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what is it about tim that makes people want to beat him up as soon as they meet him irl
#jason beats the shit out of him#damian tries to kill him#stephanie hits him with a brick#they all meet tim and immediately go yikes what the fuck#gotta beat this guy up#damn#tim drake#red robin#jason todd#red hood#stephanie brown#spoiler#damian wayne#robin#batman
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Let’s amp up the “Jason says ow and the batfam thinks he must be gravely injured” headcanon.
Jason calls Bruce or Dick for fun and says nothing but “goodbye” before hanging up (maybe it’s a dare by Roy who TOTALLY suspects the reaction Jay is gonna get).
Ten minutes late the entire Justice League is scouring Gotham, on the hunt for Jason.
#someone is stuck on Bat-sitting duty#meaning someone is tasked to watch Batman in case he tries to skimp on his no kill rule again#person in question is hyper aware Bruce definitely has ten different ways to taoe them down instantly#it’s not a fun situation for anybody#except for Jason#who’s getting ready for bed totally convinced all he’s gonna get the next day is an annoyed bat lecture#meanwhile every JLA member and their sidekick on the hunt for red hood#hoping they’ll find him (alive!) before they have a rogue batman on their hands#or a rogue batfamily in general#the rest aren’t looking too sane right now either oops#jason todd#batfamily#dick grayson#batfam#robin#bruce wayne#ghost talks#tim drake#red hood#batman#batdad#Damian wayne#alfred pennyworth
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Tim has a school assignment where he has to write a paper about what he’d say if he could talk to a younger version of himself.
And anyways, Bruce gets a call from a very concerned teacher because Tim wrote that he’d tell his younger self to, “Kill me. Kill me with fire. I’m probably evil and I’m gonna try to kill you so kill me first.”
#Tim ‘never told Bruce about traveling to the future’ Drake: And it’s the truth#Damian ‘Evil future Tim tried to kill my best friend’ Wayne: We should kill him now actually#Jason ‘just entered the room’ Todd: who are we killing?#Tim says that Bruce should’ve just let him patrol instead of writing that paper and Bruce is starting to think he’s right#tim drake#Bruce Wayne#batfam
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Something something tim drake who has never been put first by anyone he's ever loved in his life being told he is not only kon's first but also his only robin..... for the only thing that kon cared abt to be the fact that tim felt wanted and treasured and important to someone....., that he didn't give a damn about how other ppl might feel about what he just said....... esp knowing that he literally had his home and title and dad ripped from him in the last year......
#timkon#kontim#tim drake#kon el#timothy drake#robin#red robin#teen titans comics#dc comics#conner kent#much as im all for socializing damian#sending him to the titans was some bs#theyre all like 5 years older than him at least first of all so they r not peers in that sense#like a 17 year old is not gonna be pals w a 12 year old#second they r all tims friends. who he just recently tried to kill. so thats a FANTASTIC first impression#and he doesnt respect people so cassie being lead? that was gonna go great#rose and him got on p ok but even she's closer to tim#no wonder he was like no thanks#but beyond all of that imagine the message that sent to tim???#'i dont want u and i'll bet ur friends r cool with you being replaced too'#i was so glad kon said smn tbh#superboy
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I've had a brainworm for a few days now so here me out.
After an accidental reveal gone wrong, Danny is forced to flee the country with both his parents and the giw after him. While he's trying to find some place internationally to settle down, he comes across a secluded complex.
Said complex happens to have access to an ectoplasm run off which Danny is in desperate need of. Though it has been corrupted by whatever the people of the complex have been doing to it, that's no problem for Danny as he can easily purify the portion he takes in to survive.
Deciding this is the perfect place to live off the grid, Danny sets to work figuring out how to blend in. It turns out that's the easy part. With his temporary stint as a ninja, his training with his black belt mom, and his general ghost physiology, he fits in pretty well.
He fits in so well in fact that he is told he'll be training someone one of the head bosses has their eye on. A kid his age.
