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op is elaine of carbonek
steps into a big pot of bubbling oil and sits there like its a hot tub and i snile at you so nicely that you step in after me and youre immediately boiled til theres nothing left
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In the Camelot flashback it mentions that House Galis has a leaping stag symbol. If its not a spoiler what are the other house symbols
Pretty much all the five million different royal & noble houses & various clans would have these, so I'll just give a few samples here of the main image in the heraldry (which would be further personalized with crowns and bends and unicorns holding up the pennants & such).
House Prydain (subsumed by Pendragon): Red Dragon Passant (Basically the Welsh dragon, Ambrosius, Uther, Arthur etc)
House Orkney: Two-headed Golden Eagle (Pretty much shown all over the Orkney-related Wiki pages, Lot, Gawain, Agravain etc)
House Lyoness: Gold lion rampart (A variation from Tristan's wiki page, also Rivalin, Ysaie etc)
House Ganis: Sable five pointed star & crescent moon on a field of red (Bors I & II, Lionel, Bleoberis etc)
House Carbonek: Gold chalice (non-metallic) on a field of red (I think you know what this is, Pellam, Elaine, Galahad)
House Tintagel: Ten bezants on a field of sable (Triangle comprised of ten golden orbs, same as the Duke of Cornwall seen here, Gorlois, Cador, Constantine)
#OKS Mordred btw completely ditched his family heraldry of the two-headed eagle & is running around with a black dragon as his emblem instead#Completely unsuspicious behaviour there#oks-asks#oks-info
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ELAINE: Guys, I think I'm pregnant.
JERRY: Congratulations! ... Is it congratulations? Do you want to be pregnant?
ELAINE: I think I do. It only lasts nine months, right?
GEORGE: Do you know who's the father? Ow! Jerry!!
ELAINE: Pretty sure. Remember I told you my father invited Lancelot over for dinner, and then got him drunk? He made Lancelot think I was Guenevere.
JERRY: What? Before you kind of left out the part where you went to bed with the best knight in the world and the queen's paramour.
ELAINE: Dad thinks we're descended from Joseph of Arimathea and Lancelot is from a cadet branch of Jesus' family. He's trying to breed the anti-antichrist, or something.
GEORGE: What's your half-brother the king got to say about all this?
KRAMER: (enters carrying three huge vases filled with lillies) Anyone need a funeral boat full of flowers?
I think about "seinfeld is a better arthurian adaptation than bbc's merlin bc it has a woman named elaine" every single day of my life. @ whoever commented that can we kiss.
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A design I made for my interpretation of Elaine of Corbenic. I've been told she's reminiscent of Elaine of Astolat too. I've been trying to do more art for fun, and I'm using this to practice screen tones, patterns and grayscale shading. You'll see the results next week.
#kingarthur#arthurian#arthuriana#medieval#art#ink#wip#characterart#fanart#elaine#corbenic#carbonek#astolat#illustration#comics#medievalcore#cottagecore#castle#castlecore#darkacademia#lightacademia#aesthetic#window#sunlight#embroidery#veil#mysterious#dark academia#light academia
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ive been thinking a lot about...knights who lie? or lie by omission? because obviously arthurian romance posits itself as deriving from ‘authentic’ court documents and I think lancelot doesn't tell the court scribes about Elaine of carbonek for a long while (understandable) and I also vaguely remember gawain doing something similar with floree, ostensibly to preserve her honour?
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ELAINE: How many times have I told you the story? When I was a maid, I saw a vision.
What’s ending, and what’s beginning? Here's a tiny sneak peak something we've been working on for Grail Knight, featuring Katie, our Elaine of Carbonek, and Wynn, our music director.
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#arthuriana#arthurian literature#arthurian retelling#quest for the holy grail#galahad#immersive theater
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yet more on disability in Malory’s Le Morte d’Arthur
for anyone who is interested in the topic, this posts continues to summarise Sitting on the Sidelines: Disability in Malory by Kristina Hildebrand - same as always, cw for both in-text and out-of-text ableism, and also a note that i’m disabled and the views expressed in this article don’t necessarily align with mine ⚔️ 🏰
previous posts can be found here:
introduction
Sir Urre
Part 3 - King Pellam (and the Grail Quest as a story of disability)
in every Arthurian romance, the basic plotline of the Grail Quest involves the Grail King (often called the Fisher King) being wounded and then healed many years later by the Grail Knight (either Galahad or Percival)
this Grail Quest in Le Morte d’Arthur can be seen as a story of disability - from its first appearance, the Holy Grail renders the Round Table “mute” and causes a certain sort of “blindness” (they cannot see the Grail clearly). This “blindness” motivates the quest (they desire to be “cured” and see the Grail):
The Grail... is always already linked to the disabled body. When the Grail appears before the Round Table knights for the first time, disability marks its arrival in two ways. First, the knights are struck mute just prior to its appearance. Moreover, the knights suffer a kind of blindness in its presence; no one is able to clearly view the Grail, and it is this inability that inaugurates the Grail Quest: they vow not to return until they have ‘sene hit more opynly'. Disability thus serves as the Quest’s motive and objective: to see what cannot be seen, or, in effect, to cure impaired vision.
