#bj delores

[mskrysta-art]

the real Beetlejuice Beetlejuice ending am i right

[cloudysfluffs]

beetlejuice's ex-wife is the only character i cared about in the new movie <3

(proship, nsfw and/or kink blogs dni!!!)

[xxx-theartofsuicide-xxx]

"Delores'" ring?

This ring?

This ring that we only know is red and spider-shaped because Hot Topic dropped the merchandise before this scene was ever a thought in our heads?

Where have I seen it before...?

Oh right!

Beetlejuice: The Animated Series, S1E1

It was just Betelgeuse's one year anniversary gift to his childbride best friend teehee.

[vomitoderatas]

The pain of not finding art of ships other than Beetlebabes in the Beetlejuice fandom.............

GIVE ME MORE BEETLANDS AND BEETLEBOOONEEES

[girlbeyondthegrave]

THINGS I NOTICED WHILE WATCHING BEETLEJUICE BEETLEJUICE AGAIN:

This is a very Beetlebabes-centric post, so if you don’t like the ship, please feel free to scroll away. <3

Beetlejuice cut Delores’ ring finger off, and while it was originally a fun joke in the first movie, there’s deep implications about that action when we look at it with the context of the second film. Beetlejuice attacked her after she betrayed him. Anyone would want to kill the person that poisoned them, but the fact that he took the time to find her finger and deliberately cut her ring finger off (and ONLY that finger) reflects how much that marriage meant to him. It also symbolizes that he’s effectively dissolving their marriage. He’s cut off the physical representation of their love and taken the ring, which he tries to give to Lydia hundreds of years later. He held onto that ring for centuries in hopes of finding someone he deemed worthy of it.

He calls his dynamic with Lydia a long-distance relationship, which could’ve been a throwaway joke if not for the fact that when he clearly notices how hot Janet is, he never talks to her or gropes her like he did with Barbara prior to meeting Lydia. Keaton said BJ wouldn’t be politically correct, so this isn’t to reflect the current political climate, but rather to reflect BJ’s motivations.

Beetlejuice was jobless at the start of the first movie, and in thirty years he’s built a company for his bio-exorcisms. Coupled with the picture of Lydia on his desk, it’s possible he did this to impress her. After all, she’s famous and rich now. BJ’s gotta step it up, y’know?

Probably overheard the convo between Lydia and Rory and deliberately bugged her at that time, because if he can possess the phone or whatever, he can probably use it to eavesdrop. This can be further supported by how he got rid of the influencers but kept the people that mattered to Lydia present—Delia and Astrid.

We can also assume he overheard the conversation where Lydia said that Rory loves her and that has to be enough because of the panning to a gravestone. BJ has a special fascination with graveyards, even tiny model ones. If he did overhear them, it explains why he used the truth serum on Rory. He’s testing him. He wants to see if this guy actually loves Lydia or if he’s using her, and then he gives Lydia the means to exact revenge on Rory rather than doing anything himself.

Lydia spends half the movie being strong -armed into a marriage with Rory, and in a way, it’s reminiscent of the first movie’s marriage attempt. Rory dangles their “love” in front of her like a carrot, and if she doesn’t want to be alone, she has to accept his manipulation and agree to get married. Yet she immediately offers it to Beetlejuice, only sounding annoyed rather than terrified. And the movie spends a lot of time proving that BJ has sincere motives this time around, whereas Rory doesn’t. It pushes an underlying message that if one of these guys is going to be a better choice, it’ll be BJ.

Despite Lydia having a tendency to back out of their deals, he still helps her first. He prioritizes saving Astrid even before finding his “runaway bride” again.

Casually calls Lydia the love of his life, looks so sincere when he says he’ll make her so happy. Clearly spent those 30 years planning that dream-dance sequence.

He doesn’t seem to care that Lydia’s sending him away. That coupled with the end scene illustrates how confident he is this time around. Lydia is still stuck with him, and even if he didn’t get her this time, he will eventually. But he also knows how spooked she is by marriage after being a snoop, so it’s possible that he’s just taking it slow on purpose.

In conclusion: Beetlejuice genuinely does want to be with Lydia and care about her. His feelings have evolved beyond permanent residence in the mortal world. If anything, if he still wants that, it’s so he can be by her side.

