#both trump wins

[oh-a-very-toxic-octopus]

The way results day dread has become such a familiar feeling

[rodeodeparis]

trump winning mostly due to channeling the economic concerns of american voters into a better campaign (and probably also a few bomb threats) being blamed by hardline dems on arab/muslim/jewish voter treachery is pretty medieval europe coded i have to say

[sensiblereblogifposts]

We interrupt our usual broadcast to ask the USAmericans out there, please make plans to go vote for Harris.

What ever you think of Kamala Harris, remember the other guy is basically a fascist.

One of the two will take office after the election - there is no other possibility.

Please do your part in keeping Trump out of power. Go vote for Harris.

[tanadrin]

trump killing the JCPOA was so bad because the way it happened meant that even if a US administration did want rapprochement with iran in the future, iran will never, ever trust the US again--and in this case they are correct not to do so! the US has shown it will not abide by international commitments where iran is concerned, if hardliners in the US take power. and the hardliners are still enthusiastic about the prospect of war with iran, so developing nukes is probably the sanest possible move the iranian government could make at this juncture to protect itself.

trump's foreign policy was insanely reckless and belligerent, and the fact that he got credit as being somehow "anti-war" (still does!) is incredibly stupid.

[thundergrace]

My one political post today is just to inform you that Elon Musk's America PAC subcontractor literally trafficked in Black people to knock on doors in Michigan (most likely Wayne County) for Trump. I don't know if it was ONLY Black people. I only make note of the people we've seen being Black because it feels strategic considering Detroit and Wayne County's demographic makeup. But, my other guess is Dearborn.

I mean, I'm waiting for it to be debunked because it's so outrageous, but it hasn't been so far...

They were flown here and then driven around in a seatless uhaul truck. They were promised motel on the condition that they met unrealistic numbers for doors. Otherwise, they would be responsible for the motel bill.

They didn't even know what they were signing up to do.

[rabbits-of-negative-euphoria]

this is what I've learned about the practice of politics over the past 8 years:

the time for talking about abstract political ideals is during the primary.

after the primary, the die has been cast, and your two choices are there whether you like them or not. your practical political responsibility still exists. any choice that seems to lie outside the two candidates is an illusion. to cast a vote for a third party or to not vote at all is still, practically speaking, a choice for one of the two main candidates.

furthermore, you are not voting for the candidates as people, you are voting for them as policy. voting for a person is a luxury most countries don't have anymore. you think Canadian Christian voters ever get a truly Christian ticket on either side? Norwegian Christians? Japanese Christians? America might still be able to vote for people in the primaries, but we don't have that luxury in the general election. the general election is about policy, and the candidates are only pieces in a larger game of chess.

the only thing that would persuade me NOT to vote for Trump this time around is if he had the exact same policy platform as Kamala Harris. if Trump ran on all of Harris' policies except for immigration, I would still vote for Trump, because it's materially worse for my family, friends, and neighbors to allow illegal immigration than to stop it. and as a voter, I have the power to stop it.

[howdoyousleep3]

Please vote today

[gameshowtrainwreck]

the only difference between the weepy wendsday club and myself is that I've been fucked by the system longer than they have (D or R, both parties fuckin' 𝕝𝕠𝕒𝕥𝕙𝕖 the disabled), and now they're sad because there's a chance they might have to experience it themselves.

i am a reflection of what i deal with as shaped by the environment i occupy. people literally tried to argue that sometimes genocide is acceptable and that doing less than the bare fuckin basic minimum (e.g. 1% of the 43 million student loans forgiven) means we shouldn't criticize or talk bad about my betters otherwise trump will win.

trump still won, you dumb motherfuckers.

trump still won and none of these hateful pieces of shit will learn anything from it. losing to trump once can be a mistake, benefit of the doubt covers that. losing to him twice is a pattern of deliberate, willful decisions by those within the party that everybody else swears will defend democracy yet simultaneously are also too fragile to withstand criticism from someone who would have really liked for her to win. considering how fucking smug everybody had been about it before the election, even i thought harris had it in the bag. turns out that if i handled a fucking surgery the same way harris handled her campaign, i would still be in fuckin prison.

the same group of people who watched a genocide unfold and said nothing are now subject to the big sads. folks, nobody has any reason to be sad about something your candidates willfully chose to do.

if anything, y'all should be getting angry. get angry at the people responsible for this in your own goddamned party. or don't, because gosh we all know how much of a fuckin hassle it was actually giving a shit during the 1st trump admin.

i guess that's why a lot of harris voters are now talking about wishing more hurricanes on the south (even though black people will be the most likely to be hurt by it) or calling ICE on latinos for having the fucking gall to not vote correctly; makes sense to just go full-on masks-off.

that's why i'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop and all these sadsack assholes start switching over to full-blown fascism. i would fucking jizz my pants if i was proven wrong, believe you me, but a lifetime of experience and a neurodivergent hyperfocus on world history has told me a lot of people simply ain't got that shit in them.

so fuck em, i will cuss them out if to provide some modicum of consequence for the democratic party failing the people they allegedly care about because god knows a lot of these motherfuckers have been sheltered by their economic status.

[glimblshanks]

Also am I absolutely crazy to think these election results are just like... Off. I mean you're telling me that a bunch of Republicans went out, voted for abortion rights, and then voted for Trump. Is that what we're saying happened? For real?

[sorryiwasasleep]

[prezs]

brother after seeing the current election results i am not even fazed anymore. like at this point i'm just gonna ride the next four years out and focus on my local community

[lgbtlunaverse]

Looking from the outside in on the state of us democracy I know it's bad to try and talk about discourse now but as we're getting there can i just say that the least favorite argument of the discourse to me has been "at least if trump wins liberals will acknowledge the genocide." Yeah sure and they'll spend the entire four years saying it wouldn't have been this bad if harris had won and scolding leftists for not voting enough. The kind of person who doesn't believe atrocities can happen under a blue banmer doesnt just suddenly turn into a radical and useful anti-imperialist ally. All you're saying is you'd prefer more fascism just so a group of bootlickers will agree with you on twitter. And they won't even do that.

[dreamyintersexouppy]

the uncritical "i won't vote" leftist is such convenient make believe to argue against cuz instead of arguing against actual anti-electoralism you get to refocus on the singular electoral race and continue to act like voting is the singular mode of political activism all without engaging with something people are actually arguing for so real anti-electoralists won't argue cuz it's not about them or if they do they look like they're changing the subject, it's really skillful reactionary rhetoric when you think about it

[h0ney8ee]

i really have to just get off the internet bc its so difficult to tell what is real and what is people being dramatic because theyre emotional

[lights-at-night]

stressed abt election stuff :/

[timemachineyeah]

imagine thinking letting Trump win another election is somehow good anti-imperialist voter strategy holy shit might as well pick up a gun and start shootings Palestinians yourself