#but also scared for s6💀

[mytdpblog]

After binge watching the first 3 seasons I knew I had to read fics before I could watch the next few seasons, so I looked up a fic that I remember really enjoying and I found it!!!! and omg it's been the perfect read this week😭🫶

@raayllum @thethiefandtheairbender thank you for writing this fic, it's been my fuel for the last few days lol💜

[ardentpoop]

truly no worries abt the long post it is what I do here every day :) I also very much understand your need to elaborate as I can see sam is just as important a character to you as he is to me <3

you have lots of valid points esp what you mentioned in your tags about getting fed up with the dean favoritism across both the writer’s room and the audience - bc these respective biases kept feeding on each other as the show went on and we have that to thank for sam becoming so heartbreakingly small by the end of the show. which on the one hand, makes for an excellent abuse narrative. on the other hand I do very much completely understand how difficult it becomes for sam stans to sit through; there are many stretches of the show that feel physically agonizing to watch in chronological order and that I can only enjoy in retrospect or when I’m skipping around in subsequent rewatches without the full weight of the narrative (or its garish time-wasting tangents) pressing down on me. like tbh I was only able to mostly let go of my years-old dean haterism after I’d gotten out of the s4-s10 stretch of my rewatch because Jesus Christ. it’s harrowing.

also very sorry that I constantly have comebacks (💀💀💀) BUT I do want to challenge your perspective on dean a little based on the examples you raised, as someone who has always been passionate abt the brothers’ relationship and feels that only a very small percentage of the audience truly grasps how it works. like I genuinely do think dean is very compelling and effective as an abusive character - possibly the worst (complimentary) I’ve ever encountered given the shockingly biased narrative and the audience around it enabling all of his worst behavior in a way that I truly don’t think could ever happen quite like this again.

with that said:

most viewers who have issues with dean start to notice red flags somewhere btwn s4-s6, however I like to point out to people that dean very much did take on john’s role immediately after he died at the start of s2. tbh you can see the bones of who he will become as early on as s1 even, but the dean who ends conversations by hitting sam; who storms out and leaves sam to deal with his own grief alone because dean’s is the all-consuming priority; whose over-reliance on “violence and alcoholism” scares sam; who decides whether sam lives or sam dies because that is part of his job? that guy very much starts to emerge in s2. and I think it is fascinating to observe him transform into the man he is by the end of s4.

speaking of s4: this is one of those points in the series that the vast majority does not recognize for the absolute bloodbath that it is, because of the narrative framing. sure heaven is telling dean he’s supposed to stop sam, but dean doesn’t trust heaven. sure john told dean he might have to kill sam if he can’t “save” him, but dean was openly resisting that idea in s2, and furthermore john is dead and can no longer dictate dean’s actions. dean demonstrates by the end of the season (and later in s5) that his problem with s4 sam was never even the demon blood really; it was that sam was doing things on “his own terms” with ruby, without dean’s say-so. it was, like it always is, about control. dean outright stated in “when the levee breaks” that he would rather let sam die in the panic room than risk a permanent loss of control over him. “[if he dies,] then at least he dies human!” I recommend that everyone who doesn’t remember s4 being that bad rewatches it while paying close attention to the developments in samndean’s relationship and how they’re framed, because s4-s5 is by far one of the most appalling periods of the show in terms of the abuse that sam suffers that goes completely unrecognized (instead it is justified and made out to be what was Right for him!) by everyone around him. and of course it is all made worse by the audience swallowing the romanticized narrative framing uncritically.

re: jack - of course dean replicated his treatment of s4 sam with jack, and of course sam let him do it. dean doesn’t think he did anything wrong in s4! for the reasons you outlined above including others, he believes he was doing what was best to keep sam “safe,” and sam himself rewrites what dean/bobby/cas did to him in s4-s5 to be able to deal with the psychological strain, especially post-cage. In 13.03 “patience” sam implores dean “you saved me! so help me save [jack].” dean’s response? “you deserved to be saved; he doesn’t!” early s13 is a frankly stunning period of the show and I mean that in a good way! regardless of how intentional it is, it truly shines a harsh light on the cracks that the events of the previous seasons have left in each of the brothers’ psyches, and on the stunted mindsets that were always going to result from their dynamic only “working” at sam’s expense and with dean as the all-powerful infallible patriarch. It’s absolutely incredible to me and a uniquely awful (again, complimentary) portrait of the cycle of domestic violence.

I’ll stop here because I could go on about samndean forever which is why I’m stuck here again 10 years later lol BUT all this is simply to say that we wouldn’t have gotten an abuse victim as densely layered as sam if Not for the narrative’s and the audience’s myriad problems and for that I am thankful. It’s horrible. I could write twenty more essays about it.

