#as he tends to present with his aggressive pride & incredibly high levels of self confidence
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champions herc was fun bc it came during a time when he didn’t really seem sure where he was supposed to be in this new age of heroism & it was therefore very easy for natasha to convince him to join by simply . . . joining herself since he was a bit head-over-heels for her at the time, but then he just. committed wholeheartedly. while a champion he was a champion & fought just as hard with his team as his ever did outside of one
#it was also a good show of herc as a... well for lack of better term soldier#& not just an individual warrior#as he tends to present with his aggressive pride & incredibly high levels of self confidence#bc yeah he Is those things & for good reason he's a literal living legend & god#but also after the champions decided on natasha as their leader he didn't actually... resist#which while he is....... him & makes it seem like it's part of the head over heels thing#he also displays great confidence in her ability to lead#he doesn't actually contradict her as a leader or go against her orders once she'd made them#he did what she needed him to do without hesitation while trusting in whatever plan she'd come up for them#despite that he has centuries of experience in battle & leadership over her#perhaps that draws back to the confidence thing that he doesn't really consider her... younger per say#i mean she is but he doesn't view her through the lens so much as he sees her as another warrior#& one with considerable talent that he's more than happy to put his faith in#anyways herc works really well on a team actually & champions herc is always there to prove it#the digression of my thought process be damned#* ooc / sometimes cryptids want to be heard you know.#delete.
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People assume Dante is the more powerful of the twins but sometimes I still feel it's Vergil? Sure, Dante sealed Mundus but that was with an extra ten years of growing into his powers. Plus Vergil as Nelo Angelo probably got more use/work out than Dante and Urizen mostly kicks Dante's ass before Dante has to fully level up. Returning to Vergil in pure form means more power. Plus the Qliphoth fruits power added on to Vergil should be a major power boost. Thoughts?
Thanks for waiting on this response - I’m just catching up on asks now. My opinion is the same as yours - that Vergil is the more innately powerful, or naturally “gifted” of the twins, as I tend to think of it.(Putting aside entirely that as a conceit Dante, the POV character, must “win” or at least “draw” all battles with Vergil, or there is literally no game.)At the conservatory where I studied opera, my favorite classical piano professor had a special cautionary tale for those of us who presented with considerable natural talent - and that was “never fall in love with being a natural talent, and never make being a prodigy your identity.”He told us about a piano student he’d had who was one of the most intrinsically talented he’d ever seen - she was eidetic with memorization, and played all her compositions with both technical and interpretational brilliance. He was very excited to have her, and thought she could be one of the world-class greats.But she was so enamored of the cachet of being “untaught” and the validation she received from being “naturally gifted” that she passive-aggressively resisted any pedagogy and attempts to train her further which in her estimation would make her talent no longer “natural”. If she was brilliant, as everyone said, surely she shouldn’t have to practice for hours, like the others. It should be easy for her, effortless, always, in her mind - or her “natural talent” was a lie.The sad upshot of the story was that, within a year, he said, nearly every student had surpassed her in professional development - even the mediocre, even the far less talented ones who were highly diligent with practice and preparation.She ended up dropping out, and not pursuing a concert career at all - and feeling like a failure and a fraud, her entire worldview shaken by a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be gifted.It hit me rather squarely when he related it, because I had secretly harbored some of the same assumptions. It’s a very easy trap to fall into, and I’m incredibly thankful to him for mentioning it.His assertion, in a nutshell, was: hard work and persistence will usually eventually surpass pure talent, but if you happen to have both, you’re unstoppable.I don’t suggest this anecdote is an exact parallel for how I see young Vergil, but I think there are undeniable resonances.Because things are always effortless for Vergil, because of his confidence in his own savior-faire and unerring capabilities, he seems to saunter into situations unprepared, like the kid who breezed through high school on test scores and wakes up to a nasty shock and the reality of having to study in college when he gets his first syllabus and course load.Of course, we also can’t discount his filial obligations in considering himself the oldest son, and feeling obligated to atone for the mistakes of his father - so some of what drives him is probably false bravado. But I would also say a great deal of his youthful ego is entwined with his prodigy and virtuosity. And this is when we last meet him, truly, until his return - in DMC3, at the age of eighteen, when his hubris and pride leads him to make an ill-considered gesture that summarily changes his life and removes most of his agency for years.Dante, by contrast, embodies aspects of the slightly-less naturally gifted student who is dauntless and dogged about striving toward improvement and never gives up. As you mention, it takes him ten years to become strong enough to take Mundus on singlehandedly -- and I think it’s also worth noting something that I don’t see many people discuss. As much as Vergil is overly proactive about Mundus, wanting to take him on before he’s truly ready, Dante is in denial about the problem - insisting he has no father, ignoring the ongoing threat to their existence that Mundus poses as long as he’s alive.It’s strongly implied that together, with their combined powers, the brothers might well have beaten Mundus - if only they were in concordance at the time, or agreed on the nature of the threat.And even as Vergil was forced to reckon with the tragic fallout of his youthful impatience, Dante was eventually forced to deal with the reality of Mundus. He was no longer able to hide from the legacy Vergil had insisted they confront.
