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I SAW UR MARVEL X FAMOUS READER THING and can i please req for a bucky x singer!reader or peter parker x singer!reader and the secret relationship trope where the avengers catch peter/bucky in a phone call and catching them acting all pouty and whiney and all cute and twirling their hair while giggling like school girls and the avengers being all shocked but not knowing who he was talking to + little scenes or bucky/peter smirking or looking proud whenever r is on tv + and the all the avengers going to some sort of concert or event where r is performing and r literally going down to the audience while performing to kiss bucky/peter and just social media freaking out !!

I LOVED WRITING THIS!! sorry it took so long to finish; i wanted it to be perfect for my tubmblr spouse ksjdfhd. anyways this was so so cute and i'm gonna do some extra drabbles + smau bonus posts because wow i loved this concept

𝐜𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐢𝐠𝐚𝐧

peter parker x singer! reader

notes: swearing, mentions of the birds and bees in a non-sexual way, so much fluff bro, the tiniest smidge of angst it's like a sprinkle of salt, a bit of insecure peter feeling like he's not enough, vague description of canon-level violence, lowkey breaking the fourth wall, the avengers are nosy as fuck and definition crack, clint is in his red (taylor's version) era

w/c: 5.2k

the songs used in the fic are by taylor swift + linked at the bottom of the post <3 (but also taylor canonically exists in this universe so she still has her music peter's a swiftie just go with it pls)

.・。.・゜✭・.・✫・゜・。.

peter parker never failed to confound; and no, it wasn’t just the avengers that were confused by his… antics. may, mj, and ned were equally as surprised when they caught peter parker, their [overly] enthusiastic, nervous, forever-in-motion peter parker, casually laying in bed, propped against a pillow with one arm behind his head that made him look like some cookie-cutter male love interest in a cheesy romcom, nonchalantly talking to a female voice from his phone.

mj and ned were no idiots—they’d been the first to discover his spiderman identity so scoping out the identity of peter’s secret female friend was almost as easy as getting flash to talk about sports cars. peter eventually had to spill the beans to may after she confronted him about his ridiculously high monthly phone bill.

but the team of the world’s best spies, geniuses with multiple PhDs, highly trained super soldier assassins, and the man who singlehandedly made the “birds aren’t real, they’re government spies” conspiracy come true, still hadn’t managed to find the tea they so desperately wanted peter to spill. they were too prideful to ask peter to his face and admit defeat, so for weeks, they’d pulled out all their tricks only to fail miserably.

sam tried having redwing perch outside peter’s window to catch footage of any new visitors; there were none. clint, who’d snuck into the vents, and bucky, utilizing his super soldier hearing, had tried eavsdropping on one of his calls. all they heard was peter singing off key and then a yelp as he snapped one of his guitar strings. steve and bruce had tried to casually sit peter down and talk to him about the birds and the bees, hoping that peter would let something slip about any of his romantic or sexual relationships, but peter just groaned and said may had already told him this. natasha even tried hacking into peter’s internet and phone history, but once she found the spiderman tiktok edits and an obscene number of shirtless pictures, she had to stop.

after a lot of bribery and light extortion from tony (who was probably the most invested in revealing peter’s gal pal), wanda reluctantly tried to read peter’s mind, only to see flashes of who she presumed to be peter’s celebrity crush. the avengers had never pegged peter for a fanboy (actually, a good third of them thought he swung the other way and sam and bucky insisted he was on the path to incel-hood), but the fanatic squealing and giggling that emanated from peter’s room every night told a different story. it was clear: the boy had an unhealthy parasocial relationship with a girl who would never know of his existence.

“hey petey pie, d’you still have my artisanal hand lotion?” tony came up to peter as he tinkered with his web shooters.

“oh yeah, mr. stark! they’re in my room and on my desk. you can just go in, if you want.” peter had a spare room in the tower that he used after long missions or big lab projects; it was much more empty than his room at aunt may’s. as most teenagers did, peter considered his bedroom a personal, private sanctuary, but his tower room’s furnishings were pretty basic and he usually didn’t even bother to close the door.

peter’s desk was fairly empty sans tony’s lotion, but because of how barren it was, tony’s eye was automatically drawn to the papers at the corner of the table. no, not his illegible chemistry notes. there was a flyer advertising your upcoming tour dates and locations, and underneath it was an autographed vinyl of what tony assumed was one of your albums.

but tony was truly horrified when he found the bottle of half-used perfume from your brand sitting on peter’s nightstand, in front of a framed picture of him photoshopped next to you.

“peter, we need to have a chat.” tony gestured to the communal living room, where steve, bucky, sam, wanda, and natasha were sitting. steve was holding a sheet of printer paper that said “intervention.”

peter looked around the room, trying to figure out who the intervention was for. “you never call me peter,” he laughed nervously, “is something going on? are we throwing a surprise party?”

peter made the mistake of looking over at steve and he couldn’t help but cower under the nation’s most powerful I’m Not Mad, Just Disappointed Face™.

“kid, why don’t you take a seat?” steve sighed like a Disapointed Father™.

peter sat as far away from the rest of the avengers as he could, wary of how they’d all been looking at him. that was his second mistake, because he ended up across from a team of master interrogators who were staring him down like he was their next victim (because he was).

“we wanted to discuss- uh, the… internet with you,” bucky began.

“oh, mr. sergeant bucky sir, if you need help with the wifi router again, i can show you how to fix it yourself, it’s easy, ac-”

“no- no! that’s not… we’re not talking about that. so obviously your aunt may has already given you the se- safe reproductive activities talk, but we wanted you know, as tech experts-” bruce looked at tony and nat. “-to make sure you understood safe internect practices. safe and healthy internet practice.”

peter visibly relaxed. “oh, if that’s what you’re worried about, it’s all good! midtown has a mandatory seminar and i already know not to use omegle—i learned that the hard way, but i did learn; plus, i took a scratch lesson about html so i’m pretty like, tech proficient.”

“peter, have you ever heard of parasocial relationships?” the rest of the team shot wanda dirty looks at her slip up. they were supposed to ease into the whole thing so that peter didn’t get scared and run off.

“oh, like dating app parasites? yeah, ned was joking around on christian mingle and got this horrible-”

“let me put this into chronically online gen z words,” natasha grimaced. “do you know what the infinitive ‘to stan’ means?”

peter was puzzled. “oh yeah, of course! this guy flash from school has a huuuge obsession with sebastian stan; like, he stans sebastian stan. it’s kind of unhealthy. i’m pretty sure flash thinks he’s the y/n in a ‘my mom sold me to one direction for money’ ao3 fanfiction.”

“right…” sam’s face was all screwed up as he tried to steer the conversation away from 2000s boyband kidnapping aus. “and what about you, peter? do you stan anyone? any… attractive female celebrity who’s approximately your age?”

peter looked genuinely confused. “i mean, i’m a swiftie, if that counts. but not in an unhealthy way!” peter reassured. “i’m not one of those people who has a twitter account dedicated to analyzing the spray painted words on the wall she pisses on in the music video for the man to try and figure out the order of her next album releases, so don’t worry. i’m perfectly normal.” he laughed shrilly.

steve shuffled for something behind him. “i didn’t want to have to do this,” steve enunciated, holding up a picture of you. “we found your shrine and the pictures you’ve photoshopped yourself into and we know that you’ve deluded yourself into thinking that you have a relationship with her and we’re just worried, okay? look, i also enjoy her songs every once in a while, but this is too far. we can’t have an avenger with compromised judgement out on the field.”

peter’s mouth gaped and he stared at the picture steve had chosen, feeling himself blush. that was the picture you’d asked him for his opinion on it before posting it on instagram. and that was the night you’d sent him a voice memo of a song you’d written for him, in which you’d told him how you’d loved him for the first time.

“uh, come again?” peter’s voice turned up at the end in his confusion, but the other avengers took it as a sign that he was lying.

“okay, this is enough. we’re taking him to cho for an evaluation,” tony snapped, taking peter by the arm and dragging him down the hallway.

“hey- hey! wait! i’m not delusional, just let me-” peter scrambled for his phone, trying to pull out pictures of you and him together as proof, but he dropped it amidst the chaos of tony’s fussing and nat and bruce’s hushed whispering, and the exclamations of surprise in this unplanned step of the intervention.

peter watched as his phone clattered to the ground and he reached his free hand out for it cinematically, but it was to no avail. that stuff never worked in the movies either.

“jarvis!” peter yelled desperately.

“yes, young spiderling?” jarvis replied. tony must’ve reprogrammed eyerbody’s name in jarvis’ system.

“play voice memo! uh, the most recent one!”

“playing voice memo: this is peter with trial four- ahhhh! no, not that one!” crashing noises and a string of curses from a voice in the background that made steve flinch ensued. “oh my god, mr. stark’s going to kill me if he every finds out-”

“stop! no! jarvis, um, play the second most recent voice memo!”

peter looked at the ground to avoid tony’s withering glare. “we will be discussing this later,” tony warned.

“playing voice memo.” through tony’s newly installed surround sound speakers, your silvery voice reverberated around the high-ceilinged walls and silenced the other avengers’ jabbers.

“my thoughts will echo your name until i see you again, these are the words i held back as i was leaving too soon—i was enchanted to meet you.”

sam’s mouth dropped. “what the fuck? i didn’t peter say he learned to code on scratch? how did he work out this voice generator thing?”

bucky’s face contorted into the cute stupid expression he made every time he was confused. “relax, the kid probably recorded a live performance on the you-bee-too to feed into his whole hormonal teenage crisis fantasy.”

peter was outraged and opened his mouth to protest. steve cut him off. “kid, young people at your age will go through… ahem… changes. and perhaps that has manifested into a romantic yearning towards this lovely young woman, or uh,” steve blushed. “the desire to… fondue is very common as you develop into a man, and i myself-” steve choked and started coughing to avoid spilling any dangerous blackmail material. bucky patted his friend on the back knowingly.

