#eva unit 09

[ruru-san-01]

宝石のエヴァ①

(宝石の国×エヴァ)

[kingofjuglans]

I’ve been doing this thing on the bird website where i post a mecha 50x50 pixel art every day until the next Super Robot Wars game’s announcement as both a fun way to pass the time until we get it, and as an excuse to practice my pixel art skills. However, it once again seems like that place might be dying for real, so i’m gonna start posting those here on Tumblr as well just in case... so let’s catch up by posting all the ones so far!

Day 1 - Eva Unit-03

Day 2 - Texas Mack

Day 3 - Gekiganger

Day 4 - Dom

Day 5 - GM Sniper II

Day 6 - Mack Knife

Day 7 - God Mazinger

Day 8 - Ginguiser

Day 9 - Deckerd

Day 10 - Build Strike Gundam

Day 11 - Schezarade

[angel-blood-art]

this was more like a doodle that got out of hand but i’m really fond of this and wanna do more like it

[hikikomoriheadphonegirl]

[duhragonball]

Neon Genesis Evangelion 09

Okay, okay! I'll tell you all about it. You might want to sit down first. This will take a few minutes...

Last time, Asuka arrived in Japan to serve as the latest Eva pilot. She's already the most popular girl in school, and for some reason Suzuharu and Big Rigg Mahoney have started taking photos of her and selling them to her admirers. Well, the reason is money, obviously. That, and just being little shits.

Asuka seems to revel in the attention, but only because she feels entitled to it. She finds the other pilot, Rei, and introduces herself. Rei isn't particularly impressed.

Asuka wants to be friends, and Rei asks why, then says she'll do it if ordered by their superiors at NERV. Cold.

Oh, hey, remember Kaji? That asshole from the previous episode? The one who ditched the others and delivered that mysterious package to Gendo Ikari? Well, he's staying at the base for some reason. He seems to want to re-start his romance with Misato, but that doesn't stop him from just groping Ritsuko like they've been married for a year. Fuck Kaji, is what I'm trying to say.

Moving on, the real story of this episode is another Angel attack. This is the seventh one overall, and the fifth we've seen since the series started. Like the fifth Angel, this one is headed straight for the NERV base, but they're still reeling from that battle, so they can't afford to let it get that close. Instead, Misato deploys Units 01 and 02 to the shoreline, where they'll intercept the Angel as it makes landfall. If they can double-team the thing, they should be able to overwhelm it before it gets a chance to do anything.

That's the plan, anyway, but Asuka has her own plan, since she wants to make a big debut in Unit 02. She jumps into the surf and cuts the angel in half. Good job, except...

It splits into two monsters and continues attacking. Whoops!

We skip ahead to some time after the battle, but the photos tell the story. NERV was completely humiliated, because they had to call the UN for support. The UN dropped an "N2 mine" on the Angel to halt its advance. This is the same weapon used on the Third Angel from Episode 1. I should note that it didn't work at all in Episode 1, so I don't understand why it helps now. Each new Angel seems to be more powerful than the last, and this one defeated two Evas, which is unprecedented.

The UN's attack managed to burn off 28% of its mass, which temporarily incapacitated it, but it's only a matter of time before it regenerates and picks up where it left off. Okay, I guess that's fair, since the Third Angel needed to regenerate after getting N2'ed, but it didn't take very long. This one needs about a week.

Being, you know, literal children, Asuka and Shinji fail to learn anything from this debacle. Asuka defied orders and went into business for herself, but Shinji just stood there and watched like a dope. Maybe if he had taken some initiative and supported her play, they might have been able to make something work, but he always does as he's told. And this is a problem, because the two of them will have to fight the Angel all over again when it recovers, so they need to be on the same page.

I don't know why Kaji's even in this briefing. He observes that the UN strike bought them time to regroup, and "you can't ask for more than that," which is the stupidest thing anyone says in this conference, which includes bickering from literal children. Yes, Kaji, we can ask for more than this. The whole point of this meeting is to ask the Eva pilots to get their shit together and win the battle in a single engagement.

Another entry in my Kaji Sucks file: I hate this shot of him talking to Asuka. I hate that stupid look on his stupid face, I hate how Asuka has a crush on his useless ass. I hate his clip-on tie, which might be an animation error but it looks stupid either way. In this moment I'm rooting for the Angel to destroy the NERV base just to ensure he dies along with everyone else.

Kaji does have a suggestion to get the kids ready for the rematch, but he can't just say it in the meeting, he has to write it down on a computer file and give it to Ritsuko to give it to Misato, because fuck this guy.

Later, Shinji comes home to Misato's apartment and finds Asuka has moved in. She claims that she's taking Shinji's place, although she'd rather live with Kaji. I'm sure he'd love that too. Kaji is the worst.

Asuka gripes about how small the place is and wonders why all the doors in Japan have no locks, and then Misato shows up to explain that the Japanese way is to "consider the priorities and needs of others before one's own." Right, no other culture ever thought of that before Japan came along, Misato. And what does that have to do with the doors not having locks? If that made any sense, then why does the front door have a lock?

So what is the point of all this? Well, Misato explains that this was Kaji's idea: Shinji and Asuka will spend the next six days living together and doing everything in unison, in order to practice synchronizing their attacks when they face the Angel in six days. They both hate this idea, but there's no time for anything else.

