#fuck you 4chan users
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thegetdownrebooter · 2 years ago
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lgbtlunaverse · 2 months ago
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The thing we have to remember about MXTX calling wangxian "ideal characters" in a moral sense in an interview is that her previous work was scum villain. And in comparison... *looks at Bingqiu*
Yeah, wangxian have never done anything wrong in their life.
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achashaaaa · 2 months ago
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people are sleeping on HAL 9000 x AM though. One is a disgusting rotting earth. Other is a moon as free as the space itself! A moon that orbits the earth and makes life a little more bearable. Ain't that poetic.
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uraandri · 1 year ago
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1. who the fuck uses ao3?
2. WHO THE FUCK is giving them money?
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bisexualseraphim · 1 year ago
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OP you’re a fucking idiot lmao. Elon Musk is openly racist, antisemitic, misogynistic, classist, ableist, homophobic and yes, transphobic, and is an all-round human turd and has been his entire so-called ‘career.’ People on the left, including but not limited to trans people, have been begging everyone to stop praising him as some sort of super genius for YEARS and that is absolutely still the case. I question what kind of echo chamber you are living in if you think trans people, allies, or people generally on the left are just letting his far-right bullshit slide. Thousands upon thousands of people have deleted Twitter due to him being CEO, or they’ve been banned before they could for speaking out against him (or for daring to type the word ‘cis.’) Leftists are calling for people to delete their Twitter accounts and praying for the site’s total deletion.
There are ample reasons for anyone to despise Musk, such as being a decent person who is against any kind of bigotry — because he really does come for everyone, and it truly is not an exaggeration when it is said that he promotes Nazi rhetoric — and if you haven’t seen people coming for him in droves, you either never use the internet (doubtful), or you are solely surrounding yourself with certain kinds of people.
And I can guess exactly what types of opinions said people might have, TERF. I have to say, being transphobic by pretending to even remotely care about the damage both JKR and Musk have done to the trans community is a new low I’ve not seen before. I’ve seen the misogyny accusations plenty of times, though, and let me reassure you — the poor, defenceless, billionaire woman whose shitty book series is still raking in the millions as she sits angrily tweeting nonstop about 0.5% of the population and going on podcasts about how she’s being ‘silenced’ is doing perfectly fine. She doesn’t need your help. Her Neo-Nazi besties who call for men to go into women’s toilets with guns and call LGBT people (yes, including the LGB) paedophiles and groomers have her back, don’t you worry.
And no, I don’t touch that awful website myself. I had an account for about a month a few years ago and deleted it after coming across too many of your ilk. Haven’t gone near it since and never intend to. Although, I have to ask, if you believe Musk is worse for the trans community than JKR and everyone should delete Twitter, then JKR herself must be included there, right? Surely you wouldn’t be mad if she deleted her Twitter account as well and never tweeted about trans people again, yes?
You burned your Harry Potter books, boycotted Hogwarts Legacy, threatened JK with violence and even sent her child porn, cut ties with long term friends that still liked the HP saga.
Elon Musk has been doing far worse for trans people than a couple JK tweets ever did. He is actually campaigning for anti-trans bills, posted a long ass anti-LGBT video, talks extensively about how he hates pronouns and the woke crowd and cis is now considered a slur on twitter. So delete your twitter accounts. Not just log off, delete it, refuse to consume twitter content, don’t reblog screenshots coming from it, don’t repost tweets on other platforms. Fully boycott twitter. Advocate for people to delete their twitter accounts. Cut ties with twitter users, specially if they payed for twitter blue. Send Elon death threats if it’s up your alley. Making memes about Elon being a pathetic divorced middle aged billionaire won’t do, specially if you post it on twitter.
Boycott twitter as if it were a Harry Potter book. Otherwise, I’ll have to come to the conclusion that it wasn’t about defending trans people and not giving transphobes your money. I’ll start to think that perhaps something else was fueling this double standard and you won’t like where this is going…
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laypis · 3 months ago
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the likes of turkey tom and definitely bored oranges need to go the way of the dodo on youtube I think
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notgreedo318 · 6 months ago
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You look like a deodorant eater (affectionately)
????????how is that affectionate?
i don't eat deodorant.. eww.
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tpwrtrmnky · 5 months ago
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By far the most effective psyop that the 4chan/adjacent websites' misery stew inflicts on its users is the idea that they're just hated for having problems, rather than the reality which is that they are having those problems exploited to radicalize them into insular hate communities that want them to alienate anyone not in the community, and that they are being manipulated into alienating everyone who could support them.