[yourladyem]

Midnight Ramblings:

A Beetlejuice 2 Observation

Did anyone else notice Beetlejuice takes Richard's place at his Immigration booth? BJ could have shoved someone out of the way or created a diversion to take someone else's spot but thought it was interesting he literally takes Richard's place. Richard loses his hat and Beetlejuice ends up with the hat. Almost like he's saying he wants to take Richard's place in other ways too. He's picking up where Richard left off.

If the whole thing is a dream sequence, it's like Lydia's subconscious saying she secretly wants him to take Richard's place or BJ is showing his desire to replace Lydia's ex-husband in her life.

He even wants to replace Richard as Astrid's Dad.

It can even coincide with Ryder and Keaton saying how they secretly are in love with each other and it's a subconscious way of showing that with BJ replacing Richard.

The first time BJ tried to make contact with Lydia/Astrid in the house is with a flyer (a love connection flyer) that just so happens to be near a box marked RICHARD.

It seems the film is also about Lydia and Beetlejuice replacing the disappointing and heartbreaking relationships they've experienced to move into their best relationship with each other.

Lydia replaced Delores in Beetlejuice's heart, and he's replacing Rory and Richard in hers, without her realizing it or she's just not ready to admit it yet.

But after seeing her regret in sending him away and not really wanting him gone in the end, she might be slowly getting there.

[fushsiaelectrica]

loved the new movie and am huge fan of the 90s cartoon so I thought it could use it's own version of a flash forward!

In this version Lydia and Beetlejuice were friends during her childhood like in the series but she stopped talking to him after a huge traumatic incident. But he still cared about her and kept an eye on her even if she hated him. The rest of the movie basically plays out the same. But in the end when he takes care of Delores and Lydia's manipulative fiance and they reunite as friends instead. BJ then basically becomes Astrid's weird ghost uncle and the cycle of wacky undead pun filled adventures starts alllll over again!

[gebediahhhhhhh]

Thinking about the wedding scene from BJBJ once again.

GOD I WISH there was some interaction between Delores and Lydia. I mean, when she got to BJ’s office and smashed Lydia’s photo I got so hyped for the possibility of a cheesy ao3-coded jealousy scene. And all we’ve got was “he’s mine pushes Lydia away” or whatever that was.

I’ve already seen everybody and their mother talk about the wasted potential that Delores is, but the 12yo girl inside me really longs for some fight between her and Lydia. I WISH Lyds could do something for BJ as well, because now he’s the only one doing shit for her. Girl go save your man.

Giggling kicking my feet if I’m gonna imagine how it should’ve gone… I want Lydia to step up and say something like “Erm, excuse me, we’re having a wedding and HE CHOSE ME”. Even if she doesn’t really want BJ to herself, the possibility of giving him to Delores is worse.

And then Astrid can do her sandworm thing. Idk whatever.

[enchanting-chit-chat]

Beetlejuice's Backstory and the Black Plague 💚🕷️🥀💀 PART 2

Hello, hellooo! I’m thrilled that so many of you enjoyed my previous post! 🎊 This is the second part of a series dedicated to the Black Plague era, BJ’s past life, and other movieverse theories.

If you missed it, here is PART 1.

Warning: This post contains SPOILERS for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice (2024) and many, MANY speculations.

In the previous segment, I analyzed various pieces of evidence and concluded that Beetlejuice was:

definitely a plague survivor.

possibly a monatto by profession (though this is still debatable).

most likely Italian, living in Italy during one of the historically significant outbreaks in European history.

However, we still haven’t addressed the million-euro question: Which plague outbreak did he live through when he was alive? And the reason I avoided this question until now is that it’s basically impossible to tell for now. Here’s why:

Reason number 1. The two most notable outbreaks in Italian history occurred in 1350 and 1630. However, after the first incident, the disease reappeared in smaller epidemics every few years across Europe. Additionally, upon rechecking my sources, I discovered three more significant outbreaks:

in 1658, mainly affecting Naples.

in 1749, confined to Sicily and Calabria.

the very last one, in 1815, affecting the Bari area (Noicattaro)

After these outbreaks, the disease seemingly disappeared from Italy for good, which is great news but leaves us with many possibilities.

Reason number 2. In both movies, Beetlejuice has repeatedly proven to be an unreliable narrator. This means we can’t take his origin story at face value.