Basically what follows is Danny accidentally ruining Talia's plans for Jason by unconsciously purifying his corruption and just talking him through his emotions. When Jason gets back to Gotham, he returns without a clouded mentally and realizes just how much Bruce went through after his death.
Instead of unleashing his complicated plan, he quietly takes over the underworld. He loves his father but also knows there are situations in Gotham that require a more firm hand. Jason decides to be a firm hand in his dad's place.
(I imagine he is only revealed on accident yet his reunion with his family is just as dramatic as Under the Red Hood. Tbh it probably has something to do with the joker suddenly going missing.)
Meanwhile back at the League of Assassins, Talia is impressed by Jason's training and is under the impression that his failure in Gotham is due to him getting cold feet at the last second so she puts Danny in charge of Damian's training.
Danny this time takes a more conscious role in ruining the league's brainwashing by challenging Damian's beliefs and teaching him he should use his weapons to protect, not to harm. By the time Damian gets to Wayne Manor, there is significantly less deprogramming that needs to be done.
#dp x dc#dc x dp#winter's tales#hyper prompts#this idea has had me by the choke hold for a couple of days now#i imagine after a time jason and damian realize they both had the same instructor#and decide it's only a matter of time before the league finds out about what he did and tries to kill him#so they go to try to rescue him#only for danny to be like 'nah it's much more dangerous for me out there than it is in here'#cue panic#because what does that mean!?#who is threatening their teacher?
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Demon Twin AU but Damian has been seeing ghostly visages of his twin slowly growing up with him
So, the Danny Damian Twin AUs! They're fun!
But what if, when Danny fakes his death/is killed, he actually dies and becomes a halfa as a kid? Danny because he is Danny, has the great idea to live a double life upon figuring out he can be both ghost and human!
As a human, he goes to America where he gets adopted by the Fentons and live as Danny Fenton
I headcanon that halfas are very adaptable and basically get powers according to their needs. So he figures out how to portal.
As a ghost, Danny stays around Damian and helps him out. Sometimes he slips up and Damian sees Phantom right next to him.
To Damian, this is the Pit Ghost of his brother who has come back to haunt him, made even worse when he realizes that Danny is also growing exactly at the rate he was despite being dead. He thinks that Dannys last wish was to grow up with Damian that's why he's doing that.
It gets even worse for Damian when he realizes the ghost of his dead twin brother has been helping him invisibly the entire time and it's possible that that's why Danny's staying around
Now, I need you to picture one of the Batfam seeing Danny
Imagine them asking him about it
Imagine Damian having to explain that the ghost of his dead brother sometimes accompanies him
Of course, on Danny's human side of things, the Fentons finally made that portal and he has to take up being a hero in Amity Park. Meaning he has less time to look over Damian.
What does this look like to Damian?
It looks like his brother is fading away slowly because Danny's decided Damian is now in a safe place
This all comes to a head when Danny disappears for a long time, long enough for Damian to think he's gone gone
And then Danny comes back and he's injured or maybe he has a baby Ellie and for the first time in years actually talks to Damian and asks for help
#dpdc#dcdp#danny fenton#damian wayne#demon twins#also think of how bruce would react to the fact that the ghost of his dead son has been haunting his other son#imagine talia didnt know either#because damian has been keeping it secret#so they dont take away the only thing left of his brother#why did danny not talk to damian all those years?#it could be the angst of damian killing him#or it could be the crack of danny never realizing what it looked like from damians pov#the reason i added deaged ellie possibility is because i want to see damian panicking at the idea that his brother became a teen dad#did they receive sex ed before danny died??#damian having no idea how ghost sex works tries to figure it out by subtly interrogating danny#the answers make everything worse#dpxdc#dcxdp
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If Damian ever annoys Tim too much he will look him dead in the eyes and remind him that he Can And Will Rock His Whole Shit
Tim: if you don't stop I will call Talia and tell her that you have taken in multiple feral raccoons and named them after her family members
Damian: fear.jpg
#damian wayne#tim drake#batfam#incorrect batbros#incorrect batfamily quotes#yes damian can try to kill him but if that brat EVER tries to mess with his coffee he's fuckin DEAD
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Stillborn? No, still born au -- Dani Phantom! Clone girl herself. :]
She can't exist in this au. And it's not that I don't want to add her -- although I'll be blunt, I don't, I'll be the first to admit that I think she's more often than not nothing more than a narrative deadweight used to prop up Danny and I don't like adding characters as props -- but her existence quite literally goes against and muddies the Vlad and Danny dynamic I have for this au. Ellie's existence in canon itself states that she was created -- and Danny's other clones too -- because Vlad gave up on trying to convert him to his side and decided to just make a son instead.