“hey horndogs,” tony yelled from the front of the crowd, where he was still struggling to drag peter. “can someone turn off the damn music? i don’t want to know what the kid gets up to in his free time, like, at all. especially not in song form.”

“will you all stop calling me kid?” peter begged, finally freeing himself from tony’s *iron* hold. “look, that song’s unreleased, so i couldn’t have just recorded it off youtube. plus, tony already banned me from working with voice AIs after i accidentally broke karen and she wouldn’t stop screaming for like, six days straight.”

natasha raised her eyebrows, but nodded. “and we know the boy isn’t smart enough to come up with those lyrics on his own.”

“hey!” peter defended. “no, actually, yeah. you’re right.”

“what does this have to do with anything?” sam interrupted, throwing his hands in the air. “i personally find it creepier that he got access to the girl’s unreleased music. and don’t even get me started on the shrine-”

“she’s not some girl, she’s my girlfriend!” peter blurted.

steve scoffed. “sure she is. gorgeous, talented, multi-millionare singer-songwriter from brooklyn, mind you, is your girlfriend? what’s next, bucky and sam’s bickering is actually unresolved sexual tension?”

“yes?!” peter hissed incredulously. “you’re just jealous,” he huffed,” and don’t even lie, mr. captain rogers sir. i heard you crying to this is me trying last week. which, by the way, are you okay? anyways, yes, we’re dating.

“i didn’t ‘photoshop’ the pictures, i- how would i even-? it’s not like there’s conveniently a picture of her in a photo booth holding up a green prop mustache that i can edit myself into. my ‘shrine?’ she sends me previews of her merch and stuff, i’m not gonna throw it out. it’s not like i’m collecting strands of her hair to replicate her dna. we literally just call each other,” peter huffed.

“we call each other, and- and she teaches me to play guitar… she writes songs for me… she has the sweetest cats… and she’s so beautiful and i can’t believe she’s mine…” peter rambled on with glazed eyes and a dopey smile on his face.

steve scowled.

wanda sighed dreamily. “i can tell how much you like her… your thoughts are so bright every time you think about her…”

“excuse me?” peter raised his eyebrows defensively. “were you… reading my mind?”

“there are no secrets in this tower, underoo.” tony slung a heavy arm over peter. “what’s yours is ours.”

peter squinted. “i’m pretty sure that’s not how the saying- whatever.”

“secrets? please, we all remember when you tried to hide your baby photos. the vents were a stupid idea.” natasha snorted. “anyways, when do we get to meet her?”

“meet who?” peter lied innocently. if the avengers had been this zealous over a couple pictures of her, god knows what they’d do if they ever saw her in person? (and god knows what steve would do.)

“doesn’t matter. play dumb all you want kid, but we both know you’re smarter than that.” tony chattered absentmindedly, but peter went red at the casual compliment. “i saw the tour dates already; peter left ‘em in his room. second to last concert’s in new york, two weeks from now. i’ll pull a couple strings; easy.”

tony took off his yellow-tinted glasses and cleaned the lenses on his shirt. “right. jarvis, cancel all plans for the saturday two weeks from now. and reschedule that dry cleaners appointment to… uh, tuesday. gotta wash the merch before wearing it. oh yeah, and set a reminder for… tonight at 9, to shop for merch.”

tony looked smugly down at peter, who blinked a few times, dazed. “uh, thank you, i guess? thank you, mr. stark.”

in the two weeks leading up to the concert, peter was hearing your voice all over the compound. steve had officially indoctrinated bucky and sam into fans after he’d showed them his favorite album, and now the three of them would frequently squabble over which songs were the best lyrically, melodically, and emotionally.

peter had seen wanda comforting a crying clint, who’d been listening to all too well on repeat for three days straight. (peter wasn’t sure why. clint was happily married.)

he nearly had a heart attack when natasha cornered him murderously with a perfectly manicured finger pointed threateningly at his chest. (right then, peter tried to come to terms with the fact that in his eulogy, they would reveal that he had died from a fingernail impaling.) it turned out that natasha had come to interrogate peter on how he’d met you, confessing that she wanted girl tips. natasha had also sworn to make his death long and painful if he ever told anybody about it.

what delighted peter the most is when he’d heard tony listening to one of your songs in lieu of his hard metal while working in his lab. and he swore he’d tony humming one of your songs while making breakfast a few days before the concert.

peter didn’t think it was possible, but his high was only multiplied once your merch arrived. it was like a second civil war had broken out. tony had made sure to order multiple of each item, but overlooked the fact that all the avengers wanted the limited edition concert tour t-shirt and an autographed copy of your newest album. he watched from the sidelines as grown adults threw hissy fits over themed notebooks and guitar picks (even though none of them played guitar), knowing he was already supplied thanks to your gifts.

even may, mj, and ned had gotten into the spirit. they’d surprised him one evening, after a tiring mission, by showing him the short video you’d sent them along with 3 vip tickets.

“hi aunt may,” you smiled lovingly at the camera. “thank you so much for… everything, i guess. for raising peter. and letting him see me; i know that it’s not easy or typical, but peter’s job isn’t easy or typical either. i love your son so, so dearly, and i just wanted to let you know that i’d do almost anything for him—whatever his job entails and whatnot. i’ve been on tour, so haven’t seen peter in a while, but i would love to see him again and maybe meet you and peter’s friends as well, which is why i’ve sent you three tickets.”

may cooed and told peter what an angel you were, and ned and mj teased him relentlessly for how stupidly in love he looked when he saw your face in the video.

“you’re down bad, man,” ned laughed, pushing peter’s chest. mj punched peter’s arm, telling him he was “one lucky bastard,” and peter’s only reaction was to whine about how they were manhandling him.

the night before the concert, peter was panicking about what to wear. though tony had been the most annoying about peter’s relationship, he’d come to check on his mentee and tony’s heart panged as he saw the anxiety radiating off of peter.

“what’s wrong, spiderboy?” tony sat on the edge of peter’s bed as the boy examined himself in the mirror. tony patted the space beside him.

“n-nothing, mr. stark.”

tony looked at peter disbelievingly.

peter sighed. “i’m just- she’s a superstar, like, she’s got fans and front-page modeling contracts and everyone loves her. sometimes i just don’t believe that she’d actually love me, y’know? ‘cause she’s her, and i’m just peter. some kid from queens who got bitten by a spider.” peter looked at his feet, eyes burning. “i’m not rich, or famous, or popular—i still get picked on by flash!”

peter looked up at tony with red-rimmed eyes. “and i’m not like all the fancy celebrities that she’s around—she could have anyone. anyone. i’m pretty sure janelle monáe talked about her in an interview once. janelle. monáe. a-and jojo siwa danced to her music in a tiktok. and i can’t even tell you how many men say they have crushes on her in interviews and stuff… it’s like, i’m never there. we’re both busy, and she’s surrounded by people who are way cooler and smarter and famous-er than me, and it freaks me out, mr. stark.”

tony’s cool demeanor broke upon seeing how genuinely devastated peter was. “underoo, this girl wrote a song for you. hell, i think the most romantic thing i’ve done for pepper recently was eating lunch with her. jarvis? remind me to do something romantic for pepper. she talks to you almost every day, and trust me, i know, because we can hear you jabbering from the common room.

“kid, you work for me. that makes you pretty damn cool. you went to space—even though i said not to, but whatever—and you’re spiderboy. i passed by a street vendor selling knockoff spiderman masks the other day. people love you too. the team loves you. and i guess i think you’re pretty okay too. the girl loves you, spidey. jojo siwa has nothin’ on you.”

peter sniffed. “you really think so?”

“yeah, yeah. don’t push it.” tony went to leave peter’s room, but not before pointing to peter’s closet and winking. “it’s a secret.”

he opened the closet doors, shuffling through a couple of shirts you'd left behind and one of your cardigans. it was the same as always. but in his peripherally, peter caught sight of one of tony’s $200 smarthangers beholding the last limited edition tour shirt that had “mysteriously” gone missing. (bucky and sam were accusing each other for days.) he ran his hands over the cotton fabric, which was softer than he’d expected. tony must’ve dry-cleaned it for him beforehand. peter smiled, wiping his eyes with the back of his hand.

peter fiddled with the hem of his shirt the entire ride to the venue. happy picked him, may, ned, and mj up in the limo a bit earlier than the rest of the team was planning on leaving so they could get settled into their vip seats.

the venue was smaller than he’d expected. you’d played in much larger spaces before, with huge audiences and grand stages with special effects, but tonight was almost intimate. peter’s heart was beating until he felt it in his throat and may squeezed his hand reassuringly. he’d heard you sing on facetime, or in the videos you’d sent to him, but never live. he thought he might’ve been more scared than you were.

as the venue filled, peter’s anxiety only increased. mj and ned were bubbling happily, and peter caught the avengers waving to him from a section just a bit further from the stage. he was secretly grateful that they weren’t up front with him. maybe it was selfish, but he wanted you to himself tonight.

when the lights dimmed and ambient music begin filling the air, peter watched as you slowly rose from a platform under the stage until you were fully revealed, holding a sleek black guitar, beaming so brightly that peter was pretty sure you wouldn’t need the stage lights.

the cheering of the crowd was dull in his ears. he was mesmerized by the way you moved, adjusting the vintage microphone in front of you. it was only you on stage, illuminated by a spotlight, standing in front of your microphone like you were at home on a stage in front of hundreds of people.

you needed no introduction before you began singing a song that peter hadn’t heard before.

vintage tee, brand new phone. high heels on cobblestones. when you are young they assume you know nothing…

it was your first date. peter had exchanged his science pun shirts for an old band tee, and you’d complimented him immediately, revealing that you were also a fan. you’d dropped and cracked your phone on the sidewalk that night, stumbling over a bump in the concrete and falling into peter. you’d made a stupid joke, “it looks like i’ve fallen for you,” and peter had laughed like you were the funniest person in the world.

but i knew you, dancing in your levi’s, drunk under a streetlight, i… i knew you, hand under my sweatshirt, baby kiss it better, i… and when i felt like i was an old cardigan under someone’s bed, you put me on and said i was your favorite.

it was the night you’d first kissed. it had started raining, both of your socks were all wet, and the sweatshirt peter had given you to wear after you’d gotten cold was soaked through. you’d pasted your hands under his shirt onto his chest, claiming you needed warmth. he did the same.

to kiss in cars and downtown bars was all we needed… you drew stars around my scars but now i’m bleedin’...

it was you and him, trying not to be seen. you and him, avoiding cameras and crowds—hiding behind tinted car windows and hole-in-the-wall restaurants. it was you and him: when he took you swinging right before you left to tour and you scraped your knees from the rough landing. you and him: peter kissing your cuts and apologizing profusely about giving you scars right before your concert. you and him, when you’d pulled him into your chest and told him you’d sacrifice anything to be under the stars with him.