For instance, his claim of being over 600 years old completely contrasts with the clothes he and Delores are wearing in the backstory sequence. That style of fashion is typical of the Baroque period, which flourished from the early 17th century until the 1750s.

To keep it brief: Beetlejuice’s neckband, his three-piece suit, and Delores’ outfit visually suggest that the backstory is likely set in the 17th century and definitely did not occur before the 16th century.

On top of that, consider that Tim Burton navigated various historical periods throughout his filmography: think about Sleepy Hollow, Sweeney Todd, Alice in Wonderland, Big Eyes, and Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children. I believe that it’s unlikely that historical inaccuracies were unintentional.

For context, here is what Beetlejuice and Delores would wear if their story was actually set in the Middle Ages, around the 1300s-1400s:

…not quite the same impression they give during the backstory, is it? And lace cravats were invented in the 1660s. This fact alone is significant because:

It would suggest that Beetlejuice is actually 'younger' that what he stated: Personally, I believe he might be around 300-400 years old. However, this is just an approximation, and I might be wrong.

It would imply that the backstory he narrated and showed us might be a lie (partially or entirely).

Or… perhaps he lied earlier about being 600 years old, but the backstory is the actual truth? Maybe he never learned to count properly… who knows?

My point is that there’s no way to discern what is true and what isn’t. All I can do is analyze what I see with my own eyes, hoping to find some answers. And yes, this means that, in PART 3, I’m going to delve into historical fashion, in unnecessary detail.

But that’s fine, I enjoy making sacrifices for this team. 😀

Until then, have a fantastic week! ✨

[impactrueno]

Today my dad make me know Tim B. And Monica Bellucci are together! :[ Now i think the only reason they make BJ Italian is cuz she (as her ex wife) is Italian xD I mean... is a possibility, isn't? XD

well there's that, and there's also the fact that the delores flashback scene was a tribute to italian horror master mario bava. specifically it seems to be inspired by Black Sunday (1960)

mario bava even gets mentioned in the movie by lydia, recalling when she and richard went to a mario bava film festival while she was pregnant with astrid, and her water broke during Kill Baby Kill (1966) which is also a big influence on tim burton as a whole, but especially the beetlejuice films. just look at that lighting and german expressionism angles:

i fully recommend these if you're into classic horror, they're beautiful films. spooky too obviously!!

but yeah tim was also definitely showing off his hot italian gf lol (he always puts his girlfriends in his movies. he has a type)

[eyecan02]

When Beetlejuice sings "After all of the loves of my life, you'll still be the one." We see the images of Delores, Lydia and BJs (Tim's) pet dog. BJ fell in love with Delores at first sight without really knowing her and they weren't even married 12 hours. He does know Lydia as evidenced from his stalking for 30 years. lol So in reality, Lydia is the only one he has ever truly loved in his 600 years of existence. There's never really been anyone else. Lydia was always the one.

[iliveforbeetlejuice]

Omg guys... I'm dead 😭😭😭😭

I loved it, I don't care what others think.

There's so much material for amazing fanfics hahahahahahaha.

Now, if you'll excuse me I'll go to sleep and dream with BJ ♥️💚♥️💚♥️💚

Ps: Delores was so hot omg... 🗣️💥

[bookbrdfics]

BJ's unfinished business

I've been trying to write this story 10 days now. Since the Maitland's had their unfinished business of having a child (why they became ghosts). I thought about BJ's unfinished business.

His unfinished business is to marry to love of his afterlife. BJ was poisoned by Delores, the woman he loved on their wedding night. After being betrayed and slaying Delores and taking back the ring (which is a big hint at the unfinished business), BJ became a ghost.

Once he marries the love of his afterlife (Lydia), after she dies, he can move to the Great Bed Bath and Beyond (it seemed voluntary in the BJ movieverse).

Lydia would also finish her business by overcoming her fear to commitment. I think it would complete the arch for both characters.

[herefortheships]

I guess Bj wouldn't be as kind and selfless to let Lydia marry someone else, so is the dream theory more realistic?