Something that just, doesn't happen in the stillborn-still born au. See, for folks who are only just hearing about this au or didn't see my post about Vlad in this au, he and Danny have a complicated love-hate relationship where they mutually want to adopt each other, but their morals and way of doing things -- mainly Vlad's insistence on getting revenge against the Fentons -- gets in the way of them being able to do that in full.
Vlad knows Danny wants him to adopt him, and is only fighting him on it because he refuses to let Vlad kill the Fentons for essentially killing the both of them. He's succeed in 50% of his goal. Canon Vlad never even made it to 1%. With that in mind, stillborn Vlad has no reason and sees no reason to clone Danny, he has his son. He just needs to convince him to let him avenge them both.
Dani simply has no place in the stillborn-still born au. And in fact, if Vlad did decide to clone Danny -- for whatever reason, -- it would damage his relationship with Danny damn near beyond repair. That's because Danny would view it the same way he views Damian's existence; as a replacement for himself. He would become beyond furious and hurt, and not for the typical 'I can't believe you cloned me, you creep!' reason, but for a 'I can't believe you cloned me, you said I was your son!' reason.
I am not pulling any punches here when I say Danny wants Vlad to be his dad just as much as Vlad wants Danny to be his son, there's just a lot of factors getting in the way. They are, as the french say, ✨mentally unwell.✨ Danny has a ton of abandonment and trust issues due to his experiences in foster care. He would immediately become jealous, insecure, and incredibly furious and hurt. He'd despise her on principal and want nothing to do with her, or Vlad for that matter. He'd just fucking haaate her. It's not her fault she was made but Danny doesn't really care, he's lashing out and pushing people away because he's been betrayed yet again.
The only way they could get along or for Danny to actually like her in any capacity would be if it was his idea to clone himself. Which is like, kinda obvious but considering most clone plots tend to be non-consensual it's kinda gotta be said. He has to have a hand in creating her, that's the only way I can see him liking her in any way. Or if someone other than Vlad created her. If Vlad clones him though, all bets are off the table and he'll despise her.
TL;DR: Dani can't exist in this au because she goes against the narrative I've got for the two most fucked up half-dead could-be-father-son duo in existence, but if she did exist Danny would despise her.
#dpxdc#danny fenton is not the ghost king#dpxdc crossover#dp x dc#dp x dc crossover#dpdc#danyal al ghul au#stillborn? no still born au#stillborn danny#danyal al ghul#dpxdc au#vlad masters#dani phantom#he's what the french like to call 'emotionally unstable' <3. vlad is a possessive parent thats obvi but DANNY is a possessive son#he is SO not mentally okay. he's a good kid! but he's also mentally unwell and incredibly traumatized <3#he doesnt play nice with his biological siblings unfortunately :((#danny as a default pushes his people away from him and flinches away from most conventional affection bc he thinks its insincere#and it takes a while to convince him that yes you do actually care about his well being and you're not going to hurt him.#he really is just a traumatized cat that you have to coax into letting you pet it. he clings onto the people he trusts like a terrified cat#have you ever tried pulling a cat down from something when their claws are dug into it and the only way you can get them down is by hurting#them a little because you have to yank them off? yeah that's danny.#if dani DID exist and Danny and her DID get along she'd spend a lot of time also convincing him to let vlad kill the fentons. danny keeps#trying to tell her murder is wrong. dani just says 'but they got you and dad killed' and unfortunately she is as stubborn as her brother an#dad. she gets to be a little evil. as a treat <3. she also doesnt like damian but that's because she too is a possessive sister#who doesnt like to share and damian already *has* a bunch of older brothers. he doesn't *need* danny. and also he's a replacement#we love complicated family dynamics <33 THE most dysfunctional half-dead not-family ever.
