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tanlorin Ā· 21 days ago
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"The son of an artisan my mother knew. He was soft. Sweet. For a moment, I think I convinced myself I could be normal, like everyone else. I'm glad I grew out of it."
Tanlorin's reaction when you take them to Alinor.
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anghraine Ā· 8 years ago
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Having been wowed by your fanfic ("wandering inside this night" holds a special place in my RO heart), I'm curious: what is your writing/editing process like?
Oh, thank you!
My writing process really varies depending on what Iā€™m doing, but I can explain it in terms of wandering inside this night.
Itā€™s long and rambly, so you can scroll down for a very concise tl;dr version of The Process.
1. Eureka!
I pretty much always start out with 1) a vague sense of something I want to write about, and I sort of mentally fish around until I land on an idea, or 2) an idea pops into my head, or 3) some combination of both.
The last two are the most common for meā€”I have more ideas than I could ever write. With wandering, it was definitely that way.Ā 
I was hollering into my tags about the Cassian-Leia parallels pretty early, which ā€¦ Jyn-Han is obvious, but I felt like the Cassian-Leia ones went relatively unnoticed but were probably more profound. And as spies in the ragtag ANH-era Rebellion, itā€™s more than possible that theyā€™d know each other; Iā€™d made babbling posts, but I really wanted to do something with it. So I sketched out a backstory in until the last chance is spent, but I still wanted more, and also to get into Han-Jyn at the same time, and also justā€”have something fun! And suddenly (I was actually at a Trans-Siberian Orchestra concert, lol) the idea popped into my head of jumping to the Han/Leia meltdown of 1980 with established relationship Jyn/Cassian.
2. Percolation
This is particularly important for longer fic (or any long-form writing, really), but it helps with shorter things, too. Itā€™s where youā€™re not actively working to figure out details or more ideas, much less writing, just passively letting your mind wander. Itā€™s best if youā€™re actually doing something elseā€”something that doesnā€™t take much attention, but enough that you canā€™t completely focus on your thoughts, like showering or washing dishes or something.
When something does come to mind, I scribble it down (or stick it in a doc in some form that will hopefully make sense to me later). Sometimes itā€™ll be scraps of dialogue, or a phrase I want to make sure gets in somewhere, or a plot-point, just anything that pops up. Ideally, though, I donā€™t write anything beyond thatā€”just note down anything I might forget and let my ideas develop freely.Ā 
Normally, Iā€™d only do so much of that with something like wanderingĀ (fairly short, fairly light). But I ended up snowed in with my extended family, where I was both bored and unable to sit down and write. So Iā€™m sitting there entertaining myself by imagining Jyn and Han, drinking buddies, and how thatā€™d work with the Cassian-Leia brotp of ruthless idealism (Han would be jealous!), and just having that percolating in my head while I read fic and let stray thoughts pass through my mind. (ā€˜Okay but Cassian would fucking hate Hanā€™ being uppermost among them, lol)
3. Brainstorming/Outline
At this point, I try to pin down the free-floating ideas and/or organize what scraps I have into something coherent. With something longer, like ad astra, I generally do a pretty traditional outlineā€”decide what the story is specifically going to cover, and where the things Iā€™ve actually written fit with that, and whatā€™s going to go in the spaces between.
Itā€™s not classroom-style brainstorming; I usually brainstorm ideas by trying to put together an outline. Iā€™ll be ā€œokay, I want to start with something like that shot of Jyn on the platform with an Imperial ship at the end, but itā€™s Bodhiā€ and ā€œthey get sucked into the Death Star and Jyn exploits Cassianā€™s injuries to get inā€ and then I sit down and figure out how Iā€™m going to get from one to the other.Ā ā€œOkay, soā€”thereā€™s no way they can actually get Kaytoo, but maybe somethingā€”yeah, she just up and grabs his dismembered head l o l, okay, and thereā€™s the jump into the ship which rattles Cassian further, and sheā€™d try to treat him with whatever supplies are available, and weā€™d have Bodhi trying to get out without being shot down, and maybe I can work in the your father would have been proud of you line, and Jyn goes to check on Bodhi and they see the Death Star andā€¦ā€
Also, it helps a ton to actually talk ideas over with someone else. With me, itā€™s generally @steinbecksā€‹ā€”not some strictĀ ā€˜this, then this, then this, tell me what you thinkā€™, butĀ ā€˜I had this ideaā€™ and ā€˜OK BUT IMAGINE IFā€™ and ā€˜haha yeah exactlyā€™ andĀ ā€˜shit youā€™re right they do change outfitsā€™ etc.Ā 
4) Drafting (The Big One)
Ideally, I only get to this after nailing down an outline or at least getting a lot figured out in chats/notes to myself. Thatā€™s what I did for pretty much all my most successful longficsā€”First Impressions (f!Darcy/m!Elizabeth), Season of Courtship (Darcy and Elizabethā€™s engagement), we get dark, only to shine (AU of The Borgias that moves the canon pairing getting together from S3 to S1), and now ad astra. It helps a TON if you have trouble with discipline and direction, as I do, because you can always go back to it and figure out where you need to be headed when youā€™re muddled/uninspired, even if some details change along the way. (They always do, for me.)