I guess it depends entirely on interpretation, but my take on it is that for Betelgeuse to be selfish and possessive enough of Lydia to intervene in her relationships it would depend on the person she's involved with and how the relationship is going. Like I mentioned before in this post, he simply might not have had the power to intervene or even reach Lydia beyond just projecting flashes of his presence around her, when she was with Richard, but I can also believe that he just let her go and be happy during that time. However, he definitely wanted to intervene in her relationship with Rory, because Rory was a toxic partner and would eventually destroy Lydia. He was already destroying her, as a matter of fact. So in this case, Betelgeuse would never allow this man to have his Lydia, no way. He'd have done anything possible to get in the way.

When it comes to Lydia, Betelgeuse is just different. Lydia is special and he does love her, so he might just have been putting her best interest and her happiness first when she was with Richard, even above his own feelings, which is big for someone like Betelgeuse if you ask me. I don't know for sure how long he was like trapped in the model before Barbara and Adam dug him up (probably since the moment Adam built the model?), but my assumption is that even before he was bound to the model he was strapped down some other way by Juno in the afterlife (and if I add my own little headcanon, even before he was stopped by Juno he was an aimless spirit unable to move on, bound to the ritual of marriage), so Lydia is definitely the first woman he loved since Delores (don't think there were other ghost ladies in his afterlife, is what I mean), it would be natural that he became possessive of the one person he made a connection with in hundreds of years. Lydia is the first woman he's fallen in love with since Delores. This is confirmed in the wedding dance scene. That said, if he loves her truly, part of loving someone is letting them go if their happiness depends on it. (Once Lydya is free after Rory, though, the story is different; now Betelgeuse has a shot and I don't see him letting her go any time soon 😉).

I already shared my thoughts about the Dream Theory before, but I can add a little more here to answer the question more completely. While I personally have a different interpretation of the events in the movie, I do find the Dream Theory very intriguing and interesting to read. I can say in some ways it can be more realistic, considering Betelgeuse's nature, and looking at Lydia as a character. Lydia is attracted to the darkness; she likes the strange and unusual, and she described herself as such in the first movie. She might have at some point called on Betelgeuse after the Maitlands moved on, and opted to live with him rather than to live with another living person. The first Beetlejuice movie doesn't really go into Lydia's head when it comes to Betelgeuse. It could be that any persistent negative ideas she had about him were all put in her head by Barbara. As she grew older she might have changed the way she viewed him and even be intrigued by him. The Maitlands were definitely more her parents than Charles and Delia ever were, and Lydia always connected more with the dead than the living (we can throw in Astrid's resentment about this fact here as a reflection of guilt in Lydia's subconscious about it, if Astrid truly is a dream figure existing only in the dream). This is all speculative, of course, but yes I don't think it's unrealistic to conclude that it was all a construct of Betelgeuse's power. I have a different interpretation, which I talked about in the post linked above.

When it comes to Lydia, Betelgeuse is softer, and I think he would do pretty much anything for her. Whether that is being selfless and allowing her the freedom to love someone else, when he failed to reach her, or building a dreamverse for her to experience the things she can't have while being his forever partner.

[thestrangesthell]

Do you think BJ is a jealous man?

Ooo, I think it depends, but the short answer would be yes.

In my personal headcanon hell, he's possessive - but only out of a desire to protect something. Trust is hard when you've been murdered, fired, jilted at the altar twice and hunted down by your ex-murderess.

For Betelgeuse to find people that he can trust (or actually wants to get close to), he would do everything not to lose that.

But that's just in fanon.

In (movie) canon, I think Betelgeuse could very easily let someone go.

The question lies in if he wants to.

I think any possessiveness in canon wouldn't appear out of insecurity or vulnerability, but out of spite.

Spite to prove to people he can do it - he can get out, he can be a successful Bio-exorcist, he can get the girl. Defy the odds and be the greatest oddity.

That said, I do genuinely think Lydia is his weakness.

Whatever you do or do not ship, it was clear as day in Beetlejuice Beetlejuice just how much he was willing to risk for her. He openly ran out into Delores' hunting ground after forcing the Shrinkers to barricade the door, zero hesitations.

Slight tangent, but my take on the possibility of a Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice would result in us seeing a very different side of BJ as he attempts to have success with Lydia and keep her close to him. Whether through shenanigans akin to Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian (fly high, sweet angel), or perhaps something a little darker, I don't really mind. He's a horror character, after all. He has it in him to be a little twisted.

But to answer your question, yes, I think he's possessive. However, it's the context and intention behind it that's key.