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Vlad did not expect this shit at all what the fuck???
You know those twin/sibling aus with Danny and Damian? That but in Vlad's POV
CMON I feel like it's underutilized, given how Vlad has an obsession with wanting Danny to be his son when he ISNT greedy for power and control.
Like Vlad Masters takes pride in thinking that he knows everything about Danny like the creepy bastard he is.
So imagine when shit hits the fan as always with these AUs; Vlad expects Danny to come crawling to him or at least last a few days until he gives up and finally goes to Vlad for help.
But then Danny disappears, and Vlad doesn't know where the brat is. Time passes by, and no matter what, Daniel hasn't come out of whatever hidey hole he is. That is until PLOT HAPPENS AGAIN- Vlad gets a hint that Daniel is in GOTHAM of all places- so he goes!
And most of the time when Vlad finally shows up in these aus, it's of course at the Gotham Gala–time to start shit up!
There he finds Daniel with Bruce Wayne of all people, hanging out with that Wayne's youngest child. Where Vlad sees the eerie similarities with Daniel and the Wayne Boy, minus the eyes and what-not. He sees Daniel staying close to Brucie and his son, that will not do.
This would give Vlad the opportunity to finally mold the brat into his perfect son, and even get Maddie in the process!
But of course, with these aus, Vlad doesn't get Daniel, so Vlad is pissed because how dare the brat choose Wayne over Vlad Masters???
Why would the boy choose Brucie Wayne over coming with Vlad?! Over coming home?! Over his parents?! Vlad would understand, even be elated since usually in these types of aus, Danny has a falling out with the Fentons or it just isn't safe at home anymore.
But after all, this is Vlad's POV: he'd be pissed and confused on WHY Daniel would dare choose Wayne over him, he could support Daniel just fine, he knows what the boy needs.
But the way that angry brat glared murderously at Vlad; and Daniel doesn't do anything to get the Wayne boy to stop, in fact he seems concerned for the other boy who's glare would kill. Bruce Wayne even seemed smart enough to get Daniel and his son away with a smile, and Daniel is letting them.
These people shouldn't be this protective of the boy, given that somehow Daniel ended up in their care. But the way, Danny Fenton seems to trust them enough to know that he could travel with them willingly...
But WHY would he???
#Basically: my attempt at writing with Vlad of all people#If i was a good writer I would've made this more detailed smh 😭#i tried to keep this vague as possible while also not if you get what i mean 😭#i really LOVE these types of prompts-esp the prompts where danny was a completely different person back then too in the league#he knows what its like to end a life so now he chooses mercy despite what Vlad and others do to him#and while Vlad ofc doesnt know the full context only bits and pieces#he does know theres something 'wrong' that the image he wants of danny isnt real if Danny is with the Waynes#meanwhile for Danny: just your average twin/sib au making up for lost time type shi#idk i just really like the idea of how Vlad would react in these types of works usually its the fentons + danny's friends or batfam#Vlad is confused and out of the truth loop as he should let him suffer realizing that Danny really WOULD'VE killed him early on as toddler#dc x dp#dp x dc#dp x dc prompt#dc x dp crossover#danyal al ghul#danny fenton#vlad masters#batpham#danny and damian are siblings#danny and damian are twins#danny phantom#batman
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Okay here me out:
dp x dc writing prompt where Dani ends up exhausted (and maybe a little weak from traveling for so long, maybe she got in a fight and is hurt) and finding shelter in a nice barn with a friendly cow in it, curling up in a dark corner to rest and recover where she’s pretty sure no one will notice her until she's ready to take off again.