DMC5 Vergil is the sage, self-actualized Vergil who has learned the lesson of talent+preparation.“Heal your wounds, Dante. Get strong,” he says, when an irrationally emotional Dante wants to fling himself headlong into a pitched battle he can only lose.This is particularly significant as a piece of dialogue, as it tells us that Vergil now knows, and acknowledges, that this is why he lost to Mundus - and it is telling because we see that he now understands his failure was not due to own inadequacy, but his laissez-faire, his lack of willingness to adequately prepare. We also see that he realizes that Mundus’ victory was not honorable.His nightmares, corruption, and self-recriminations are truly gone - he is re-minted.I think the takeaway of DMC5 is that Vergil’s resurrection and subsequent imbuence with the power of the Qliphoth fruit, and Dante’s consistent persistence/leveling up combined with his absorption of the Devil Sword Sparda has at last brought them to a place of absolute equilibrium - as evidenced by their battles always ending at an impasse.
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Edgar Valden 4w5 ISFP
[[16 September 2020
Originally written as a comment thread on PDB]]
While we all seem to agree that Edgar is undoubtedly a 4, it seems that there has been some debate over his wingtype; based on the newly released information for him, I would argue that Edgar is a clear example of a 4w5. In fact, his enneatype also feeds into the disagreement over his MBTI (and vice versa).
To begin, here is a direct translation of his character summary, also featured as the brief description on this profile:
“The only son in the Valden family of aristocrats, Edgar showed an interest and high talent in painting from childhood. Praise from his family and the public has led to his eccentric character. His perception of the world around him led to his belief that nobody else is worthy to speak to him about art.”
A surface-level look at this may suggest to some a 3 wing, for the simple fact that “praise from the public” is mentioned. However, the key here is that it has resulted in his becoming an “eccentric character”, a label the 4w3 is less likely to be assigned than a 4w5. The influence from the 3 gives the 4 a bit more awareness of social expectations and appearing “acceptable”, but a 5 wing gives the 4 an even more deeply introspective and self-referential worldview. Any enneatype can receive public praise; it’s how the person reacts to it that truly indicates their personality type.
This description of his character also pairs well with Fi > Fe, as in (an unhealthy) use of dominant Fi in the ISFP; Edgar displays absolutely no Fe. He is not interested in the feelings or opinions of others. In fact, what frustrates him is that nobody else seems to understand how he feels, which in his mind is obviously the only correct way to see and understand art.
His character trailer only further cements the interpretation of an emotionally-driven, authenticity-seeking 4w5 ISFP:
“All that is beautiful in this world; once upon a time, that was the inspiration for my paintings. But slowly, they stopped looking so cute to me. The plebeians, you see, they do not revere art, because they will never grasp it. Hypocritical and double-faced, avaricious and insatiable, obstreperous and useless. None amongst you can speak with me on the true essence of art.”
“And when this place can bring me pleasure no more I can only hope that that paradise will bring me yet unknown inspiration.”
