#emo bruce is making a comeback and no one can stop him
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ultimate-marysue · 5 months ago
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I made some sort of alignment classification based on whether they're impulsive or if they plan ahead for the Batfam. Feel free to correct me (politely please, I'll cry) or to add your opinion. I'm not trying to be super canon, just based on their characters' vibes.
Bruce Wayne: 100% planner. This man could be a Bene Gesserit, plans within plans, and they always work even if they shouldn't (because DC can't have him be wrong). It's like a choose your own adventure, you follow the plan and each time something new happens that is sure to chase things up he pulls a subsection specifically for it. Senior Justice League Members just don't question him anymore no matter what. "You had a contingency for getting invaded by mind controlling ballerina spiders? Yeah, sure, tell us all about it".
Barbara Gordon: she plans around her impulses. She is self aware enough at this point to know she's a bit of a hot head. It is what it is, she's called Batman an Emo Boy's idea of Therapy enough times to his face to know she just can't help herself with some stuff. So instead of working against it she plans around it. In the end, it was her plan all along. Canary thinks she could just hold her tongue, but considering the vigilantes Oracle manages, her experience in planning for these situations is invaluable.
Dick Grayson: Impulsive, not because he can't make plans or because he isn't smart. Quite the opposite. He just has that ADHD dog in him. He would be guiding the Titans through a mission and they'd be thinking "Woah, everything is going according to his plan", meanwhile inside his head is Bear Grylls saying "Improvise, Adapt, Overcome". It's not so much that he comes up with plans on the spot but he ends up changing it along the way because he thought of something better for that specific situation. He may use B's protocols for a general structure but then trusts his instinct to come up with something better on the spot.
Cassandra Cain: Neither. She's not one to be coming up with elaborate schemes but, as much as she relies on her instinct, she's able to stop before jumping. She doesn't need to plan, she knows what works. She observes and then takes the best course of action. When Bruce goes on and on about the importance of planning she just answers "Skill issue" and leaves.
Jason Todd: impulsive planner. This is a man that makes plans, okay? He's theatre kid coded, he needs to know his little monologues by heart. The thing is, he's also very emotional and has the impulse control of a toddler in front of the cookie jar. He can't help himself, he has to punch the asshole and make the witty comeback or he will explode. The outlaws have been grilled to death on the importance of following the plan but then watch him like ten minutes later throw it out the window. They find it both endearing and annoying.
Stephanie Brown: Queen of Chaos. She can plan. She's good at it too btw, she just doesn't want to if she can avoid it. She works best when she's improvising and it drives Bruce and Tim up the walls. They just hate to see women winning. She's the best one out of all of them at turning a mistake to her advantage in a matter of seconds. It's quite impressive.
Tim Drake: Chaotic planner. Everyone is so sure Tim is a mini Bruce and to a certain extent, if you squint your eyes, then yes. But Young Just Us know the truth: his plans are extremely effective but only in the most chaotic way possible. There's the Batman plan, and there's the Red Robin plan, which is like the first one but faster and with more fire. He also has to be periodically reminded to take into account his own wellbeing when making his little schemes.
Duke Thomas: plans on the go. I don't know how else to explain it but it's like those sequences in the Sherlock movies (the ones with RDJ) where he's watching his surroundings and opponents almost in slow-mo till he puts together a plan. It's similar to Dick from the outside, but if you pay attention you can see the wheels turning in his head as he goes along. He actually stops and thinks (metaphorically, most of the time his thinking is done while he distracts enemies).
Damian Al Gul Wayne: he's a strategist, not a planner. This is an important distinction because whenever Batman or Red Robin are explaining one of their convoluted plans he feels like he's actively losing braincells. He's closer to Cassandra in the way he prefers a more direct solution. He also gets palpitations anytime Jason or Stephanie just start doing things without thinking. If he knew what Dick's thought process was he would have probably developed an anxiety disorder in his time as Dick's robin. He doesn't understand the need for such high detail planning and hates the idea of making it along the way. No, he just needs to come up with the most efficient strategy and that's all.
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airplanelanding · 3 years ago
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notfeelingthyaster · 2 years ago
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I have been listening to Welcome to the Black Parade (the album) for like a whole hour inside my head as I read about Jason Todd and it f i t s w a y t o o m u c h
so I'm writing as if this is a jason todd musical mcr style, that little emo (maybe the tracks are out of order about events but)
now hear me out
the first track is "The End" and it's serving Ghost!Jason at his own grave/funeral afterward his death
"you might wake up and notice you're someone you're not" = jason waking up in the grave
"another contusion, my funeral jag/here's my resignation, i'll serve it in drag" = his final time as robin ?? his resignation from the role, his fights with bruce, him getting more violent?