And because her form since stabilizing has always been a bit prone to sliding away from more human and into the more eldritch when she's tired, she appears less like a human girl and more like an more humanoid-ish shadow creature. Emphasis on the creature.
Damian is a responsible pet owner, he makes sure to go around feeding everyone first thing in the mornings, even on weekends, and because of his training he has a sharp eye for things that aren't quit right, so he spots this...thing curled up in the corner immediately.
His first instinct is to fight it - it managed to get past all their security measures, it's an unknown, it could be a danger to his family, or worse BatCow - but then Alfred-the-cat jumps down from the hay bail the creature is curled up behind and lands on it. The creature gives a pained little noise, but doesn't strike out or hurt the cat, just turns glowing green eyes up at it and meets Alfred-the-cat's little mrrp with one of it's own and buts it's shadowy head against the cat.
And Damian, maybe a little more tired then usual up so early after a long night fighting rogues as Robin, just comes to the conclusion that - while obviously a supernatural creature of some variety- it clearly has been adopted by Alfred-the-cat as a kitten and equally adopted the cat back as it's caretaker. And separating them would be detrimental to both.
So obviously this is just another pet for him to take care of, especially when he realizes that Bruce-the-shadow (it only seemed appropriate since Alfred-the-cat adopted the creature) is injured.
Dani is a little too out of it to fully get what's going on at first, just vaguely aware of someone that looks a bit like Danny saying something to her and trying to check on her injuries - he must have found her, one of the local ghosts must have told him what was going on - so she just lets him because she knows how he gets.
The rest of the family thinks it's a bit weird that Damian has been spending so much more time down at the barn recently, but hey it keeps him from getting into fights with his siblings and they all get the need for some alone time now and then.
Things only start getting weird when Dani starts realizing it's not her original/brother/father taking care of her but instead some kid her age, but by then Damian has started talking to Bruce-the-Shadow the same way he does his other pets, sharing the things he feels he can’t share with anyone else, and she sees that same loneliness and unwillingness to trust that she feels and really with the bruises the kid keeps showing up with she worries okay?
So she sticks around, even after she's all healed and could take off again, keeping her form shadowy and doing her best to keep an eye on her new...friend? Friend.
Cut to Damian ending up in some bad fight and Dani as Bruce-the-shadow showing up to save him and BatFam is concerned™️ about what the fuck that thing is, and Danny getting worried because he hasn't seen his clone/sister/daughter in a bit and she usually at least checks in by now and deciding to go look for her.
#dc x dp#dp x dc#batfam#writing prompt#damian wayne#danielle fenton#dani fenton#danny fenton#eldritch dani#alfred the cat#Elle starts hiding in Damian's shadow to try and protect him throughout the day#the robin thing is a surprise but hey she gets the vigilante thing even if that's more Danny's thing then hers#Damian is delighted that his new pet is so well behaved and seems to understand him so well#he's 90% percent certain Bruce-the-shadow is a Lazarus pit demon#and excited to have so easily tamed and domesticated it#the first time someone tries to kill Robin while Elle is there ends up getting eaten by a furious eldritch abomination and spat out again#Damian is so proud#Bruce is PANICKING
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These fanon Tim Drake takes/fanfictions that paint him as the ultimate victim during the Morrrison era were always annoying, but if you're looking for a character to write fix it fanfictions about because they got abandoned by their family when they went through a lot of losses and lost themselves in the process, ran away from everything and only had the batfamily try to bring them back home ages after they had already run away and only after first blaming the kid and then not prioritizing bringing that kid back, then Damian from 2018 to 2020 is right there?
Where are my 1000+ fanfictions about that?
#damian wayne#seriously#nobody in the batfamily gave a fuck when Damian stopped living with Bruce to be with his Teen Titans team#Damian losing Dick then Jon and then Alfred got retconned in as his reasons to turn dark only at the end of the book#when DC finally realized that maybe turning Damian into their next big bad/baby Hitler is freaking stupid#after city of bane they tried to blame Alfred's death on Damian even though he had just been following orders#Alfred had also been absolutely not been helpful during their last conversation cob and compared him to Ra's#All these things people project onto Tim for some reason actually happened to Damian and I don't see tons of fanfictions about that#on top of that the only character that ever apologized for letting him down was Bruce but in ways that pretty much still blamed Damian#I'm sorry you felt the need to save Alfred alone#you asshole ordered him to become a hostage and told him Alfred had gotten away. Damian didn't try to save Alfred alone.#I never blamed you for Alfred's death. Yes you did you refused to comfort him when he ran away crying from the wake#and a hallucination of Alfred confirmed you held him failing to stop Bane from killing Alfred against him#like what the hell#all the mistreatment people think Tim went through happened to Damian yet nobody cares
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Prompt:
It’s not that Jason forgot, per se.
But between smuggling a toddler out of the League of Assassins, trekking halfway across the world, and finding a suitable hiding place that’s also child friendly… well, it kind of slipped his mind that he’s supposed to be… dead.
Something that comes back to bite him in the ass when he takes Dami out for some ice cream and just so happens to run into non other than Brucie-fucking-Wayne
#look I’ve found a new fave trope and it’s Brucie Wayne having to keep up his act while internally LOSING HIS SHIT#Jason isn’t very into the whole revenge thing here#his mind is 85 parts ‘keep Dami safe’ 5 parts ‘kill joker asap’ and 10 parts ‘avoid bats at any cost’#Jason doesn’t know who Damian’s father is#dealer’s choice if Jason establishes himself as Dami’s dad or older brother#his build certainly makes him look old enough#if you don’t look at his baby face lol#Jason runs into Brucie and goes straight into survival mode#Damian who is very observant for a toddler immediately clocks Brucie as THREAT based on Jason’s reaction#Brucie blue screens and desperately tries not to lose Jason in the crowd#jason is absolutely trying to lose Brucie in the crowd#while clutching Damian like his life depends on it#for all he knows it does#the visceral terror that your pseudo dad will take away your little brother/baby#Bruce who just wants to know if he’s hallucinating again: W A I T#jason who is terrified of being put in Arkham for killing people: no FUCKING WAY#hm maybe Jason plays the ‘I’m not Jason’ game again#it’s not gonna hold for long#but Bruce absolutely thinks that Damian is Jason’s bio child for a while and he’s on the WARPATH#Jason was sixteen when he died and never showed any interest in dating so literally every red flag is waving in brucie’s mind simultaneousl#or maybe Jason manages to get away and all Brucie is left with is the memory of his supposedly dead son#running away from him#and clutching a tiny kid#prompts#jason todd#batfamily#Damian wayne#batdad#brucie wayne
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DPXDC Prompt #109
what if Danny was a failed Damian clone that miraculously survived. Danny who had memory loss when he was first found by Fentons at the age of 7. Unfortunately the Fentons couldn’t have any children, Jazz was also adopted as her family couldn’t keep her as they couldn’t afford it at the time. When they visit Gotham for a science convention everything changes.