@lawgirljess sorry for the dean bias accusation abwhsbbsbdbdbd the phrasing of that made me laugh

I tend to assume even sam enjoyers (as opposed to self-declared dean stans who also do this) who express a preference for early-seasons sam can’t connect with mid-to-late seasons sam because of the issues with the narrative… also makes me sad when people don’t tough it out for late-seasons sam because there is so much to uncover about him as a character if you hold on tight </3

ALSO while I’m talking about this it bugs me when people draw a line between early-seasons dean and late-seasons dean as if they are two totally different guys; the former likable and the latter not; as if the roots of dean’s behavior in the later seasons weren’t laid out in the early seasons if you know what to look for. there is a lot more nuance to dean than this fandom gives him credit for on any side - ironically enough given he (more accurately, the fandom’s patchwork version of him) is supposedly the favorite.

sorry I had some pent-up energy from looking at unrelated posts a little bit ago 💀

[heytherejulietx]

s6 is just so??? i always forget all the things they reveal and build up in it and i love it every time. but no i cried like too much when i rewatched god complex cause of that season </3

do it!!! ah after rewatching waters on mars i’ve been wanting to write a comfort fic cause ahhh i just want to hug this sad old spaceman way too much

of course!! aahhhh me too, im always so scared to show up in peoples asks even as an anon lmaoo

the s6 twists are some of the best holy shit. and it’s some of the peak river episodes too and i’m absolutely in love with her. i love how pretty much everything in the season connects in some way too. like it’s just amazing. i think my favourite episode of the season is a good man goes to war because it’s just amazing but the whole season is great. i know when i watch s7 i’m gonna cry like a baby so many times though omfg it’s so good but so sad

DUDE THAT EPISODE IS SO UNDERRATED TOO WHAT i forgot the plot of that episode when i rewatched it and by the end i was just blown away. like the eleventh doctor is my favourite, but the tenth doctor has some of the most powerful and shocking moments. when the ood showed up i was just gone. also if you write the fic please tag me in it!!!

no me too 💀 and then i get worried that i forgot to turn anon on as well LMAO

[maskthesimp]

I forgive basically every character for the shit they did (other than Gérard and Kate, because she was just a straight-up pedo and groomer, and he was a genocidal lunatic. And Sebastian, of course because duh), because they had some sort of reason. Whether it just be bad writing or an actual lore reason. But still, I'm so mad about her. I preferred her season 3, except for the way she treated Isaac. My poor boy has been traumatised enough! Also, the way he almost reacted more when she died than Scott did 💀

If I remember, Josh tried to kill him and Stiles on the roof of the hospital. Then, when the Chimaeras came back, Theo killed Josh for a second time, and then he killed Tracey for the first time to take their power after Deucalion told him how to.

To be fair, they were also victims. I liked Tracey as a character, but she was basically just...loco. idk what her issue was, but for some reason, she started making out with Theo right before he murdered her. Next to Josh's dead body might I add, after Theo got injured by the Dread Doctors when they tried to save Mason and failed miserably. Her character was all over the place. First, she was a scared teenager with night terrors, then she was suddenly a devoted chimaera with a thing for the guy who would later kill her for extra power. Her characterisation so confusing. She did 180s nearly more than Allison. Same for whatshername. Liam's ex-girlfriend.

Also, can we talk about how HE PUT SO MUCH WORK INTO THAT, AND IT JUST GOT TOSSED AWAY?? BRO NEARLY DIED PROTECTING HER THEN WENT TO FIND HER WHEN SHE CAME BACK TO LIFE, AND SHE JUST LEFT??? HE EVEN GOT HER TURNED INTO A REAL WEREWOLF TO SAVE HER LIFE! COME ON!

Bro, Liam, listen, ignore Hikari, and ignore whatever her name was. Find Theo. You'll be perfect together. Enemies to lovers. Take your little chimaera emo off the street please-

Also now that I think about it...wtf happened to Theo after s6? Did he keep living in his car? Where did he get money to survive? Did Stilinski help him out for the work he did for the police? He deserved so much better. He just got tossed aside TwT

okay so can we talk about how dirty they did theo??? not even the whole thiam thing (which totally should have happened, you can fight me on that).

but like the hellscape they sent him to?? like I know he killed people. but so did Peter. so did Chris. so did Jackson. and yeah Jackson in particular had extenuating circumstances. but you're telling me theo didn't?? like he was kidnapped, experimented on, and raised by literal sociopaths from the age of what?? 9?? he probably spent years trying to make friends with the other chimeras before they became failures and died!!

the Dread Doctors mess with people's minds and memories on MULTIPLE occasions and you expect me to believe that that little child maliciously pushed his big sister to her death?? for what?? no, I refuse. I refuse to believe that a nine year old child (in their right mind) decided to murder their older sibling. no. either the Dread Doctors fucked with him like they did Tracy or they killed Tara and made Theo believe it was him.

I also refuse to believe that that was actually Tara that dragged him to hell. no matter what the dessert fox ladies said. I firmly and immovably believe that that was Theo's own creation. that his subconscious believed that this is what he deserved for what happened to Tara. that his own guilt was literally trying to rip him apart.