Malory repeatedly associates the Grail Quest with the disabled body through the Grail King(s) (and other kings/knights encountered during the quest). His text has a lot of repetition and alteration in this context, with two ‘maimed kings’ (and a separate Fisher King) and three ‘dolorous strokes’ (“maiming” attacks) - this isn’t a case of similar names and themes popping up again, but rather previous asides/plot points being bought back with noticeable differences.
Maimed king (1)/Dolorous stroke (1) - Pellam is introduced early on*. He is wounded by Sir Balin and his lands waste as a result (common Grail King narrative), which is why the blow Balin dealt is referred to as a ‘dolorous stroke’. In this way, disability is spread from a ruler to the land he rules. The text explicitly states that he remains wounded until he is healed by Galahad during his quest for the Grail (foreshadowing for later)
* (this story also links to one medieval conceptualisation of disability (among several), which is ‘impairment’ as judgement for sin. Pellam appears later as the Grail guardian, a positive spiritual figure, so it is unlikely that it is his sin that is being punished. Instead, it may be a punishment for Balin’s sins, albeit visited on the wrong body)
Dolorous stroke (2) - The dolorous stroke is brought up again in the Grail story, when King Hurlaine kills King Labor. This act leads to both of their realms becoming wastelands.
Maimed king (2)/Dolorous stroke (3) + Fisher King - the maimed king returns with a name change (Pelles instead of Pellam). Here he is King of Corbenic (Carbonek), Elaine of Corbenic’s father, and consequently Galahad’s grandfather. This family link is important to note, as earlier King Pelles of Corbenic appears in the text, unwounded and unmaimed. The way in which he is wounded also changes from Pellam’s story, instead involving the sword used to kill King Labor and a spear. Furthermore, when Galahad arrives at Arthur’s court, he mentions his grandfather Pelles and the Fisher King as two separate people living at Corbenic.
several other characters exist that participate in the thematic function of the maimed Fisher King:
King Evelake (400 years old, encountered by Percival, healed by Galahad)
King Mordrayns (blind, restored to youth as he is healed by Galahad, promptly dies in his arms)
the ‘Maymed Kyng’ (sick, lives at castle Corbenic but is not King Pelles, healed with blood from the spear that accompanied the Grail - might be the Fisher King already said to be living there with Pelles)
old man in Sarras (needs crutches, healed by Galahad)
interesting to note that King Pelles is never healed on the page - and may not have been healed at all. When the Grail knights leave Corbenic, it is still referred to as the place of the ‘Maymed Kyng’ (whether this is the unnamed Maymed Kyng or King Pelles is unclear). Because all of these disabled kings share the Fisher King’s thematic function, Pelles doesn’t have to fulfil that function by being healed.
these sort-of Fisher Kings share two characteristics associated with disability and the Middle Ages: liminality of the impaired and the potentially positive outcome of impairment
1) the potentially positive outcome of impairment - if not brought about by sin, illness/impairment could be seen as a form of cleansing and spiritual healing. Some of the maimed kings (e.g. Evelake) are injured due to sin, but many of them can still be seen as examples of “purification through suffering impairment”. They are all close to the Grail, are seen praying, and await healing by Galahad (who they know is coming):
Disability in Malory can be caused by evil magic, by sin, or by too presumptuous a desire for the Grail, but it also consistently represents penance, purification, and the grace of God.
2) liminality of the impaired - the maimed kings inhabit liminal space; unlike with Sir Urre, they often don’t leave liminal space to become part of the community after being healed, but die instead. They also exist in this liminal space for more reasons than disability...
the Grail quest is different from the other quests and adventures in Malory’s text. The rules are different in this liminal world, where only virtuous living can bring the knights success, not chivalry or prowess. It is a space where God can be seen (e.g. at Mass the Eucharist turns into a child and then back into bread), and it is a space for leaving - only the Grail guardians and servants can remain, while the knights either die or exit the space:
It is also a liminal space in that it has to be left: the knights cannot remain within it. Some return to Camelot, some are killed, and some die peacefully and enter heaven, but the liminal space can only be temporarily inhabited by all except the Grail's guardians and servants—many of whom also exhibit the liminality of disability.
like Sir Urre, the disabled Grail guardians cannot participate in the chivalric community - but unlike in Urre’s story, the chivalric community here is broken. Knights fail to recognise each other and end up killing one another - the chivalric community can’t exist in this liminal space. They are transformed in this liminal space, just as disabled bodies are sites of transformation:
The knights' bodily ability, which has defined them before and will again in the story of Sir Urré, here avails them nothing. Their bodies are moving through a liminal landscape, where some will be transformed by holy orders or by death. The guardians of this Grail landscape are thus permanent inhabitants of the liminal, and their disabilities may be seen as representing a place where bodies are in constant transformation, moving towards death, sacredness, or bliss.
The inconsistency/confusion in the Grail narrative may be due to the discomfort Malory and his audience feel regarding disability and disabling injuries, and the threat they pose to their membership in knightly society and to their able-bodied image:
The confusion surrounding a character, like the Grail king - traditionally portrayed as, and even defined by, his disability - indicates a deep discomfort with the subject. I would claim that the invisibility and confusion surrounding disability in Malory's text is due to its being non-normative, and thus marginalized to the point of invisibility in the text, and that this, in its turn, is due to its being a site of anxiety for the intended audience.