I did some of that with wandering, but ā€¦ I was snowed-in, lol, and finally everyone had gone to sleep and my head was full of ideas. So I laid down with my laptop and just dove right in with the only clear line I had in mind:Ā 
Han Solo once had apleasant conversation with Cassian Andor.
Just once.
That was where I planned it to begin! The actual beginning came later, because I very quickly ran into a problemā€”the sentence worked to jump into exposition, not an actual scene. And with the exposition, I needed to introduceĀ 1) Cassianā€™s hatred of Han, 2) Hanā€™s lesser but firm dislike, 3) Cassian and Leiaā€™s history together as spies, 4) Hanā€™s brief and half-hearted attempt to suck up, 5) Jyn and Cassian being married, 6) Hanā€™s friendship with Jyn, 7) Hanā€™s jealousy as contrasted to Cassian and Jynā€™s mutual trust, etc. Yikes.
So I kept getting mired down in explanations and flashbacks (I actually wrote the scene where Jyn drunkenly complains about finding something for Cassianā€™s birthday, lol) that slowed it down. And I wasnā€™t really happy with anythingā€”I constantly niggled at sentences and moved things around and rephrased and it just didnā€™t work right. I actually have the document I worked in (I didnā€™t have Internet at the time), so you can see this sort of intermediate stage:
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I niggled with it for the rest of the vacation, then it hit me that the issue was that starting a fic with exposition was the real problem. Starting with ESB-era Han just being ESB-era Han could let me work the exposition section in, and without the pressure of it being the opening section I could keep it to a tangential aside and move the jealousy around and so forth. And from there I could just leap to the canon scene with bonus Cassian-Leia shared indignation, and impulsively I added Kaytoo at the end.Ā 
Moral of the story: if you keep trying to make something work and it just wonā€™t, thereā€™s probably something deeper going on. Take a step back and figure out why itā€™s not working, and often youā€™ll be able to correct course. Once I tacked in that littleĀ ā€˜Han sulksā€™ section at the beginning, it all fell together easily.Ā 
5) Revising!
You can probably guess from #4 that I do a lot of this as I write rather than after I write. Thatā€™s true, to an extent.
It can be a very ā€¦ I wouldnā€™t say discouraging, but sluggish way to write, because you end up struggling over phrases you might not even keep in the end. I genuinely think itā€™s best to at least try to restrain the impulse to polish everything, but at the same time, there are some of us who genuinely canā€™t keep going if the current section isnā€™t working (again, see #4!). So I allow myself a certain amount of freedom in polishing-as-I-go, while restraining the impulse to do anything more substantial. The single best way of doing this is sprintingā€”writing in short, timed bursts with little to no editing, ideally with a partner that you check in with. (Again, I generally do this with @steinbecksā€‹.)
However, even if you edit as you go and turn out pretty clean drafts, you should still revise at the end. What I generally do is, first of all, just quickly re-read. The writing process is a lot slower than the reading one, and itā€™s easy to get so focused on particular passages or sections that you lose sight of how itā€™s working as a whole. So that quick read-through is a way to back up and see how itā€™s holding together. Itā€™s best if you give yourself a break before you do thisā€”a day or two at least, to get your mind out of the writing mode and look at it with relatively fresh eyes.Ā 
(I will say that I almost never wait. But I doĀ pretty much always end up editing chapters yet again in the first couple of days after Iā€™ve posted them. Sometimes itā€™s contuinity, sometimes a passage that isnā€™t working quite the way I thought, whatever. Thereā€™s always something. Itā€™s why the chapters I post at Dreamwidth are generally cleaner than the ones at Tumblr, which are cleaner than the first versions posted at AO3.)
However you do that read-through, the most important for me is the next one. At this point, I read the whole fic/chapter/essay/whatever from start to finishā€”out loud. In fact, if itā€™s possible, Iā€™ll do a full-on dramatic reading. By reading aloud, you can catch things like typos that your mind silently corrects for your eyes, but also itā€™s easier to notice sentence-level problems like repeated words/phrases and unvaried sentence structure. If something makes me cringe when I read it aloud, I cut it or rewrite. If saying it aloud makes it sound wrong for the character, it probably is wrong for the character. Sometimes I do the dramatic reading revision two or three times.
And then I either post or print!
The short version:
1) I get an idea, 2) I let the ideas develop without thinking too hard about them, 3) I nail down and think up specific ideas, mostly through chat and/or outlines, 4) I plow through a draft, rearranging/adding material if things just arenā€™t working, and 5) I revise, once with a quick re-read of the whole thing, and then again by slowly reading it aloud to myself to catch problems with (primarily) mechanics, voice, and word choice.
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