I acknowledge that without the hellscape Theo would not have been the Theo that anyone would even want around. but I am thoroughly mad about the hypocrisy on everyone involved's part.

The only reason they punished Theo is because he almost beat them. Stiles HATED Theo because he outsmarted him. Malia hated Theo because he tricked her. Liam hated him because he used his own mind against. Scott hated Theo because Theo managed to rip his pack apart and actually killed him. (I will make an exception to the hypocrisy on Malia's part cuz that is actually on brand for her.)

And again he did kill people, but his eyes are still gold/yellow. he never killed an innocent. not like Peter or Chris or Jackson or other characters I am forgetting (leaving out Malia and Derek cuz Malia's was her mom's fault and Derek's was Peter's fault, technically Jackson's was not his fault but the point stands) oh like Deucalion and his alpha pack.

and if someone says that his eyes don't change color bcuz he is a chimera, maybe. just maybe. but can you name someone he killed that had not already killed someone (besides Scott and that is iffy)

i will retract any of the above points if feasible contradicting evidence is found. I am also very, very open to discussions about and additions to my argument.

[oh-cramity-its-amity]

lmaooo yeahh!! its just i was so starved for wlw content. for ACTUAL wlw and not just speculative wlw (ykwim? like couples that are like lumity and not like bechloe. as much as i love bechloe.). id originally checked s2 out from the library (yep. i watched OUT OF ORDER) i knew nothing about it apart from it being gay. but it hooked me??? i mean me and ghost have talked about when i watched citrus because i was so desperate for wlw 😭. DONT ASK 😭. fanfictions were written. it was bad 💀

also NO!!! cmon s5 was amazing. there was like- so much going on in that season with the riot. i get it though- pouessey was a good character. idk there was so much that happened in s5 and especially with alex and piper. s6 too... i really started to like pennsatucky... oh and taystee and nicky... this is really making me want to rewatch it tbh.

UGHHH THE SHOWER SCENE 💀😭🫡. stop bc actually same. my gay ass would pause it and stare to try to get a glimpse of anna kendrick 🤝. girl how did i not know i was gay. PLUS LITERALLY LIKE- the chemistryyyyyyy i cant. theres no way beca isnt queer. im not just saying that cause shes my type but like COME ONNNN. bi for bi at LEAST. chloe literally was so into her. THEY BOTH WERE. "theyre really good friends" my mf ass bruh. Aubrey and fat amy talking about which one of them was a lesbian as chloe literally pulls her close a little further away from them - CLEARLY DRUNK - being all flirty. i mean aubrey/stacy and bechloe 🫡

also the tent scene in pp2....

the back to basics song from pp2 is probably my favorite fucking thing. THE CLIPS WITH ALL OF THEM. just the montage from the movie. anna looking grumpy going down the waterslide and being thrown into the air like a rag doll. just that entire video... i love it sm. ALSO ANNA'S PART... "awowowah" whatchama call it.

also not to mention the net part- I LOVE THE CAMP SCENES. i cant. all of it.

ALSO THE RIFF OFF FROM PP2 WHERE ANNA BREAKS OFF TO SING BEFORE HE CHEATS. ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL AND FULL FUCKING VERSION WHEN?????. -> ALSO WHEN ESTER DOES THAT PART "GIRLS... YOU KNOW YOU BETTER... WATCH OUT!!" that part??? HOLY FUCK i love their voices sm.

i can gush abt this so much but i find it so funny that haliee and ben platt were written as a couple because ben is very much not straight. i should try to listen to his music again tbh.

oh yeah i have- recs but theres so many thatve been lost in the ether cause ff.net and my old wattpad acc. i thinkkkk ive heard of experimentation. i dont remember if ive read it- 50 shades of bechloe changed my brain chemistry though 😭. i HAVR BOOKMARKS IN MY PHONE FROM MY OLD PHONE OF RANDOM CHAPTERS. i was... 👋😐 unhinged.

if i go through my old bookmarks i might get back to u abt them. honestly most r smut iirc 😭. BUT I THINK I GOT A FEW THAT ARENT.

ALSO YEAH INFODUMP ABT A SIMPLE FAVOR OMG. i had a fic way back when i think i deleted from my bookmarks but if i didnt i might read it for this occasion.

im not too good w horror so perhaps it might be a good thing??? i get scared easily. i went into scream 1 completely spoiled bc i was so anxious because id never watched a horror movie before that - APART FROM PROM NIGHT w britt. its a whole thing but im down??;?? any and all propaganda is good and will be documented into my brainnnn

SAPPHO WHATS WITH THE SUPERCORP CONTENT ON MY DASH HELP 😭

Sorrrrry. I was consumed by the madness. It all started when I realized one of my favorite fic authors (and all time favorite for supercorp) is on here. And then I got supercorp on my dash and remembered they are both very hot and very good together. It will happen again 😁