So much of the criticism I've gotten for the orangecel desaturatoid comic on twitter boils down to "you simply do not understand that my way of coping with dysphoria by going to the dysphoria worsening website and stewing in misery is necessary, because your dysphoria is simply lesser. Stop invalidating my dysphoria, which is more real than yours, and demands that I do this."
This illustrates a fundamental part of how these communities operate: Anyone who criticizes the way they operate must simply be the Other that they build up in their minds. It's all reflexive ways to dismiss outsiders. Chad/passoids/normies simply do not understand. Nobody in the out-group has any familiarity with how it feels, nobody has ever gotten out, nobody is telling you that this is bad for you from experience.
It's absolutely baffling watching these barely even adults say that I, someone who transitioned in my mid-20s, can't possibly understand what dysphoria is like. I was so uncomfortable being perceived at all as a teenager that I simply did not go outside. I lived in MMOs. Until I learned that voice training was possible I was so hopeless about even trying transition that I didn't dare to consider the option.
I would stay up hours past midnight in meaningless fucking arguments on 4chan that served no other purpose than to make me miserable. I fucking know how you feel because I was you, and I am telling you, get the fuck out of there.
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jaunes-hoodie · 9 months ago
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…This is literally an in-universe propaganda film
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viv-hollande · 1 year ago
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Ok, so this is a post that I should have made sooner. I've been somewhat out of the loop with regards to current events and the state of discourse on this website courtesy of a pretty serious depressive episode from which I am only just now recovering. As I have emerged from this state I have been pushed towards a conclusion about this website and the state of discussion around the ongoing Israel-Gaza War that I had thus far avoided due in part to my barely possessing the energy to keep myself alive and due in part to my denial that the conclusion could be true. But that denial can no longer hold.
It has become openly apparent that the pro-Palestinian camp on this website has become popularly infused with a degree of blatant, aggressive antisemitism that I, in my naivety thought impossible in the days just after October 7. I am trying to avoid turning this into a mea culpa because that would be unproductive and feel self-serving, but I do feel an obligation to admit that I disregarded prescient warnings from Jewish users whose warnings I dismissed as over-blowing a problem that I felt was real, but more limited in scope than they made out.
I'm neither an idiot nor am I ignorant. I am well aware of the long history of antisemitism in leftist politics and in the Palestinian Liberation movement. Back at the beginning of this crisis I was prepared to see the occasional instance of antisemites using the inevitable, overwhelming Israeli retaliation as an excuse to air their hateful politics. I was prepared to see both the well-meaning but ignorant and the malicious alike sharing tweets from antisemitic pro-Palestine accounts, spreading and normalizing low-grade, subtle antisemitism. Make no mistake, this should have been condemned. Antisemitism, like all bigotries, has no 'safe' level. There is no background level of antisemitism that society should just accept as normal. But I was more focused on the inevitable cacophony of suffering that Israel would almost certainly begin meting out, and so I failed to act.
The fatal blow to my denial was the increasing prevalence of the use of quotation marks around the word "Israel" and "Israeli". The first few times I saw this, I didn't really understand what it meant. Still laboring under the belief that antisemitism was a manageable problem on the left, I was certain that most of the users on this site, well-intentioned, goodhearted, critically thinking people that they were, would have recognized and called out even disguised antisemitism before it took over a good 20-40% of all posts about the conflict. I was a damn naive fool. For those, like past me, who have not cottoned on to the meaning of the quotation marks, they have become a way to express the denial of the legitimacy or even existence of, individually or all together, the State of Israel, the Israeli people, or the right of either Jews or Israelis to identify as Israelis.
CONGRATULATIONS TUMBLR! You have successfully revived from depths of 4chan neo-Nazi boards the (((fucking echoes))).
Are you serious? Are you fuckers for real? This, right here, encapsulates the pitch-black absurdity of this whole situation and why I remained in denial for so long. Never, in a million years, would I imagine that the proudly pro-Social Justice, anti-fascist, 100% Certified SAFE-SPACE(tm) website would end up using the same language as the goddamn Nazis on 4chan. I thought this website was smarter than that. But noooo, it turns out that I was a damn naive fool.