His arrogance is not the pride of a 3 wing; it is more in line with the sense of pseudo-intellectual superiority of a 5 wing. He feels that the people around him cannot possibly understand the depth, the “true meaning” behind art. We can see this further reflected in how he describes the “plebeians”:
“Hypocritical and double-faced, avaricious and insatiable, obstreperous and useless.”
Here, there is a clear emphasis on the values of the 4 — authenticity, deep feelings, a sense of meaning — alongside an outright rejection of the 3’s social masking. The passion of the 3 is deceit, which manifests as molding the self into the vision of “success” or being “productive”. A 4w3, especially a less healthy one, struggles to balance the inner need to express themself and the desire to maintain appearances or be in style, one way or another.
The 4w3, because of the assertive Hornevian type of the wing, is also more openly competitive and ambitious, and tends to be more socially extraverted than a 4w5. With a 3 wing, Edgar would be driven to not only express himself creatively, but would also desire success — he would self-promote in order to gain recognition. His character trailer clearly expresses that his struggle is not lack of praise for his work; rather, it is a feeling of hopeless longing, of having a rich internal world that nobody can understand.
This aspect of Edgar’s character is far more the struggle of the unhealthy 4w5. With a doubly introverted frame of reference, the 4w5 is more prone to getting lost in the fantasy world they have constructed; anything that doesn’t meet this set of expectations is derided as being “inauthentic” and discarded. Moreover, even the choice to describe people with words like “two-faced” and “obstreperous” points to a 4w5. We see in the first adjective the 4’s concern with presenting only one’s inner truth, and in the second an aversion to loud and aggressive mannerisms, as well as a discontentment with others’ expectations.
His distaste for hypocrisy is presented to the viewer, and is not then followed by an ironic twist where Edgar himself is shown to be engaging in such behavior (as in other character trailers); therefore, it’s safe to say that he presents himself true to his beliefs, and is generally neither loud nor demanding. Again, with influence from 3, we would expect to see some of these traits reflected in his character; their absence, along with the presence of the more ruminative melancholy, make clear a 4 with an influence from 5.
Edgar’s reverence of art and its “true essence”, on top of the stylistic choice of the trailer itself, further lends towards such a reading. While the artistic direction of the animation could simply be because he’s an painter, this idea could easily have been conveyed using any number of alternate techniques. The choices made were deliberate — or at least, in such productions, should be — and as such, can be taken thusly.
As always, the trailer is in the first person, and is meant to reflect his own perception of the world. By framing Edgar’s entire life as being contained within various paintings, of being defined by the abstract or intangible “essence”, the video suggests that he is living inside his own head, with all external input being filtered through his own personal values and beliefs. This is both the realm of the 4 (especially wing 5) and an ISFP using unhealthy Fi.
Further support for this can be found in the word choice of the original Chinese: the version of the pronoun “they” used in the opening lines:
“All that is beautiful in this world; once upon a time, that was the inspiration for my paintings. But slowly, they stopped looking so cute to me.”
This version of “they” in Chinese is only used for people, not objects or a concept. However, the handling of the “they” in question is the same way one would talk about something non-living. In other words, Edgar sees people primarily as objects of inspiration for his own creativity; the things he experiences in the real world are heavily filtered through Fi, and (before his further deterioration in health) shaped into whatever he needs them to be to inspire him to create.
From this quote, we also know that his primary extraverted function must be perceiving. His natural instinct was to draw his inspiration from direct observation of the physical world around him, rather than being able to generate it fully from within. When describing his motivation for going to Oletus, Edgar says:
“And when this place can bring me pleasure no more I can only hope that that paradise will bring me yet unknown inspiration.”
This supports both the 4’s search for that “missing something” and an ISFP’s need for Se input to support dominant Fi. Furthermore, as an artist, Edgar uses his Se not only to take in sensory information, but also as an outlet for his Fi. By creating art, he’s able to express his emotions and intangible inner landscape in a way that others can experience, and hopefully, understand.