"come on, come on, oh, come on, i said save me (get me the hell out of here)" = he dying in the joker's hands
"save me! (too young to die, and my dear)" = do i really need to explain?
also the whole song is about a funeral
the second track is "Dead!" and i could make the same comparison (jason is dead hehe) but this song is actually Jason singing to himself AND joker as the red hood
"and if your heart stops beating, i'll be here wondering: did you get what you deserve? the ending of your life" = the joker dying would be enough to punish him?
"have you heard the news that you're dead? no one ever had much nice to say, i think they never liked you anyway" = so this is jason's dramatic ass bitch comeback singing to the joker and HIMSELF about how no one really mourned him
"wouldn't it be grand to take a pistol by the hand" = definitely red hood
"oh motherfucker, if life ain't just a joke, then why are we laughing?" = this is the joker's answer. or maybe is jason being extra dramatic because there's also a line "then why am i dead?"
then it comes the "This is How I Disappear" track, which is basically Jason and Bruce talking
"to un-explain the unforgivable, drain all the blood and give the kids a show" = the confrontation in the tower with tim
"there's things that i have done, you never should ever know" = this is about jason's breaking the "rule"
"and live my life alone, forever now / who walks among the famous living dead" = jason talking about him going solo and being dead
"you wanna see how far down i can sink? let me go fuck" = jason screaming at bruce
The next track, "The Sharpest Lives", it's really all about The Outlaws
"a light to burn all the empires, so bright the sun is ashamed to rise and be" = Starfire? Artemis?
"give me a shot to remember, and you can take all the pain away from me" = this is Jason
"the sharpest lives are the deadliest to lead" = roy? jay? all of them really
i could continue and show were each point is but the whole vibe of the song fits the messy lives of the outlaws and the whole "forsaken heroes" they have going on
The title track, "Welcome to the Black Parade", is all about Jason's relationship with Bruce
"When I was a young boy/My father took me into the city to see a marching band / He said, "Son, when you grow up would you be the savior of the broken, the beaten and the damned?" / He said, "Will you defeat them? Your demons, and all the non-believers, the plans that they have made?""
IS THERE ANYTHING MORE ROBIN AND BATMAN THAN THIS???
"And through it all, the rise and fall / The bodies in the streets / And when you're gone, we want you all to know / We'll carry on, we'll carry on / And though you're dead and gone, believe me / Your memory will carry on" = this is about either Jason being "replaced" or Bruce being "dead"
"I won't explain or say I'm sorry/ I'm unashamed, I'm gonna show my scars / Give a cheer for all the broken / Listen here, because it's who we are / Just a man, I'm not a hero." = this is Jason refusing to apologize for being who he is
the next track is actually "I Don't Love You" and it's ALSO about Bruce, perhaps Dick?
"And after all this time that you still owe, you're still the good-for-nothing, I don't know / So take your gloves and get out / Better get out, while you can" = pick up your shit and leave me alone, jason style
"When you go, would you have the guts to say: 'I don't love you, like I loved you yesterday'" = this is about him being "replaced" by tim again, and also bc bruce didn't unalive the joker
maybe this is more a dick song than a bruce song bc of the drama, and also the little quote about "knock you down and out is where you oughta stay" feels more like he's talking to dick? idk
The "House of Wolves" track is just a big ass mess, and it's jason's joker/bruce confrontation where bruce again don't unalive this fucking clown
"And I'll be grantin' your permission / 'Cause you haven't got a prayer" = this is about him going to unalive the joker
Well, I think I'm gonna burn in Hell / Everybody burn the house right down / And say what I wanna say / Tell me I'm an angel, take this to my grave / Tell me I'm a bad man, kick me like a stray / Tell me I'm an angel, take this to my grave" = this is about bruce glorifying his death and treating Robin!Jason as an angel and red hood as the "bad man", that he is going to hell, blablabla
"So get the choir boys around you / It's a compliment, I swear" = this is about Tim/Dick and their "perfection" as "obedient robins"
"You better run like the devil / 'Cause they're never gonna leave you alone / You better hide up in the alley / 'Cause they're never gonna find you a home" = joker won't have anywhere to hide where Jason won't find him and unalive him
"And as the blood runs down the walls / You see me creepin' up these halls / I've been a bad motherfucker" = Jason about himself to Bruce
The next track is "Cancer" and I'm uncertain yet but PERHAPS this is a mix of Jason's dying on the warehouse and flashbacks about his mom (not she*la this bitch) dying
but there's a lot of mentions to actual cancer so perhaps it's the least well-suited song to jason
i do like this line a lotttt though
"Help her gather all my things / And bury me in all my favorite colors / My sisters and my brothers, still"
Then there's "Mama" and this is Jason in the warehouse with Sheila in his last moments and oooooh it's the full song
"Oh well now, Mama, we're all gonna die / Mama, we're all gonna die / Stop asking me questions, I hate to see you cry / Mama, we're all gonna die" = i don't even
"We'll let the fires just bathe us, yeah / You made us oh so famous; / We'll never let you go / And when you go don't return to me my love" = THE FIRES OF THE EXPLOSION
"Mama, we're all full of lies / Mama, we're meant for the flies / And right now they're building a coffin your size / Mama, we're all full of lies" = The lies of SERVING THE FUCKING JOKER
"She said, "You ain't no son of mine!" / For what you've done they're / Gonna find a place for you" = he is saying she's going to hell for being a bitch
If you want me to explain my thoughts about the last five songs of the album comment and all cause I'm a lil tired now
gimme thoughts about it all bc this feels like a jason todd musical
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cinnamoncinallen · 6 years ago
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Batfamily Method Acting Days
They had to be trained to do undercover work when necessary and had to be able to slip into a part at a moment’s notice, so sometimes they have days where they all get assigned a part and have to keep in character for the entire day.
Dick is the reigning champ. The boy was born to perform and does it so easily they have to wonder if he’s ever fooled them sometimes. Drunk police officer, angry pregnant mother, “Brucie” Wayne. He’s even played Alfred once and had the mannerisms and dry humor down to the point that he and Alfred spoke in unison.
Tim is close behind him. Just let him get into the style and mindset and he’s on a roll. He’s the type to plan out everything about his persona, from childhood memories to values to friends and favorite slang. The only thing that stops him from being as good as Dick is that when he’s worn down he can be caught off guard. Sometimes he can cover it up and move on like nothing happen, but the others love to get on him when he makes a slip up and try to catch him as much as possible.
Cass is definitely the most improved out of all of them. At the beginning, it was easy to break her character just by calling out her name and seeing her respond. However, her best skill is mimicking and analyzing, and once she got the hang of it she quickly surpassed majority of the family. Her entire body language changes to match that of her character, and sometimes she blends it so that they can’t tell if it’s in-character or a Cass thing. She rarely ever gets caught off guard the same way twice, so everyone keeps trying to make new ways of getting her to crack.
Stephanie is the queen of debuts and for the first few hours she’s untouchable. She has never been the first to lose. However, the longer the game goes on the more people start to gang up on her, the more tired she gets of the role and sometimes even gets bored. Watch out though because causing her to lose will make her come back with a vengeance and absolutely will be petty as long as it gets the others out.
Babs is one of the most likely ones to lose because other things keep grabbing her attention and she has to say or do something. Especially when she gets goaded into making a smart comeback whenever someone does something stupid. Her best roles are the nerdy ones. However, she is the best at forcing others to break character and so tries to get them out of the game before she snaps.
Duke is just forgetful that he’s supposed to be in character and the most common way is to just call out his name and he’ll react to it. However, when he gets into character he commits and will go all-out with the full shebang. He does not half-ass his role.
Jason is very hard to predict because sometimes he can outlast Dick but sometimes he’s the first to go. It all depends on the role he’s playing. Of course, piss him off enough and he’ll break character, though sometimes he gets angry while still playing a persona and after that no one is safe. He has a dramatic flare that practically outshines the rest.
Damian is nearly always the first to go. He’s easy to aggravate and it’s not hard to put him into a situation where he either does something he doesn’t like or stay in character. He almost always chooses the latter. However, he is amazing at voice imitations and has sparked numerous arguments as to whether doing something out of character while speaking with the perfect voice counts or not.
With Bruce it’s never a matter of whether he can pull it off but will he pull it off. He has the voice, brings out the clothes and does the whole thing but like his son if he doesn’t want to do something he will break character and leave. Of course when the family started to call him out on it Bruce stayed in his role for three days just to prove that he can. His best character is always the emo or angry boys.
Alfred only played once. He left for most of the day and when he came back into the manor after everyone had finished he was sporting a hawaiian shirt and sunglasses. When asked where he went he said he went on vacation because his role was ‘a sane person’.
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