This was where the post was originally going to end. I say my piece, hope to change a few minds, and commit myself to actually fighting antisemitism instead of sitting back and dismissing the problem. But I figure, while I'm here and while I still have the driving forces of anger and guilt pushing me along, I may as well put pen to paper and spew forth my other thoughts on the ongoing crisis. I am thus compiling a much longer post detailing my thoughts on some aspects of the current situation. [EDITED ~1:25 AM GMT, 5 Dec 2023: add link to finished post] That post will definitely be long, probably be angry, possibly wrong on some aspect of fact, and will absolutely be pretentious, preachy, self-righteous and hubristic to a positively Hellenistic degree. Brief, non-comprehensive summary so you can decide whether or not get mad at me ahead of time;
Israel does apartheid, or near enough for government work.
Israel is definitely conducting a campaign of forced displacement, possibly amounting to ethnic cleansing, but I remain unconvinced of the claim of genocide.
Hamas may or may not be a anti-colonialist revolutionary group, but it definitely is an antisemitic terrorist organization with genocidal aspirations and actively supporting them is morally indefensible. Yes, this includes the Al-Qassam Brigades.
Anti-colonial and other revolutionary movements do in fact have fundamental moral obligations and suffering oppression does not give you carte blanche to do terrorism, even when an oppressor attempts to render peaceful opposition impossible. There is a middle ground between peaceful marching and 850+ dead civilians; aim for that.
The left is just as prone to unhinged conspiracism as the right.
Verify your sources, for fuck's sake.
Use nuance. It won't kill you.
There's more, but it's a little difficult to summarize an unfinished post. If you want to argue with any of these points, go ahead, just keep in mind that a longer, more comprehensive post is in the works that might have the answer to your argument/complaint/insult/intellectual disagreement. If that post isn't up by midnight GMT on Friday, assume I forgot about it and argue away. In conclusion, antisemitism is bad, apartheid is also bad, Tumblr is a hellsite (derogatory), "From the river to the sea" is, in fact, antisemitic, seriously, stop saying it, take Jews seriously when they warn you about antisemitism instead of writing them off like a damn naive fool, and last but not least, free Palestine.
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harmslength · 1 year ago
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(Mostly) NSFW Headcanons Part III
Disclaimer: Slight spoilers so be warned. Just covering movies I have seen or characters I know enough about to judge. This is just for funsies, just my own personal opinions, so it’s totally okay if you disagree. Fully aware how much of an ass I’m being. Horny hater at my core.
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Disco Pigs (2001) | Enda Walsh, Kirsten Sheridan - Darren
• starting out strong with THE freak of freaks
• not to state the obvious but.. possessive, dominating, jealous asf but also loyal asf
• Incel ass behavior, would definitely have a Reddit account, frequent user of 4chan.
• would jerk off to hentai titties if he could
• would probably ask you to do the ahegao face during sex…
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On the Edge (2001) | John Carney - Jonathan Breech
• as much as he would hate to admit it.. hopeless romantic. Super devoted but would have an annoying tendency to flirt with other girls to see if you’d get jealous.
• honestly.. great first bf to have. Would absolutely destroy your perception of what love should be.. but hey isn’t that first loves?
• heavy breathing and moaning in your ear. Loves to give hickeys.
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Sunburn (1999) | Nelson Hume - Davin McDerby
• oh davin… dead beat baby daddy fr.. loved his character arc regardless tho
• ngl probably absolute shit in bed. He screams premature ejaculator..
• has a porn addiction, but would hide it from you
• would pick up edging and would talk about your sex life very openly with “the boys”
• loves sending nudes and nut vids if he had the chance
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Intermission (2003) | John Crowley - John
• he has no qualms about saying it: you’re a whore 😌
• probably feels the need to be in charge and take control but really.. you’d be the one calling the shots mostly
• definitely the type to make stupid jokes during sex
• whiny, would definitely triple text if you didn’t respond fast enough
• still a cutie ofc
• jealousy is his middle name
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Girl with the Pearl Earring (2003) | Peter Webber - Pieter
• breeding kink but not in the fun way. Breeding kink in the way where he would wanna fuck like rabbits and procreate like rabbits.
• would want you to have like 6 of his kids is what I’m saying
• acts like he’s touch starved half the time, really handsy, likes to tease and leave kisses all over you
• knows how to handle his meat
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At Deaths Door (1999) | Conor Morrissey - Young Reaper
• this one is just for shits and giggles
• it’s giving virgin, inexperienced but passionate
• shy asf, again you’d probably have to make the first move
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qqueenofhades · 9 months ago
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I frankly sometimes feel like social media has ultimately given a lot of people the illusion of power, while also causing them to become corrupted in a similar way to traditional forms of power, only without any actual power that goes with it. The similarities in their behavior to the latter is disturbing as hell, ESPECIALLY given the horrid behavior of online types the past few months.