He does not search for connections between ideas or people like a Ne-user, nor does he focus on making quick or logical decisions like a Te-user. Sure he’s judgmental, but it comes purely from a place of emotion, not reason or anything more concrete than that he finds humanity as a whole to be ugly and worthless. This points to unhealthy Fi and inferior Te.
Edgar’s focus on the “true nature” of art and his feelings of disillusionment with humanity is the result of his dominant Fi and tertiary Ni; together, his Fi and Ni create for him a bottomless well of emotions where he holds a sense of art’s essential “essence” and a need to find meaning in everything he experiences. Without these things, he has no inspiration, and therefore must seek out a new external environment (Se) to feed his internal one. With unhealthy Fi, Edgar has gotten so deeply entrenched in his own vision of the world that he has let it overwhelm him, and his Fi interpretation of his Se has become excessively negative.
The Fi’s need for authenticity and confidence in its own internally-held ideas can come across as equally harsh as a dominant or auxiliary Te-user’s criticism. The key difference here is that while the Te’s aggression comes from a frustration at others’ lack of logic or practicality, the Fi’s hostility comes from feeling misunderstood or personally attacked. While Edgar may have Te, it is clearly his inferior function. Not only is he not primarily driven by external decision-making, the way he does use Te is to serve his Fi. In ISFPs, the Te is relied upon when their Fi holds an opinion strongly enough that they feel they must take action on it. This is especially true when under stress or defending against perceived threats; when in such a state, ISFPs can become incredibly critical of others, and will state their Fi beliefs in a matter-of-fact, Te style of speaking. In Edgar, this is what has created his attitude of “None amongst you can speak with me on the true essence of art.”
Further evidence for Edgar having the ISFP function stack is held within his third external trait:
“The Painter focuses on the sensations behind real objects. Therefore, he is not afraid of progress when sitting on a rocket chair. When a Painter is put on a rocket chair for the second time, the progress in sitting on the chair continues from the moment he was last placed.”
Aside from meaning that he can be chaired four times, this external trait is interesting in its title. The Chinese characters used for the first word confidently translates into “sensitive” (as in emotions), while the second word can be translated two different ways. The second word is used to mean either “direct observation” or “intuitive”. Therefore, a full reading of this trait can be either “emotional sensing” or “emotionally intuitive”.
Furthermore, the trait description itself lines up with a function stack that leads with Fi: “The Painter focuses on the sensations behind real objects.”
This is just shy of having “Edgar leads with feeling” outright stated. Moreover, it supports auxiliary Se, where he uses his Fi as the primary way to understand the external stimuli he receives. This more internally-focused way of engaging with reality once again supports a 4w5 reading over 4w3; Edgar is not driven to use his creativity in a way that would generate professional success. He is creating for creativity’s own sake, to express something that is true to his vision of art.
Also in Edgar’s profile are the character traits “arrogant, paranoid, neurotic”. Coupled with his “eccentric character”, this solidly places Edgar as a 4 with a 5 wing, with a clear influence from the 5 in his paranoia and neuroticism. While Edgar seemed to enjoy the praise heaped upon him, this does not automatically indicate a 3 wing. The 4 is just as capable as the 3 of basking in praise; after all, it feeds into the 4’s need for specialness just as much as it does the 3’s need for outstanding achievement. However, we see for Edgar that this praise was not enough; ultimately, the attention was worthless because nobody could understand the true essence of his work, or grasp the deeper meaning behind it.
Edgar’s emotional rejection of his adoring public continues to support a 5 wing. At average to unhealthy levels, 4w5s retreat into an at times bizarre fantasy world that to them appears real. The elitist and eccentric nature of the 4w5 leads to an ever-intensifying internal search for an expression of the genuine and unique self. They can appear to “push the edges of sanity” in pursuit of this, which ties into Edgar’s description as being “neurotic” and “paranoid”.
As the 4w5 decreases in health, the feelings of emptiness and isolation grow, and their image of the world becomes increasingly bleak. Just as in Edgar’s trailer, the world, once rose-tinted and romanticized, is slowly transformed into a grotesque or ugly place; humanity becomes a breed of irredeemable, ignorant or sick creatures. There is a wallowing in the hopelessness and magnification of feelings (that then get bottled up inside) resulting in a negative feedback loop. This is the sort of state that the letter finds Edgar in, and what draws him to Oletus.
The trailer makes it clear that Edgar’s acceptance of the Manor’s invitation is based entirely on his desire to complete a work that will satisfy himself, and only himself. He is not interested in gaining recognition for it. Rather, he sees it as a cure for his own sense of longing — nothing has been able to satisfy him.
On the other hand, the 4w3 tend more towards social extraversion, and are more likely than 4w5s to directly share their overwhelming feelings. Even at decreasing health levels, the 4w3 has more of the performative nature of the 3 than the withdrawal of the 5. The 4w3, when under stress, attempts to magnify the emotions they identify as “genuine”, paradoxically losing touch with their true feelings. There is a theatrical quality to their emotional displays not present in the 4w5; this serves to cover up their inner feelings of an emptiness that can’t ever be filled. Rather than an attachment to a fabricated inner landscape, the 4w3 exhibits a clinging to the external expression of manufactured emotions.
One of the few things I can think of in terms of how Edgar could be mistaken for having a 3 wing is that he has so in his instinctual stack; however, even with this, Edgar is sp/so, which in theory should make his 5 wing more obvious. As for how his enneatype and MBTI can cause mistyping in one or the other, I do have a few ideas. When exhibiting the highly critical and arrogant nature of an unhealthy 4 — especially with a 5 (mind center) wing — a character may have Te ascribed to them. However, their strong words and actions are ultimately tied to emotions, not logic; with auxiliary Se serving unhealthy Fi, the choices made are impulsive (Se) rather than decisive (Te).
Additionally, I can perhaps see some mixup regarding his sweeping statements about art’s underlying nature. This can be seen perhaps as him being a Ne-user, or either a dominant or auxiliary Ni-user. In fact, this ties back into the 5 wing; the 5 is interested in creating a mental theory of the world, or some particular part of it. This “big picture” thinking is characteristic of strong intuition users. However, we see with Edgar that of higher importance is his own subjective values; art has a certain essence because he believes it to be so. This sense of what art “truly is” cannot be Ne, because it’s derived entirely from connections made between his own internal feelings and “gut sense”, rather than between things in the world around him. It is not dominant or auxiliary Ni, because his Fi is much stronger. Once again, this ties back to Edgar’s 4 base, and to his unhealthy use of dominant Fi.
In short, Edgar displays none of the traits or motivations characteristic to the 4w3, and has a function stack that even at a cursory glance simply cannot lead with thinking or intuiting. Given the information provided by both his trailer and the Chinese character profile, I cannot see Edgar as being anything other than a 4w5 ISFP.
#identity v#idv#idv painter#edgar valden#long post#mbti#isfp#enneagram#enneatype#4w5#ennea 4#personality database#character analysis
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Saiyuki: Love Quizzes
Big thanks to @flowermiko for the original scans!
Ever wonder which of the guys you're most like? Which one you should date? Wonder no more. With these charts from the Gensoumaden TV guide and OVA, you can find out X3
※ 天上転(天)下唯我独尊 [Ten Jyo Ten(Ten) Ge Yui Ga Doku Son] The proper phrase, meaning “I alone am holy throughout heaven and earth”, uses the character 天 (heaven) twice, so the quiz replaces the second 天 with the homophone 転 (turn, roll, change).
BIG Presentation of Chart Results Here’s the result explanations you’ve been waiting for!! The character corresponding to the word you arrived at on the previous page is absolutely your personality type. Like birds of a feather, your compatibility is on the mark!!
天 [Ten] Heaven SON GOKU ENERGETIC MOOD MAKER Always full of energy. At any rate, you’re the Goku type who prioritizes exercise. Because of that personality you often get those around you into trouble, but you’ve got a strange charm and for some reason everyone loves you. And of course, your insatiable curiosity and appetite (!?) are hard core!! ● I like this type of person -- Genjo Sanzo ー A guardian-like person who seems like he’d forgive selfishness. ● This type is popular -- Kanzeon Bosatsu ー You’ll be teased and played with ... don’t get too close!?
上 [Jyo] Above KOUGAIJI EXTREMELY SHY PRINCE You’re the Kougaiji type with a strong sense of responsibility and a kind soul that thinks of others. Sometimes you can be too serious and you’ve been left holding the bag more than once. However, you’re charismatic and quickly pull people to you; you blow away any difficulties. ● He’s the type that would make a good rival -- Son Goku ー It’s amazing watching him break through without any hesitation!! ● The type of person I want to be near -- Yaone ー She gently takes care of both his mind and body (she’s an alchemist, after all)
転 [Ten] Turn CHIN YISOU FAITHFUL TO HIS OWN SELF INTEREST You’re the Chin Yisou type who tends to get too obsessed with a single interest. In regards to interpersonal relations, you are unable to honestly voice your feelings or act on them. You should try to be more honest. ● The Chin type is definitely one I pay attention to -- Cho Hakkai ー Hakkai is also the type to straight-forwardly fall in love. He’ll be charmed!! ● On the other hand, what type likes him... ー Umm, he may be difficult to like as he is right now!?
下 [Ge] Below NII JIANYI SMILING MAD SCIENTIST!? You’re the Nii Jianyi type, bright-minded and not one to show your real intentions. Your words and actions tend to be unfathomable and your smile can be suspicious, so people around you may suspect that you’re “definitely plotting something”. ● I think I’d get along with someone like him -- Chin Yisou ー Two strange characters!? However, you must have a condescending attitude... ● It’s good luck to be beneath this sort of person!? -- Gyokumen Koushu ー It’ll be worth it someday to give in to his selfishness!?
唯 [Yui] Merely SHA GOJYO A SKIRT-CHASER, BUT ACTUALLY A SENSIBLE PERSON You usually take things lightly. Actually, you possess incredibly various talents. But no matter what you do you’re the jack of all trades, master of none -type for whom many things go unrewarded. You’re someone who can be relied on in a pinch, though you may grumble. You’re admired by everyone. ● The type of person I’d take as my sworn younger brother -- Son Goku ーA comrade he bickers with as soon as he’s near ● Popular with the opposite sex -- Woman at the bar ー Your witty conversation is spot on with anyone
我 [Ga] Oneself GENJO SANZO PRIDE HIGHER THAN A MOUNTAIN!? Quiet and blunt. You are the Sanzo type who is easily misunderstood by all. Your hand (paper fan) moves before your mouth, but that’s because you can’t show your emotions honestly. First, find a friend who can open your heart! ● This type of person can understand you very well -- Cho Hakkai ー Someone who understands your thoughts without saying a word ● What about the type that can open your heart? -- Goku and Lirin ー Uncalculating innocents. Are they small animals or babies!?
独 [Doku] Alone RIKUDO RACE WITH YOUR IMPULSE! You’re the Rikudo type who is moved by emotion, unable to suppress your impulses. Thus, you tend to cause trouble for others, but in the end you know where to draw the line. You’re someone who can easily take things too far, so be careful! ● This is the only person who can suppress you! -- Genjo Sanzo ー This is the person you want to be recognized by. Your embarrassed feelings are important!! ● The person of the opposite sex who will come to like you -- ...... ー Unfortunately right now... And you were such a catch before
尊 [Son] Noble CHO HAKKAI DON’T BE FOOLED BY THE NONCHALANT SMILE You’re the Hakkai type who is good at looking after others and is kind to all. You’re liked by everyone: man or woman, young or old. And, you can calmly make decisions and possess the strength of spirit to use your smile as a weapon (!?) and overcome any situation you get dropped into. ● You can’t leave this kinda guy alone! -- Sha Gojyo ー You have your hands full dealing with the sloppy Gojyo ● This sort of person is a good match -- Kanan ー Anyway, their wavelengths are √+. The perpetually smiling couple.
LOVE LOVE Compatability Check Sanzo, Goku, Gojyo, Hakkai ...... Which character is compatable with you in LOVE LOVE?