‘cause i knew you, steppin’ on the last train, marked me like a bloodstain, i… i knew you, tried to change the ending, peter losing wendy, i…

you and him: when he’d hugged you goodbye in a quiet corner at the train station and wiped away your tears from under your sunglasses. you and him: when peter watched as the spiderman bandaids on your knees that he’d given you last night as you bled walked further and further away. you and him: when he’d called you and cried after a difficult mission, telling you how he thought he might have not made it and how the thought of losing you—his darling—was what kept him going. you and him: how you’d wanted to cancel your tour and see him again, but how he insisted that you keep going, that the both of you kept going.

i knew i’d curse you for the longest time, chasin’ shadows in the grocery line; i knew you’d miss me once the thrill expired, and you’d be standin’ in my front porch light…

you and him: how you’d fought halfway through your tour, when he didn’t understand why you didn’t want to go public with your relationship. you and him: how you’d gone grocery shopping with him but dropped his hand and left as soon as cameras appeared. you and him: how he’d told you that the secrecy of the relationship might be thrilling for you, but was hurting him. you and him: how he’d promised that no matter how difficult your relationship got, you’d always have a home at his and may’s apartment.

and i knew you’d come back to me, and you’d come back to me… and you’d come back…

next to peter, ned and mj hollered excitedly and jumped up and down; may screamed and clapped. peter hadn’t budged, staring up at you with awe and pride as your strumming faded out. he would’ve been content staring at you, glowing as you immersed in your element, until ned elbowed him.

you tapped the microphone a couple of times and the stage lights began to reveal the landscape behind you; a small band, a few background singers, and a simple, natural scene.

you cleared your throat. “thank you, new york!”

peter had never heard a sound sweeter than your giggle as you watched the audience cheer and wave their glowsticks.

“thank you! this is the second to last concert of my tour, and it’s been such a privilege to play for you. you guys are the first to hear my new single, cardigan, that i wrote while on tour.”

there was more screaming and your eyes scanned the audience for something that you evidently hadn’t found, given the nearly imperceptible frown on your face.

“uh, this song is really important to me, ‘cause it’s about someone i really love. i haven’t seen him in a while, and god, i miss him, and i hope he knows that i’d always come back to him…” you sniffled, and the audience cooed.

“y’know, sometimes you have those moments when you’re paralyzed or when you’re scared, so you keep trying to live in the past, where things are easy and you already know how everything ends. but if you take the easy route, trying to protect yourself from the unknown, you end up losing what could’ve been. all the new moments that you’ll never get to have because you’re too busy living in old memories. ‘cause when you stay behin, the people you love might want to move forward, take risks, and explore even better things. so you might lose them.”

your eyes searched the audience once more. “and i’ve learned so much from being on tour with you all. it’s very- if you don’t know, everything that goes on behind the scenes in the music industry is very… intentional. every word, action, public appearence—it’s all planned. but i met this boy; or rather, i fell in love with this boy, and he makes me want to say, ‘fuck the plans.’” the audience roared and you laughed jubiantly alongside them.

“i don’t know if i’m allowed to swear, actually. it’s fine,” you admitted. “anyways, he makes me want to take chances, even if that terrifies me. ‘cause honestly, it did; still does. i hope he’s here today. i can’t see him from here, but his name is peter. peter parker.”

there were cheers and murmurs, and peter heard heard thor somewhere in the back roar, “the spi- the small man is here!” thor pointed vigorously to the front, where peter was standing and blushing profusely. there was a bit of sweat beading on his forehead, and sure, the body heat from the crowd was pretty hot, but the fire in his cheeks had nothing to do with that.

peter watched as you walked towards the edge of the stage to where thor was pointing, shouting back at him with a quick banter that the audience seemed to love. peter cupped his hands around his mouth and shouted, praying you could hear it from amidst the crowd, because he couldn’t even hear himself.

your eyes widened and you burst into a grin as you locked eyes with peter. “oh my god, is it- peter?”

peter nodded, face contorting into surprise and then adoration and then determination as the both of you rushed forward to try and touch each other. you fell to your knees and reached your hand out to peter, and he took is tightly between both of his. you mouthed his name so that nobody but him could see it, and under the harsh stage lights, peter could clearly see the watery tears collecting at the corner of your eyes that you carefully dabbed away as to not smudge any of your makeup.

“peter—this is peter, my boyfriend!” you announced to the crowd, holding his hand up. “is there any way you can come up-” you looked around for stairs.

peter smirked, slinging himself onto the stage with ease. he’d scaled buildings before. this was no challenge, especially because he had an incentive to work towards.

“oh, you’re just climbing- that works too!” you offered him your hands to pull him to his feet and enveloped him into a hug. you’d left him a bottle of your perfume before you’d left, but nothing could compare to actually holding you in your arms. you smelled like sweat and hairspray, but he could still catch hints of your perfume and the shampoo you loved.

when you let go of him, still keeping one of your hands in his, peter snuck a glance at the audience. from the stage, the venue seemed twice as large. he could see may, mj, and ned waving and screaming at him, and a bit further back, he could see thor waving his hands maniacally and tony, who had somehow managed to clear out a spot, actually smiling.

“what am i supposed to do?” peter hissed to you, smiling awkwardly at the audience as his heart pounded. fighting robot-alien-ancient-powerful-gods was so much easier than this.

“kiss me?” you whispered, eyes glittering. peter didn’t need to be told twice.

“so i’m peter? and you’re wendy darling?”

“mhm,” you sighed, brushing a strand of hair from his forehead.

“i’ll never lose you, darling. i’ll always come back to you.”

.・。.・゜✭・.・✫・゜・。.

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invisible-pink-toast · 3 years ago

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Jane the Virgin is still the most aggravating show ever when it comes to a love story.

So we have the protagonist Jane Villanueva:

She’s sweet, a romantic, a writer, a know-it-all, tries to be the best at Everything and family is the most important thing to her. She deserves all the good things.

As for love interests we have:

Michael Cordero

Who she marries! When they’re engaged early in season 1 there’s a lot of drama and they break up - and then they both grow as people and learn to be good friends before eventually getting back together and getting married.

He’s a very sweet guy who cares about Jane more than anything! He puts her safety ahead of his romantic feelings, he helps save her abuela in secret but doesn’t tell her it was him because he didn’t want her to think he was doing it to get her back, he loves her son Mateo and comes to think of him as his own son. His response to her being a virgin who’s saving herself until marriage is “okay, we’ll have to wait until we’re married then”.

They are best friends who understand each other so deeply, they support each other, respect each other, have fun and are honestly just so sweet together.

Until he dies. And it’s honestly insanely heartbreaking (and foreshadowed from s1 so it’s all planned) but Jane’s grief is very real and it takes her years to move forwards and it’s made so clear that she will always love Michael.

until the writing went to complete shit and they brought him back in the last season with amnesia and a personality change into an asshole and ruined everything and it was so messy and didn’t make any sense fuck

The next love interest is

Petra Solano

The only good thing about the second half of the show was Petra and Jane’s relationship. Throughout the show these two balance each other out and bring out both the best (and sometimes worst) of each other. Jane listens to and protects Petra even when Petra’s still an antagonist, Petra goes out of her way to secret grand gestures for Jane (like BUYING HER A HOUSE get you a gal pal like that).

Petra, the ever confident ice queen, nervously asks Jane out (the show literally calls it a date), they have brunch together every week to support each other and keep their children close. They become best friends and each other’s family! They also literally: have a big public ‘I love you!’ confession, technically sort of get engaged, have a dance number where they almost kiss and people assume they’re together.

People thought Petra was bi because of her interactions with Jane, and in season 4 Petra does come out as bisexual! Jane also considers that she might be bisexual and she totally is. The show threw in a couple of “we’re sisters!” lines towards the end of the show to try to alleviate some of the romantic tension but I’ve never known two sisters to almost make out with each other.

After Michael died and Jane had time and closure, Petra was the perfect love interest for her. But the writers were cowards.

Next up on the love interests is

Adam Alvaro

Adam was Jane’s first love! They nearly got married at 19 (which was a terrible idea and luckily didn’t happen). But then years later Adam unknowingly moved into Jane and Michael’s old house and found a hidden love letter Michael had written. Adam thought it showed what love should truly be about and it changed how he lived his life. And three years later he found out that the letter belonged to his Jane and he returned it and they were reunited.