#dp x dc prompt#danny fenton#danny phantom#dp x dc#dc x dp#poor danny#damian wayne#Barbra and Jazz are twins#danny is a clone#Damian definitely tries to kill him at first#Danny just runs away using his powers not sure why#Barbra and Jazz look alike but I haven’t seen one where they’re twins so I think that’d be an interesting dynamic#my asks are open#If I haven’t lost it yet I will soon
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I miss them so bad (Dick and Damian)
#ramblings of a lunatic#dc comics#damian wayne#dick grayson#ITS JUST NOT THE SAME MAN#idk i was reading nightwing must die (again...) bc i was in a funk and saw another post saying how fans exaggerate the closeness btwn them#and on the one hand i get it. there is a very rosy portrayal of their relationship you'll come across in fanon#and they weren't very close at the beginning of their relationship#but man. reading Nightwing must die again was like#YES they fight. damian instigates it and while dick tries to exercise patience he does fight back/lash out on occasion#but despite all that it's still emphasized how important the two are to each other#when dick is forced to picture a future where he's lost his way he pictures damian being the one to bring him back#not necessarily bc damian is his favorite person on the planet but bc he gave damian robin. for a lot of practical reasons-#-but also bc how far damians come is (i think at least based on this arc) a testament to dick that hes doing Something right#both as a hero/person#damian is more than just a burden saddled on him (although there's an element of that in their batman and robin run)#he's also a last remaining connection to bruce when he's gone (remembering where he comes from) AND he's training damian+#-his own way! with a dash of tough love and workaholic spirit inherited but also a lot of patience and focus on being More than the darkness#idc what ppl say nightwing must die makes sense for these two. its a retcon but one that works imo#that dick buried his head in the sand about how much damian meant/the responsibility he had to him bc it was a commitment he was afraid of#and how damian ultimately was a point of maturation for dick even if he went back to being Nightwing#they were SO goddamn close and now they're still close but only in ways that are implied#and their bond is deemphasized in comparison to each others bond w/ say bruce. which i think is a shame#it was a wrinkle! a fun wrinkle that the batfamily had that in some ways dick understood damian better than Bruce-#-even if he didn't feel like he could handle the responsibility of raising him full time#it kills me that bc of the n52 we never got the handover of the batman mantle (and damian) from dick to bruce#next nightwing writer...include a flashback to that moment AND have damian appear in the book in present....AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!#anyway. dick is damians brother but also damian a little bit imprinted on him like a baby duck and its rubbed off on dick#they're partners they're mentor mentee but most importantly they were batman and robin. and they were the greatest#NOT bc it was all peaches and roses but bc they cared for each other exponentially despite all that
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Just saw a "hot take" where someone said jason's anger isn't justified?? That's not a hot take that's just wrong lmao. Oh murdered child who got resurrected and found out your death was so insignificant that nothing changed, how dare you feel angry about that? Like you can say whatever about jason's character, that he isn't some poor misunderstood baby and he's genuinely evil (which also, wrong) but how can you ignore everything in his story that you confidently admit his anger isn't justified? Am I the one in the wrong here or is this just an absolutely awful take, how is a fucking murder victim not justified in his anger? You can hate jason and all the woobifying but he absolutely has the right to be angry and to be an asshole about it.
#“people would not consider him a hero because he kills”#I would and I would cheer him on#also the argument that he doesn't protect kids he tried to kill tim mia damian blah blah is so old#is it even canon anymore or do you just want to justify your hate for a character#because you can't outright say you hate them for some reason#like don't make shit up#jason todd#red hood
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so obsessed with tim being forcibly made into a talon in revrob aus. like i was brainstorming ways to force tim to kill somehow because he has such a strong personal code that he wouldn’t, or he’d find some tricksy way around it, and one solution i got was just…. put him into a situation where he has literally no choice but to kill. make him into an unwilling talon. an owl sees baby tim on the rooftops talking with [robin]!damian and goes, oh, free baby talon.
#personal opinion but dick should’ve been approached to be an owl in canon not a talon#it’d make more sense w dick as b’s ward/oldest kid 👍#in revrob tim gets out & kills a premeditated number of owls to get them to stay off his back#so they’re in a standstill bc neither can move against the other. and then they try to kidnap baby!dick#i keep making tim a talon in revrob aus for some reason. have to exorcise the demon#damian & tim are like. vaguely friends. and then damian goes back to his mom & tim becomes [robin] and tim’s parents die#and damian comes back and is enraged bc tim has replaced him *& they were friends before* & tim’s a better partner for batman than he was#so he tries to kill tim. and tim (who was abt to tell them that his fake uncle is actually an owl) decides to deal w this himself#tim drake#dc#damian wayne#reverse robins#revrob
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