#i cant be the only one that will watch s1 to just ignore s2
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princess-marida Ā· 2 years ago
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this week i had like 3-4 rant posts i wanted to make, personal stuff fandom stuff media stuff but then i thoughT.... oh god damnit why am i writting this
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bizlybebo Ā· 7 months ago
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ok idk whats gonna happen next but like...imagine whats goign through william's head rn? i mean, like..
There's a hot sort of fear in his stomach, watching Vyncent struggle with a choice that could mean goodbye. Here is Vyncent, who he loves, maybe, and he's looking at him, and it could very well be the last time they ever speak to eachother.
(Ashe's possession and departure is almost a year gone by now, but right now it feels closer than ever.)
And yet. And yet, Vyncent's been searching for a way home for as long as William's known him, and likely longer. Vyncent was always going to leave, eventually. Maybe that's why he got so attached so quickly.
Dakota just looks confused, in the background.
I just thought we would have more time, William thinks. William knows death intimately, moreso than anyone else, but he doesn't know endings. Not like this. Mostly the endings he knows were drawn-out things, friendships fading, the slow but pernicious work of decomposition, of decay.
I didn't know it would be this soon, he thinks.
William Wisp has never been without his fair share of selfishness, or pettiness. But he can't in good conscience ask Vyncent to stay. Not when he's been searching for this for so long.
He tells him as much, and it hurts more than anything he's ever said.
GUAHHHH DUDE. DUDEEEE HOLY SHIT THIS FUCKING FLOORED ME OUGGH. OW ??? OW OW OW OW OW
god again thereā€™s so much more i wanna say that i cant because of obvious spoilers. but GUAHH.
early s2 vyncent fucking gets to me because it becomes more poignant than ever that he was always searching for a way homeā€” he held that lie, that deal he made with mal in s1 ep13, close to his chest for over a year. he spent ten months in that base with william and never told himā€” he told himself he planned to, but he willfully ignored it.
and of course, he values and loves william and dakota more than anythingā€” theyā€™re his rock, theyā€™re his only pillar of stability in the unfamiliar and ever changing world of prime, but in that moment, william probably doesnā€™t see that.
vyncent returning home to fauna has so much more impact because prime grew on him, emotionally, mentally, and physically. itā€™s that whole thing about how, at what point, does a place, a person, a team, become a new home? he grew up in fauna but he grew as a person in prime and the roots have now stuck in both places.
all william and dakota see in that moment is another friend leaving. even though vyncent isnā€™t entirely certain himself, even though vyncent is still committed to finding ashe. all they see is another friend leaving, too soon.
ā€œWilliam knows death, intimately, but he doesnā€™t know endingsā€ā€” THISSS. DUDEE. guahh williams refusal to let go fucking kills me every time. heā€™s so used to being the one gone, the one leaving, and he canā€™t imagine somebody else getting to leave him first.
guahh this is so much more jumbled than your ask but dudee. you have such a fuckinf way with words holy shit
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ghostlypawn Ā· 2 years ago
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the way quarantine changed the way a large chunk of people consume tv is so obvious to me and it needs to change asap
#like not even from a binging pov#but fandom wise ppl r so much more fucking weird and obsesive about their shows#biggest examples to me is#euphoria s1 was like pretty chill and everyone was like yes this is a good show#s2 comes around and its literally all everyone is talking about for that month the memes r over the top and overused#but it means they convinently ignore any important themes and character choices#and it feels like ppl r watching the show to talk about and meme it rather than just watch it for their own sake which is w/e but weird#and then STRANGER THINGS#st has always had a big fandom but its never been that weird imo#like s3 came out and obvs everyone talked about it but no one was THAT obsessive about it#(except maybe some IT fans that overlapped tht r obsessed w finn)#but s4 came out and once again people are so weird w how they interact w it#making so many unfunny tiktok audios and running them into the ground (chrissy wake up)#and being obsessively weird about joe quinn as if theyve never liked a celeb before#like no other actor (except maybe finn but even then i dont think it was ever this bad) got treated this way from the show#like stalking taking pics asking the chrissy girl what he smells like??? its all very invasive and everyones forgotten how to act#i cant be the only one to have notice this weird shift in how ppl consume these show#maybe its just bc a bunch of 13 year olds are watching for the first time and havent learnt how to act#but even then there will always be 13 year olds#and im not saying ppl have never acted this way bc they have but it was always on a smaller scale where a large majority were like ehh#i blame the mcu tiktok and hp
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minamotoz Ā· 3 years ago
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why the live version of eres sucks balls: a rant
well its been a while since i wrote a long lumon centric rant, but i randomly remembered how viscerally angry the version of eres in the live shows makes me, so im here to yell about how much it doesnt make sense and also sucks.
fair warning, although im trying to stay objective, this may get a little bit anti-lutteo/matteo :/ soz about that, i'll try not to be that mean. also i havent watched soy luna in a hot second so i may get a few details wrong
ok so the biggest reason that making eres a love triangle song does not work because it is impossible to remove eres from luna and simĆ³n. i mean, its THEIR song. its a song explicitly about how much simĆ³n loves luna, there is no way working around it. there is no other way to interpret it. even though other characters sing it on occasion (see: monica and miguel), eres is a song that really only works for simĆ³n and luna. which is why after the show nerfs their romantic relationship post-s1, eres, one of the shows most iconic songs, effectively disappears. it gets performed maybe twice during s2 and then its gone. and i think its because eres just . rings hollow if it isnt simĆ³n singing it about or to luna. the song in a vacuum is pretty and nice sounding, but the context of it being simĆ³ns declaration of how much he adores luna is what makes the song special.
so why do i say this? i mean, its not like simĆ³n isnt in the live version, its still his song and hes still singing it to luna! well, yeah thats true, but adding in matteo just completely messes up the dynamic of the song. throughout season 1 of the show, while the show arguably spends an equal amount of time setting up both lutteo and lumĆ³n as solid pairings you want to root for, its abundantly clear from the very first episode which couple will be endgame. the show, time and time again, wants you to root for lutteo. matteo is the deuteragonist of soy luna, and this show wants you to love him. this show will apologize for and kiss the ground matteo walks on. the writing has a very clear and palpable bias towards matteo. so what am i trying to get at? well, by forcing matteo into eres, a song ABOUT SIMƓN AND LUNA, it is basically saying to ignore the significance the song has on simĆ³n and lunas relationship because MATTEO is here and MATTEO is clearly the better choice for luna! the song isnt about simĆ³ns love for luna anymore. its now about two stupid little boys fighting over a girl, which we already get enough of in the show itself.
and the part that gets me the most? the fact that at the end of the song, luna still picks matteo. and i think this makes me the angriest because, within the show itself, they already show us simĆ³n being second choice to matteo. now, i am not saying simĆ³n is entitled to or owed lunas love. that is stupid. but in the show, we already see simĆ³n, who is absolutely and dreadfully in love with luna, slowly start to realize that she is in love with matteo, while he and luna are in a relationship. we have already seen simĆ³n lose to matteo multiple times. the show had to get simĆ³n fucking kidnapped to make sure he lost to matteo. and we have the live version of eres, the song that is a raw love confession, something that is deeply personal to simĆ³n and his arc in s1, get turned into a forced love triangle song in which simĆ³n has to once again, see the girl hes in love with pick MATTEO and be forced to deal with it. all while luna and matteo get to sing HIS song, happy in love while he has to suffer. eres is now a lutteo song, because we cant have anything that isnt lutteo for any longer than like 5 seconds. the entire performance feels like a complete slap in the face to simĆ³n. like, 'hey you know that extremely personal love confession song you wrote to the person you've been in love with for years? yeah now its a song about her and the guy shes known for like 8 months :)' matteo wins again, yay.
i know the soy luna concerts followed a storyline, and this may take place in a dream sequence and im dumb and Wrong, actually, but watching a performance of it in a vacuum, it really just feels like shitting all over what made the song, idk, special? maybe its just my bias for simĆ³n. say that i'm 'reaching' or that its not that deep but it just makes me mad. the only good thing i can say about Live Eres is that ruggeros voice is very nice.
tldr: making eres a love triangle song erases the point of the song, forcing matteo into something that has nothing to do with him shows writer bias, and having matteo get the girl in the end during a song simĆ³n wrote and is a song about simĆ³ns feelings is a complete disservice to simĆ³n and my boy deserves better. i am going to bed, goodnight.
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mieczyhale Ā· 3 years ago
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tua s2 made me fall out of love with tua and thatā€™s just how it is
like i still love the content, s1 and the comics and stuff, but there was just too much about s2 that...wasnā€™t good. or was disappointing. cringe and not in an entertaining kind of way. they tried too hard with the music (the soundtrack was good but it by no means had the same power as the one for s1), underutilized or ignored main characters, little to no character development, gave one character all the power (listen there as literally no reason for vanya to be THAT powerful AND be able to control it - not after the *gestures to entire show*. plus she had powers that werenā€™t her powers. no. you have seven main characters who all have original powers. fucking USE THEM) they had no business not only wasting but ruining klaus the way they did - he was fan favorite ffs how do you NOT take that into consideration?? AND YOU HAVE SOURCE MATERIAL!! USE. IT. FUCKING USE IT.Ā Ā 
ahhhh tua season one (1) my beloved
i tried really hard to love it - and did convince myself to for awhile, bc tua means so much to me and i didnt want to be disappointed about it - but the fact is: i am. like so incredibly lmao i donā€™t tend to back off in a fandom, even during a hiatus, unless given a good reason to not care anymore. i havenā€™t read a tua fic in months, i dont get involved in the tua discord (clowns, if u see this, i love u) and thatā€™s like also for anxiety reasons but also bc i have nothing to say about this show. the fic i had started posting probably wont get worked on anytime soon (iā€™m a whump / hurt / comfort / angst lover and writer. s1 gave me plenty of inspiration and thoughts. s2? i mean.. thereā€™s some. but itā€™s SO different from s1 my connection to the characters emotionally is gone. i cant write trauma i donā€™t feel attached to, karen, and i canā€™t write about characters i havenā€™t extensively analyzed. i mean idk maybe i can but i donā€™t really want to. drunk!me might try some time, that bitch DOES things, but otherwise.. not really my cup of coffee) i have no desire to make or consume content for it anymore-
maybe my feelings on *gestures to this entire post* will change when we actually start getting stuff for s3 (and i fully intend to watch the third season, even though i couldnā€™t care less about the stupid sparrows - one bad season isnā€™t enough for me to totally give up on it) but right now - and for the last several months.... the only love i have for the umbrella academy lies with season one and the comics. i donā€™t even care about getting more klaus - THATā€™S how bad it is!! yā€™all know i love that motherfucker, we identify the same - i got some of his tattoos, our fashion sense is just Like That. he is baby. but rn i donā€™t give a shit about any of it or him. bc s2.Ā 
not saying s2 didnā€™t have itā€™s good things, its humor and whatnot, but it wasnā€™t enough to make up for everything else (and thereā€™s a lot. this post mentions only a few things bc i didnā€™t even intend to make this post or get into any of this - real talk, i only meant to post the first sentence and then a vague short paragraph maybe. just to make my point, bc i never did acknowledge my backing away from tua and the fandom. but now itā€™s a lot of words and iā€™m not re-reading it! if i do my ocd will keep me here for hours and i have housework to do and dinner to make so)
dsl;fjsd;lfs
k so i could have maybe typed out more, made a little more sense, connected my thoughts and wrapped it all up with a nice bow, but my brain is Stopping. no more thoughts, not even in the empty void i go to when i make posts. just The End.
so i leave this incoherent overview of thoughts with the following::
s3 please donā€™t fuck up challenge
s3 please give me my dysfunctional family back
s3 please know literally anything about your characters
s3 please give the gays some fucking happiness and bring dave back. klave is forever no matter what but weā€™d all love to have our boys reunited (and still in love thanks. if you separate them iā€™ll put your balls in the toaster and your fingers in the garbage disposal. your head?? oven doors. they hurt.)
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satellite-trash Ā· 5 years ago
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(kind of depressing) psychological analysis of jack atlasĀ  --involving ramen.
So, if youve watched YGO 5Ds entirely (meaning the subbed version as the dub never finishes the ending season) youā€™d have picked up on Jackā€™s obsession with instant cup ramen, which would be fine for any character really but it seems out of character for the pompous, upper-class (wannabe), arrogant luxurious Jack Atlas aka THE KING.Ā 
But actually it reveals a lot about him, and actually is really depressing...Ā  There is a massive link between ramen and his lost childhood.
In season 1 we see NO sign of this obsession or even care for ramen. TheĀ  only thing he obsesses over to any degree is a) duelling Yusei to claim King b) saving Carly from the Dark Signers or arguably c) trying to figure out his own character as a king (after beaten by Yusei)
But, in Season 2 where he is (arguably...)Ā ā€œredeemedā€ from villain to teammate/rival, he gains a bit of comedic flare with his obsession with the cheap ramen cups. (and expensive posh coffee).Ā  The coffee obsession suits him. But cheap instant ramen?
His obsession starts Episode 80, where Lazar/Yaeger steals Team 5Dsā€™ engine programme as well as a cup of ramen.Ā  Jackā€™s reaction is... comedic?
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Heā€™s more pissed at the fact his ramen was taken than the whole important, irreplaceable engine programme theft. Comedic. But his irritation at losing ramen continues in episodes 114-5, where again lazar/yager steals some ramen he wouldve bought and his reaction is...
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He is in total fear of just not having ramen.Ā  In fact, he even hoards it - shown in episode 115 where he brings it out to give to lazar.
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This is the episode that makes all this comedy turn dark and really depressing.
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He reveals that the flavour of ramen reminds him of childhood at Marthaā€™s, sharing it with Yusei, Crow, and the other orphans.Ā Ā  This means that his obsession is like a psychological association to childhood, like sensory association, like how many people can recognise and get nostalgic over smells and tastes without even knowing why.Ā  Jack hoards and eats ramen defensively because he longs for childhood - whether its the relationship he had with friends or the carelessness of childhood, he misses it in comparison to adult life. I mean... who can blame him - theres a reason why so so so many conditions exist mentally that cause people to retract into childhood behaviours, like the whole AdultBaby lifestyle (wont get into it but the platonic side of it is a longing for childhood often lost) or where people continue hobbies such as certain toy collecting etc that they did as kids, OR that they longed to do as kids but just couldnt do for whatever reason/restriction.
he even wants recognition from Yusei for remembering that flavour/memory:
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This is why he makes no mention of this in Season 1. Jack S1 was all about the present -no future nor past. He hated his past in Satellite w Yusei etc, openly wanting to ignore it, perhaps guilty for stealing Yuseiā€™s card etc or overall hating that limited and depressive situation.Ā  (I have a headcanon Jack genuinely fell into a depression in Satellite and just acted to get out, but thats too deep for this current time lmao)
Because he didnt want ANY reminder of his past (hence hatred of Yusei, Crow, Kalin, and the entirety of Satellite, orĀ ā€œSatellite scum/trashā€ as he calls them in the dub), he doesnt want ramen.Ā 
But, S2, he is reformed and has his old friends back, and even martha has accepted him back. So, he realises the error of his ways, and reclines into his lost and mentally more stable childhood. Through ramen.Ā 
His childhood wasnt happier - satellite was at its worst, they were struggling, he had no freedom, in comparison to the S2 situation where he achieved duelling fame, has friends back, and satellite and Neo Domino are united (kinda)
BUT maybe he wants to go back and correct things? Or live a guilt-less and resent-less life again, not having done any wrong? I mean this is impossible to say, but clearly his ramen obsession, now being linked w childhood, means a longing to go back for some reason.
Itā€™s clear he shows regret or sadness over childhood/lost childhood: the only time he cries in the show with tears are over memories from childhood with ramen;Ā 
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His face is streaming with tears because of Lazarā€™s story about ramen and childhood which he related to. He is SO intensely emotional over ramen that it does come of as comedic, which is really strange for the rival character as serious/uptight as jack. I mean, could you imagine Kaiba ever acting like this over, idk, cereal? maybe one time he shared a bowl of cornflakes with mokuba and now he cries every morning eating his cereal because of those memories. idk.
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this is 115 when Sherry cuts the pile of ramen boxes out of impatience, Jack is IN HORROR of his prized collection being attacked like this. its like sheā€™s cutting up his childhood memories or something. I mean, it basically is, apparently.Ā 
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His comment to Crow summarises all this, 114. He has just screamed at Lazar for stealingĀ ā€œhisā€ ramen (it was the old ladyā€™s but ok jack) Crow asks him to calm down
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its right, he cant, no one can. Its something in his mind relating to his childhood, losing ramen or even being in a situation where his ramen might not beĀ ā€œhisā€ safely, unsettles Jack. Ramen represents his childhood in some regard, and the anxiety of losing it causes him to become incredibly defensive and on edge.
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im sorry for this random and kinda deep/depressing take on Jack. I know we should be thinking positive rn in the current global pandemic, but i just needed to get this analysis thing out there (more a rant actually) because it really struck me when S2 made jack have a weirdĀ ā€œcomedicā€ element about him, in his reformed state. Itā€™s not so much comedic, but deep and suiting his character. His obsession over ramen is not just a gag to make him more like a good-guy now he is teammates with Crow and Yusei etc, but it develops his character and gives him reformation in a completely different sense -- it doesnt force his goodness out by just making him into a comedy-relief, but rather gives him emotional backing for his mistakes and wrongdoing in the previous season, and actusally makes it kind of depressing how he arrogantly tried to forget and destroy his past in Satellite with his friends.Ā 
gimme any thoughts you have on this, if you made it this far through the rant (i applaud and love you if you did!!)
i thought of all this because in the current global situation, most people are limited inside and getting depressing, sometimes its better to mentally retract and go back to better times when this whole thing wasnt going on, and for Jack that was childhood.Ā  Sorry for philosophical rant lol, at 1am in the morning for my part of the world~
Ā here is funny pic to say sorry and lighten the mood~
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(that chef has seen some dark things in his life... )
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ace-pervert Ā· 4 years ago
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Ive finished watching eleven seasons of rupauls drag race and now feel I am ready to briefly review each season
S1: A good start though it must be said, ONGINA WAS ROBBED! Also there was favoritism.
S2: Not a bad season but at least somewhat ruined by Rupauls rather overt favoritism towards Tyra and dislike of Pandora. While I didnt like Tyra on the show his callout of the entire drag community after leaving drag has given me massive respect for him and feels like karma for RuPauls rather blatant self promotion and attempts to turn himself into some kind of rolemodel. But aside from the callout and Jujube, and Pandora the season is unmemorable.
S3: The top three were all highly skilled and the winner seemed to deserve it though that was later put into doubt after it came to light that Raja had worked with RuPaul before the show aired, and lets be honest Manilla Luzon was much more talented.
S4: One of the best seasons in drag race history, has the best music video, and Sharron Needles is hands down the most influential and versatile queen in drag race history. The only bad part, aside from the editing against phi phi, is Latrice Royal, who, and I feel this needs to be said, wouldnt have been in the top four had Willam stayed, and certainly wouldnt have made top five if Alaska had been allowed to join, mostly because she kept showing a similar outfit, her not being a particularly good actor, being thrown off really easily, and quickly relying on a shtick.
S5: Good season, but I feel that Roxxxy really did end up in the top three only because Visage and Ru love drama and the Jersey Shore look that was at the time Roxxxy Andrews trademark look, and the Coco Alyssa drama was really dull, neither deserved to be as high as ended up, and ultimately both queens are unmemorable.
S6: Not a bad season but i'm not a fan of Courtney Act or miss Lake, mostly because I think they both get away with looks that really they shouldnt have gotten away with, though arguable so did Bendelacreme. Though it was nice that there wasnt any drama, and Bianca del Rio is really funny.
S7: Ive tried to come up with words to describe this season, I cant, its just that bad. No not bad just dull, really dull and awkward, and the worst part is that its not the queens who drag the season down, the queens themselves are fine and Pearl stands out as being a particularly interresting person when not on drag race, its RuPaul being a tool off camera and coming up with challenges that play to the queens weaknesses rather strengths.
S8: Unfortunately I found Bob the Drag Queen so attractive out of drag that I stopped caring about what he looked like in drag with the end result being that I have no idea if hes a good drag queen. But ignoring the moments where I was drooling over Bob it was a good season with some truly great outfits,and a good Snatch Game, that wether for good or bad did very quickly become the Bob the drag queen and Kim Chi show, making it in hindsight the second most plann
S9: The season started off with an appearance by Lady Gaga , whose reviews of the outfits consisted of little more than name dropping and not much else, unintentionally setting the tone for a dull and awkward season with a cheerleading challenge that causes one person to crack a rib and another to almost permanently lose their ability to dance, a Reality Star Rusical that is well just dull, painfully bad lipsinks, uninterresting outfits, and perhaps the blandest wierd drag queen in the history of the competition. Its also in this season that introduced the lipsink for the crown format that I personally despise as it takes the power away from the viewers and puts it back in Rupauls hand.
S10: Solid season, mostly focused on returning contestant Eureka but the other contestants are given enough focus that it feels natural. The challenges are interresting to watch, the snatchgame is funny, and the dresses are well made. The top four are all stars in their right and the winner of that season could have easily been any of them, making this the only season where a lipsink for the crown made sense.
S11: Starts off strong with people like Miss Vanjie, Brooke Lynne Hytes, Nina West and Yvie Oddly revealing a high degree of skill both as actors and as dress makers. Unfortunately the blatant favoritism of Rupaul, the judges, and the producers towards Silky Nutmeg Ganache (honestly they seem like a nice person in real life, but on the show they just seem like a tool), unimaginative challenges, distracting and irritating cameos by former drag race contestants including by Bianca whos dull and unentertaining appearance shows exactly why contestants shouldnt return at all, a rusical so god cringeworthy you'll pray for death (Trump the Rusical), the worst snatch game in drag race history, and painfully predictable twists result in a terrible season, with the only interresting things being the romance between Vanjie and Brooke (they broke up four months after the last episode before the reunion due to conflicting schedules), Miss Vanjie being well himself, Nina Wests acting, and Yvie Oddly's outfits .
S12: Havent seen it, but lets be honest this season is the one where the star is a sex offender. By now many fans have analysed the season and its become clear that the person who was intended to be the focal point and possible winner was Sherry Pie, which means that editing them out for very well known reasons also makes them the focal point just in a different way than intended. Hell it wouldnt surprise me if this season becomes known as the one with Sherry Pie, not the one where the winner won. Though it might also be the last season that RuPauls on, as there are rumors that hes stopping with drag race.
The Christmass Special: To short for a christmass special, to much like the other episodes to be special, to blatantly commercial to be Christmass, and to scripted, even by drag race standards, to be drag race.
And now for a review of the Judges themselves
RuPaul: On the outside a warm, outspoken, well meaning person whose done things which are truly groundbreaking. But beneath that warm exterior beats the stone cold heart of a businessman. He's calculating, manipulative, greedy, has no qualms about setting queens up for failure, and ultimately hasnt done much that could be seen as groundbreaking. Perhaps the worst part is that its clear that in terms of humor , mentality and fashion hes never left the 70s, which combined with his callous way of treating the enviroment (as shown by his fracking empire) and his history of transpobia, makes him a liability to the show. Even if you manage to ignore all of that, the show is ultimately about the drag queens, not about Rupaul, and Rupauls attemps to make it about him really drag the show down
Michelle Visage: Shes a mother of two teenagers with a stay at home husband pretending to be a bitchy whore on a tv show about drag queens, yeah thats her career. Now in truth thats not the biggest issue, the biggest issue is that shes got hangups and makes the same jokes over over again and that after being on the show for ten years she hasnt developed as a judge so the routine, to paphrase miss Visage herself, has been done to death. In truth the show needs something other than the same damn shtick and same damn comments all the time, and if she cant do it then she should quite so someone else can do it for her. Ok maybe thats the second biggest issue, the biggest is that she kisses RuPaul's ass untill it shines brighter than a mirror.
Valentino Rice: Good judge, and had great chemistry with the other judges.
Ross Mathews: Cute guy, wierdly charming, and interacts well with the others.
Carson Kressley: He comes across as a very tired, very frail, very gay but very very very dull ninety year old man, which makes sense given the fact that his entire career is based on being gay, and hes, well old. Ok hes not really old, hes 50, but on camera he looks and acts closer to 150. And the issue isnt that hes gay, its that hes doing a shtick, a very dull and fairly offensive shtick. Possibly the worst choice for a judge, and the show jumps in quality whenever hes not there.
Now for a few things that just bug me.
Favoritism: Unfortunately one of the biggest issues of the show is that seasons tend to be structured around Queens who are intended to be the winner, or at least the hero, from the get go, which has the advantage of allowing the creators of the show to change the structure and challenges from season to season, but also makes it hard to watch if the season is blatant in its favoritism, if the intended winner isnt that good, or if the winner gets eliminated for one reason or another.
Cameos by former contestants: Cameos are a great way to get people to say "I know that person" which is great in a tv show because you know that the cast wont change in the next episode, but not great in a competition where all it does is take away screentime from competitors and giving it to competitors who most likely did not do well enough to win in their own drag race, and even if they did, the show is not about them, but about the current contestants. As such if Ru wants them to return he should put them in All Stars.
Cameos by celebrities: Add nothing. Its drag race not the red carpet, i'm watching for the up and coming drag queens not famous people trying to boost their careers.
Adding politics to the show: No, just no. Dont do things like Trump the Rusical, dont have steven colbert do a voiceover, theres no way that can go well and it comes accross as virtue signaling. If Ru wants to do something good he should double the prize money and have half of the money go to a charity of the winners choosing, or stop fracking.
Adding politics outside of the Show: Drag queens are celebrities and entertainers, as such are constantly in the public eye and dependent on being in it for their income which means that anything they say in public, wether its gossiping, or discussing politics, needs to be viewed as being some form of self promotion. Now this might make things difficult for them, but it is a well known part of being an entertainer so it can be assumed that they were well aware of this before they joined Drag Race. If they do want to talk about politics without being viewed as self promoting, they are free to make an anonymous account on one of the many sites, like tumblr, where its assumed that no one knows who the other people are.
Family Friendly Drag: Lets be honest its men shoving their cocks up their own asses while dressing up as women, and naking refferences to sex, for the sake of entertainment. Thers nothing family friendly about it. Nor should there be as part of the appeal of drag is that its something that is restricted to adults. Likewise they arent heroes, they are entertainers, not doctors, not construction workers, entertainers no more worthy of praise then a person on a sitcom.
Drama outside of Drag Race: While drama on the show is to be expected and is part of what makes it entertaining, drama outside of the show is different its more personal and something that in truth should not be shared. However by presenting it as gossip on various shows they are saying its part of the show, which is unhealthy at best.
Final note.
While I am critising the Drag Race, I am not doing it because I dislike the show, I am infact a big fan of the show but at the same time I want to get my thoughts out there see how others view these topics.
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joelcoen Ā· 5 years ago
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I was tagged by @davidfors5 thank u dani <3
1. fave character from each remake and why? nl - isa: shes so raw and an unapologetically gross young woman and i love her for itĀ  druck - matteo: who knew so much love could be stored in a little rat.Ā  i love well written depression representation even if it was unintentional on drucks part (im not attached to austin enough to have a favourite character lmao)
2. fave musical moment? the womanā€™s day clip from s2 when jonas walks through the school to blue monday. its hilarious. i also love how druck incorporated mountains through the last three clips of s3 ep 6Ā 
3. if you could make your own season, who would it be about and what would happen? i think a kiki season would be really interesting. it would look at her struggles with her mother at home but also her relationship with carlos and what happens when you move in with someone when youre maybe a bit too youngĀ 
4. rank the sanas sana/amira/imane/imaan/zoya (ive not seen the other 2 and whats skam italia
5. fave season from each remake and why? nl - s1: it was a teen indie movie whats better. druck - s3: it was truly the most incredible ten weeks. ive never felt more in a characterā€™s shoes with matteoĀ  austin - s1: there was something very still about season 1 which i enjoyed
6. whats your opinion on s2? what do you like and dislike the most? which remake made the best s2? okay. objectively, season 2 is very important as it shows the highs and lows of a passionate, whirlwind romance. the way they portrayed sexual assault and an eating disorder was very real and very heavy. however. william as a character is so awful and badly written that it prevents me from rewatching the season. its like when i couldnt finish breaking bad bc i cant stand walter white. druck s2 however, incredible. imagine if william was as likeable as alex!
7. what representation would you like to see in skam? more religion! its unrealistic for there to be only member of the squad to be religious and the rest be atheist (or maybe thats me going to a catholic high school speaking). for example the day after the manchester arena bombing i attended a mutli-faith service on greys monument and it was beautiful. im not sure about the rest of the uk but thatā€™s always been common in newcastle. (i also truly think that skam italia wasted their chance in having martino come to terms with his sexualtiy and his catholicism but hey low key lighting, a blue colour palette and saying the n word are much more important right??)
8. what country would you like to see a remake and why? as shit as it would be i honestly think that a skam uk would be hilarious. but i think it would be very good for the generation who were just too young to vote in the brexit referendum and are pretty angry with having our future decided for us by old posh twatsĀ 
9. fave head canon?Ā  even goes to film school and eva and jonas dont break up
10. sort characters into hogwarts houses eva, even, magnus - gryffindor/ isak, sana - slytherin/ noora, jonas - ravenclaw/ vilde, chris, mahdi - hufflepuff
11. tell me your best crossover idea even and david need to become friends. maybe isak and even relocate to berlin so even can study art and media at universitƤt der kĆ¼nste berlin and whoā€™s in his class? david
11 questions: 1. what moment resonates with you the most? 2. if you could watch one clip for the first time again, which one would it be and why? 3. where is the best use of cinematography? 4. if you could change one thing about skam, what would it be? 5. what is the best monologue in the show? 6. what clip with very little to no dialogue sticks out to you most? 7. youā€™ve woken up in your favourite characterā€™s shoes. what do you do for the day? 8. youā€™re directing a clip! whoā€™s in it, what happens, what music do you use? what do you do to create tension and make us hate you? 9. describe skam to a new viewer in 30 words or less 10. ignore julie. what are the characters up to today? 11. whatā€™s the most unnecessary clip?
i tag: @jonasaugustn @isakvdhflorenzi @florenzim @isaknewtons @isakvdh @lauraschreibners @als-vuur @gyenia @notskam @autisticmatteo @lesbiankeijser
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silverylion Ā· 6 years ago
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Can we talk about Lance for a bit ?
There is something that really bothers me in season 8. I mean everyone is kind of still recovering but I feel like I need to say it anyway.
They chose to heavily feature Allurance from episode one cause they planned to kill Allura. It's a fact. As much as I don't ship it, they make a really cute couple with adorable scenes that made me smile and support them and I could have got over my disappointment regarding who I wanted to end up with Lance if only Lance had shown a bit of happiness by being with her.
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No manner how we look at it, he isn't happy ! Why is that ? He finally got what he always wanted so why did they depicted him like that ? I really don't understand and that's what makes me so angry about all of this.
He doesn't seem like someone in love who finally got the girl! He seems hurt! Why is that ??
I'm ready to ignore the messy plotline of this season, the inconsistencies and everything that is wrong because overall, what I really care about is Lance as a character.
He means a lot to me because he is so different from the characters we normally meet in this kind of stories. He began as an annoyingly flirty boy who was desperately searching for glory to calm the insecurities he only show to few people. He was talented but needed someone else to acknowledge it to fully realize it himself. He was defined by his loudness and his love for love. He was looking for validation and a special person who would love him as profoundly as he love others. He had big dreams, big expectations, a bright future ahead of him. He wasn't overly masculine, liked being pretty and throw terrible pick up lines. He was funny, adorable I fell for him as much as I identified with (even if we are so different). He wasn't perfect, far from it, but it's also why I love him.
For many - including me - he was also representation. Not only for another kind of complex character but also by being Cuban and supposedly bisexual, something that seemed to be heavily implied so many times but I won't even talk about it.
During the series he has grown to be more self assured through the missions he accomplished with his friends, the people he met but most importantly Keith who trusted him and relied on his abilities, which definitely shown him his worth. I'm not even gonna talk about Klance as romantic. Keith is an important person for Lance's character, a friend he needed by his side along the way and that still was there for him in season 8. Which is really great, by the way.
I'm not gonna talk about the 'first choice' thing or the 'someone he needs, not someone he wants' or even the 'endgame' aspect of his romance. But yeah, that was all lies.
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On this photo, Allura seems calm and happy, she seems like she can finally see a future with Lance and it's great. What is not so great, though ? When I saw this particular part in the episode, I stopped and watched Lance's face for about 5 minutes to try to understand. I don't see a happy boyfriend, here. I see a guy kind of unsure of what he is doing. I see a guy who doesn't know if what he is having is for real or even if it's what he really wants. He seems quite uncomfortable, tensed. It's maybe just a projection on my part but I genuinely cant see happiness here no matter how long I look at it. But maybe I'm really biased and don't see what actually is, you tell me.
Throughout the season, he was here to support Allura on her journey and it's great, but I would have wanted her to reciprocate it in a way or another. It's what Lance always needed and he didn't got it.
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And in the end, he cried. I feel like he never really believed that this relationship would stick, that for whatever reason, they would end up parting paths. And the crew chose to kill her... In all honesty, Allura is not a character I really care about. I thought nothing about her in s1 and in s2, I started disliking her with what happened with Keith. But even thought I don't really care for her, making her die ? For seemingly no reason ? It's tough. And once again, I'm not even talking about how they killed representation or how people in the fandom can feel crushed by that, betrayed, even. I'm only remaining on Lance's side.
He never really had someone to reciprocate his love, something confirmed by his mom. He fell for Allura, casually at first, really hard when the series continued. What he feels for her is genuinely profound and I really liked that he confessed to her but even then... why did he seemed so sad ?
Just look at him !
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He probably never loved anyone as much as he loved her. He sees a lot in her but he never felt like he was on equal ground with her. She is an awesome gorgeous space princess. He is just a boy from Cuba. (An awesome funny adorable space ranger but what do I know...). He never felt like he had a chance or deserved her affection. What about that ? It wasn't mentioned even once and I think that this is the reason of his constant sad face while he confesses, while he kisses her, while he conforts her...
I just don't understand and it makes me sad to see him like that. I know, he is just a character, I know this is just a cartoon, I know this just a kid show. But seeing a character you so much love becoming this sad guy that only support without reciprocation, this guy that loved love and is betrayed by it ? I just can't feel anything else but anger and disappointment for the wasted potential.
He ended up losing the woman he loved. The only person who seemed to reciprocate his feelings and because of that I think that he will always be a little more cautious about it because he has always been disappointed. He shot for the stars and fell hard. I fell hard with him. And as someone that feel that love will never go both ways, it just makes me even more bitter about this.
About the altean markings I don't know what to think. Some people think Allura turned him altean, others think she just left him something to remember her by. In both cases, this is wrong.
If the first theory is true, then what? What does that mean beside the ridiculous impossibility to change race? Did she make him altean to 'level him up' from his human status because he wasn't a match for her? Because altean are so much better? Because there was no need for that! Alteans are not all dead so why? For all I know, it wasn't to make royalty knowing that he ended up farmer so... once again, why?
If the second theory is true, well... That's even worst. She wants him to remember her ? I think he has enough around him for that, the status, the commemorations, the legend that will follow her, stories, his friends that gather to talk about her and how they miss her and what she meant for them... Giving him this will only prevent him from moving on. And it's harsh. I personally think that he should have moved on a long time ago. She never loved him, she was annoyed by his flirty attitude, by his simple presence sometimes. He should have seen that blatant rejection and accepted that yeah, he wants her but cannot have her. Romantic love wasn't something she cared about for so long. And then she fell for Lotor who betrayed her. And I think she honestly still doesn't care about Lance this way.
I think Allura didn't fell in love with Lance. She was heartbroken because of Lotor, because of the altean, because of the crown she lost, because she saw everyone with families while she lost hers. I think Allura just wanted someone that would take care of her and lift her burden with her. Just someone that would remind her that she is not alone in the universe, a distraction from the pain she was feeling. Someone that would ground her to prevent her from losing hope. He was easy, he loved her, she just accepted it not reciprocated it.
I see this like that because there was no real build up for their relationship. It wasn't a slow burn. It wasn't even reciprocal. She was sad that Lance felt so strongly about her and accepted their relationship for her own balance and because she didn't want to see her friend so sad. It didn't solve the problem for him though. Plus when the vision of Lotor, her ex boyfriend, told her to go get the creature thing she did but when Lance, her current (well past cause well, she's dead) boyfriend told her not to because it was dangerous and he cared to much for her safety, she didn't listen to him... Great. That's love folks.
I really could have fell for their story but seeing Lance so sad, so taken advantage of... He was so dull, no charisma, no joke, no stupid lines, nothing. He wasn't himself. He wasn't the Lance we saw grow during six to seven seasons. He wasn't the hero, second in command, courageous sharpshooter we all know.
And the sword ? Was it to foreshadow his future encounter with Alfor and Allura giving him blue markings ? Well, that was unnecessary. They could have done that without making people think that something more exciting would happen, that he would actually use the sword.
And the game show ? If they were to be together why the fuck didn't Lance chose her ? Why the fuck didn't she chose him ?... Well, she didn't because she didn't love him more than she loved the other Paladins. But why Lance didn't? Why make Lance and Keith chose each other? If they didn't want to involve them in any romantic kind of situation (they totally failed), they could at least have made them hug. And an emotional scene to express how much they care for each other to justify being worth choosing the other over anyone else to leave and not spend eternity in the game show. Keith was there for Lance and Lance was too obsessed with Allura to even ask about him. Great, even in a totally no homo friends kind of look it was badly handled.
Can someone explain to me the reason of the sunset setting ? Or why Lance freaked out when Veronica asked him to "put in a good word for her" with Keith ? They are friends, now, there was no allusion to their past rivalry. There was therefore no need for that kind of reaction.
He didn't save Shiro, for absolutely nothing. They never talked about it again. They never gave him the opportunity to make up for how bad he felt about that. He didn't event get a conversation with Shiro. They never gave a closure to Lance's arc.
Why do I feel like they did all that to make everyone pay for the shippers that made the toxic reputation of this fandom ? Why do I feel like the writers hate Lance ? Why do I feel like they totally baited us ?
The guy so in love with the idea of love ended up a lonely farmer. That's a great message for kids : don't even think that life will live up to your expectations no matter how hard you work for it. Don't even think that you can find any kind of fulfillment in your life, neither in love nor career.
I've never been in a fandom while a series was still going but I engaged in the Voltron fandom. I discovered it quite late but fell hard for it, it brought me so much happiness, so much hope ! I will never do it again because I'm not sure that the sadness and disappointment I feel right now are worth it. I will never be mad at the theorists and meta writers, they are good people who saw the extraordinary potential of Voltron, they probably feel worse to have spent so much time and energy picking up clues that definitely existed and only served to bait us.
In conclusion, everything Lance did this season was in a way or another related to Allura, as if he forgot he was someone of himself. As if the writers forgot who this character was. And it's painful.
At least there are still the beautiful fan art and fanfictions that really make him justice.
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woonibugi Ā· 6 years ago
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190206 - My 2018
Iā€™ve always wanted to start a blog. One where I could share my experiences and feelings. A lot of things have been happening since the start of 2018 and now that itā€™s 2019, I thought I should do a reflection and just share some of the more memorable moments of this year - good and meh.
So first of all, 2018 was a very important year for me. Iā€™m a Singaporean and 2018 just happened to be my O levels. For those of you who arenā€™t from Singapore, O levels are a national exam in Singapore that students in the express stream take when they are in Secondary 4 (16 years old more or less). Not all students take these exams, only certain streams do but from relatives and friends, I am aware itā€™s the mostĀ ā€˜commonly knownā€™ stream.Ā 
So back to the topic. I was really stressed the whole year. I was losing hair and had so many worries. Sometimes Iā€™d even think about just giving up entirely. I wasnā€™t exactly fond of most of my teachers and have a close relationship with one or two, so I wasnā€™t able to turn to them for help. As such, I did the next best thing, I lived in denial. I ignored all my worries, choosing to enjoy my last year with my secondary school friends. It was a great distraction and allowed me to momentarily forget about my impending exams and eventual doom. (I think that years into the future and look back at this and think I was idiot for finding this hard haha)
I have to thank my parents and my friends who were always assuring me, being a strong shoulder I could lean on and making me smile every day. My parents are very understanding, listening to my concerns and never pushing me to do anything I didnā€™t want to do. My friends, who coincidentally were my classmates, always made my classes brighter, making me laugh and sometimes even cry as I was laughing to hard. I have 3 people who mean a lot to me, to the point that I get off my lazy ass and go out with them during the holidays when I prefer lounging around at home and binging suju or nuest vids. One of them being @seulrimoguri. I wont write their names but I will give them nicknames (yerm the germ, hoebro, yenniel) and refer to them as such ahah.Ā 
Those 3 are those who I interact with frequently in real life but I also have 2 other people who mean just as much. Both of these people I, sadly, have not gotten a chance to meet in real life. First of @alette-stars, who I always refer to asĀ ā€˜unnieā€™ because sheā€™s so kind and dependable like a real unnie. I remember feeling really overwhelmed reading stray romanceĀ and wanting to relay my praises and awe how someone could write something so amazing and relatable. As a hardcore aroha, whoā€™s bias is Eunwoo, I had shipped binu since I first stanned them when I watched their weekly idol with KNK and 4ten. I wonā€™t talk too much about how I constantly checked for updates or how much I re-read the story but I really truly love it. (unnie youā€™re the best!) Unnie has been one of the most supportive people I know, always giving advice and answering even when I reply late because of real world stuff. She helped out a lot with the current fic Iā€™m writing, helping with formatting and even came up with a fansite name for me and Iā€™m so grateful.Ā 
Another person who means a lot to me is @yuzjjin. Sheā€™s a fellow Singaporean who I actually met because she sent me an ask. I remember being shocked that someone would actually reach out to me since Iā€™m pretty shy on tumblr (the only other person who Iā€™ve actually reached out to being Alette unnie haha). I call her jiejie since shes slightly older and an amazing fun-loving person. I trust her with my worries and fangirl with her often as well haha. I remember being really nervous when I first talked to her, unknowingly using very formal language with her (sry unnie HAHA). At the time Iā€™m writing this, youā€™re probably celebrating cny so happy cny!!
I donā€™t really know how this entry just ended up being me talking about all the people who are important to me but Iā€™ve gained healing. I feel calm almost. Maybe itā€™s because Iā€™m sharing my true thoughts? I still sound awkward probably and Iā€™m probably going to cringe when I look back at this HAHA.
To end things off, I wanted to share one more thing that has been bothering me. Yenniel, who Iā€™ve mentioned above, is a huge wannable and even got to see wannaone live in SG when they had come last year. She always used to talk about pd101 and i was hesistant to watch because i get attached easily and after IOI, I really wasnt planning to go through that again. So, I decided that I would watch it nearing or after w1 disbandment. And I did just that. After my exam, I decided to watch pd101 s2, since I had watched pd48 and parts of pd101 s1. The only few people I knew at the start were the Nu-est members, Longguo and Shihyun, Im Youngmin, KIm Donghyun, Jung sewoon, Ong Seongwoo and Daniel. I didnt know after the show I would adopt 40+ boys HAHA
I also rediscovered Nuā€™est, a group which I had recalled stanning in the past. A lot of things had happened and I eventually fell out of kpop, at the time, and found love in other things. I remembered that my bias was Minhyun (tho I cant seem to recall why HAHA) but after watching the show, I started feeling unloyal because another member was capturing my heart. If youā€™ve seen my blogā€™s header and profile, Iā€™m sure you know I mean the squishiest onibugi Kim Jonghyun. I honestly was surprised. I never thought that anyone would come as close to Yesung on my bias list ever again but he somehow managed to do that.(which explains why my blogā€™s name is woonibugi - Jongwoon and Onibugi) I wonder if anyone else has had that happened to them? Yesung is still my ult (go listen to because i love you thankkyu very much) but somehow Jonghyun is a close 2nd HAHA.Ā 
I think this post has gotten to long. Maybe Iā€™ll do another where I talk about my pd101 experience or how i became and ELF or how I became aĀ ć„“慇慅慌, but thatā€™s for another time. If youā€™re still reading, Iā€™m surprised HAHA. Lastly, Iā€™ll suggest a song to listen to. Iā€™ve been in a sentimental mood as of late and have frequently been listening to Daybreak by Jonghyun and Minhyun. If you ever want to listen to a nice, calm song, I really recommend this HAHA. Well, thatā€™s all i guess?Ā 
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nancykali Ā· 7 years ago
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your latest two fics??? WONDERFUL I LOVE THEM BOTH SO MUCH I cant get over steve PICKING JONATHAN UP AND JONATHAN BLUSHING AND KISSING HIM!!! I feel bad bc i send u a lot of messages & hcs (i'm the insta modern au & love letter anon, & probably like 10 other hcs i've sent you lol) but it reminded me of this idea i had where like it's post s1 and before s2 where like joyce needs help w/ repairs bc even tho she got hush money, she rather save as much money for her kids and do the repairs (1/4)
herself (i hc that joyce is really good w/ like plumbing, fixing cars, etc. bc she taught herself in order to save money growing up. and sheā€™s shown jonathan but jonathan doesnā€™t understand it too well) but bc of work she doesnā€™t have time. mrs. wheeler boasts about steve that joyce hires him (ā€œjust feed me, mrs. byers, and that would be enough payment for meā€) and just imagine steve & joyce are idk working on the windows and jonathan steps out of his room, unaware steve is there, and sees (2/4)
steve w/ his sleeves rolled up, perfect hair, tight jeans, that jonathan is blushing and is just ā€œuhhhhā€¦.hey steveā€ and steve smiles at him, ā€œwhatā€™s up, byers?ā€ (and this is at the point where steve apologizes to jonathan and they start becoming friends bc i refuse to believe steve didnā€™t suggest buying a camera for jonathan as an xmas gift NOT FOR THEM TO BECOME FRIENDS) and joyce has a shit-eating grin bc she can clearly see that her son is so gay for steve lol (nancy sees it too w/ (Ā¾)
steve when jonathan shows them pictures heā€™s taken. she has the same shit-eating grin and when theyā€™re alone steve tells nancy ā€œgdi jonathan looked cute todayā€ bc i fully believe steve has opened up to nancy about his attraction w/ guys and his attraction to jonathan & his fears about telling jonathan how he feels, even tho nancy tells him otherwise (she doesnā€™t do it herself bc she respects steve & knows he needs to do it)) sorry that was long. feel free to ignore this lol (4/4)
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(Joyce is bisexual just try to fight me on this. She andMrs. Sinclair had a college affair and are still really good friends.)
( I never want to ignore you insta anon youā€™re a blessingily)
Steve in tight jeans oh lord. Jonathan would blush everytime Steve walks in wearing those tight jeans mmhmm.
Nancy watches Jonathan and Steve kiss for the first time andstarts crying. The boys are concerned and she laughs and shoves them both,saying, ā€œIā€™m happy you idiots are finally together! Duh!ā€
The three of them work on the repairs together (I need towrite a fic) and Joyce makes them sandwiches and Nancy brings more snacks, andone night the four of them make a bonfire in the backyard (the Byers have afire pit OF COURSE they do donā€™t argue) and get high (yes Joyce is the HonoraryWeed Mother havenā€™t you heard) and roast marshmallows. Steve gets marshmallowin Jonathanā€™s hair (it was an ACCIDENT really) and he goes into the kitchen tohelp Jonathan wash it out in the sink and they start kissing and the kitchen isdark with only the distant bonfire and porch light allowing Steve to see how Jonathan looks at him like he hung the moon and his heart beats so hard hemakes Jonathan moan to drown out the pounding.
And the boys go back outside, make up some excuse to getnancy inside with them, leaving Joyce alone for a bit (sheā€™s totally fine withit, sheā€™s so happy for her son. And very pleasantly high.)
And both steve and nancy run their fingers through jonathanā€™sdamp hair as they kiss in the near darkness of the kitchen, and they all arehigh and their mouths and tongues taste of marshmallows and nancyā€™s hair smellsof woodsmoke because she sits the closest to the bonfire. Nancyā€™s hands arecold from being outside, and Steveā€™s are warm from washing jonathanā€™s hair inthe sink. Steveā€™s hands smell of cheap shampoo and conditioner and jonathan hasnever been so turned on in his life.
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gemzwayzz Ā· 5 years ago
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Not only that, the body language adrien demonstrates every damn time heā€™s with marinette shows how much he cares about her. Since the beggining of s1 weā€™ve seen this kind of behavior and as the show continues it just gives us more and more hints that adrien is, in fact, completely and desperably in love with marinette.
People the boy said it himself ā€œi always felt it was more than that and now i now whyā€ because itā€™s totally impossible not to love someone who has the same exact qualities as your crush. Yes, marinette stutters and is clumsy and sometimes cant talk very well when sheā€™s around him but sheā€™s been improving that (even tho we cant see it bc of ujum releases disorder). marinette doesnt talk to adrien only and doesnt stop doing things (most of the time) because adrien is there, on the opposite, he said sheā€™s their everyday ladybug because she acts so much like her doing everything, marinette has this incredible and magnetic personality and aura you cant just ignore and i feel like adrien knows that.
Heā€™s not even in denial anymore, if we start watching season 3 in order WE CAN SEE adrien has been trying to connect all the dots. Episodes like desperada, kwamibuster, stormy weather 2 , puppeteer 2, chat blanc, startrain, chameleon, backwarder and (yes) the finale have a direct story on adrien trying to figure out what is marinette to him and if itā€™s actually possible that she: a) could be ladybug or b) have feelings for him, or c) both. Also in s2 episodes like frozer amd troublemaker help this.
Listen to me, one of the biggest lies adrien has said in this goddamn show was in origins when he said that whoever was behing that mask, he would completely accept her and love her. NO, THATS BULLSHIT because if this were the case he would have accepted chloe as ladybug (if we follow alyaā€™s wrong theory) BUT NO, he was disgusted to even think that, but in kwami buster, chat blanc and even troublemaker in s2 we see that adrien would react positively on marinette being ladybug, BECAUSE HE LIKES HER.
And we need to give the cat some points, in adrienā€™s mind, marinette doesnā€™t like him, she just sees him as a friend. Everytime he has confronted her on insinuated on her feelings towards him, she completely denies it or runs away. Adrienā€™s love language is through words, thats why he accepted kagami, she told him his feelings, marinette never did (bc she didnt have the courage and when she had it, fate always played againts her). Maybe the writers keep delaying marinetteā€™s confession because if she tells him sheā€™s in love with him maybe heā€™ll return her feelings, we donā€™t know. For now, weā€™ll just need to wait.
Iā€™ve seen several people saying that Adrienā€™sĀ ā€œIā€™ve finally found out that you arenā€™t just a friend, Iā€™ve always felt that you were more than that.ā€ is just a lie to cover up the fact that heā€™s just discovered her identity as Ladybug and that he doesnā€™t deserve her because heā€™s not seeing her for herself ā€¦ and I donā€™t think thatā€™s fair.
Adrien first fell in love with Ladybug, and sheā€™s the one he first bonded with, while Marinette was too clumsy and blushing and stuttering around him for them to really get close. And Adrienā€™s a loyal boy who has faith in people; he hasnā€™t given up on his father nor on ChloĆ© despite their problematic behavior. Meanwhile the mostĀ ā€˜problematicā€™ thing Ladybug has ever done is to reject his feelings, which was never with the purpose to hurt him. Adrien has so little reasons to give up on her compared to other people he remains faithful to, and itā€™s going to be very, very hard for him to give up his love for Ladybug, if he ever does.
Now this doesnā€™t mean that he hasnā€™t been harboring feelings for Marinette all this time. Weā€™ve seen how much he cares about herĀ ā€˜as a friendā€™, the kind of smitten smiles he gives her when sheā€™s not looking (the exact same smile he had right before declaring his love), how the lucky charm she (originally simply) lent him has become such a precious artefact that he doesnā€™t look in any hurry to give back. I think Adrien has been falling hard for Marinette, heā€™s just never allowed himself to acknowledge it because heā€™s loyal in his love for Ladybug. And weā€™ve seen him be smart, itā€™s very possible to me that he isnā€™t as oblivious as heā€™s pretending to be about Marinetteā€™s own feelings. But he canā€™t give in to her love, he has to remain faithful to Ladybug. Yet he canā€™t bring himself to lie and crush her by rejecting her feelings, when he knows that Ladybugā€™s own refusal has only hurt him without stifling his passion. So he pretends he doesnā€™t see her feelings because that way they can remain close and she can stay hopeful and he doesnā€™t have to hurt the both of them.
And Iā€™m 110% behindĀ @adrienagrestedĀ ā€˜s headcanon that Adrien has been hoping and fantasizing for Marinette to actually be Ladybug. For the two girls heā€™s in love with to be one, to reconcile his heart and save Marinette from a heartbreak he doesnā€™t want to inflict her. It canā€™t be a coincidence to me that Chat Noirā€™s nickname for his Buguinette resembles Marinetteā€™s name so much (unfortunately that is lost in the English dubs). Nor that he call her their (his) ā€œevery day Ladybugā€ at the end of Heroā€™s Day.
I think Adrien is, in fact, absolutely genuine when he says that heā€™s always felt Marinette to be more than a friend. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
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univcrse Ā· 8 years ago
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@emilybelham replied to your post ā€œok does anyone remember how beautiful that scene was in s7 when...ā€
I'm a Klaroliner and I think he treated her right. The only thing I don't like about canon Steroline is that they had a great representation that a girl and a boy can be fantastic friends, while not ignoring the fact that both are attractive people inside and out, but they weren't romantically inclined towards each other. I think that there are a lot of Klaroliners out there that agree with this too. He treated her right before the relationship and he treated her right during (or what I've seen)
okay see this is my problem with klaroline.
you guys turn a completely blind eye to all the verbal and emotional and physical abuse that has constantly been a part of your ship and turn around and glorify how klaus treated caroline. klaroline is one of the most abusive ships i have ever seen on tv and iĀ genuinely have no idea what show youā€™re watching if you think he treated her right.
HE TRIED TO KILL HER THRICE. HE ASSAULTED HER, ALL WITH HIS HUMANITY ON. HE LITERALLY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF HER. HE DID EVERYTHING TO TRAUMATISE HER BOYFRIEND.
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you also ignore the fact that caroline has literally had no interest in him other than hooking up with him that one time. its like delena, just as abusive, and not even reciprocated.
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you guys hail this horrifyingly abusive ship as some epic slowburnĀ thats the best ship of the decade and i just dont get it. not only does she hate him, he abuses her constantly.
okay listen, a straight guy and straight girl friendship is NOT representation.Ā for anyone. you guys are tripping at this point.
representation is for people of various races and ethnicities, mentally ill people, queer people, people of different religions, disabled people.Ā 
and by saying tvd did something wrong with making two characters who were best friends for years fall in love, you just said the whole friends to lovers trope should cease to exist, as it technically conflicts with the whole ~why cant a guy and girl just be friends~. that is completely unrealistic because some of the best relationships start in friendship and those are so often beautiful and healthy. do you have a problem with other ships rooted in friendship like romione, westallen, sculder, luke/lorelai etc?
itā€™s very telling that you not only stan such an abusive ship, you find the most ridiculous reason to dislike the canon ship that is in the way of it; the healthy and reciprocated ship where both halves treat each other with basic respect and decency.
but they weren't romantically inclined towards each other.
and lastly this is HILARIOUS. the stelena and klaroline fandoms just turned a blind eye to literally every non platonic interaction steroline had since the pilot and wrote it off as bff-ship or whatever
pilot- caroline hits on stefan
s1- she makes a few jealous comments about stelenaĀ 
s2- she tells elena stefan is smoking hot
s4- she tells stefanĀ elena cant leave him for damon because heā€™s him, she tells stefan to grab a hot girl at the kegger bc heā€™s single and heā€™s him, and stefanĀ takes her on the dance floor, stefan and caroline are slow dancing and she tells him heā€™ll fall in love and move on without releasing it
s5- stefanĀ tells caroline sheā€™s hot, literally the entirety of 5x17, they fell asleep cuddling for gods sake, caroline being super super obvious about her feelings in 5x20,lexi teases stefan about dating caroline,
i still donā€™t know how you can claim the fact they were best friends and already cared deeply for each other is somehow a negative.
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