay (if one or both identify that way) without completely canceling out past public relationships. Society does sadly seem to be moving backwards in some areas but there does seem to be more understanding sexuality is not a checkbox, fixed state for everyone.

I definitely don't think that the fact that there are rumours about many of the men Taylor has dated makes it simpler for her to come out. I think one of the complications of coming out, after you've publicly been linked with another celebrity, is ensuring that they are not outted to.

For Taylor, I don't think this is as much of a problem as it used to be. Joe Jonas and Jake Gyllenhaal may have sex with men, but Sophie and Joe's relationship is pretty persuasive, as is the collective impact of Red Taylor's version on Jake's image and life. But I definitely don't think it makes it any easier.

In terms of coming out, I do think that if Taylor has been attracted to women and she wanted to share that, she could probably do quite an amazing job of retelling her story so that people experienced it as an expansion of what she had already shared. It is her super power. See how people are so quickly recasting her and Joe's relationship.

Emotions around shame and having to keep stuff secret are very relatable - I think Taylor could write about being confused about her feelings, feeling like she had to hide them, and even revealing specific songs are about women in a way that brought people in. It also helps that Scott Borchetta sits there as a very easy villain who would only need to be gestured at.

I don't think it's useful to understand publicly dating someone of the same sex as a slow burn way of coming out. It's coming out - it's just coming out in a different way. Coming out does not have to mean revealing all previous relationships were fake (and it doesn't mean that all previous relationships were fake) and I think it's really useful to distinguish between the two. At the moment, celebrities just don't reveal previous relationships are fake, unless they happened years before. I think it's useful to take that as a starting point, rather than assuming coming out involves revealing previous relationships are fake.

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I agree. I’m definitely not throwing any shade or saying anything bad about Swiftgron and if I’m wrong and they are together I would be super happy it just looking at it it makes no sense to me.

I’m not even full late stage Kaylor I go back and forth on it all the time but if one thing made sense it would be Kaylor.

I agree some songs are definitely Dianna and I also see False God as a Dianna song but it doesn’t compare to Karlie at all. If they were still together and she was hang up on Dianna it would be weird she is singing about Karlie this whole time.

i think it's healthy to question things and keep an open critical mind! and also it's totally possible and valid to have multiple interpretations of songs, or to play with imagining different scenarios when you listen!

i have two different interpretations for would've could've should've in my mind. both fit the lyrics really well even though in a way they contradict each other. they're both extremely powerful and moving stories. i'm not concerned with figuring out which (if either) is True (because again, can we ever truly know that? and also i believe she's been weaving her personal experiences with fiction in her songs since the very beginning). but i like to think about both situations and experience them imaginatively when i listen. it's such a rich song! a true masterpiece imo

i think i went off on a tangent

oh ok this is more relevant: there are a lot heartbreak/breakup songs in which i actually picture karlie when i listen to them, even though i'm convinced the girls are still connected. i know that won't make sense to a lot of people, but i can enjoy picturing karlie in these songs almost as if taylor cast her as the lead actor in a sad movie. i think a person can be a muse to create art that isn't based on a literal experience with that person. or also: long-term relationships are really complex! taylor is really really good at capturing an emotion and expressing it with metaphors or different but universal experiences. just look at my tears ricochet.

some songs that i (and others who like to use them as "evidence" that they broke up) picture karlie in are the 1, gold rush, and hits different. but again, for me, karlie is the lead actor in these stories, not the literal inspiration.