Conclusion
Disability slips through the text, away from the reader's attention, and is seen only at the moment of restoration. The focus remains on the restorer, not on the disabled character, who cannot occupy a central place in the text. When the character moves nearer the center, like Pelles does in the Grail story, the disability cannot co-exist with centrality, and thus becomes invisible. Existing in liminal space, forced out of the chivalric community, the disabled knights can no longer partake in the pursuits that define them as knights. They sit on the sidelines as the story inexorably moves away, retaining the able-bodied at its center.
#Arthuriana#disability#arthurian literature#Le Morte d'Arthur#sir thomas malory#the holy grail#grail quest#grail knight#King Pellam#The Fisher King#*#ableism#medieval literature#resources#knights#Corbenic#Galahad
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Long, not-especially necessary & very self-indulgent ramblings about Percival’s (and Tor’s) extended family structure and history from both sides below the cut. Warning for unadulterated tangent-ing and explaining about a subject I’ve spent way too goddamn long thinking about.
I said up-front this was going to be a very long tangent so buckle-up buttercups.
The Percival’s parentage and family, as depicted in the various Arthurian texts, is hopelessly confused and contradictory, with Perci having no less than five, if not more, named Fathers, and at least three different named Mothers. On top of that, some of these parents and their siblings are related each other, with Alaine le Gros & Pellinore being referenced as brothers of Pelles/The Fisher King, while Pellinore is also himself sometimes written as the Fisher King- Meanwhile, Yglais, among Percival’s mothers, is also said to be the sister of Pelles. This is a more non-issue relating to Percival’s parentage and family as it pertains to Parzival’s texts, because Sir Gahrumet and Herzeloyde, while filling the same roles as Perci’s other various parents, have somewhat more distinct characters of their own, with much less confused depictions than Alaine, Pellinore, Yglais and the various other parents.
This all being said, because A) I don’t base Perci on any one particular text or narrative from the Arthurianna, B) My approach for Fate ocs is to make the most out of all the historical/mythological canon and include almost everything so long as it can be made to work in a character’s history and fits with my characterization, C) I’ve already taken a lot of liberties regarding characterizing Percival, Tor, Loholt and the other Knights on this blog, just on top of the generally expected Fate series revisionism, I basically decided the easiest way to approach the contradictory mess known as Percival’s family was to to mix & match between the various parents and fold the varying aspects of them into one another to make a semi-cohesive narrative regarding their roles, characters, stories and histories. And now that I’ve rambled about all that, I’ll get onto actually explaining that narrative and in what way I actually put all the parents together- Starting by saying that as far it concerns Percival’s canon here, Pellinore and Yglais are her parents, and continuing on first with how this all ties into Pellinore, because he much more straightforward between the two of them.
Though I could follow through with Pellinore being related to Pelles and Alain, and involve his half of the family having a role in keeping the Holy Grail, for the sake of making everything easier, it seemed like a better idea not to do that, because I’d already decided that Yglais would serve as the parent with the relationship to Carbonek and the Grail Quest.So, that in mind, Pellinore here is entirely divorced from everything regarding that relationship beyond his relationship to Yglais. In place of that, he’s instead been given the same background as Sir Gahmuret (Percival’s Father in Parzival), making him the son of King Gandin and Queen Schoette of Anjou. It wouldn’t really make sense to call him (King) Pellinore of the Isles if he were from a French territory that was very much not an island, though, so instead of ruling Anjou, Gandin’s family hails from ‘The Isles’ (which I personally like to think of as being Anglesey).
As for his place in his family, Pellinore would’ve been the second eldest, following after his elder brother Galoes and before his younger sisters, Ladies Flurdamurs & Limmire. His being the younger of the family’s two sons, he wasn’t initially set to inherit the throne and wasn’t primed to behave in the same way a future King might- Instead, much as Gahmuret did in Parzival, Pellinore spent much of his younger years adventuring and questing about, and it was through his aimless adventuring that he would end up in Carbonek and come to meet Yglais. Meanwhile, it would Galoes who initially did inherit the throne, and ruled for a brief while- However, he ended up finding his death while having come to the service of the Lady Annore of Averre, whom he was in love with. His dying without an heir left the position for Pellinore to take up, which, after asking for Yglais’ hand in marriage and getting an enthusiastic acceptance from her, he became the King of the Isles and eventual Father of Aglovale, Lamorak, Tor, Drian & Percival. Regarding his sisters, Flurdamurs went on to become the wife of King Kingrisin of Ascalun, and have two children of her own with him. Limmire, meanwhile, would go on to marry the red Knight known as Sir Ither- The same problem Knight who Percival would later end up accidentally killing and taking the armor of- She’d then later remarry and have a son known as Garel of the Blooming Valley. Pellinore would also have one child not by Yglais, prior to their marriage- With the Lady of the Rule, he had a daughter named Elaine. They tragically met only once, and as Pellinore was in the middle of a quest to save the lady of the lake, he didn’t pay much attention to a grief-stricken Elaine, and she killed herself with the sword of her dead lover after Pellinore left. He did find out after the fact that Elaine was his child, and he did indeed feel very remorseful that he’d never even known her to be his child before her death. And that concludes the general family tree & significance of Pellinore and his family; Which means it’s time to move onto Yglais and for things to get really long.