[another-damn-fandom]

Theory about BJBJBJ

When it comes to the prospect of BJBJBJ, I've seen fans mention five things:

Lydia should realize her feelings for Beetlejuice.

Lydia and Beetlejuice should become a kick-ass team against something big.

More Delores, she was under utilized. (Even if that means some Delores/Rory.)

The third wedding has to be different than the previous two.

Beetlejuice can't be enthusiastic about the prospect of marriage this time.

Which all make sense. Rule of three, more bad ass character developments, fool me three times, etc.

But what if you combined them?

Here's what I'm thinking:

At some point, some how, Lydia confesses that she's had a devastating crush on Beetlejuice this entire time and has been too terrified to mention it. Either because she didn't want to disappoint the Maitlands, or Chuck and Delia, or just basic self preservation and the hopes that he'd go away. But something has happened recently and now she's got to admit it to someone. And how much it has screwed up her mental health for not admitting it and facing it.

The someone she talks to (Astrid? Delia? Jane?) mentions that she needs to talk to Beetlejuice about this in order to get on with her life.

Lydia agrees. Then she doesn't.

Delores shows up and now she has a way to drastically hurt/kill Beetlejuice. (Possibly with Rory's help.) Her first attempt to do so is unsuccessful, but it shows that the Ghost With The Most is on a ticking clock, unless someone comes up with a solution. He mentions this to Lydia and asks for her help.

She says, sure, let's get married.

He says it's not going to work this time.

Whatever Delores did, it closed a part of the original marriage loophole for Beetlejuice. Sure, there are other ways for breathers to bring the deceased back to the world of the living via marriage. But those require both the living party and the dead one to be desperately in love with each other, and BJ admits that Lydia's lukewarm feelings means he doesn't qualify for that.

Lydia, like a liar, agrees.

So they agree to team up together to save Beetlejuice's life. Lots of shenanigans in the world of the living while Beetlejuice hides in the world of the dead to ensure Keaton's No More Than 17 minutes rule.

Eventually the plot corners them into a situation where the only option is to get married. Lydia is in a black dress (important!), Astrid and possibly Delia are with them, and all is lost. But there is some sort of church or justice of the peace nearby and, with everyone but Beetlejuice aware of Lydia's feelings, they go for a Hail Mary play.

Beetlejuice fights them the entire time. The bylaws of the underworld state that it would kill Lydia, him, or both of them to attempt a loveless marriage right now. But he knows they're running out of options, perma-death is inevitable for all of them, and the romantic in him would like to die marrying the woman he loves.

So Lydia more or less drags a "We can't! Not that I don't I want to. We'll die! Ooo, nice wedding rings, babes. Nooooo!" Beetlejuice to the altar.

Bonus points if Lydia says something like "C'mon, c'mon..." or "Let's keep it rolling, rev!" during the ceremony to mirror what Beetlejuice said during the first movie.

The terrified officiant reluctantly, barely, marries them.

They kiss to seal the union. Something otherworldly, lovely, romantic happens during the kiss, proving it worked.

Then Beetlejuice and Lydia suddenly and dramatically get dragged back into the world of the dead.

Lydia's black dress turns red the second she's in the underworld.

And anything she wears immediately turns red every time she re-enters the underworld moving forward.

Why?

It mirrors the poncho dress Lydia wore in the cartoon when she visited the underworld.

It implies that BJ thought that he could engineer true love by finding someone who was a good match on paper, dressing them like someone who loved him, and hoping for the best. (Which is why alllll of his past weddings failed.)

It implies that the most important part about loving and building a life with someone is giving them the option to choose you then letting them make that choice of their own free will. And that true love doesn't happen unless you do that.

It gives the audience a new red wedding dress without there being another red wedding.

When she's in the world of the dead, Lydia is better off wed.

Wolf or another dead denizen explains that their marriage has given them the extra juice they needed to take on Delores in a Boss Fight. It also allows the two of them to travel freely between the world of the living and the dead without repercussions. (With a few extra bells and whistles so we can get a bunch of cool action sequences with practical effects.)

As they're given their marching orders for the movie's climax, BJ is just... stunned.

"Wait. You actually like me? How long have you liked me?"

BJ eventually focuses on the task at hand, but as they fight for their lives, every so often Lydia looks over and sees him grinning like an idiot and doing this: