#furudate wrote haikyuu bc they wanted to get someone who read it to start playing volleyball n i'm seeing my brother get excited ab playing
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watching/reading haikyuu for the first time when it felt like it was the only thing that saved me is a little sad as an indication for how i felt during that period of my life but also it's kinda beautiful ??
#showing it to my well-adjusted brother i'm kinda disappointed how he's only like medium-invested in it#i asked him if he had a favourite character and he said he didn't have any š¤§š¤§ and he was very stoic over p much every major emotional part#so far#and it does feel a little different for myself rewatching now tbh ! it feels weird not having an encyclopedic chapter by chapter-#and reference by reference knowledge of it anymore#but to have such a pure story be the one thing that taught me to start taking care of myself still makes me hold it so dear in my heart#as fandom brain parasocial rotted as that sounds hfjsngdjhc#furudate wrote haikyuu bc they wanted to get someone who read it to start playing volleyball n i'm seeing my brother get excited ab playing#in real time from this!!
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hello i am back once again but with this
https://twitter.com/nonlovso/status/1374142549519122436?s=21
(the op elaborates more in the replies + the embedded one on atsumu) in case u canāt see it -> https://twitter.com/nonlovso/status/1374155371145756679?s=21
i love reading these types of tweets, just people talking about the character in canon, analysing what furudate was trying to depict when he wrote these characters. also the phrase āmonsters can only thrive among monstersā ???? fuckjng love that, so much to unpack tbh.
idk i just rlly want to see these characters thru the eyes of the author. itās hard for us readers when 1) we donāt know the thought processes behind the making of each character, and 2) many characters we only see on the volleyball court. but people act differently in different situations. i know itās a pipe dream but i always hope for more canon haikyuu content outside of volleyball, just regular slice of life content, just teens being teens (i know haikyuu-buu exists but itās not confirmed to be canon so š)
- šŖ¢ sorry this become somewhat of a rant. this has been on my mind ever since i started liking suna, i couldnāt find posts / tweets like this for suna so i rlly struggled trying to fully understand him (which irritated me bc it felt like he was a one dimensional character š”)
The amount of nerdy that I am I LOVE shit like this.
Which you know what is interesting is the way each can be laid out for each characters struggle with loneliness and how Sakusaās is clearly the easiest to identify and yet people chastise him almost the most (Have yāall ever met only children? They can be a little weird and Iām married to one ok so I get it) But ironically Bokuto is one I never thought about (though Iāve thought in depth over Akaashiās bc he latches to the 3rd yrs and then gets physically left alone)Ā
Bokutoās loneliness is weird bc of course when Furudate let out who has siblings (which I got way too nerdy about that bc the family dynamics were real obvious after Furudate gave us siblings to characters) Bokuto is the youngest among three and anyone whoās ever had/known three kids is the baby is almost always the golden child in some way. On purpose or not. Like how much older are the sisters? Are they close? Did they baby Bokuto and thatās why heās so focused on the team? (bc he needs someone to not reallyĀ ātake careā of him but at least guide his emotions at least) We see Oikawaās sister is obviously old enough for him to have nephew that old so clearly they werenāt raised too much together (age gap) But Bokuto being the baby among two older siblings (female) in an Asian family really would speak to his need for attention bc heās 1. The baby and 2. The only male child. Not faulting Bokuto at all bc like, he could really be a dick but heās not. Which makes me feel like the sisters are closer in age bc if youāve ever had siblings you know your ego gets to be in check no matter what. Bokutoās loneliness is just something fun to pick apart bc itās not exactly loneliness (or at least I donāt see it that way) like out of all of them heās def seeking validation more than anything it feels like. Anyways- Sorry Iām rambling I like character analysis way too much XD
But god yes the lack of content outside the volleyball realm drives me crazy. Especially post high school in that short 5 year span before MSBY v Schweiden. Which this is my total bias talking but I constantly want to know when and how it happened that Kageyama just, mellowed out. Heās reintroduced not even really with a scowl. Totally unphased by the dumbshit Hoshiumi does, heās surrounded by little kids (which I still wanna know when kids started to like him bc heās the only one seen with a lot of younger fans repeatedly) and he smiles like a lot. Growth from the MSBY team always circles back (for me at least) for the four of them being together and growing like that. But Schweiden doesnāt have that substitute brother feel? I mean I think Kageyama and Ushijima get along real well (simpletons) but what about the other teammates? (Hoshiumi still has feral vibes that never leave I love him for that) But Kageyama was with them graduation on basically so who helped him mellow out? Who had such an impact on him that Kageyama kinda relaxed back into his interested, wide eyed and calm middle schooler self who was just enjoying playing volleyball. Like, Furudate??? You canāt just give me my man vibing being sweet and dealing with Hoshiumiās bullshit and not tell me when it happened?? Was it personal life growth?? Was it the team?? FuruDATE GIVE ME ANSWERS
No one ever really points this out (or at least I havenāt seen it) but the two panels we get of Suna timeskip heās smiling. I donāt know why but I just feel like that speaks to his character a lot. That heās actually really a happy individual he just hated high school. He was in the lowest academic class, he loved volleyball but hated any variation of the twins and Kita and he was good at what he did but never really shined over having to deal with everything else. Which I mean heās def not a spotlight kinda guy but even when theyāre watching past games for prep Ukai has to point out Suna is the main point getted for Inarizaki (bc everyone is focused on the twins) I dont know...I just kinda find Suna interesting bc heās seen as almost mean but timeskip Suna is smiling, chatty with Komori and good enough to be in the top leagues. He always struck me as one of those kids who hated school but was incredibly smart. Which is why I probably liked canon Suna a lot quicker than whatever the fuck the fandom depicts him as. (not to mention the being the older sibling so anyone whoās older knows you tend to be the emotionally calm one to not stir the pot and keep things calm at home which would really explain Sunaās deadpan look a lot just from personal experience as the eldest child)
See now you made me go off, this was supposed to be short but I passed out last night before I could do anything XD Now everyone knows Im a nerd :l
#yes do i think about this shit daily#yes do i invest too much time in the shit furudate DIDNT give us bc i want more#shhh im a nerd sometimes ok its fine#cant just enjoy a fucking volleyball manga why do i have to think so hard about this#šŖ¢#anon#babe ilysm#three.talks#hq!!#haikyuu!!#bokuto#kageyama tobio#suna rintarou
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Haikyuu Nationals theories (after chapter 247)
Ā Okay so what is happening in the manga kind of fits my theories about whatās gonna happen during nationals, thatās why Iām making this post (and bc iām HELLA EXCITED AAAAH) (sorry for my bad English)
My two starting assumptions (under the cut) :Ā
Ā·Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Karasuno wonāt win nationals (a bit too unrealistic, and if Furudate intends to continue Haikyuu after the Spring tournament, they can win another time. Also the main goal in this manga, for the plot, the readers (not really the team and the characters that much but it can be discussed), seems to be the battle of the trash heap, not winning the championship)
Ā·Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā They will sooner or later face both Nekoma and Fukurodani (for plot purpose, kind of fan service too, and I mean the battle of the trash heap has to happen like I said, and it will happen with the current 3rd years,ā¦)
And for Fukurodani :
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā itās all about Hinata and Bokutoās friendship
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā it doesnāt make any sense to introduce us Fukurodani to do nothing with them, I do believe that, since we know them, Fukurodani has an huge role to play in the plot. You can tell me that Karasuno can play against them the next year, but without Bokuto and ALMOST ALL THE TEAM it doesnāt make any sense. But Iāll talk about it later.
PART ONE - Rounds 2 and 3 (Inarizaki and Nekoma)
Now you know where I started, so here are my theories :
My former idea before chapter 247 was that Karasuno will play 1 or 2 matches before Nekoma, they will win the battle of the trash heap, and then (maybe not right after, I donāt know), theyāll play against Fukurodani.
Why Nekoma first ? Because if Furudate indeed plans to make it happen, Karasuno have to win all their matches before, and itās something the reader can feel I think. We can guess that they will win all their matches before Nekoma. So if Furudate put Fukurodani before Nekoma, all of us are sure that Karasuno will win, in order to get to the battle of the TH. And thatās gonna make Karasuno vs Fukurodani a bad game. Besides, the aim of Karasuno vs Fukurodani will be reaching that battle, not defeating Fukurodani (I donāt know if you get the point ahah)ā¦
But Haikyuu 247 happened and yeah, itās Nekoma first !
Thatās why I think choosing Inarizaki as a second match for Karasuno is a good idea. Here are 2 reasons :
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Karasuno defeating Inarizaki is quite unrealistic, if Iām not wrong they are the second favorite, or at least one of the strongest team. The way Furudate introduce them was a bit scary.
Can you feel the powaa ?
(shitty quality Iām sorry)Ā
Even the rest of the team, and they arenāt even overshadowed by Miya ! I mean they seem to be well-known for their respective skills !
So Top 4 (?) ace, best setter, best serveā¦ Holy shit what a team ! You can see that Furudate really wanted to make sure his readers understand that Karasuno will have some difficulties, that maybe they canāt even make it to the next game.
According to me, this is the only way Furudate can make us doubt, not be sure that they will face Nekoma. You see Karasunoās first match ? We all knew that theyād win arenāt we ? Not anymore. We can kind of lose that feeling of āThey wonāt lose until Nekomaā with that surprising insane team.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Before that chapter, I theorized that, if Karasuno donāt win nationals (my first point at the beginning), AT LEAST they have to win against a strong team. A super strong one. (First I thought about Itachiyama, but now we know that it canāt happen before the very last game, the final).Ā
But why ? If Karasuno loses, they NEED to achieve something big, they have to be remembered by everyone, they have to make a name, a solid reputation : Ā āhey, thatās Karasuno, the team that xxxā. And how ? By defeating one of the strongest teams. As simple as that ! Karasuno loses the tournament but is now a big team. Thatās the point.
So, if we use the hypothesis implying that Karasuno beats Nekoma (so they can reach Fukurodani), they will get to the 4th round.
I have seriously no idea about where to put Fukurodani in this. For the moment, itās the only team (with Hoshiumiās team Kamomedai) which we donāt know where they are placed in the brackets.
A quick talk about Hoshiumiās team : if Furudate intends to continue Haikyuu after the Spring tournament, I think he presented us a future opponent. Hoshiumi is the current little giant, and I think Hinata cannot take his place at the moment. Hoshiumi is a second year, thatās why, the following year will be his last one and Ā 1 : He will graduated and ālet his nameā to someone else, Hinata, and/or 2 : Hinataās current level is not good enough according to me. He already shines, he has been noticed, but heās not the only one.Ā
Furthermore, in chapter 245 you can see Karasuno watching Kamomedai, and at any moment they talk about them as an upcoming opponent, but it isnāt very important and meaningful I think.
I take back the hypothesis where Karasuno loses nationals. If it appears to be true, the only teams, for me, Ā which can defeat them (not according to their power but to the plot in general) are Fukurodani, Itachiyama and Kamomedai.
For Kamomedai, I still believe, like I said, that they wonāt play against them, but who knows ? They can be the second strong opponent after Inarizaki. But I donāt want to believe that Karasuno will face all the team we know one after anotherā¦
If itās Itachiyama, it will be the final. End of the story.Ā
About Fukurodani : I think they are the most likely to beat Karasuno but Iāll talk about it later.
PART TWO - ROUND 4 AND MORE
Now Iāll quote what can happen, if Karasuno beats both Inarizaki and Nekoma :
A. They reach the final VS Itachiyama. At that point I donāt know what can happen. Itās already not realistic for Karasuno to go that far (you can say itās a shonen manga and stuff but Haikyuu is FUCKING REALISTIC), so I donāt know.Ā But if it happens, I donāt know which team is the most likely to win. In that case, the semi final will probably be against Fukurodani (seriously, I canāt believe they wonāt play against each other)
B. They reaches the final but itās NOT Itachiyama. Here we donāt know where Fukurodani and Kamomedai are placed in the brakets, so for me itās one of them, but Iād bet on Fukurodani (I write about it below). In that case, they have to beat Kamomedai/Fukurodani first, then play against Fukurodani/Kamomedai. But either way I donāt think a Karasuno vs Kamomedai final game is a good choice for a fucking final. We barely know/fear/talk about them. Besides, I donāt think it will be another team because it has to be a team we know. It canāt be that interesting otherwise (But Furudate has some great writting skills so who knows).
C. Karasuno loses before the final. I think it will be Fukurodani because they have to play that match, and also for the reason Iāll write below. Nuet there is plenty of teams soā¦
In the case where Fukurodani is in Itachiyamaās side of the brackets, they need to beat them in order to get to play against Karasuno. The fact that Karasuno will already play against a strong team, Inarizaki, makes be believe that we donāt need Itachiyama as Karasunoās opponents anymore. And we need Karasuno vs Fukurodani. Also the only players we know are Sakusa and Komori their libero, and theyāre both second years, so if Haikyuu continues after this, they might be their main opponent the year following, maybe ?
PART THREE - Ā Karasunoās last game
Which means the final, or the match they might lose.
In both cases, I think their opponent will be a team we already know, and quite well, thatās why Iāll first talk about all the main teams in Haikyuu as a comparison.
The very first big team Karasuno has to defeat (official games) was Seijoh. Furudate took his time to introduce them with a practice match, but moreover, Oikawa arrived at the end of the game (to make his character very special, to show his strengthā¦). Seijoh ended up to be the team that had defeated Karasuno (the first time), then the second time, they had managed to defeat them.
Nekoma was introduced with a practice match as well. No more to say because, since the beginning, we know why Nekoma exists as an important opponent for Karasuno. Fated Rivals.Ā
Shiratorizawa : Here itās becoming very interesting. Weāve known them for quite a long time before the encounter, (Iām a bit lazy to re-read everything, sorry about that). We knew that they beat Seijoh, that theyāre the strongest team in Miyagi. But most importantly Hinata and Kageyama met Ushijima, and that was a super powerful meeting. With a few words exchanged, Shiratorizawa has become a huge rival for both of them.
If a team can defeat Karasuno, or playing the final against them (winning or losing, but it will be Karasunoās last game), it has to be a team that deserved such an introduction.
Hinataās meeting with Hoshiumi was indeed powerful (not like Ushijima of course).Ā
Plus, Kageyama knows him as well (well he knows everyone since his training camp, what a popular kid).Ā
Kamomedai can be that team. But I wrote some ideas above about why I donāt think Karasuno would play against them. Or maybe after Nekoma and, why not, theyād win, but it would be weird (see what I wrote above, Hinata canāt be the little giant if Haikyuu continues after this tournament).
The other teams, Itachiyama included, hasnāt been introduced that way. Thatās why I donāt think it will be one of them.
The only team left is Fukurodani.
So Iāll probably get carried away but here are some reasons why I think Fukurodani might win nationals, or at least defeat Karasuno (and I think the team that might beat them is the one thatās gonna win at the end, for satisfying reasons, especially if itās Fukurodani)
For me, if Karasuno loses, like I said, it has to be against a team that we know (thatās why I didnāt put Kiryuuās team in this), and Furudate has to make the readers not too sad/angry/disappointed about their loss, so it has to be not only a team we know but a team WE LOVE. And, in this situation, if Nekoma is defeated, itās Fukurodani. Except if Furudate makes us love another team as much as the other ones (he did it with Shiratorizawa, Iām still amazed how I managed to adore them in only one game). But for the plot, I think Fukurodani is the best choice. Furthermore, I support the theory implying Fukurodani winning nationals, many write good stuff about it so go read it if you hadnāt yet ! I still have some ideas about it :
When I discovered that team, I was wondering āwhat is the purpose of Fukurodani ?ā According to me, it wasnāt just a good practice for Karasuno. Quickly Iāve started to think that Fukurodani has been introduced as the future winner of the Spring High. Or at least the team that might stop Karasuno. Either way, why are they there?
All the other members such as Konoha, Komi, and basically the whole team are getting more and more development. Itās not āThat funny/strong team with Bokuto and Akaashi as nice charactersā, itās a whole team now. Donāt tell me all the third years have been introduced and developed only for nothing ! They will play against Karasuno sooner or later.
Bokuto and Akaashi themselves have gotten more development, especially after chapter 244. I think, with that chapter, Furudate wanted to introduce us something new about them. We discovered that not only Bokutoās moods are something serious (not only to make us laugh I mean, itās very part of him, there might be something wrong), but also how much Akaashi cares (so their relationship got developed as well). I think Bokuto has some serious injuries inside him, and we will get a flashback hopefully. But I donāt really know about this, itās more an argument on why Karasuno WILL play them. For me chapter 244 was an introduction. Bokuto is one of the most complex characters in the manga, so like I said, Furudate has probably a lot to say about him, and moreover, that fact means that Fukurodani isnāt just a random team. But it can mean as well that Karasuno wonāt face them, but we will follow Fukurodani during a longer match (but itās a bit weird).
Karasuno has become stronger by improving and adding new weapons, and most of them come from the training camp. They tried all of those weapons during their last set against Fukurodani, which mean Fukurodani is the only team which knows those weapons. Besides there are different moments where you can see Fukurodaniās reactions, quite interesting :
I meanā¦ they can practice right ? This scene happened months beforeā¦
Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Iām not really talking about how much Fukurodani knows them (not that much), but I think that they might reproduce what Karasuno did ! The quick, the liberoās tossā¦ Karasuno might have shown them some ideas ! Or at least, Fukurodani knows what they can do (not everything of course, plus Karasuno has evolved after this to)
(Thatās why if Karasuno vs Fukurodani happens, itās gonna be a fucking long game, maybe like Shiratorizawaās, and probably Nekoma).
Also the fact that we still donāt know where Fukurodani is in the brackets. Foreshadowing, why ? We can be 90% sure there will be a Karasuno vs Fukurodani match, and if Fukurodani is on the same part than Itachiyama, we can deduce that the final will be against Fukurodani, Iām sure of it. Also Fukurodani might be playing their second or third game against Itachiyama, like Karasuno plays Inarizaki. Everyone gets its own strong opponent ! In addition, we know that Nekoma is playing āHayarukawa techā, just for information.
Anyway, not knowing about Fukurodani future matches means being unsure of whatever can happen to them, and no one can know the entire progress of the tournament.
Bokuto wants to be the best. Nekoma and Karasuno want the battle of the trash heap to happen, they want to face each other, while Fukurodani is justā¦ there. Okay but the only reason we are following them that much now is for the readers. Neither Nekoma nor Karasuno have the huge desire to beat them. Weāre following Nekoma mostly because we need to know if theyāll make it until the battle of the trash heap. So what is the purpose of Fukurodani in the plot ?
Bokuto is upset heās not in the top 3. He wants more recognition. He wants to be praised. Fukurodaniās only goal is to go the furthest in this competition (or maybe we donāt know their real motivation yet). So why not making them win ?
Fukurodani has already been to this championship. Karasuno (and Nekoma) are new to this event. Fukurodani can pretend to be the winner. I donāt know how many years they went to nationals, but I bet each year their goal is further in the competition. Thatās why they can be willing to go further than Karasuno, in my opinion.
Furudate shows us since the beginning of the tournament that THIS WHOLE THING IS HARD.
Look all the teams eliminated ! Itās obvious, teams will lose, but it hit me so hard, the way Furudate threw this at us !
āHow difficult it is to survive throught day 2ā, said in general, not regarding to their next opponent.
Karasuno wonāt win it, and maybe Furudate is telling us ā Look ! Karasuno wonāt make it but itās okay ! What theyāve achieved is awesome ! This is hard so this is normal !ā
I think Fukurodani is skilled enough to go far in the competition. All the players are really good. So much potential for a great game against Karasuno) as well.
Bokuto motivates everyone, characters (His team but also his opponents), but also readers (most of us I guess). Thatās why theyād make good winners. No one will be disappointed. And we all want to see Bokuto (and Akaashi) exploding of happinessĀ Bokuto also has a lot of support as a player, admiration, and he seems to be an inspiration for everyone.
The whole āIf there is another team that manages to beat Itachiyamaā thing, but Iām not that convinced. Except that that way of thinking is the same than Bokuto, so maybe is it a sign ? Who knows ?
Itās the same situation! Ā (and reactions ahah)
I LOVE FUKURODANI A LOT IS THAT A GOOD REASON
No seriously I wonder how popular they are in Japan, it can be an influence for Furudate. The ābeloved trioā is Karasuno, Nekoma and Fukurodani (amongst the Sprin High tournament), and Fukurodani is the strongest of them, and a popular opponent can be a good opportunity for Furudate to make another team win without disappointing all his fans !
I donāt know how to conclude because itās a lot of different ideas but itās my theories ! Donāt forget it is only assumptions, ideas, and not assertions. Thanks for reading me ! (and sorry again for my English!)
(Or maybe Karasuno will win the tournament and all of this is useless, but if they do, I think there is no reason for Haikyuu to continue after it. And itās totally unrealistic.)
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