Having excluded Pellinore from any direct non-marriage relationship to the Grail family side of things makes contextualizing Yglais’ somewhat easier. While I could go on another entire tangent about the Grail family’s lineage on it’s own, it really doesn’t matter exceptionally much beyond a few points, so I’m just gonna focus on the big things. The Grail Family of Carbonek were descended from Joseph of Arimathea, who was said to be one of Jesus’ disciples, and was the first man appointed to the duty of keeping the Holy Grail. Saying more gets into a lot of contradictory and confusing details that I honestly don’t think are worth going over, since it’s generally irrelevant to the larger narrative concerning…Everything, basically. The important thing to know is primarily that his family became tasked with the keeping of the grail, and they’d come to settle in Carbonek, which was…Somewhere in Britain, I guess. I’d mark him as the like, 30x great grandfather of Yglais or something.
Anyways, as for Yglais herself, she essentially keeps the same role and place among her family as she always had in the texts, but with an expanded narrative in-so-doing. Making Pelles & Alaine le Gros her brothers serves to fit her as the daughter of King Grais Le Gros, and the sister to his ten other sons. In chronological order, Grais’ sons were Pelles, Alain le Gros, Gosgallian, Brun Brandalis, Bertoles the Bald, Brandalus of Wales, Elinant of Escavalon, Calobrutus, Meralis, Fortimes of the Crimson Heath, Meliarman of Albanie, Galerian of the White Tower and Aliban of the Waste City. Pelles was the one of these twelve who would become the Fisher/Grail King in Grais’ place. Yglais, was, however, the one set to become the Keeper of the Grail in her Father’s place, as she was his first-born, and had the temperament of a ruler- It was her decision to leave Carbonek to marry Pellinore and become Queen of the Isles that would have Pelles taking the throne. Because I’ve already folded in influences from Parzival’s Gahmuret into Pellinore, it seems fitting enough to put the sisters of Herzeloyde in as Yglais’ sisters here- Their names were Schoysiane & Repanse de Schoye, and I’m not entirely sure how old they’d have been in comparison to the other…thirteen children beyond in that they’d have been younger than Yglais, Pelles & Alaine.
When she left Carbonek to become Pellinore’s Queen of the Isles, Yglais did essentially leave behind everything from her former life. Though she kept somewhat in contact with her siblings, and did end up taking care of her sister’s daughter for several years, Yglais was primarily focused upon building her own family- Partially out of a shame for having left behind the duty which she’d previously intended to commit her life to, and partially because she wished for her children to be kept away from such a heavy kind of responsibility. Like, yes, being from the Grail Family is kind of a cool, honorable thing- But it also came with a lot of pressure, a lot of expectations and responsibilities, and she didn’t want to force any of that kind of burden onto her children. Her decision to later retire into the Perilous Forest with a young Percival and raise her ignorant of the perils of the chivalry and adventure was not one that came purely from the death of her husband. The Dolorous Stroke that cursed Carbonek was in around the same time frame of when her youngest two children were born- A boy and a girl, fraternal twins as her and Pelles were, and they’d been named Percival & Dindrane, respectively. While Dindrane was perfectly healthy, Percival was born sickly and frail, and didn’t survive his infancy. This, on top of what happened in Carbonek (which, even with how distant she’d become, she learned about on account of what a big deal it was to the family), followed by Pellinore’s death only a few short years later, was enough to convince Yglais that the entire family - Or, at least, her and Pelles - were being divinely punished for his behavior as King...And perhaps for her choice to abandon the role she would’ve otherwise fulfilled herself. Ultimately, her decision to seclude herself and Percival/Dindrane within the Perilous Forest did little to dissuade her daughter from following in her Father’s footsteps, leaving Yglais to lament on her own as her children all went off to become knights. Though a lot of texts place Percival’s mother as having passed away in grief after they’d gone off to become a Knight, Yglais instead lived into an elderly age- Far longer than any of her children did, ultimately.
Continuing on with the roles of Yglais’ siblings, the Fisher King, Pelles, is of course, the one warranting most attention. It was for his benefit that Percival became actively involved in the Grail Quest, with him needing the Grail both for the sake of restoring Carbonek and healing himself. The reason for Carbonek’s decline and his own injury and sickliness, however, was truly his own fault. It seemed inconceivable to think Yglais might ever abdicate her position as the heir to Carbonek’s throne, abandon her family duty of safeguarding the Grail- Much like Pellinore was not expected to have a reason to ascend to his brother’s throne, Pelles was never considered to ever be in line to truly succeed his sister as an heir. Thus, he was never truly fit for the role of King, lacking both any of the years of preparation which Yglais had gone through…And the ability entirely to act as a King, especially a King of the Holy Grail, should. Pelles was of a similar stripe to one Kotomine Kirei, existing as an empty person who took joy in the sorrow and pain of others- Though, unlike Kotomine, he did have the ability to truly connect with and empathize for others. It simply never came naturally to him, was something he had to choose to do, whereas hurting others was the default option, the instinctive response to interactions. While he masked this as Prince, as acting on his true nature would’ve then left him liable to face consequences for his actions, taking the throne gave him a reason to throw away his inhibitions. Rejecting all pious formality which the Grail family had formerly lived by, Pelles spent many years indulging himself in parties, entertaining many lovers whom he’d never marry and keeping company with murderous and villainous Knights out of appreciation for the pain they’d cause others. He’d father a child in Elaine of Carbonek, raising her on his own and not particularly well at that- Though some of him truly loved his daughter, he couldn’t keep himself from hurting her. Never physically, at least, but emotionally, mentally- Pelles was as often affectionate and loving as he was cruel and reprimanding, verbally and psychologically abusive.