He brings love and fun back into Jane’s life. She’s reminded what it’s like to feel alive again. He knows how important her book about her and Michael is - so he makes a cover for it! When she finds out he’s bisexual she does freak out a bit (which I think was more the writers trying to start drama because she’s super chill with Petra being bi) but they have a very lovely heart-to-heart.

They really start to fall for each other, until the terrible writing booted him from the show (the episode after he came out btw) when he suddenly breaks up with Jane to move across the country. I never really felt like these two were going to end up together, but they could have if they kept developing their relationship. Anyway they were sweet and their relationship deserved better.

Next up is:

No one!

This is a love story, but the heart of this show was always familial love, not romantic love. The three generations of Villanueva women - Alba, Xo and Jane - and their bond is so important. And as the show progresses their family extends - to Jane’s father Rogelio and her baby Mateo (as well as more found family like Petra). And Jane’s writing is so important to her as well!

Although I wanted Jane to get a partner who loved her, if the show ended with Jane happy with her family, publishing her book about their story (perhaps with an optimistic outlook for future romance) I would’ve been happy.

But no. Even with all those options that’s not what the show did.

They set her up with this abusive creep, Raphael Solano.

In season 1 it seems like he’s the “perfect guy” but after he and Jane get together it turns out he: puts work above all else, doesn’t handle any setbacks well and gets drunk and angry, doesn’t listen to Jane and gets defensive and petty when she tries to talk to him about it, has a terrible reaction to her telling him she’s a virgin, then breaks her heart “for her own good” only to backtrack like two episodes later and try to get her to forget about that and get back together with him. What a keeper.

Then it season 2 he: lies to her, forces Michael away from her, manipulates her, multiple times during fights Raphael tries to get up in her space and she has to say things like ‘Leave. Now!’ or ‘Let me pass!’

Admittedly, after they break up, I started to like Raphael. I liked that on Jane and Michael’s wedding day, he was still so in love with Jane that he wanted to confess, but he kept it to himself and was just there for her. I liked that he made his children his top priority. I like that he mellowed out, that he took responsibility for his own actions, that he was there for Jane after Michael died (especially that sweet flashback at Michael’s funeral), that he and Jane became good friends.

Them as good friends was wonderful! But apparently men and women can’t be friends in this show. I think if the writing was good, they could have pulled it off with them getting back together and being happy (like they did with Jane and Michael).

But Jane and Raphael get back together once the writing goes to hell.

He is pushy, aggressive, jealous. When things get hard he once again just gets drunk and aggressively lashes out at Jane (who has done nothing wrong but feels like she’s to blame). When he finds out Michael (AKA Jane’s husband) is alive which is terrible writing, he doesn’t tell Jane and instead has sex with her! And the scene is so weird and intense, it’s got major rape vibes especially considering she’s consenting while he’s holding back critical information.

I can understand that finding out your partner’s dead husband was still alive would be awful for you, the current boyfriend. But taking it out on your girlfriend is horrible!

Raphael also does things like: once again break Jane’s heart, pick fights all the time, turn their son Mateo against her in their break up, have an absolute meltdown when Jane suggests Mateo has ADHD (which he does), refuse to even consider testing their son, threatening for sole custody when Jane does the test anyway and finds out that yes, Mateo has ADHD.

Like if his shitty behaviour was just early on that would be bad, but if he realised how wrong he was, apologised and did better, that would probably be okay. But his shitty behaviour continues throughout the entire show, right up until the end. He treats Jane like crap and the show NEVER holds him accountable for it, instead treating their relationship as an epic romance.

When the show finished my sister’s friend was 15 - and she loved Raphael and thought their relationship was so romantic. And that’s terrible! It’s terrible that this young girl thinks that the way that creep treats women is not only okay but romantic!!! AAAAAAAAAA!?!?!?!

And there were so many good, happy, healthy options for romance of love or honestly any kind of ending rather than the one the show went with. I stopped watching the show at the end of season 4 after I realised it was only going to get worse. I still kept up with it (a tiny part of me thought Jane and Petra wasn’t just queerbaiting but might really happen) but am very glad I stopped watching because it was just terrible.

#i think i'm over this show and it pulls me back in and disappoints me all over again #i get so mad honestly there were so many ways it could've been good and it was one of the worst things in television history #jane the virgin #jtv #villadero #jane x michael #jane x petra #jetra #jane villanueva #my post #my meta

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dinklebat · 3 years ago

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me: alright since you already told everyone you won’t be posting stuff, you gotta finish this lesson plan for work, then finish my bio packet, then my ee-

my goblin brain: YOU SHOULD UPDATE YOUR SHIPS LIST SINCE ITS CHANGED LIKE 7 TIMES

me:

me: yeah okay

clockwork x camelia(@theweepingdemons)

- both extremely protective over eachother

- clockwork tends to be very >:/ around people but around camelia she gets super duper flustered all the time

- camelia is super oblivious. like…

- clockwork: gay noises. camelia: aha gals being pals

- as soon as clockwork confesses it’s another story. camelia becomes an absolute simp, at least to her standards

- it’s the pinnacle of

- camelia: i hate everyone

- clockwork: *exists* - camelia: i hate ALMOST everyone

ej x liu

- ej is very methodical and scientific whereas liu is extremely emotional

- the two just counteract eachother very well. liu is teaching ej how to better express his feelings and ej is teaching liu how to destress

- ej is also extremely protective of liu, so he gets along well with sully

doby x x virus

- this is probably my OTP out of all pasta ships even though it’s probably only me who ships it

- the two of them joined at the same time and were constantly partnered together

- friends to lovers 💕

- a typical interaction begins with a dumb idea of doby’s

- then cody is like yeah that’s possible, let’s do it

- hence a running total of 7 ruined microwaves between the two of them

kagekao x nathan

- kagekao is extremely flirtatious and nathan easily flustered (poor guy has self esteem lower than mine)

- also very PDA heavy

- kagekao definitely whispers random things in japanese just to fluster nathan because his mind will jump to the worst

jason x candypop

- both extremely chaotic high energy

- jason probably thinks he’s too good for romance but then candypop shows up and everything goes to djjeidjsjdkd

- probably get third wheeled by lj a lot (man still hasn’t realized the two are dating)

jane x nina

- they first bonded over their shared hatred of the feral rat bastard that is jeff✨✨

- jane is elegance and poise while nina is a feral scene kid

- ✨but they’re just so cute together✨

- that one extremely lovey dovey couple with constant PDA

- they wear matching halloween costumes

hoodie x masky

- the homophobic gays TM

- both extremely attracted to eachother but grew up in a very conservative area

- everyone in a 10 mile radius is just begging for them to just date already and get it over with

- the other proxies have definitely set them up on dates to no avail

toby x masky

- entirely one sided simping on toby’s end

- tim does not know nor care

- toby unironically calls him a dilf

- they are really close though, even if they’re not dating (yet)

toby x rowan

- street smart x book smart

- rowan is generally pretty calm albeit awkward whereas toby is this giant bundle of energy

-…also he is very small and toby is a tall buff boy

- “this is my emotional support boyfriend” *holds up tiny bundle of fae awkwardness*

- also funny because toby is a master of pop culture references and rowan has basically been in a coma state for over a century and knows nothing about modern pop culture

lawrencij (@crebby)x adam (@sanityisforlosers)

- they’re bastards and i love them

- probably play couples tennis against camelia and clockwork (and lose and subsequently rage quit)

- is it hate?? love??? idk i don’t really feel romantic attraction so i can’t say /shrug

- angry gremlin energy. i will not elaborate further

y/n x anyone

- in my au, y/n is a mostly normal human except they were born with a ridiculously high amount of mana (magical energy)

- this means all supernatural creatures are naturally drawn to them

- their mana levels are so high that just being near them turns supernatural beings’ powers and emotions up to an 11

- so basically literally every one is attracted to poor y/n, whether romantically or platonically

- I mostly write for y/n x any character not in one of these ships, but I’m down to write polyam relationships with any of these ships too (I’m already planning a y/n x ej x liu)

- I think y/n x jeff and y/n x kate are some of my favorites to write though

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awakefor48hours · 3 years ago

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Talking about Through the Looking Glass Ruins

Alright, whatever you want to call that Loki finale has been living in my head rent free, I’ve noticed that it’s actually beginning to negatively effect my mood in my life. So instead of thinking about that, I’m focusing my attention on the beauty that was The Owl House 2x05

To start off, we see Gus feeling sad about hurting Willow and still feel down the next day. I think this was handled great. Gus isn’t portrayed as weak, feminine, or a joke. He’s portrayed as someone that feels bad and just needs some time to think through his feelings. And let me tell you, it is SO refreshing to see a male character actually be allowed to feel bad and instead show his sadness as a natural thing despite having a happy-go-lucky personality.

The next thing that I really like is how Luz is able to be open with her feelings about Amity to Gus. Gus knows that she likes Amity a lot and he doesn’t make fun of her about, he respects her feelings. Also this makes Amity and Luz’s relationship more open and easier to read unlike Korra and Asami’s in LOK. (I want to make it clear, I’m not mad at the writers for how they wrote Korrasami, I’m mad at Nick for forcing the writers to make their relationship more subtle to avoid cancelled. I know the writers did everything they could and I love them for that.)

After that we see the Glandus kids take down that Slitherbeast. They're shown as these cool/super strong kids and Gus wants to (understandably) fit in with them. So Luz, being the good friend that she, encourages Gus to go with them. Luz isn't trying to manipulate or gain anything from letting Gus go with the Glandus kids. She just wants Gus to go find new people to hang out with and even helps him do that.

When the twins find Luz (who's in the middle of being in love with Amity) they mention that they're looking for skincare tips for Ed. I LOVE this because once again, this isn't portrayed as a feminine or funny thing. The casual mentions that Ed's date uses they/them pronouns (this is the second time they/them pronouns have been used in the show) is also an amazing touch. It's stuff like this that normalizes things that have been "taboo" for so long. When Em teases him, it's "I'm your sister so it's my job to bully you" not "ha, GAAAAAY." (Also for the love of all that’s holy, can cishets please stop gendering objects.)

Then Amity and Luz are able to talk to each other after that and the twin realize that it would be better to just leave them alone so they do to allow Luz and Amity to start talking. This once again, makes their feelings for each other very clear and can’t be easily misinterpreted "just friends being friends" or "gals being pals." You can clearly see the intimacy and romance between the two in this moment.

After that we get to see Amity trying to help Luz with a way to get her home. Amity makes it clear that she could lose her job so Luz tries to think of another way because Luz is just a good person like that. She's putting Amity's needs above her own but Amity also puts Luz's needs above her own. They both clearly respect each other and I love it. This is how relationships should work, platonic or romantic.

Now we go back to the Glandus crew and Gus is actually enjoying himself (with the exception of Matt) and I think it's nice that he's spending time with people outside of his usual circle (even if these people are jerks).

Luz and Amity they once again share a intimate moment and when the realization of how dangerous this actual is Luz wants to go back but it's Amity that pushes them forward. I really like this because it once again shows that Luz respects Amity and isn't trying to be selfish. But Amity, being the lesbian disaster that she is, wants to get the book for Luz.

Now we're back to the Glandus kids and they're hinting to Bria's true colors by showing how she treats Angmar. She's isn't patient with him and she's showing her true colors which is a nice touch. When Gus realizes that the stones are actually from a graveyard he stands up for what he believes in instead of playing along and stealing them. I know how hard it is to do this, I’ve done dumb things to fit in.

Cut back to Luz and Amity and we get to see Amity admit some of her feelings. I think that in this scene, she's in some way admitting to herself just how much she likes Luz. Amity knows she likes Luz but I think that when she finally saying that Luz makes her do crazy things is a way for to confess just how strong her feelings are for Luz.

The last switch to the Glandus kids, we get to see Gus and Matt start talking for real. They start an actual relationship together.

It's also here when Gus suggests a creative way to get rid of the Glandus kids which is something that I really like. I hate the saying "work smarter not harder" because it devalues the way of working out of the box, which is what Gus did. He thought of a new and interesting way to use illusions to get rid of the Glandus guys and it worked. Not to mention, it was accompanied with creepy imagery that I bet wouldn't exist with Alex Hirsch making Gravity Falls.

Now we have the final scene which I love. The Blights are all hanging out together and Amity is talking about her feelings to them. The Blights have a realistic sibling relationship and I love how it's portrayed. You can tell that Amity is serious in this moment so Em is treating it serious unlike earlier in the library when she was poking fun at Ed. She cares about her and even points out that Amity is happy now. Then she helps Amity dye her hair to purple which is also goes to show that she cares more about Amity than whatever her mom thinks. Em cares so much about Amity and it shows so much through this scene.

Next we have Luz who comes to give Amity her card back, which I think is very cute. They share a few blushes and once again Luz shows just how much she cares for Amity. Luz was put in hell and crawled back so Amity could be happy.

Also, now we got to know a little bit more about Philip Wittebane and his time spent on the Boiling Isle. I can't wait to see more (I'm looking at YOU Disney. If you cancel the show, I'm breaking your kneecaps.)

Then we have the scene that will live on in my heart forever: Amity kissing Luz on the cheek. Now, y'all, I just can't BELIEVE this happened. I'm not gonna lie, I thought we would have to wait for forever to get this but no it happened in the middle of the show without any censoring of any kind. We got to see two girls that had a “say you’re not a witch” enemies to “don’t worry, you always have a way of sneaking into people’s hearts” lovers. (Not even all straight ships are like this but I’m not complaining.)

Thank you Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, She Ra, Adventure Time, The Legend of Korra, Star v the Forces of Evil, The Dragon Prince, The Hollow, and every other show with queer representation that I missed (NOT YOU VOLTRON), you're efforts were not in vain. A wall that was up for so long is crumbling and I’m there for it. Future adults are going to be able to look back at their childhood and see themselves in mainstream media without being criminalized or the butt of a joke. A childhood that I know that most of the people in this fandom wished that they could've had.

In conclusion, I love how just about everything was handled in this episode, it's more than the Lumity episode, it's the episode that showed boys that they can feel sad and value their looks, putting the ones you love above yourself, some times it's good to think out of the box, and most importantly: it's okay to be yourself even if it’s hard.

#toh #the owl house #the owl house amity #the owl house luz #lumity #toh lumity #toh gus #the owl house gus #august porter #gus porter #Mattholomule #emira blight #edric blight #i hope ed had a good date #the not spoiler house

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keyladetmer · 3 years ago

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Oblivious

Fandom: Star Trek: Discovery

Relationship: Keyla Detmer / Joann Owosekun

Summary:

Commander Michael Burnham can be a bit oblivious at times. When two members of the bridge crew begin to date, it takes her awhile to notice. 1882 words.

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Everyone on the USS Discovery was aware that Joann Owosekun and Keyla Detmer are dating. It wasn’t a secret.

Well, it was a secret. Briefly. Back in the beginning when things were new and they suddenly went from friends to something more. With new things, it is best to keep it under wraps, else you might end up becoming the scuttlebutt of the week before you are ready to label things. Then the break up is even more awkward, especially on a small ship like Discovery.

It happened at some point after jumping into the 32nd century; their relationship forged in unfamiliar space and time, growing stronger and stronger with each adversity the ship faced together. This part of the story wasn’t exactly a part of the collective memory, as how they got from roommates to girlfriends was kept close to their chests.

(A bottle of wine and some slow dancing in the light of an unfamiliar star may have been involved in that.)

But by this point in time, Detmer and Owosekun had been dating for over a year, and it was old news. They weren’t hiding anymore; the two of them walked the halls hand in hand, had the occasional romantic dinner in the mess hall, and cuddled during movie nights, all in addition to their long-standing habit of engaging in lingering looks on the bridge.

Despite this, Commander Michael Burnham had yet to notice.

At first, it was expected. Flying through a wormhole into a new century was a bit of a bigger deal than the personal life of her bridge crew. Then, she was stranded for a year. Then, it was investigating the Burn… and so on.

After a while, it became an inside joke amongst the bridge crew.

“She said what?” Tilly giggled. A bit of her drink spilt onto the table in her exuberance. The group of them had filled a large booth at the bar tucked into the corner of Starfleet headquarters, the large windows giving them a nice view of the rainforest ship. The space was cozy and filled to the brim with Discovery crew enjoying their evening off on home territory.

“I’m so glad you two are such good ‘friends,’” Rhys said, putting air quotes over the last word.

“Oh yes look at them,” Bryce said, gesturing at how Detmer was curled up, with her legs sprawled on Owosekun’s lap, the two women basically entangled with each other despite having lots of room on their side of the booth. “Such good friends.”

“A girl can play with another girl’s hair without it being gay,” Tilly countered, then she noticed the way Owosekun was gazing at her girlfriend as she ran her fingers through Detmer’s red hair and lightly caressed the juncture between implant and hairline. “Actually no that’s super gay.”

The entire table burst into laughter as Owosekun shrugged.

“Maybe we’re just very good friends,” Detmer said, her own hands occupied by attempting to locate the maraschino cherry that was trapped under the ice in her Cardassian sunrise, and failing to impale the fruit with the sharp end of her tiny paper umbrella. “But seriously, I’m sure I’ve referred to Joann as my girlfriend multiple times in front of the commander.”

“‘Girlfriend’ can technically be platonic,” Nilsson said. “Maybe she thought you were referring to her as your gal pal.”

“Nothing about those two is platonic,” Linus huffed, “but perhaps her limited human vision means that she missed some of the signs.”

“I, for one, do not want to know what those signs were,” Rhys announced. “I already hear too much sharing a wall with those two.”

Detmer tried to punch him lightly on the arm, but he dodged her, raising his fists in a mock-defensive posture.

“Not to mention that you can totally tell when they’re sending messages on their consoles,” Nilsson added. “I can hear Owo giggling all the way from my station.”

“Don’t forget about Keyla’s blushing!” Linus said, “You wouldn’t believe the heat signature her… pale face emits.”

“Hey!” Detmer protests, her face betraying her and lighting up in a saturated flush. “No fair.”

“Friends totally look at each other like that,” Linus said with a sarcastic click. “Friends.”

Owosekun planted a kiss on her girlfriend's bright red cheek.

“Don’t forget that jolt Discovery made that one time when Owo made an innuendo as we were escaping the space flower. I thought we were going to die!” Tilly said and the crowd burst into laughter.

“That was the creature's tongue I swear!” Detmer said. “It was sending off a subspace riptide and you know it!”

“Yeah it was that tongue that you were thinking about, sure,” Owosekun whispered into her ear, only making things worse.

“Why are you ganging up on me?” Detmer hissed.

“It’s quite fun to get my macho pilot in such a state,” she replied.

“Ew!” the group exclaimed collectively at her words, which were definitely not as quiet as she intended.

“Anyway, Commander Burnham’s got more important things to worry about,” Owosekun argued. “She saves the entire galaxy every week.”

“ We save the galaxy every week, too,” Rhys said as he gestured with his glass, “and we’re still able to keep track of who’s doing who on the ship.”

“Gen,” Bryce scolded. “Maybe it’s good that the commander doesn’t know that.”

“Speaking of-” Tilly said, leaning in to whisper. “We have to discuss whatever is going on with Saru and President T’Rina!”

No one informed the commander that evening, and if she noticed something between the two women — or saw their not-so-secret make-out session in the corner of the bar that evening — she didn’t say anything.

“Should we tell her?” Owosekun said, laughing as she walked down the hall with her girlfriend, both a little tipsy after their festivities.

“Hello commander,” Detmer said, pretending to stand at attention and saluting an imaginary Michael Burnam. “We would like to inform you that me and my super hot and sexy girlfriend, Joann Owosekun, and I are totally having amazing sex in our shared quarters, like, all the-”

Owosekun cut her off with a hand over her mouth. “Shush! What if someone hears?”

Detmer stuck her tongue out, forcing Owosekun to let her go. The lieutenant commander stumbled away, wiping her hands on her civvies in mock-disgust.

“Oh come on,” Detmer said. “You know, like half of our neighbours have heard us. For future tech, these walls are thin and you’re good.”

Owosekun just rolled her eyes and walked through the doors to their quarters.

When they had gotten to the 32nd century, they each had been offered single quarters instead of their shared room, but after all they had been through in that room, they had turned it down. When Owosekun had politely declined the offer, Captain Saru had tilted his head and suggested that if they were interested, they could be assigned a larger room for the both of them instead. They had taken this option.

This was the room that they drunkenly stumbled into. It had a large bed and an ensuite bathroom. Definitely an upgrade from their two twin beds on opposite sides of the room. Well, they had only been on opposite sides of the room for a few months before they decided to push the beds together. Back then, they enjoyed sharing a bed. As friends. Friends who cuddle and comfort each other after nightmares and friends who drunkenly kiss once in a while. Friends.

Owosekun pushed Detmer down onto their bed, watching her red hair splay out like a halo before climbing up onto her, her knees resting on either side of Detmer’s hips.

“You know,” Detmer said as Owosekun kissed along her jaw towards her ear. “If we get married then Michael would have to realize we’re together.”

“Keyla…” Owosekun said, pulling back to look at her. “Was that a proposal?”

“I’m just saying,” she said with a laugh and a glint in her bright blue eyes.

Owosekun laughed in return before surging forward to kiss her deeply, the buzz of alcohol and the exhilaration that came with every touch banished thoughts of anything but the beautiful woman in the bed they shared.

A real proposal came a few months later. It was a quiet moment with another bottle of wine and a ring that Detmer showed off the next morning at breakfast to a crowd of cheers from their friends. The two women sat beaming as their love and commitment was congratulated and celebrated by those they loved.

By this point, the question of the commander's awareness had slipped their minds completely.

This was how the giddy pair ended up in an officer’s meeting with a very confused Commander Michael Burnham and a crew trying to suppress their laughter.

“Does anyone else have anything to add?” Burnham asked the group after she and Captain Saru had finished her run-down on their latest mission from Starfleet command.

“Actually commander,” Detmer said, raising her hand slightly. “We’d like to, er, announce something.”

“We?” she asked with a Vulcan-like quirk of her eyebrow.

“Joann and I,” Detmer clarified.

“I proposed to Keyla last night,” Owosekun said, and for emphasis, Detmer held up her hand revealing the shiny duratanium that was salvaged from a damaged section of the hull. Owosekun had made it herself, with a little bit of help from Jett Reno and Adira Tal in engineering, who when seeing it in the meeting, gave the fiancées a matching set of thumbs up.

“And a hearty congratulations are in order for the brides to be!” Captain Saru said, clasping his hands together in his excitement.

“Proposed… marriage?” Burnham asked haltingly. The table burst into laughter once their suspicions were confirmed: she truly was oblivious of their relationship.

“Well I guess now she knows!” Tilly exclaimed as the confusion on Michael’s face was incredibly clear. Her mouth was open and her brows furrowed.

“You never said anything-“ Michael stuttered, looking between Tilly and the couple with a look of betrayal on her face. Tilly shrugged, grinning at the commander's befuddlement.

“What a beautiful couple,” Dr. Culber said with a smile. “I’m happy for both of you.”

Bryce shook his head while Nilsson grinned, knowing she had won their betting pool. Bryce began tapping at his PADD under the table, forwarding her his upcoming holosuite slots for payment.

"So you put a ring on it. Finally," Reno said. “Don’t fuck it up, Owosekun."

Owosekun just smiled at he engineer who continued after a slight pause: "You either, Detmer.”

Keyla rested her right hand on her chest and said: "Scouts honour."

Both women were grinning in their joy but couldn’t help but laugh at the fact that after all this time, the Commander still hadn’t noticed their relationship.

“Are you telling me that Commander Burnham didn’t know?” Saru asked with a quirk of his head and a click of his tongue. He looked over to his Number One whose head was held in her hands in mortification at the fact that everyone in the room knew but her.

“They literally live together,” Stamets said with a furrowed brow. “Didn’t you have to oversee their couples quarters?”

“No- I,” Burnham stuttered. “I thought they were just really good friends.”

The entire briefing room erupted into laughter.

#jola #keyla detmer #joann owosekun #star trek discovery #star trek: discovery #discovery #disco #michael burnham #detmers.doc #fanfic #fic #joann x keyla #detmer x owo

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Mike comes out to El , Mileven breaks up for good, and the future of byler (s4 theory)

*this is based off the stranger things movie inspirations they listed on twitter , in the show, or in interviews/other outside materials. All movies mentioned have been said to be inspo for the show.

So I’ll be mentioning mostly the movies- sw*ngers, what women want, wet hot american summer and splash (and others). Along with Tootsie -which was shown in s4 bts.

Before I give a rough outline of what may happen. I have to specify I don’t think El will be “heartbroken” over mileven cause I don’t think she loves Mike romantically . I’ve already discussed why i think she doesn’t love him romantically at nauseam - but regardless mileven brings out the worst in El and Mike. And literally inhibits her character growth. So as an El fan- I’m super excited for mileven to be put to rest. SORRY. I’ll trade El & Kali teaming up to get closure from their ab*ser ...over mileven any day of the week XD.

I think Mileven broke up in s3 (and remained broken up) . But we’ll have more closure and a more official breakup in s4 when Mike visits the byers. (And Mike admits he’s gay to his ex )- before byler officially begins. Essentially, I think- Mileven broke up, but El still calls constantly .And Mike starts ignoring her calls so El demands an explanation and he admits to her he’s gay and doesn’t want to get back together.

So first lets talk about Phone calls

I think based off the movies and s3 we’ll see El call quite a bit in s4 (almost obsessively) . And Mike has had enough. In s3, he said he’ll call so often -she’ll have to turn her walkie off . But I believe it’ll be the opposite-with El calling so much he’ll turn it off.

We see foreshadowing for this in s3 when Mike hangs up the phone after saying “El ? no, sorry, not interested.” Or when he hangs up on her multiple other times that season ( he even technically hung up the walkie on her in s2 , as well ). But, in defense of El, given her lack of socialization (and seeing mike call her constantly between s1-2 I wouldn’t be surprised if she thought this was the norm).

-In splash there’s a scene similar to s3 - a blond relative picks up another phone to eavesdrop on him talking to his gf. He yells at the blonde relative and when the gf asks if he loves her -he tries to dodge the question. But they break up and he admits to his relative he never loved her. Maybe confessing to Karen?

* This reminds me of that supposed rumor with El saying “I love you” and Mike not into El just saying “I know” in return.Or Mike in s3 saying quickly “i miss you-bye.” And immediately hanging up on her.

-some other aspects of the s3 breakup may be taken from “pineapple express .Which had comedic breakups via phone . When broken-up he says “I love you “ and she says it back to him (like mileven). He IMMEDIATELY says he takes it back and “I made a mistake” (when he sees she took him seriously). And then he specifies that’s it’s because she’s must be too “ naive and immature” to willing to take him back after how horrible of a bf he was to her in the past. Which yeah -fits mileven: they said the ‘L word’ when broken up, Mike did immediately try to take it back , and he may have realized at the s3 finalie how naive el was -to still want him back despite him not being a good bf to her. In ‘p.i’ the girl’s mom even says maybe it’s best she find someone new who actually appreciated her or ‘better yet just be single’ and hang out with her gal pals (lol if joyce gave this advice to El-that’d be great)! El doesn’t need romance to be her own-happy person! Also in ‘p.i’ Dale + his male bff are always assumed to be gay for eachother as a running gag .So ... I’ll technically throw that as another byler hint- lol.

-In sw*ngers Michael (yes that’s his name) who is made fun of for being perceived as gay gets a call from his ex gf of 6 months). And he hangs up on her to talk to his other love interest who asks if he wants to see her. Michael (specifically hangs up on his ex as she says “I lo-” to talk to this new love interest. He later brags to his friend (at a dinner) about not calling her back (despite her wanting to get back together) and he says proudly she was “always his ex”- when his friend incorrectly calls her his “gf” .

-While in ‘what women want’- an ex gf goes to him cause he didn’t answer her calls. In ‘tootsie’ the gf does the same and is pissed that her bf Michael (yes, yet another michael) didn’t answer her calls for a week. And he LIES saying his answering machine was broken. Would not be surprised if mike made up such an excuse.

Similar to ‘tootise’ & in ‘what women want’-both gals who’s phone calls were ignored ask if their bf (in mileven’s case -ex bf ) is gay. And in ‘swingers’ someone makes fun of mike for being gay. too Lol-i’m sorry 2 movies where a guy named Mike is called out for being gay /and 2 movies where a gf who’s phone calls are ignored asks is they’re bf is gay is suspish XD

In ‘tootsie’. We also have movie-mike give her a present before she asks if he’s gay /they breakup -it echos what previously happened in s3.