This does not go well, mostly because Asuka is too proud to go along with it. This exercise with the Twister/DDR game is a failure, so Misato asks Rei to give it a try and she syncs up perfectly with Shinji's movements. So why not just have Rei and Shinji tag up for the battle? I mean, they worked well together a while back? It's a proven formula. Rei's Eva doesn't have weapons, but I'm pretty sure they can reconfigure 02 for Rei quickly enough.

So it's the Fusion Reborn plot, but with Asuka in the Vegeta role. She can either fight alongside Shinji, or she can ride the pine. This makes her upset, and her dumb friend tells Shinji to go talk to her because "he made her cry", but by the time he catches up with her she's already worked this out. She'll do the training.

And there's a training montage, and they succeed! I don't quite understand how this tranlates to Eva piloting, but at least they can stand to work together, which has to be an improvement.

Maybe it works a little too well. They sleep in separate rooms, of course, but one night Asuka gets up to use the toilet, then plops down in the wrong futon. There's a tense moment where Shinji's worried that his cassette player will wake her up, but it doesn't. She just lays there and murmurs the word "mama". He almost kisses her, but then he thinks better of it and sleeps on the floor.

Lips in anime are the worst. They always draw these characters with teeny-tiny mouths, which isn't a huge problem until they try to do a scene like this, where Shinji stares at a closeup of Asuka's lips, which look ridiculous because it's so badly misproportioned. He's trying to move in closer to kiss her except their heads are so weird that the pose ends up looking awkward.

I guess it doesn't matter, since he bails out at the last second, bitterly muttering that Asuka is "just a child". I'm not sure how to interpret that, but whatever.

Speaking of awkward kissing, Kaji makes out with Misato in the elevator. When they get to her floor, she steps out and tells him this is a mistake, and he replies with some bullshit about her words saying "no", but her lips saying "yes". Fuck this guy.

Later, she confides in Ritsuko that their relationship, which ended eight years ago, was "the biggest blemish" on her life. I'm curious to see why that would be, but that probably won't get paid off for a while.

Anyway, the big fight happens, and Shinji and Asuka execute the plan perfectly. This time they let the Angel come to them, but they cut their power cables and fight with the one minute of battery life they have. They cut the thing in half like before, then whale on the two halves before finally doing this double divekick move to destroy the Angel's core to end the battle.

The resulting explosion does leave the Evas in an undignified pose, but a win is a win.

This dude is embarrassed, but I didn't see him do a damn thing the whole time. He doesn't even have a name. I mean, they put his bio in the DVD extra features, but why should I care what they call him if they never say his name in the show? He usually just stands behind Gendo and tries to look important. Well fuck him. I'm calling him Clownshoes from now on.

And that's it. I guess this episode was good enough, but I'm not sure about the dynamic Asuka adds to the cast. She's at least active, which is more than I can say for Rei or Shinji, but a lot of time is spent just getting Asuka to do simple teamwork like "cooperating" or "facing reality". Even the NERV staff are getting frustrated about having to work with children, even though the Evangelion program seems to depend upon it for some reason.

In the end, that's just what the show is about, so I can't complain that it nails the depiction of putting children behind the wheel of a super-weapon. It's either a power fantasy or a nightmare, depending on your point of view, and this show tackles that pretty damn well.

[luminiera-merge]

The Music of Evangelion 3.33

HIIII they got wiped recently but i have playlists of the soundtracks from each eva rebuild movie in the order they're played in the movie. i did the 3.33 one from memory and while there IS a site dedicated to "where does this song play in the show/film?" (tunefind) it's not great and it's owned by songtradr so i'm making one of my own.

for now, here is each song featured in Evangelion: 3.33 You Can (Not) Redo, in the order they appear in and where they play! the first three are there to show the structure. they all have links to the song too!

Bataille d'Espace [Movie Version]: EVA-02' retrieves EVA-01 in space.

God's Message [Movie Version]: Asuka is blindsided by the Mark.04 and holds on for dear life.

Quiproquo 131 (2 pianos) [Movie Version]: Shinji is wheeled to the bridge of the Wunder.

Serenity Amongst the Turmoil [Movie Version]: Misato plans her move against the Nemesis series.

The Ultimate Soldier [Movie Version]: EVA-02 is deployed.

Dark Defender [Movie Version]: The Wunder powers up.

The Anthem [Movie Version]: The Wunder reaches critical power and destroys the Nemesis series.

Quelconque 103 (piano) [Movie Version]: Ritsuko and Sakura brief Shinji.

Quiproquo 83 (2 pianos) [Movie Version]: Asuka tells Shinji it's been 14 years.

Out of the Dark [Movie Version]: The Mark.09 and Rei escape with Shinji.

3EM11_QuatreMains_E_03_mx3*: Shinji sees Kaworu playing piano, but quickly moves on.

L'Apôtre de la Lune (2 pianos) [Movie Version]: Shinji explores the ruins of NERV HQ.

Thème Q (guitare) [Movie Version]: Shinji talks with Rei-Q in her "room".

3EM14_Piano_Adlib_44*: Kaworu and Shinji meet at the piano.

3EM15_pre*: Kaworu convinces Shinji to play piano with him.

3EM15_QuatreMains_Fun_07_edit_B*: Shinji and Kaworu's first duet.

Quatre Mains (à quatre mains) [Movie Version]: Shinji's second duet with Kaworu.

Qui veut faire l'ange fait la bête (piano solo) [Movie Version]: Shinji stargazes with Kaworu.

Quiproquo 140 (piano) [Movie Version]: Shinji expresses worry about the fate of New Tokyo-3.

Trust [Movie Version]: Kaworu brings Shinji outside to tell him the truth.

Long Slow Pain [Movie Version]: Fuyutsuki tells Shinji about NERV.

Quelconque 56 avec A4 (2 pianos plus) [Movie Version]: Shinji struggles to process everything.

3EM21A_QuatreMains_G*: Kaworu's piano flourish before the mission begins.

L'Apôtre de la Lune (orchestre cordes) [Movie Version]: Shinji refuses to pilot Unit-13, but is convinced by Kaworu.

Return to Ash [Movie Version]: Unit-13 and the Mark.09 descend into Central Dogma.

It will mean Victory [Movie Version]: Asuka and Mari vs Shinji, Kaworu and Rei-Q.

Betrayal [Movie Version]: Shinji locks Kaworu out and pulls out the spears.

Scarred and Battled [Movie Version]: Rei-Q frees the 12th Angel.

From Beethoven 9: Unit-13 begins Fourth Impact.

The Wrath of God in All its Fury: Fourth Impact; EVA-02' engages the Mark.09.

Kindred Spirits (Thème Q) [Movie Version]: Kaworu tells Shinji not to be sad.

Tout est Perplexe (Thème Q) [Movie Version]: Kaworu dies.

God's Gift [Movie Version]: Fourth Impact ends and Mari rescues Shinji from Unit-13.

Sakura Nagashi: Credits theme.

Peaceful Times (choeur) [Movie Version]: Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0 teaser with the "Unit 08+02".

*Not available in the widely available commercial soundtrack release.

[best-evangelion-girl]

masterpost of all polls and other posts so far. (this will be updated when newer polls are made)

why are the things called that (a post badly explaining the naming conventions of the different forms of media)

polls

round 1:

1 misato's car vs Kaji's watermelons

2 Eva 08 vs Eva Imaginary

3 9th angel vs Magi-3 Casper

4 Zuriel vs Magi-2 Balthasar

5 Gaghiel vs Magi-1 Melchior

6 Mark.09 vs Leliel

7 Armisael vs berserk Unit 01 (rebuilds)

8 5th Angel vs Unit 00 (NGE)

9 Eva 44A vs Pen Pen

10 12th angel vs 4th angel

11 Eva 03 (NTE) vs 3rd angel

12 Sahaquiel vs Eva 44B

13 Unit 00 (NTE) vs Unit 01 (NGE)

14 Unit 05 vs Adam (NGE)

15 Shamshel vs 6th angel

16 Mark.06 vs berserk Unit 01 (NGE)

17 Mark.04A vs Unit 02 Berserk (EoE)

18 Unit 03 (NGE) vs Bardiel

19 Eva 04 (NTE) vs Failed Evangelion Prototypes

20 AAA Wunder vs 9th Angel

21 Unit 01 (NTE) vs Unit 02 (NGE)

22 Sandalphon vs Mass Production Evas

23 Adams (NTE) vs Seventh Angel

24 Mark.04B vs Kaworu Nagisa

25 11th angel vs Ramiel

26 Arael vs Israfel

27 Mark.04C vs Matarael

28 10th angel vs beast mode eva 02

29 Eva 04 (NGE) vs Sachiel

30 Eva 02 (NTE) vs Berserk Unit 00 (NGE)

31 Eva 13 vs Ireul

32 Eva 4444C vs Lilith

round 2:

1 Misato's car vs Eva Imaginary

2 Magi-3 Casper vs Magi-2 Balthasar

3 Magi-1 Melchior vs Leliel

4 Armisael vs Eva Unit 00 (NGE)

5 Pen Pen vs Twelfth Angel

6 Eva Unit 03 (NTE) vs Sahaquiel

7 Eva Unit 01 (NGE) vs Adam (NGE)

8 Sixth Angel vs Berserk Unit 01 (NGE)

(I fucked up. berserk Unit 02 vs bardiel and failed prototypes vs Wunder should be 9 and 10 but I accidentally skipped them. they're gonna be 15 and 16 this round. thanks for understanding)

9 Eva Unit 02 vs Mass Production Evas

10 Seventh Angel vs Kaworu Nagisa

11 Ramiel vs Arael

12 Matarael vs Eva Unit 02 Beast Mode

13 Sachiel vs Unit 00 Berserk (NGE)

14 Eva 13 vs Lilith

15 Berserk Unit 02 (EoE) vs Bardiel

16 Failed Evangelion Prototypes vs AAA Wunder

(I want the seeding to work correctly, so the winner of poll 15 and the winner of poll 16 will still compete against each other in what will be poll 5 in round 3. and then the winner of poll 5 round 3 will complete against the winner of poll 6 round 3 in poll 3 round 4. I hope that makes sense. basically, the seeding will still be correct. it's just round 2 that slightly off in numbering because I can't edit the polls. just pretend that poll 15 and 16 are actually 9 and 10, and everything else has been moved back by two polls.)

round 3:

1 Misato's Car vs Magi-3 Casper

2 Leliel vs Eva Unit 00 (NGE)

3 Pen Pen vs Sahaquiel

4 Eva Unit 01 vs Berserk Unit 01 (both NGE)

5 Berserk Unit 02 (EoE) vs Failed Evangelion Prototypes

6 Eva Unit 02 (NGE) vs Kaworu Nagisa

7 Ramiel vs Eva Unit 02 Beast Mode (NTE)

8 Sachiel vs Lilith

round 4:

1 Misato's Car vs Leliel

2 Pen Pen vs Berserk Unit 01

3 Berserk Unit 02 vs Kaworu Nagisa

4 Ramiel vs Lilith

round 5 semifinals:

1 Misato's Car vs Pen Pen

2 Berserk Unit 02 vs Ramiel

Final round!:

1 Misato's Car vs Ramiel

[bec-son]

Experimental unit 09, or X9 for short. first of their class and type, specifically designed for the pilot in mind (ass is so fat that they had to come up with a way for the motion of their fat ass didnt rock the entire eva, so just had ass balanced by taur body and ass)

[realita-lampung]

Polsek Kotabumi Kota Ringkus Satu dari Dua Pelaku Curat

LAMPUNG UTARA - Satu dari dua orang pelaku pencurian dengan pemberatan (Curat) pada Sabtu 1 April 2023 lalu berhasil diringkus aparat Polsek Kotabumi Kota bersama Tekab 308 Presisi Polres Lampung Utara. Salah satu pelaku pencurian dengan pemberatan (Curat) yang ditangkap itu bernisial OA (24) warga Desa Srijaya, Kecamatan Sungkai Jaya, Kabupaten Lampung Utara dia ditangkap dirumahnya, Minggu (9/4/2023) sekira pukul 15.00 WIB. Penangkapan terhadap terduga AO, dipimpin langsung Kapolsek Ipda Sulyadi SH dan menyita barang bukti berupa 1 (satu) unit Tv merk Sharp 32 inc, 1 tangki semprot merk Plasindo SO 16, 1 tabung Gas 3 kg, 1 unit kompor gas merk Rinai dan sebuah tombak Bugis panjang lebih kurang 30 cm milik korban Eva Puspita warga Kelurahan Kotabumi Udik. Hal tersebut disampaikan Kapolsek Ipda Sulyadi SH mewakili Kapolres Lampung Utara AKBP Kurniawan Ismail SH. SIK. MIK pada Minggu (9/4/2023). Lebih lanjut dikatakan olehnya, kejadian Curat terjadi pada hari Sabtu 1 April 2023 sekira jam 12.00 WIB, korban meninggalkan rumah dalam keadaan pintu terkunci dengan tujuan menginap dirumah orang tuanya. Namun ketika korban kembali pulang kerumah melihat barang-barang miliknya berupa 1 (satu) Unit TV merk Sharp 32 inch , 1 (satu) buah tabung gas 3 kg, 1(satu) buah kompor merk Rinai, 1( satu) bilah senjata tajam jenis Tombak Bugis dengan panjang lk 30 cm dan 1 ( satu) buah Kalung Emas seberat 10 Gram, sudah raib di gondol pencuri. Sehingga atas kejadian tersebut korban Eva mengalami kerugian ditaksir Rp.20.juta ( Dua puluh Juta Rupiah)dan melapor ke Polsek Kotabumi Kota. "ujar Ipda Sulyadi. Selanjutnya melalui serangkaian penyelidikan, pada hari Minggu tanggal 09 April 2023 pukul 16.00 WIB, kita bersama Tekab 308 Presisi Polres Lampung Utara mendapatkan informasi bahwa barang bukti milik korban yang hilang, ada dirumah terduga pelaku (RN). Kita langsung mendatangi TKP namum pelaku tidak berada di tempat, kita hanya menemukan barang bukti 1 ( satu) buah tabung gas 3 kg dan 1 ( satu) buah kompor gas merk rinai didalam kamar. Dari hasil pendalaman penyelidikan diketahui bahwa pelaku saat beraksi bersama rekannya inisial OA, tanpa membuang waktu kita langsung melakukan penggeledahan dan penangkapan pelaku OA di rumahnya. Barang bukti yang ditemukan berupa 1( satu) bilah senjata tajam jenis Tombak Bugis dengan panjang lk 30 cm dengan gagang kayu / bersarung kayu yang dibungkus dengan menggunakan Lakban warna Hitam. Keterangan terduga (OA) bahwa barang bukti yang lain semua berada dirumah terduga RN. Tim kembali menggeledah rumah pelaku RN yang didalam kamarnya didapati barang bukti lainnya 1( satu) unit Tv merk Sharp 32 inch, dan Tangki semprot, ungkap Ipda Sulyadi. Saat ini terduga pelaku OA berikut barang bukti telah kita amankan di Mapolsek Kotabumi Kota untuk dilakukan pemeriksaan lebih lanjut, terhadap pelaku RN masih dalam penyelidikan, "tandasnya (*) Read the full article

[radstarsaur]

Rebuild of Evangelion sure added a lot of new Eva units, didn't it?

[ruru-san-01]

今更ハロウィン🎃

[a-hedgehog-s-dilemma]

[fostersffff]

My favorite part of that BBC tweet identifying a Gundam as a Transformer has been seeing the Japanese posting in response:

ID: Three screenshots of three different tweets with pictures.

1. A tweet by @Daitotetsugen (in all caps), originally in Japanese that says:

���このネタは散々見てきたけど、英語版を見た時は爆笑 した” and machine translated to English that says:

“I’ve seen this story a lot, but when I saw the English version I burst into laughter.”

The picture is titled “Giant robot identification chart” and it’s made up of four rows with four pictures each of mechas and robots of different media, almost all labeled incorrectly.

Robots labelled incorrectly as “Transformers”:  Gundam Rx 78-2,  Zeku 2, Mazinger Z, Getter 1, Eva Unit 01,  Yf-19, Valsione R, Astro Delta Megazord, Daileon, Big O   

Robots labelled incorrectly as “Evangelion”:  RahXephon, Yuubrain, Tactical Surface Fighter, Nirvash Type Zero  

Robots labelled incorrectly as “Megazord”: Optimus Prime

Labelled correctly: ATM-09-STTC Scopedog Turbo Custom The Last Red Shoulder Ver.

2. A tweet by @Seskou (in all caps), originally in Japanese that says:

“メガゾード！” and machine translated to English that says:

“Megazord!”  

The picture attached to it is a drawing in color of the Gundam Rx 78-2 transformed as a trailer truck and engaging in a three step transformation sequence into his usual form.

There are two things written in Japanese in the picture:

戦え！超ロボット生命体 - Fight! Super robot lifeform (roughly translated)

エヴァンゲリオン  - The title of Neon Genesis Evangelion

3.  A tweet by @naototsushima, originally in Japanese that says:

“まあまあ間違えはよくある事さ仲良くやろうや ” and machine translated to English that says:

“It’s a common mistake, let’s get along”  

The picture attached to it is a drawing in color of Optimus Prime and the   Gundam Rx 78-2 shaking hands while looking at the viewer. They are seen from hips up and the background is green.

End of ID

(Text ID courtesy of Accessible Maccadam's)

[helbawnd]

[ berserk mode ] aftermath

and yes, i’m aware that rev’s design is based on unit 00 and eva mark 09.

[ritsushinbro]

My Critique of Rebuild of Evangelion's Characterization: I originally wrote this post on the Evageeks forum and decided to post it here. It discusses the relationship between Misato, WILLE and the pilots and whether it is realistic and in-character. Warning this post contains spoilers and is very long. Also has references to self-harm and suicide.

With each revelation that comes out regarding the measures WILLE take against Shinji and their own pilots, it becomes more and more unrealistic for me to the point where it's almost comical. Let's go through some of them here:

They wear the explosive DSS chokers 24/7 which will kill the pilots should they risk awakening an Eva.

They are kept in a single room rigged with explosives.

In Shinji's case, he is (intended to be) put in 24/7 solitary confinement with explosives fitted as well.

Shinji is escorted around the wunder whilst restrained on a stretcher. (NOTE: The only time he isn't, is when Sakura takes him to Ritsuko).

It is confirmed in another thread that Misato gave clear permission to the crew for them to shoot Shinji on sight if they suspect he is attempting to get into an Eva. 

Now let me attempt to deconstruct these measures one-by-one:

It is understandable that Asuka and Mari wear DSS chokers because after all they are pilots and there is a risk of awakening. However in Shinji's case, he is forbidden from piloting and so there is no risk of awakening (remember Ritsuko did not think NERV would come after him, so they had no reason to think he would escape). So why place the DSS choker on him? Well we have already established it is simply because they have a resentment against him; there is no special, pragmatic reason. Is this realistic? Well I would say no for reasons I will explain later but I can certainly understand why others may say it is.

I don't think I will understand why they would keep their two main "soldiers" if you will, in an explosively rigged room. I believe others have  stated that from a tactical point, it's an extremely dumb move on WILLE's part. After all, if Asuka and Mari didn't have plot armor, what's to stop Gendo from tricking WILLE into killing their own pilots with these explosives? How would WILLE stop Gendo then? Will they use Shinji? No, for reasons I will state later. And another thing, we know that their rooms were already fitted with explosives so why on Earth would they add extra after the events of Q (when they stopped 4th impact). What do they hope to achieve with more bombs? Make the pilots more "deader" than they already are? In my opinion, this doesn't even come across as paranoid but just plain childish. Is this measure realistic from a story standpoint? No not in my eyes.

We know they intended to put Shinji in a solitary cell as this is what they do in Shin. If it was solitary confinement on it's own, then I believe it would be a realistic measure that would happen in real life. However I believe the writers did not factor in the effects of solitary confinement (especially one that is rigged to explode) on fully grown men; never mind a 14 year old who's just come out of a 14 year coma. Many people think solitary confinement is a walk in the park so I made another post a while ago highlighting why that's not the case:

"I remember when before Shin came out people here theorized that if Shinji stayed on the Wunder, they would eventually softened to him and let him help in ways that wouldn't have involved piloting. However with these revelations it looks like they intended to keep him in an isolated room far from everyone else that is (presumably) rigged with explosives as well as keeping the choker on his neck. Not even allowed to freely leave his cell without WILLE's permission (it is unlikely they would let him out judging from these measures). 

Even though Asuka and Mari were treated like this as well, at least they had each other and were able to leave as they had responsibilities in piloting. But Shinji was forbidden from piloting and was to be kept by himself except maybe being checked up on by Sakura now and again. So judging from these leaks (we will have to wait to properly see the full context) WILLE intended to lock Shinji in solitary confinement.

I have copied and pasted some of the effects of Solitary Confinement from Wikipedia below:

“Psychiatric: Research indicates that the psychological effects of solitary confinement may encompass "anxiety, depression, anger, cognitive disturbances, perceptual distortions, obsessive thoughts, paranoia, and psychosis." The lack of human contact, and the sensory deprivation that often go with solitary confinement, can have a severe negative impact on a prisoner's mental state that may lead to certain mental illnesses such as depression, permanent or semi-permanent changes to brain physiology, an existential crisis, and death.

Self-harm: According to a March 2014 article in American Journal of Public Health, "Inmates in jails and prisons attempt to harm themselves in many ways, resulting in outcomes ranging from trivial to fatal." Self harm was seven times higher among the inmates where seven percent of the jail population was confined in isolation. Fifty-three percent of all acts of self harm took place in jail. "Self-harm" included, but was not limited to, cutting, banging heads, self-amputations of fingers or testicles. These inmates were in bare cells, and were prone to jumping off their beds head first into the floor or even biting through their veins in their wrists. A main issue within the prison system and solitary confinement is the high number of inmates who turn to self-harm. Many of the inmates look to self-harm as a way to "avoid the rigors of solitary confinement."

Physical: Solitary confinement has been reported to cause hypertension, headaches and migraines, profuse sweating, dizziness, and heart palpitations. Many inmates also experience extreme weight loss due to digestion complications and abdominal pain. Many of these symptoms are due to the intense anxiety and sensory deprivation. Inmates can also experience neck and back pain and muscle stiffness due to long periods of little to no physical activity. These symptoms often worsen with repeated visits to solitary confinement.

Social: The effects of isolation unfortunately do not stop once the inmate has been released. After release from segregated housing, psychological effects have the ability to sabotage a prisoner's potential to successfully return to the community and adjust back to ‘normal’ life. The inmates are often startled easily, and avoid crowds and public places. They seek out confined small spaces because the public areas overwhelm their sensory stimulation.”

And this is just for solitary confinement. There are so many other things going on with and happening (or could happen) to Shinji such as the things below:

Shinji being only 14 years old.

Shinji being abandoned and neglected by his father.

Shinji being coerced/emotionally blackmailed to pilot Unit 1.

Shinji seeing girls he cared for "die".

Shinji being in a coma for 14 years.

Shinji being told he has a bomb on his neck.

Being told it is because he is being punished.

Being told he cannot pilot the eva anymore (he is effectively "useless" now).

Have his former co-pilot and friend try and punch him after he thought she was dead.

[Potentially] being told he started NTI and devastated the world.

[Potentially] being told that the girl he tried to save is "gone" and that she was a clone of his mother.

Being imprisoned in a cell (presumably) surrounded by explosives and not being able to freely leave.

Be completely isolated from everyone except when being checked up by a girl who's father he got killed. (NOTE: Mari might want to see him so Shinji at least has her, maybe). 

Have his mother figure (the woman who made him pilot the eva the most) threaten to detonate the choker around his neck and blow his head off when he tries to leave.

With the above list, is it any wonder his head is so messed up? I understand the purpose of these films is all about growing up and taking responsibility but expecting Shinji to willingly allow himself to be subjected to the treatment WILLE had in store for him is pure, unadulterated masochism. Much of what was is written here can safely be considered cruel, inhumane and arguably, torture. 

There is a massive difference between taking responsibility for one's mistakes and just letting the whole world torture you because you did something bad. My main fear and problem with Q and Thrice is that their main theme, which is accepting responsibility, is equated with accepting unreasonably cruel treatment. And I just think that is an EXTREMELY unhealthy message to send to people especially if they are depressed or live in abusive relationships."

When you take all these into account, does it place into perspective how messed up Shinji would have been had he stayed on the wunder? This is assuming that they thought they would never have a need for him, but as we find out in Shin, they needed Shinji in the end to defeat Gendo. If Shinji never left with Mark 09 and Misato successfully kept him "protective" custody, then one of three things would have happened when WILLE actually needed him to save everyone:

A: He would not have been in the mental state to pilot Unit 1 and Gendo would have completely wrecked him due to shit synch ratios. 

B: He would have told Misato and co. to fuck off and die. We've seen this nihilism before from Shinji (after the 5th angel). His incarceration alongside the humiliation and guilt from wearing the choker will have ratcheted up by a million.

C: He wouldn't have piloted because he would have killed himself. There's only so much a 14 year old can take and when subjected to a fate that causes even hardened criminals to resort to self-harm, genital mutilation and suicide, then what chance does Shinji have? 

Now back to my original point, do I think this measure is realistic? I would like to say yes if it was the solitary on it's own, however when combined with the other things, then I think the chances of Shinji commiting suicide is extremely high to the point where it's not believable for him to continue as an anime protagonist. You have to make sure the protagonist goes through difficulty in order to experience growth and change, however if you make it too harsh (to the point of committing suicide) then it seems less believable that they live to continue the story. On a separate note, many people think that Shinji was immature for leaving with Mark 09 the first chance he got and that this is proof that he is, in Asuka's words, a "brat". But let's be realistic, if this story is about Shinji's growth and maturation, then how exactly would WILLE's treatment of him be conducive to that? The truth is WILLE's sheer hostility towards him would have completely stunted any emotional growth and maturation in Shinji and it would have destroyed the point of the film. Also no-one can argue that WILLE would have eventually "come round" or "softened-up" towards Shinji because even after 14 years they still don't trust their own pilots. So yeah, Shinji most likely would have been stuck in solitary with a bomb around his neck until he either killed himself or the war ended (but even this doesn't guarantee his freedom).

Regarding the stretcher business. I don't understand why you have to restrain Shinji on a stretcher when the kid has already surrendered himself and has come voluntarily. Maybe WILLE are just full of bondage fetishists; it would certainly explain the chokers as well. 

If the DSS chokers and the explosive rooms weren't enough, Misato actually gave orders to the crew to shoot Shinji if they thought he was trying to pilot again. At this point, I just think this is just overkill. I mean the kid has a bomb on his neck that prevents him from awakening an Eva, you intended to keep him locked up even though he can't really leave the wunder except with outside help and now you intend to shoot him if you think he'll get into an Eva. The problem with this, is that piloting an Eva requires all the bridge-bunnies to sortie the damn thing. Shinji cannot enter Unit 1 by himself, especially since the thing is being used as an engine so why do they assume that Shinji is capable of being Sam Fisher and sneaking into Unit 1? We see that Sakura and Midori are actually willing to shoot Shinji in 3.0+1.0 and do so when he merely suggests that he pilot Unit 1. But seriously what harm would Shinji have done in Unit 1 considering the fact that Gendo was already going to start another impact anyway? Why actively try and kill (or injure in Sakura's case) the only guy that can save your ass? One cannot argue that they were just being "desperate or panicking" because in Midori's case, she actually takes the time to confirm her orders from Misato. This shows that at least, she was still of lucid mind. This particular altercation just beggars belief in my mind and the fact that Misato actually gave those orders on top of all the other measures is absolutely extraordinary. So as you can imagine, I do not think this was realistically executed.

However, I can already hear some detractors say: "So what? Misato hesitated to detonate the DSS choker and also took a bullet for Shinji. She redeemed herself from putting the DSS choker on him and the kill-order for if they thought he would try and get into an Eva." 

And to those people I say….not really. There is an idiom attributed to Benjamin Franklin and it goes like this: "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." How does this apply to Misato and Shinji's relationship? Well Misato wouldn't have had to hesitate to pull the trigger if she didn't put it on him in the first place. Misato wouldn't have had to take a bullet for Shinji, if she didn't give permission for the crew to shoot him in the first place. Let's take this following dialogue for example:

916-929:

Kitakami: "It's a good thing we got Major Shikinami back. But why'd we have to take that disease along with her?"

Aoba: "Just leave it alone. Better than Nerv still being able to use him."

Tama: "If he tries to get into an Evangelion, all hands have permission to shoot on sight. There's nothing to worry about this time."

Kitakami: "Come on, that's all for show. The last time he broke out of here, the Captain couldn't put him down. I've got zero trust about this time either."

Nagara: "He was a kid. I can understand why she'd hesitate."

Kitakami: "That 'kid' caused Near Third Impact and murdered my entire family!"

Hyuga: "Near Third was a consequence of what he did, not his goal. The Captain's doing her best to atone for that too."

Takao: "That's right. She's who Kaji entrusted with Wille, and it's our job to trust the captain."

We learn a few things from this dialogue. Firstly, the older WILLE members are much more understanding to Shinji and Misato's situation: Aoba and Hyuga understand that it's better to keep an eye on Shinji and that he never meant to start NTI, Takao is one who always trusts Misato's judgement and Sumire understands that Misato would have found it difficult to kill a child, especially one that Misato was close with. 

Secondly, it appears that the younger WILLE members (Midori, Sakura and Tama) are the ones that are fearful/hateful towards Shinji (NOTE: Tama is a strange case, he strikes me as the sort of kid that just follows what everyone else is feeling. He might not feel anything towards Shinji beyond what you'd expect). 

Finally it appears that most of WILLE crew members are actually reasonable people and are not the extremely desperate and paranoid individuals some people on the forum believe. Remember this is AFTER Shinji started the 4th impact in Q. The fact that some of the WILLE crew members speak of Shinji in this way, show they are capable of understanding. Most actually trust Misato and respect her judgement except for Midori, who questions Misato's capabilities in following through on her threats. 

Which brings me to my next point. Misato has had no hesitation in pulling rank in the past. In 2.0, she even has an altercation with Ritsuko, her best friend, right before they fight the 8th angel. Misato is a woman that will tell even her best friend to STFU, when it comes to doing what she wants. Having said that, (timeskip shenanigans aside) there's no reason why she couldn't have done the same with the younger WILLE crew members. She could have nipped all of it in the bud by telling Sakura, Midori and the rest of them that Shinji was groomed to cause NTI and it was not his fault.

Instead, despite being the captain that everyone loves and fears, she kowtowed to the crew's paranoia and had the pilots fitted with explosive chokers, put in explosively rigged solitary confinement and gave the order to kill Shinji if they feared the worst. This is the sort of thing that drives fully grown men to suicide, never mind 14 year olds that have just come out of a coma. Imagine if Shinji did commit suicide in his cell. Who would Misato and WILLE have turned to in order to defeat Gendo in the end? What if Gendo tricked WILLE into killing their own pilots with the explosives? They would be properly screwed then. If Misato actually cared, as we are led to believe from her hesitation to kill Shinji, then she would have told the rest of the WILLE crew to fuck off, instead of alienating and putting Shinji and the pilots in that much risk. Are we really expected to believe that Misato placed such extreme countermeasures on Shinji just to appease Midori and Sakura? Not likely. This is why I believe that Misato would not have put the DSS choker on Shinji in the first place, and her doing so in Q was extremely unrealistic and out of character, even with anything that happened during the timeskip.

Some of you will say: "Who cares about realism? It's a show about aliens and growing up." While this is true, Anno has proven that he is able to pull the themes off much better when you look at the NGE series. Disregarding the self-contained narrative, it is obvious that the purpose of Q was to bring Shinji to the same point he was at after episode 24 of the series. If we look at how NGE/EOE handled Shinji's depression, we see that it is quite realistic:

The neglect and coercion by the adults in his life, almost dying to angels multiple times, the sexual tension with Asuka, almost killing Touji, finding out Rei is a clone of his mother, Misato putting the moves on him and having to kill Kaworu all culminate towards Shinji's mental state during EOE. Shinji is passively suicidal but it's due to the *situation* and his own introverted tendencies instead of people actively trying to hurt and isolate him. He finds the will to live again due to his mothers words despite knowing just how difficult living might be. If you remove all the Evas and the Angels from the story, the themes that are touched upon (isolation, neglect, misunderstanding) still apply and the audience can still resonate with them. 

The rebuilds however go about it completely differently. They bring Shinji to that same suicidal state by having all the characters/plot actively harm Shinji's mental health by:

Putting him in a coma for 14 years so he is completely clueless. Imagine how groggy you are when you wake up in the morning and then multiply that by a million. 

Have Misato psychologically castrate Shinji by telling him he won't do anything with a look of disdain on her face.

Have Ritsuko make Shinji feel dread by telling him he has a bomb on his neck and it's because he is being "punished".

Not tell him why he is being punished when he asks Misato.

Have Asuka try to punch Shinji after he thought she was dead.

Tell Shinji the girl he saved is "gone”.

Have his "mother figure" threaten to blow his head off for wanting to leave with the girl you just told him is gone.

Have Asuka and Mari attack Shinji in Lilith's chamber even though Shinji was seemingly willing to listen to them had Asuka not kept attacking. (Watch that scene again and you'll see when Asuka learns what Shinji is trying to do, she stops attacking but instead of explaining that he's being manipulated, she just calls him a brat instead).

Even Mari was willing to potentially kill or cripple Shinji with the Anti-AT rounds. (We don't know what the AA rounds are truly capable of because the only time they are used on screen, they don't work. The round cartridges state that they are armor and AT field piercing and have explicit restrictions on their use. The fact that Mari requires Asuka's explicit authorization to use them imply that they are most likely lethal and would have killed/crippled Shinji had he been in a normal Eva). 

Have Shinji's friend's head explode with the device Shinji's "mother figure" actually meant for him. Imagine seeing someone's head explode and then remember that your "mother figure" actually meant that to be for you. That would certainly mess anyone up.

Have Asuka then kick and manhandle him when he is catatonic.

Have Asuka force feed him to the point where he pukes whilst he is still grieving the death of his friend. 

Have Shinji only be escorted whilst tied to a stretcher despite him coming voluntarily.

Have Misato place Shinji in 24/7 solitary confinement in a cell rigged with explosives.

Have Misato tell the WILLE crew to shoot Shinji on sight if they think he's getting into an EVA.

Have people tell Shinji that he's being a brat the entire time for reacting badly to all this.

By having Misato, Asuka, WILLE reject and "punish" Shinji so harshly so it kicks off his isolation and desperation, it makes Shinji's "recovery" seem less believable. Anno himself didn't even know how to make Shinji recover psychologically in 3.0+1.0 and he actually had to ask the voice actors on how to make that happen. The story made the WILLE crew go full scorched-earth and in doing so made Shinji's "growth" and his reconciliation with Misato seem impossible. 

I have already stated that I believe Q represents "Condemnation" and Shin represents "Compassion" and I think both films pull that off brilliantly. But that doesn't mean I think the characters acted in a realistic manner. I do not believe that Misato would have placed such harsh sanctions on Shinji in the first place for the reasons I have stated above. And if she did, I do not believe that Shinji would have easily forgiven Misato (even IF she took a bullet for him) as we see he does in the film. I do not believe that WILLE were merely "scared and desperate" because as the dialogue above shows, they are surprisingly understanding (but still disapproving) of Shinji's situation despite him literally starting another impact. I do not believe that Misato would have bent over to Sakura and Midori's resentment and taken measures against Shinji, just to ease their minds. 

In summary, my main problem with the post-timeskip rebuilds is that I feel they gaslight the audience in thinking that Shinji was just being a "brat" the entire time by having Asuka and Mari say: "You have grown a little/You smell like an adult now." However, the truth is Shinji's been through so much mental suffering perpetrated by the people he cares about, that it's a miracle he's not killed himself. It would certainly break most of us on this forum. The movies seek to show Shinji "finally" taking responsibility when the truth is, the plot went so above and beyond putting him down in such an extreme manner in the first place.

[luminiera-merge]

despite everything i say about the mark.09, unit-02 is still at the top of my eva ranking list even pre-thrice. it's influenced by the anime's eva-02 as well ofc but NO eva takes as much punishment as unit-02 does in rebuild and keeps going. like i'm still shocked that of the two evas involved in the fight between unit-02 and the mark.09, the one that was irreparably destroyed by the resulting explosion was somehow NOT the one that self-destructed. i want to be more like unit-02