With all this behavior, it was inevitable that the Grail King - someone who was supposed to live as a keeper of the Grail, someone divinely chosen as worthy of God’s favor - would find himself facing punishment. In retribution for his lifestyle, Pelles was dealt the Dolorous Stroke with the Bleeding Lance by Sir Balin- The Bleeding Lance was otherwise known as the Lance of Longinus, the very same which pierced the side Jesus on the cross. The sacred object’s usage was an offense, and caused immediately the Grail Castle to crumble and the lands of Carbonek to turn from a beautiful, lively place blessed by the Grail’s presence to a shadow of it’s former self, a cursed wasteland. It was for that purpose that Galahad was needed, in fact- A grail hero to heal the Fisher King, and restore Carbonek to it’s former glory. Pelles would also play a hand in that, being a conspirator in tricking Lancelot into unknowingly sleeping with Elaine and leading to Galahad’s birth- An act he’d never feel shame or remorse in having done. Elaine would pass on herself not long after his grandson’s birth, and Pelles would leave Galahad’s care to Repanse. He’d varying interact with the other Knights of the Round Table as they happened through Carbonek several times, but he’d loose an active role in events until the end of the Grail Quest, wherein the curse against Carbonek was lifted and his wound was, after 15+ years, healed. He’d live to an old age himself, and with his passing, and the Holy Grail having been returned to Heaven by Galahad years earlier, the dynasty of Grail Keepers would ultimately end with him.
Though Alaine Le Gros was said to be Percival’s father and not an Uncle, him being the brother of Pelles necessitated his role shift and seeing as Alaine, as Percival’s Father, was supposed to have a significant connection to the Holy Grail, it seemed like a fitting enough solution to just slide him in as Yglais & Pelles’ younger brother (and also him having a handful of younger brothers makes it a lot easier to explain where Percival’s aunts and uncles and cousins come from). Much as Pellinore & Yglais share traits of their Parzival counterparts, Alaine’s role as Percival’s uncle is mixed with his Parzival counterpart’s, Trevrizent, and with another uncle named Elyas Anais. After Percival’s initial failing to ask the Grail Question which would’ve healed Pelles, it was Alaine and her cousin Sigune who explained the nature of Pelles’ wound, and that the Holy Grail was required in order to heal the lands of Carbonek and her uncle’s ailment. When Pellinore arrived in Carbonek the first time, it was Alaine of the Grail family who he met first, and it was the other prince’s free-spiritedness that inspired Alaine to himself become, for a time, something of an adventurer himself. It would’ve been inaccurate to say Alaine became a true Knight, but he was skilled enough to be one- More, he spend his time adventuring and seeing what the world had to offer, before eventually returning home to Carbonek. In the time after Yglais left, he served as something of a Prince Regent, managing the affairs of the Kingdom while Pelles partied and faffed about. Ultimately, Alaine served as more of a priest and a monk than a true Prince to Carbonek- Though, after Yglais, he would’ve been the most fitting choice for ruler among his siblings. His death came after a fight with the Red Giant, a giant that had previously killed his youngest brother, Aliban- Though Alaine didn’t die fighting it, he was struck a mortal wound and perished not long after he’d killed it.
Gosgallian was a minor character on the whole, mentioned merely as being Alaine’s younger brother. Because it’s convenient, I’m replacing Pelles with him regarding Percival’s conflict with Sir Aristor of Amorave. Aristor was said to have killed Percival’s uncle (Pelles) as part of a revenge plot for the death of his cousin- However, on account of Pelles being the Fisher King and not dying most of the time is kind of important to the narrative, it makes it easier to simply replace him with Gosgallian. So, Gosgallian was Percival’s maternal uncle who she knew well enough to be upset and want to avenge when Artistor killed him. Moving on, Percival’s other uncles, Brun Brandalis and Bertoles the Bald were notable only in that they existed and died in combat. Brun apparently had a son, but I didn’t find a name for him. For a third time, Percival’s uncle, Brandalus of Wales apparently died at a young age and that’s all there is on him, so I’m moving on.
Eminent of Escavalon still apparently died at a early age, but not so early as to have died before having a son. That son was named Alain, who died fighting the Knight of the Burning Dragon. Alain himself wasn’t particularly notable beyond that, but his death at the Knight’s hands lead Percival to fight him in order to avenge her cousin, so that’s notable enough. Calobrutus was similarly not especially notable, but he apparently didn’t die at a young age or in combat, and also had a son, named Calobrus. Calobrus ended up being captured by a villainous Knight known as Gohart, the Lord of the Castle of the Whales, who left him chained on a rock to starve. The daughter of the rightful King of the Castle of the Whales apparently kept him alive until Percival later arrived and freed her cousin before going on to defeat Gohart. She allowed Calobrus to punish Gohart himself, and Calobrus opted to leave him chained to the same rock he had been himself. Following that, Percival apparently awarded the Castle of the Whales to Calobrus, but I imagine she simply returned it to the King’s daughter, who then in turn married Calobrus. He’s not mentioned again, so I’d say they married and lived happily in their whale castle together.
Percival’s ninth uncle, Meralis has nothing further to characterize him beyond that he existed. I would leave it at that and move on, but as I’ve headcannoned that the Leprous Lady, Verdoana, whom Percival healed in donating her blood was related to her by marriage, I’ll instead place her as Meralis’ wife. Further, since I’d imagined Verdoana’s seemingly near-incurable leprousy was an extension of the curse against Carbonek, as a part of the broader punishment against the Grail Kingdom, I’ll say Meralis likely also died when the original Grail Castle collapsed with the Dolorous Stroke being struck, leaving the suddenly magically ailed Verdoana to be cared for by her Knights- Who were the ones who insisted upon the blood donation for the sake of her health. After Verdoana was healed, her Castle was struck with heavenly fire as a punishment for the deaths the donation caused, but the lady herself was unharmed- I imagined she very mournfully lived out the remainder of her days in Carbonek, feeling very guilty despite never really having been the one at fault.
Fortimes is generally uninteresting, but he had a fort known as the Crimson Heath (hence him being Fortimes of the Crimson Heath) where a competition was held to find a champion worthy of avenging Alain’s death at the hand of the Burning Dragon. Percival ended up being the victor, which was presumably how she became involved in the first place. Meliarman of Albanie apparently lived in Scotland and died in combat there. There’s nothing else more that I can say or expand on for him, so that’s it. Galerian of the White Tower lived in a White Tower and died at a young age. Beyond that, it’s mentioned Percival won a golden cup at the White Tower tournament, and that’s about it. Moving on. Aliban of the Waste City was the Lord of the Waste City, which was presumably just a city in Carbonek. There’s a mention of a beheading game going on there, but it relates to Lancelot, so it’s not especially relevant. Aliban was killed by a giant known as the Red Giant, and Alaine later avenged his death. That concludes the segment on Percival’s uncles- Onto the aunts.
Between Scoysiane and Repanse, Scoysiane had a lesser role but served a greater purpose in Percival’s story. Scoysiane died giving birth to her daughter, Sigune. Her death lead to Sigune being raised by Yglais for some time, and as such, she was the one cousin whom Percival met prior to her becoming a Knight. She returned to Carbonek after coming of age, and she married a man named Schionatulander. She was also friends with the smith Trebuchet, who forged the Grail Sword that would become Percival’s. She hadn’t meant specifically for it to be given to Percival, but simply had given it to Pelles and told him to award it to whomever was worthy- Pelles later gave it to Percival when attempting to win her favor and coax her into asking the Grail Question, but Percival simply accepted the gift without understanding his intent. After failing to ask the needed question, Percival later found Sigune outside of the castle of Corbin, mourning Schionatulander’s death at the hands of the Haughty Orguelleus of La Lander, Percival didn’t initially remember her name, but they did recognize each other. Alaine would find the both of them there, and he and Sigune went on to explain the necessity of the Holy Grail in restoring Carbonek and healing Pelles, while Sigune further elaborated on how Percival would need to find Trebuchet in order to mend her sword, as it was meant to inevitably break. Percival then went on to avenge Schionatulander’s death by defeating Orguelleus, though she did spare him when he requested mercy. When the Grail sword later broke, and Percival needed it repaired, it was her mention of being Sigune’s cousin that finally convinced Trebuchet to mend it for her- Apparently he was supposed to die after repairing it, so his reluctance was certainly not unfounded. Though Sigune and Percival were never stated to meet again after Percival avenged Schionatulander’s death, I personally thought it seemed bittersweet to imagine it was Sigune who saw to arranging her cousin’s funeral in Carbonek.
Meanwhile, as Repanse’s role in Parzival was primarily to serve as a love interest for Fierefiz, a half brother of Percival’s. Seeing as that’s creeping pretty close to incest territory and I haven’t really figured out how Fierefiz would fit into Percival’s narrative (he’s very different from all of percival’s other various siblings, and while I don’t want to outright make him non-canon to Percival, I’m not entirely sure how I would explain him at the moment), that entire angle of Repanse can be considered entirely scrapped and non-canon here. Instead of that, Repanse, now being another of Pelles’ sisters, takes the place of an unnamed sister of the Fisher King. The unnamed sister who Repanse serves to replace was the abbess whom Pelles saw fit to put in charge of caring for Galahad after Elaine’s death, making Repanse Galahad’s caretaker great-aunt in her place. I’d elaborate more on the specifics, but beyond her being his great aunt & caretaker, and her being the abbess of a nunnery, there’s painfully little else more to work with. In closing on Repanse, I imagine she lived to a relatively old age and was fairly content with how she’d lived her life- No major regrets and feeling like she’d done her best.
There’s a handful of other relatives who Percival has that I could (and probably will, at some point, in the future) go over, but that’s a very big and general overview of Perci’s extended family as it concerns this blog. Most of her other relatives either aren’t named or have roles minor enough that I feel including them here wouldn’t be necessary- The point here was mainly to make a big-ass post that contextualizes Pellinore and Yglais’ lineages, and how their families would’ve factored into Percival’s story. And now my tangent about this topic which I’ve spent too much time on is is done.
#;headcannon#be warned this is genuinely ridiculously fucking long.#did you wanna know all about perci's family history? i sure hope so because that's all this is.#24k+ words worth of family revisionism#i have maybe spent way too much time thinking about all of this okay#like maybe ive stayed up at night just to ponder over all of this#(that is exactly what ive been doing yes)
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Yes, Carrot-Galahad was the obvious one which I alluded to above. The other suggestions you have for the watch are each half what I was thinking: Kay for Colon and Gawaine for Nobby. I only started thinking about this halfway through rereading Guards! Guards! which I’ve only just finished so that’s as far as I’ve gotten with the Watch, though Angua must be Marrok.
Even with his cynicism, Vimes is the closest thing to Arthur that Discworld has, at least in the regular cast. And I think Arthur’s the closest AKOTAS has to Vimes, too.
Farther afield, I was thinking Guenevere for Nanny Ogg, Nimue for Tiffany, and Elaine of Carbonek for ... I can’t remember her name, the other one, the Mother. Weatherwax! Granny Weatherwax. Morgan for Susan, maybe. As for the Librarian, that’s almost as obvious as Carrot - who in AKOTAS is a wizard and always wears orange?
As I said in the OP I’m not sure I’ll draw more of these, but it's likely: I’ve sort of set out to reread the ones I’ve read, and read the ones I haven’t read, and on the whole I don’t remember which are which.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a Discworld allusion in AKOTAS somewhere though I don’t remember it, but are you sure you’re not thinking of this?
[Image description: A cartoon in my MSPaint-based “triangle figures” style of Terry Pratchett’s Discworld mashed-up with my Arthur King Of Time And Space. In a scene from Guards! Guards!, Arthur-as-Vimes has been tossed into the Ankh-Morpork Palace dungeon where he discovers Mordred-as-Lord-Vetinari sitting on a cot shaving, with a local rat holding a mirror for him and a basin of water on the floor. His coat is hooked on some protuberance on the wall and nearby are two short stools bearing a bottle of wine and a thick book with a book mark sticking out of it. End of description.]
There may be more of these. At least one of the other cross-castings is pretty damned obvious.
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Card Reading for Sunday 4th February 2018
Galahad-The Camelot Oracle
Sir Galahad, in Arthurian legend, is a knight of King Arthur's Round Table and one of the three achievers of the Holy Grail. He is the illegitimate son of Sir Lancelot and Elaine of Corbenic, and is renowned for his gallantry and purity
Aspect : Spirituality
Qualities
Generosity
Vision
Unworldiness
Clarity
Foresight
Truthfulness
Galahad
Galahad the spiritual knight, is the son of of Elaine of Carbonek & Lancelot of the Lake. The lineage relates him to Joseph of Arimathea, who first brought the grail to Britain in the medieval version of the story.
His name actually comes from his father, since Lancelot's given name was also
Galahad.
He surpassed his father in both chivalry & strength, becoming the achiever of the Grail along with Perceval & Bors.
Through many have seen him as an empty cipher, so far removed from human experience, that he's cold and distant, and this is far from the case.
The circumstances of his birth are strange and he seems to desire to leave home as soon as possible in order to take up tasks for which he seems uniquely suited.
His devotion to quest the Grail is so single minded that he seems to have no space for any other feeling, yet his relationship with his father both touching and enlightening and his last words are to Bors telling him to remmeber to my father "Sir Lancelot"
It's clear that medieval Christian writers who told his story saw him as a Christ like figure, set apart from ordinary men, but despite his apparent aloofness, he is still capable of human feelings. Accompanying us on our journey, he brings a profound level of perception to both everyday concerns & spiritual goals
You are most likely to find Galahad in the chapel of the Grail, kneeling perhaps, lost in contemplation of the holy cup, if you seek to spend time with him and listen to his words, be prepared for a direct and penetrating questions and incisive answers.
Galahad is above all things, clear and truthful but his words are intended only to enlighten and to help you, find the way to transcend any problem facing you.
Stand with him in the quiet of the morning by the shore of the sea.
http://www.allaboutparanormal.co/2018/02/Galad-The-Camelot-Oracle.html
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Weekly roundups: prompts
Tsukihime
Smut, I want that anemic twink Shiki spitroasted by Arcueid and Ciel in some odd competitive threesome thing the two got going on
Show mercy on my soul. Femboy Akiha.
Fate/Stay Night
FGO
Smut, For as much as they want her 'spear', I think Morgan should introduce Gudako and Da Vinci to it-- that is, can we have her cock vore the two of them?
Smut, incest, Karna and Vritra team up to edge and overstim Arjuna until he cries
jeanne gets some well deserved karma for her big sister beam brainwashing .
Yknow how Nobukatsu gloats over the REAL Nobunaga saying he is nothing like his as he lays dying from the poison he gave him? Something similar but this time Mitsuhide is the target and he made sure the poison was just right that it would take a very long time for him to die as he watches Or he just stabs the guy I dunno Nobukatsu deserves to kill more people
Morgan is Bored and demands carnival rides be built in Fae Britain. Entertainment ensues.
Noncon, incest, Summer Avatoria having a soft fulfilling romance with Muramasa as people who are tied by fate thrice over. Meanwhile Summer Castoria would LOVE to stop waking up filled with cum from a man she considers ber grandfather. The downsides of sharing a body you know how it is (feel free to play it as lighthearted or fucked up as you wish)
Asclepius becomes a therapist because dear God do some of these servants (and staff) need help and somebody's gotta be the counselor.
Noncon, Elaine of Carbonek, the raging bitch who raped Lancelot and mother of Galahad, is summoned. If you thought Galahad resented his FATHER, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. Mash has to be physically restrained when Elaine refers to her as “Junior.” (Technically, Galahad would be Galahad Jr, if Lancelot ever went by his birth name. I am an Arthuriana nerd.)
Emiya realizes that Ritsuka mission are becoming too dangerous, so he locks himself there with her, she can left whenever she wants, as long as she is able to do a simple task, with all the knowledge and weapons she gathered from her servants she must kill him, proving she has become strong enough to be the protector of humanity
Salieri gets a Summer form, where instead of being the amalgamation of the rumours of who killed Mozart, he's the amalgamation of the myths of the Maenads who tore Orpheus apart.
First Hassan and Shiki killing increasingly improbable and abstract things as a friendly contest. Escalating from “the tension in the room” to Barghest’s desire to eat her loved ones” to “Artoria’s resentment of Mordred” to “Wednesdays.���
Continuation of the Grand Carnival joke: Atalanta has to marry Kingprotea, BB is in charge of organizing wedding and the rest of the Sakura Five are bridesmaids aka have to make sure Atalanta doesn't escape.
Blackbeard, Absolute Disgusting Degenerate that he is, is well aware that his kink is not everyone else's kink, and so after finding some improperly tagged Smut or Hentai, decides to make a video about the importance of tagging, what it means, and how to do it, because tagging your shit properly means that everyone can enjoy themselves in peace, so long as they use the blacklist. (This just kinda came to me TBH, Cause Blackbeard just kinda feels like he'd take proper tagging very seriously given everything about him.)
Fun fact: "thou" and "thy" and such were actually the informal register - "you" and "your" were the fancy, polite terms. Therefore, someone should write a fic of First Hassan trying to seem hip and chill and failing catastrophically because his understanding of what counts is hundreds of years out of date.
UDK Barghest gets hired to Put out a Fire (Read: Help Melusine with her Draconic Heat). Whether it goes full smut or if it goes in a comedic non sexy route is up to the author
Smut, Yu Mei-Ren has Hella Gay Sex with her Summer Variant. (Not NTR, though I'm not sure who all would consider it such anyway since its self on self.)
One of the Draconic/Lizard Servants installs a heat lamp in their room, because if you've got a tech wizard who will do anything for you, why not? After approximately 10-ish seconds of "why didn't I think of this before" from all the other Dragon-type servants, everyone immediately rushes to said room. Ensue dogpile of like, 20 lizard people (including Oberon and Rasputin for some reason??? gotta love traits) whether this is horny or not is up to the writer.
Smut, On their big day, a bride is stressed about the whole event and is this close to calling it quits. Habetrot can't have this so obviously there's one solution: cocksleeve time!
Barghest is openly lamenting in the hallway about how she can never be close to master or anyone else she loves bc of her bestiary nature and how she wishes she could keep herself in check. Scathach hears this and goes "Say no more" and puts her in a collar leash and muzzle. She's trained dogs before
Gudako tries her hardest to be Titania for Oberon. Oberon has Opinions about this. (I'll leave it to the prompt filler if these opinions are Positive, Negative, or Mixed.)
What started as a tiny fight "for charity" between Hektor and Achilles soon turns brutal as Achilles starts to truly want to kill Hektor. Paris, Manricardo, Alexander, and even Penth try to step in to stop him
Some asshole tries to threaten Guda only for them to reply and I quote "I'm not scared of Death, we have Tea on the weekends" Smash cut to them actually having tea with King Hassan, Eresh and Shiki. Whether Guda got hurt or not by the threatener ill leave up to the author.
How did Mel get access to Nemos aircraft carrier? Mysteriously kiss-covered Nemos refuse to answer (Note: all of em are adults)
Fun fact: Sastoria's NP is most effective against Summer Hokusai as she is both Chaotic, Divine, and a Threat to Humanity. Sooooo one-sided jealousy where Sastoria hates Saber Hokusai and Hokusai can't figure out why
Because I don't think we'll see him this summer. What summer side adventure is Kadoc doing? Who with him is you to the author.
Melusine's dragon nature means she likes building a hoards of all the things precious to her. now that she feels comfortable in Chaldea she can't help but gather all the people she likes to cuddle together with in bed with. Who ends up in her cuddle pile is up to y'all
Vlad is talked into going on a boat ride to relax. Everyone on the boat is very uncomfortable with this
Anything involving Ritsuka having extreme mommy issues
so Chloe's whole... thing... is "justified" in-universe as she needs magic to stay stable, so she gets it by doing... that. Ergo, I want to see something where she's summoned in Chaldea and thus hooked up to a stable magic supply, so she doesn't have to do that anymore and gets to actually Process and maybe just Be A Kid instead.
Other
I kinda just wanna say “Galehaut” and watch what the Fate fandom does with the idea of the half-giant king that only didn’t overthrow Camelot because he wanted to bone Lancelot. So I will.
Kinks are known to suddenly appear and develop with age, so: Older version of a servant helping unlock a kink for their younger self
can we get some consensual hypnokink content, perhaps? maybe someone has a kink for being hypnotized and wants so badly to hand over control for a little bit, or they're nervous about performing well during sex and just want to be more assured in themselves! how and why it's done is up to the author/artist as well as the characters, so long as there is consent established!
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