- Michael (from the film) despite not want to be with her anymore (and loving someone else) tries giving her a gift to patch things up - despite his lying/ignoring her. The gift /empty gesture annoys her. Which is similar to st- mike not apologizing for lying- but trying to give El a gift to make up with her (but he doesn’t even do as much as film-Mike).

Right after this is when she asks if he’s gay (aka so for mileven we have the gift scene for s3 & El asking if he’s gay in s4-which were both borrowed from ‘tootsie’).

In ‘tootsie’, she finds romantic letters Michael has from another guy and this causes her to ask him if he’s gay .(20+ movies have romantic letters). In ‘littlewomen’ the artist gal and her future husband (who used to have a crush on the painter’s sis) exchange letters.And in ‘wet hot american summer’- a guy ditched his friends to write a letter (and his friends make a gay joke about him because of his letter writing-not knowing he’s actually gay.

In ‘what women want’ when confronted- he admits he’s gay to his ex gf. In ‘tootsie’ she asks if he’s gay and he avoids the question but after she demands that he be “truthful for once in your life”. And, we all know how Mike constantly “lied” to EL .michael finally says he’ll stop lying to her and admits he’s in love with someone else.

And she says in turn she’s not angry he doesn’t love her but that he lied (and similar to s2 where Mike calls Hopper a “liar”. The ex gf calls movie-mike a “liar” over and over). In fact they use the identical phrase of “you liar. you liar.”

Not to mention- she does sound like El. She says she’s more upset about the lying than the fact movie-mike doesn’t love her.

But I do think they eventually get closure and El realizes she doesn’t love Mike (romantically either) before her real character/story arc begins.

movies: twister & you got mail

I’m so ready for the El & Kali teamup in s4. It’s like s2 (we get El & Kali pursuing Brenner + byler moments).

But what happens before Mike says this?I assume before this -mike & Will may confide in others about their feelings. And Mike/Will may be bullied for being perceived as gay .

-In “welcome to the dollhouse” a boy is bullied for being seen as gay in school & at an arcade- and a character who is made fun for being a lesbian defends him at school/the arcade (so maybe robin?)Since Robin works next to the arcade/is gay. Similarly, Fin’s character (at an arcade) is bullied and called a “fairy” and f*g” in ‘It 2′. And movie-Mike is made fun of for being perceived as gay in ‘sw*ngers’. Along with the guy (who was gay) being called homophobic names for writing letters (in wet hot american summer).We also know hawkins will most likely have a ‘satanic panic’ over d&d, rock music, and other things- which was historically rooted in christian fundamentalism.In ‘Kingsmen’ the churchgoers pretty much go on a rant being hom*phobic, r*cist, anti-science, anti-athe*st, anti-other religions, and anti-democrat and equate all of these groups of people to the endtimes/the anti christ. So one guy just snaps and says he’s gay, loves science , etc and says after “so... hail satan .And have a lovely day.”And storms out. lol not sure about all that -but it’d be hilarious XD. Trigger warning for hom*phobic sl*rs.

-Proof For Will was : In ‘heathers’ the jocks make fun of the new guy in the cafeteria- by asking him if he misses his boyfriend and call him the f-sl*r .in ‘superbad’ the guy who draws is called hom*phobic sl*rs and in ‘wedding crashers’ someone calls the male-painter character a “homo”. In “hackers” the (computer-nerd) who just moved to town is asked by his single mom if he “likes girls”.etc

Also, in “The guest” a computer-nerd in highschool is bullied for being perceived as gay (and he’s given really bad advice about how to deal with it by a lonnie-esque character who is visiting his house/family for a while). The advice is also similar to the advice given in the st comic (from Troy’s dad).

Honestly just the fire ref makes me nervous. The computer-boy eventually snaps (after never standing up for himself) and beats up his homophobic bullies.

*whenever Lonnie comes back - I assume we’ll see he’s a bad influence on Will pretty quickly

In ‘the guest’ they also made a joke that the clearly older guest must be the gay highschoolers’ boyfriend (which is not the case).

While In ‘stoker’ ,the highschool painter eventually loses it after dealing with constant harrassment- and stabs the bully’s hand (to block a punch coming their way) after the bully made an inc*st joke about the painter & the family guest. So a joke like that could certainly cause Will to finally snap (as opposed to the other gay jokes they used earlier). In ‘dukes of hazzard’ a guy also snapped and got into a fight over a inc*st joke (and in ‘girl interrupted” they make a similar messed up inc*st joke).

Given my theory on Will’s trauma with his dad (which he doesn’t remember)-I would not be surprised even on a subconscious level such a comment finally gets him to snap -maybe accidentally unleash his powers for the first time?Lonnie could say something about how Will should light his bullies on fire, they make a triggering joke about Lonnie &himself... and Will the wise does have fire powers after all. In the film ‘firestarter’ the kid who couldn’t control their fire abilities also lights a bully on fire accidentally so... maybe? In ‘skyhigh’ Will’s superpowers aren’t revealed until he accidentally unleashes them on a bully in the lunchroom. And 1 character in that scene says “don’t talk about my dad” before using his fire powers. Also... it’s not on the inspo list technically but the Duffers are known avengers/xmen fans.So Will could be based on scarlet witch’s son William (code name Wiccan) - he’s gay ,has lightning&fire powers and can alter reality. He’s been possessed In the past by the ‘demiurge’ - even spit up a slug too. He opens a portal to his world allowing the inter dimensional monster “mama” out (cough demogorgans are called “deep father”.) And he’s constantly bullied for being gay- and the 1 time he finally decides to stand up to his h*mophobic bullies- is the day his powers activate for the first time and almost k*ll the bully. Not super confident in this theory but thought I’d mention it just in case. Ok- this post is supposed to not be too plot heavy. So back to byler-

*Before Mike visits they may both confide in people about their feelings for the other . in skyhigh (at a dinner similar to the convo in sw*ngers where Mike talks about his ex gf) the bff of Will (yes his name) goes on and on about Will and how she’s known him since the first grade. And someone asks “so you’ve been in love with Will since the 1st grade?” Which she tries denying but quickly admits is true. And her friend says she should confess to Will.

In fisher king - a women who works at a videostore tries setting up 2 people- a gal-writer and a guy with an alternate personality/ who hallucinates a fearsome mythical creature (obviously Will). When people doubt the idea the girl can love this mentally ill guy she says “stranger things have been known to happen.” And in “altered states” the guy who would hallucinate flashing to another hell dimension (like Will)- has a wife. And people say “she’s crazy about him and he’s crazy.” When they weren’t together she says to her friend she had to pretend anyone she dated was him and she says “it’s crazy” in response the friend says “i think that’s how it’s supposed to be.” Plus in fisherking one character wrote a book dedicated to his wife (which had the same title as the movie they’re in) . And someone says about this author “ he was crazy about her” as he holds the novel in his hands.

* The ‘pretending the person you’re dating is someone you’re actually in love with’ was also mentioned in ‘children of paradise’ (reffed by Robin in s3).

*I’ve also talked about Mike projecting his feelings for Will to El-here.

Will confiding in someone is harder to say. in ‘reality bites’ when asking about why she doesn’t want to be involved in romance a friend asks “because of Michael?” Which she first denies but later admits is part of the reason.

And in ‘hellboy’, (while taking pics) John Myers tells the fire wielding character (with mental health issues) that her bff is in love with her and asks how she feels . The 2 bffs are endgame but at first she tells John that she’s unsure because she’s known him practically her whole life (but she thinks of him everyday).

Lol not sure if Jonathan would ever be so straight forward but it’d be nice callback to s1/2 convos they had (Jon saying in s1 to not like things cause you’re supposed to / saying being a “freak” like queer david bowie is cool) .In “twister” & “it’s a wonderful life” a family member also tells a character that their childhood friend that they’re in love with (isn’t into the person they’re currently with). In ‘ wonderful life’ she says they’re “not crazy” about the other person-but them. And they say they know this cause they “have eyes.” And In “twister” the family member says them visiting them is proof they love them.

*plus Sam who is supposedly crazy about her (also isn’t crazy about marry). Aka El isn’t crazy about Mike- but Will assumes she (along with mike). Cough El saying “what makes you crazy?” in s3.

-While in “hackers’ the kid (with a single mom) who is into computers, and upset they were forced to moved to a new city -is asked by the mom “Do you like girls?” . And he angrily denies and says he’s ‘not gay’ (which could followthrough with what happened in s3- Will not opening up to her about romance, like him telling Joyce he’d never fall in love. so he may lie to her if asked that question? Unlike Jon?

So it’s possible Will confides in Jonathan (and or Joyce) & maybe Mike to his mom/nancy?/a friend (maybe Robin or Max) (hard to say). My top guesses are Will &Jon. And Mike with Robin (and maybe his mom or sister a bit after Robin?)

Mike visiting the Byers

In ‘Tootsie’, michael (disguised as a woman named dorothy...long story XD) meets up with the person he really loves and gives them a present. The 2 low-key have like a psuedo-gay courting for most of the movie (before they get together). In ‘paddington 2′, the main character even gets multiple jobs to save up for a birthday present for a loved one (another contrast to mileven- who Mike,despite being rich couldn’t even spend $3.50 on. They did that alot -show contrasts with both ships .So s4 would be no different.And It’s Will’s b-day in s4 after all so Mike getting Will a present makes the most sense.

*last pics from ‘scarface’- I have no idea what he’d get Will for his b-day but if it’s engraved with “crazy together” I will lose my mind. Also the parent glaring during this scene-makes me suspect Lonnie . I do suspect Lonnie will sabotage byler-but it may end up being a s5 plotpoint instead of s4? (I guess in s4 it could be El-since el has been known to get very jealous in the past (like with max).

- In ‘waynes’ world’ the ex gf refused to accept the breakup initially (despite it being months ago). And she didn’t understand how breakups worked . Which given El’s lack of socialization - I get her confusion on the concept. Like how in s3 Max had to correct El that Mike was her “ex boyfriend”. In the film, she even tried giving him a present for their ‘anniversary’ (hopefully El doesn’t try to do something like that out of jealousy of the prior gift giving -cause Wayne just says the gift shows how little she knows him).

*You have to admit this scenario of Mike having to explain breakups isn’t that far-fetched.

(even when broken up with wayne- she wore a necklace with his name on it. ) Which reminds me of How El had a bunch of Mike related stuff in her room-including things that said “mike” on them.

in waynes’ world: The ex gf would follow her ex and still refer to him as her bf and be a 3rd wheel and interrupt every attempt for wayne to romantically confess to his new love interest (like in ‘dumb and dumber’/’high fidelity ‘).A similar scenario also happens in ‘tootsie’- Michael (as dorothy) almost confesses (on a swing set) but is interrupted by another person interested in him (Mike). Personally, I assume El would just do this unintentionally- assuming Mike wants to be with her and being a bit pushy but probably being oblivious of byler.

Not to mention the Duffers are petty AF and probably got annoyed with all the jokes that Will was a 3rd wheel to mileven- when literally Will wasn’t even around the 2 interacting alone . A 3rd wheel- has a group of 3 consisting of a couple and a third superfluous person. Which never really happened? Plus,we saw the ‘burns’ they did of mileven over the past 3 seasons- it’ll probably get worse.

And again we already know El had no qualms spying on her ex (mileven even dances to ‘every breath you take’ a song about a stalking ex gf).And El also watched the ‘all my children’ ep with Erica & mike roy. Which in the show after their breakup - had 1 of them refuse to accept the other didn’t love them and want to get back together- and stalk them/ sabotage their exe’s romantic pursuits. Only to eventually accept reality and move on. Although, I think this is mostly un-intentional on El’s part.

In ‘clueless’ she flirted with a gay guy who she thought was straight/in love with her and kept trying to make a move-much to his discomfort . And in ‘birdcage’ the ex gf would hit on her gay ex bf- and his male partner catches the 2 and misinterprets it as not one sided ). That scenario happens in quite a few movies. I could see Will (before byler happens/mike tells el the truth ) misinterpreting and assuming mike and El are still romantically connected or will get back together .

New Swings scene (almost confession)/possible swing-flashback

Ok back to (tootsie) .In the film,Michael’s love interest was raised by an older sibling- and he even tries to confess to her when they’re on a bench swing together . Not even the only movie with a gay gal character + gal bestfriend swinging on a bench together (’silkwood’ ). In ‘enter the void’ there was also a flashback of a little kid asking the other “do you love me?”/ and him saying “a lot” .

* it’s like a subversion of what happened in s3 at the hospital. Also like the Wayne’s world scene of the ex gf interrupting...

But i don’t think El will be the only one trying to get mileven back together. But Will as well.In ‘Emma’ & ‘clueless ‘ :character A assumes her guy friend is into their mutual friend and tries to get them together (despite him being into character A only). I could see Will misinterpreting mileven and trying to be a good friend and get them back together (despite his own feelings). In ‘emma’ and ‘clueless’ (before they fight) there’s is a party/dance (it’s in a lot of movies).It’s possible mike, Will, and El go somewhere to dance - a lot of films have the 2 people in love-dance with others -but stare at eachother the entire time.In ‘clueless’ 2 gay guys and cher (who is flirting with one of the gay guys) all dance together. In karate kid, referenced by Max to El. Has a guy kiss his ex without her permission (on the dance floor)- and the karate kid sees the girl he likes being kissed by her ex and misinterprets the scenario (assuming they’re back together). I suppose the fact they changed the s2 script where Will was watching Mike dance with El may come back up in a later season? Could also be a callback to when Mike looked mopey at Will dancing with a girl (after encouraging him to dance with her). Will could do the same (as mike in s2). Or they both stare at eachother while dancing with other people. or it’s just a concept they scrapped- it’s hard to say.

*movie list (truman show,16 candles,step up 2,karate kid, backdraft 2 & stormship troopers)

Confession & fall out

In ‘emma’ & ‘clueless’: character A (after the dance party) goes with the guy home and he tries kissing her . She dodges it confused saying he’s mistaking her for her friend! And he explains he was never romantically interested in her friend. In ‘emma’ he even bought her a super expensive gift before hand and she still assumed he was into her friend not her. And he even specifies in Emma- the reason he came to visit her house was for her (not her friend). A similar scenario happens in ‘weird science’ and he says she just thought of the gal he used to be infatuated with as a “sister” (and we all know the sibling parallels in mileven). And in ‘little women’- the artist gal dodges a kiss and says to her love interest “I won’t be courted with someone in love with my sister.” And he explains exasperated he doesn’t love her sister- despite constantly trying to be with her sister previously.

In ‘tootsie’, what caused Mike (dressed as Dorothy) to try and kiss her was- the other gal saying she feel like she wants something she can’t have and because of that -their friendship makes her feel lonely (it’s very queer coded dialogue). She dodged mike/dorothy’s kiss but then says she has the same (gay) “impulses” as Dorothy but that she’s not mentally sound enough to be in a relationship. A thought that may cross Will’s mind.

But, before they can talk about the almost kiss-her dad calls via phone and interrupts. (They eventually do get together though). But she tells Mike/Dorothy she ‘can’t love’ her,before this.

*may not come across in photos-but she’s crying when sayin this.

Also, a fight about “what they are-friends/or romantic” before a phone call interrupts ( happens in ‘it’s a wonderful life’ and ‘the fisher king’ too.) Those pairings were also both endgame. In wonderful life the artist gal yells why he even came to visit her . And he implies she knows why (aka his romantic feelings) .There’s a similar convo in ‘fisher king’ (asking why they’re there) + 1 of them saying it’s “bullshit” and “stupid” to pretend they’re ‘just friends’. (We all know the context of the phrases “bullshit’ and “stupid” by now). Even Han implies Leia wants him to stay cause he has feelings for him-which she denies . Thus, irritating him.

*(I’ve already mentioned before how in s1 byler was paralleled to a gay Han/leia while mileven was directly paralleled to luke/leia-mentioned this in the ‘mileven burn’ hyperlink).

All 3 movies have eventual couples arguing cause 1 character (mike) is saying he’s done pretending to be just friends and he came to visit (Will) for that reason. And he knows Will returns those romantic feelings- but Will refuses to stop the charade and admit his true feelings.

In ‘good Will hunting” a similar event happens. Will (yes that’s his name) is poor and has severe trust /psych issues caused by his ab*sive dad. And he has “abandonment issues” so sabotages his romantic relationships before they can even begin. When the brunette admits her feelings for him he dismisses it as a phase/confusion on her part. She in response says she knows he finds the idea she doesn’t love him ‘scary’ (and she’s scared too but at least she’s trying and being honest about her feelings). She also says she wants to “help him” with his issues -but this just angers him more. Cause he doesn’t liked being pitied/treated like he’s broken . She says she wants to help because she loves him- not pity. But he doesn’t believe her romantic confession. And every time she says she loves him he yells “Don’t BULLSHIT ME”! So when she yells “say you don’t love me?” He says he doesn’t love her- which the audience knows is a lie. But she’s left a sobbing mess alone on the floor.

Which yikes- I feel like even if you don’t understand the obvious reasons Mike used El as a beard + lied saying he loved her. You’ll feel bad at the possibility of how badly it blows up in his face. Will not believing his confession/thinking Mike loves El or scared he’ll change his mind -so Will (for that + a myriad of other reasons)just rejects Mike COLD. Similar to clueless & Emma & empire strikes back.

I’m not that surprised since Will claimed he’d never fall in love (so when he does - he may just deny it). Like the therapist said in ‘good will hunting’ he’s afraid it’ll go wrong so never even tries to begin a romance. I hypothesize a lot of stuff happens after this, that makes getting closure on their relationship in s4 difficult.

So essentially to summarize a rough idea of what may happen: mileven stayed broken up. Mike and Will probably exchange letters between seasons. And El and Mike call eachother- but the excess of calls becomes too much. Mike and Will are probably bullied for being perceived as gay- and before meeting up they may or may not confide in someone (about their mutual feelings). Mike visits for Will’s b-day/spring break and gives Will a present. El (because she sees Mike as a source of comfort) tries getting back together with him and becomes pushy and a 3rd wheel. While Will even helps El- thinking he’s being a good friend to Mike (by trying to get them back together). Mike eventually comes clean and come to an understanding and El goes on her plot/character driven arc of trying to find Brenner with Kali. Mike eventually confesses to Will but Will for a myriad of reasons lies about loving Mike- and rejects him. And that’s all the (non supernatural) plot stuff I wan’t to talk about now...

Sorry, if this post was just hard to understand. I wouldn’t call this a ‘theory’ per say ( I usually feel more confident in those). This is more like a rough idea given what we have available to analyze so far.

Personally - I hated the mileven/couple breakup drama in s3. So as long as it doesn’t last long and most breakups like say-lumax and jancy happen early in the season... and don’t drag the actual supernatural plot/character developement . I’ll be fine.

Contrary to popular belief- I’m a byler shipper who’s most excited for the actual plot. I’m a bit more confident in my plot theories than the exact details in this post . But I thought I’d share XD. I’ll eventually do a whole s4/5 theory- post which will focus on other characters/supernatural plot points.(but i may rewatch some movies first) . I’ll probably also do a byler post too with s5 predictions (which connects more heavily to important plot points spanning across s4-5).

Happy belated new year :)

I expect so much hate from this XD

#byler #byeler #mike wheeler #will byers

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