I really can't emphasize enough how much of a constructed and artificial environment social media is, especially these days, and especially the Social Media Platform Formerly Known as Twitter, which is still the main avenue by which a lot of people attempt to "do" social justice. Once upon a time, Twitter was a moderately beneficial public communication service because everyone and God was on it and you could therefore get communiques directly from the source, there was a blue-check verification service that actually helped you understand who was real and who was not, and while there were serious and ongoing flaws such as there is when useful public discourse is sacrificed on the Great Altar of Profit, there was at least some attempt to monitor or ban Nazis, white supremacists, bad actors, and eventually Trump himself. All of that changed and/or was directly destroyed when Apartheid Clyde took over and turned it into a revenue-generating service for Russian propaganda, alt-right cranks, bots, and the rest of the Elon Fanclub willing to pay $8 for a meaningless blue checkmark, while trashing the site's guardrails and any other useful features. It basically exists for Elon to fanboy Putin, Trump, white supremacy, his 4chan trolls, and anything else that makes his money (while Mr. Free Speech Absolutist arbitrarily bans anyone who hurts his man-child fee-fees). This is not an unbiased, neutral, or constructive environment to start with. You don't have any certainty about who you're interacting with or who is amplifying your messages, and only a hardcore-radicalized (of whatever persuasion) base of human users remain, while a lot of casual users have left.
As such, if you're basing anything (hypothesis, claim, source, evidence, opinion) on "what everyone on Twitter thinks," that is fatally flawed data to start with. Even at the peak of its popularity, something like 24% of all American adults regularly used Twitter. That still means 76% of the country who doesn't (and the number is larger now as Chucklefuck McGee has continued driving it into the ground). If you're forming your ideas or looking for "what America thinks" just by quoting or relying on the tweets of people who already agree with you, you've done basically nothing and you certainly haven't proved it, you've stunted your own critical thinking skills, and you are selecting from a data source that is already fatally poisoned and limited in any number of ways. Adding to the echo chamber of similar opinions on Twitter is not going to actually influence public policy or make lasting change. Yes, the interns and/or public relations staff of the public figures still on there will probably check the feed every so often and make note of things that come up, but couching it as mindless vitriolic abuse and/or demonstrably nonsensical things is not going to get back to their boss. It will just be ignored and/or given less weight in the limited space available for things that are deemed important enough to actually follow up on/make policy around.
Also, a lot of people saw Trump tweeting insane things at 3am for four years, and somehow decided that was actually how US/American presidential and governmental policy was made, rather than that he was a fucking narcissistic-personality-disorder psychopathic lunatic. But uh, and it should go without saying, it didn't work. Just because Trump posted something absolutely unhinged and announced it was now policy, that doesn't mean it was. Half the time he didn't even do so much as issue an executive order, those can be and regularly are challenged in courts, and so forth, because despite all its flaws, America is not an absolute monarchy where the king can rule by fiat and have it totally done, no questions, the end. That's also why Trump's second term would be even more dangerous than his first. In his first, he was flailing around and yelling on Twitter and not really paying attention to anything. In his second, the administration will be staffed top to bottom with dedicated fascists like the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 people, who have spent the last four years brooding on revenge and drawing up detailed plans to actually co-opt and suborn all the levers, checks, balances, controls, and functions of government directly to Trump's personal will (and/or the outrageously evil people pulling strings behind the scenes, because Trump is now basically a gibbering orange vegetable and the media is still far too beholden to the Biden Old!!! narrative to accurately report this).
In short, another Trump term (God fucking forbid) would be run by the kind of methodical and careful evildoers who know that policy isn't made by tweet, and would act accordingly. That would be much, much harder to remove, counteract, or fix, it would almost certainly lead to the end of American democracy at least for most of our lifetimes, and the repercussions of that would be absolutely terrible. But because we still have people who act like Trump is somehow a preferable option, who think that it's bad that Biden is trying to work through established and long-term channels to make sustainable policy and not just get short-term chuckles from an internet dopamine approval rush, that is the risk we are running from now until November 2024. After that, either way, we'll know for sure: we'll finally have a measure of safety, or we will be comprehensively fucked for generations. We all have the power to influence which of those outcomes come to pass. I suggest we use it.
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velvetvexations · 25 days ago
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Remembering when the OG r/traaa was a thing and how it was such a transradfem breeding ground. I just have to get this off my chest because I'm remembering a lot of crap from it because I used to be active on it as it was the only popular "trans meme" subreddit... There was a point that there was constant posts and rule changes telling people to stop contacting transmasc users with "god I wish I could have your boobs/pussy" DMs.
I remember when there was constant "you are now a catgirl and nothing you can do will stop it" posts that didn't have the "mtf" flair on them and therefore a lot of the time, transmascs would come across it and feel fucking horrid dysphoria from it. There was also a lot of general "good girl" and "here are pretty clothes for you" posts and shit that were labeled with the custom "gender non-specific" flair as well.
I remember when there was a disturbing fucking amount of "haha did anyone ELSE have a 4chan nazi phase?" from white transfems and POC trans people got VERY uncomfortable to the point new rules had to be added and mod posts were made to remind people "hey what the flying fuck makes you think this is even remotely okay".
Reddit is a cesspit in general but god... I just hate that for years, that was the only trans meme subreddit and I spent so much time on it because I had nothing else since r/FTM isn't really for memes or silly posts. The r/traaa2 isn't as bad but it's still got some issues like mainly being filled with MTF geared posts and again people tagging stuff that could trigger transmascs dysphoria as "gender non-specific", but, yeah. I just had to get this off my chest because I remind of it.
I didn't even mention egg_IRL because I fucking hate egg memes and shit, because they are 99% directed at transfems and also I just hate calling people eggs in general because it acts like intersex, nonbinary, and GNC people don't exist...
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Love you anon.
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princelylove · 4 months ago
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Dearest Prince,
Your La Squadra post is one of my favorites and it got me curious about some of the guys.
Ghiaccio is a name we barely see on your blog and I would love to know more about your interpretation of him. Whatever it is you got; from the regular facts to the complete degeneracy, I am interested in knowing.
Thank you for your time and interest, as well as your patience, I've been lacking in the "sending asks" department.
Heart heart xoxo
Oh, Ciocio. My favorite 4chan user. Sure.
Ghiaccio is one of those characters that, to me, are so established in my head that I feel as if I'm doing nothing by elaborating. It's very clear cut. Incel that actually goes to the gym and has a job, so he's automatically better than other forum users, yet he's not because he's always on there and is the first to make fun of 'the losers.'
Ghiaccio has a certain sense of superiority because he's not in that sort of Hazamada-ish porn addict incel category- yeah, he's a virgin in his middle-to-late twenties, and has basically no eye are el friends, but he's not a fucking degenerate. He's better. Yeah, he doesn't inherently see women as objects- it's just, uh, factual that they're only after... certain things.
Ghiaccio has a very complex relationship with women. They trigger his abandonment issues worse than any man could, even if all they're doing is acting indifferently. No matter what you do, you can't win. Play into it without trying? Tease. Don't play into it without trying? Prude. Bitch. Play into it on purpose? Whore. Don't play into it on purpose? You're playing hard to get. It's not like Ghiaccio actively thinks of women as lesser, or just less intelligent- obviously he doesn't think like that, intelligence has nothing to do with sex, jackass- it's just that those are the first words that pop into his head when he's angry and it seems like the one he has eyes for is leaving.
Always leaving. It's always something. He did something wrong again, and your stupid woman brain thought he'd just get it and would understand entirely when you didn't tell him what it was, and- He'll calm down eventually.
His relationship issues with women could stem from a lot of things. It could be his mother, the fact that he never had a long term relationship with a girl his age, the fact that he mainly consumes media (porn, or fetish content.) that objectifies them- any number of things could be it. His sexism actually isn't in the classic 'women are in their prime when they're younger' way, it's more of a 'women prefer older men because older men are real men' way. Which can get confusing at times, because he's the type to project heavily onto the women in his life, and he's not very good at explaining himself.
It's easier to ramble about a set topic with clear facts. It's objectively correct that Venesia- yeah, Venesia, say it in their fuckin' dialect you God damn [REDACTED. Reason for redaction: contains slur.]- is the actual name. Feelings aren't something you can fact check on a different tab.
It affects him more when a woman doesn't show interest in him. When a guy does it, it's like yeah, of course, fuckin' low value male would be jealous of him. Ghiaccio struggles with his self worth and meeting his own expectations. It's a lot of internalized loathing that presents itself as "Of course you're using me for dinner and want me to pay. You're trying to cuck me." Since Ghiaccio never really learned proper coping mechanisms, he usually just beats the shit out of whatever piece of furniture is closest to him. Goodbye, end table. It was nice knowing you.
Ghiaccio knows nothing of gentle love, but he knows he has to act right or his darling is going to freak out on him and give him a massive headache. He thinks he's above the guys that hit their bitch their partner, but he always manages to bruise them in some way, shape, or form. He has a bit of a problem with grabbing his darling too tightly and not easing up.
It's both a possessive thing and a complete accident. He just doesn't know what to do when you panic in front of him- holding you down works, usually? Yeah? Going for your throat should be fine, you can feel like you're secure in one spot, why the fuck are you hitting him now???? He's not going to seriously hit you, stop freaking out, holy shit. He's not a bad man that's planning on raping you or some shit, jesus christ, can you just calm down and think rationally?
When you actually calm down, likely after he gets pissed and fucks off for a while, he'll come back to check on you. He likes you. You should eat. He cut up some shit things for you. He just doesn't like when you're sobbing and assuming shit and acting hysterical.
He's really trying. He's really, really trying. It's hard to calm down and be the man his darling needs, but you keep saying such moronic shit- it's fine. It's fine. You're just a little stupid, he can work with that, if you start to listen to him.
Ghiaccio's good for hugs and that's about it. He won't let anything harm you. It's stupid to think that he'd just allow some other guy to touch you or speak to you enough to harm you. Come on, stop crying, he's right here, he can give you what you need to survive and be happy, he can be good to you if you don't piss him off intentionally. He can, and will. He's just frustrated right now.
The next day, when the bruises form. . . it's hard to hide how pleased he is. God, that's hot. Should give you more. What's a better way to get frustration out of his system?
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conceptofjoy · 8 months ago
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strider your radiocuntivity is melting the slaynobel reactor please stop!! youre pussifying the land for generations to come!!
ranked popular social medias mediocre to worst.
reddit: the ads are annoying as fuck but the sbahj community aight. users are kind of awkward interacting with each other though, app full of [BEEEEEEEP]. its the most functional out of the others. ok taking that back, its the most functional DEPENDING on who the moderators are. that being said, r/sbahj is a little too functional and im thinking of hiring someone to grab a cheese grater shred that shit up.
twitter (not X): the popularity was the best thing about it. easy way to interact with fans, couldnt send death threats though. plus the character limit was a drag, i couldnt get a single thought out without having to make a thread. the other option is to take a screenshot of your notes app and fuck no was i not doing that. on one hand you look lame as fuck, the other you look dorky as fuck. you cant win.
4chan: they're all freaks since its all anonymous but they're funny ones. sometimes you cant find good shit though and its all just thread after thread of a guy posting an img of a horse cock not getting it wasnt funny the first time. this is what X wanted to be with the "free speech" musk said he has. if i cant tell someone their mom sucks me good and hard through my jorts then whats the POINT.
instagram: basic, does its job. used to be catered towards hippies and it still is, but through the influx of immigration from X its semi-tolerable. instagram REELS though? i should release a sbahj movie like that.
tiktok: people my age dont use it unless youre tucker carlson licking the boots of young adult conservative college men. its just fucking sad.
X: after that dick measuring contest with musk i had a few years ago, its unsurprising im still banned. so what i fucked your girlfriend get over it dude.
tumblr: [deleted due to over abundance of homophobic slur usage]
honorable mention:
jeremy renner app: jeremy renner app.
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unsoundedcomic · 5 months ago
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Man so there were no smokes eels in the prefucked khert timeline? How did that fuck with the timeline where there was no visible pain ghosts versus now with the eels and how humans processed that info?
Ashley pissing you off: There have always been smoke eels. There was no "prefucked khert."
The khert was changed, and the reality that runs on it was/is consequently changed. Someone on 4chan described it beautifully as the OS being updated and the system rebooted. From our perspective as outside users, something changed. But the system is just running its code. Any previous code is gone; rewritten; unsaved.
Don't come at me with backups and timestamps, mofos, I will cut you. It's still a great analogy.
You might find a glitch somewhere in the world where the khert didn't update things - farcyte is famously glitchy, and First Materials often block the khert - but on the whole, this is how it's always been. Oh, those dopey smoke eels, isn't this a strange and beautiful world we live in.
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