Fortunes by Kanon Miwa Profile: Astrologer who loves music, reading and ballet. Pisces. Type O Motto: The grass is greener on the other side. ※ Birthdates are taken into account, so fortunes will be different from start sign -only ones.
GENJO SANZO Birth: November 29, Sagittarius Age: 23 Blood type: A He’s a person who discovers a new self through knowledge and understanding, and strengthens his own power by exchanging energy with others. He can fully demonstrate his powers as a leader and will continue on toward his lofty goal so long as he is in unrestrained. But he tends to abandon his efforts when faced with an obstacle rather than endure it, so when sensitive people get close to him they end up hurt... Also, he will run with wild ideas when pressed. Keywords: Aim high and move your pieces forward
SON GOKU Birth: April 5, Aries Age: 18 Blood type: O Bright and full of charm! But he can be absent-minded, and this has hurt the people around him. But he has no evil intentions! He is the type to attempt things normal people would never think to try, and this awakens his hidden talents. However, he has a habit of jumping into dangerous situations, so be careful! He is the type to become extremely down when depressed, but shows an innocent selfishness when loved. Keywords: Has good intentions...
SHA GOJYO Birth: November 9, Scorpio Age: 22 Blood type: B A passionate person who combines acute human observation skills with precise powers of deduction. His mysterious aura often sets hearts abuzz, but also displays a friendly side when he gets used to his surroundings. Because he’s a passionate person, when he is unable to control himself he can suddenly become deeply jealous. Until he achieves his wish he may fail or arouse the suspicions of the people around him, but he is the type to grow into a trustworthy person while going through many hardships. Keywords: Broad-minded
CHO HAKKAI Birth: September 21, Virgo Age: 22 Blood type: AB Sensitive, and even though he shoulders a burden, he won’t let you know it. He’s the type to soothe people with his elegant charm. However, once he breaks through a wall he suddenly races to the limits and egoistically go out of control, so be careful! Even though he appears to act wildly, in actuality he is unconsciously calculating. He is absolutely an indefatigable person. Keyword: Indefatigable
GENJO SANZO, Sagittarius △ Good 【Cancer】You end up worrying about him. He’ll interact with you more easily if you’re more aggressive! 【Virgo】If you interact with him like a young lady would, he may instead pull away. Interact with him as an equal and he will value you more than anyone else. 【Scorpio】If you approach him too aggressively he tends to be surprised and cool down. First, firmly press forward and then mysteriously attack - that’s the key to success ♡ 【Pisces】Even though you actually have a lot in common, you tend to end up butting heads. Watch over him kindly. ◯ Better 【Taurus】First, put yourself out there with your own original approach. Don’t worry about being too bold; that level is perfect for the two of you. 【Libra】First, start with being friends. As you gradually get closer, he may naturally come to feel more possessive of you. 【Sagittarius】Seems like you could have a telepathic relationship if you don’t restrain each other. Jealousy and the urge to monopolize each other are the sources of your conflicts, so watch out! 【Capricorn】Precisely because you’re a steady person, you can support his unconventional areas! Compromising with each other is important ◎ Best 【Aries】Once the flame is lit, your love will grow bright enough to consume you both. However, if it interferes too much the fire will spread to unrelated areas. 【Gemini】The strength he receives from the sensitive you is the source of his courage. His somewhat rough words are because he trusts you. Don’t worry about it! 【Leo】Your existence is connected to his confidence. The more you love him, the brighter the fire that burns deep within him will burn. Push forward hand in hand! 【Aquarius】Even he acknowledges your superiority, creative as you are. Open his heart little by little through casual conversation!
SON GOKU, Aries △ Good 【Cancer】Your sensitivity tends to awaken his teasing nature. But he actually understands the same pain, so don’t take it to heart! 【Virgo】He easily troubles your intense feelings. Actively promote yourself and restore balance. 【Capricorn】You both tend to get obstinate. Don’t mind the small things; you can have a happy relationship if you can be honest with each other. 【Pisces】When you just can’t seem to understand one another, smile! Cultivate trust by easily smiling at each other. ◯ Better 【Taurus】Heal him with your tolerance and broad-mindedness. If you do that, he’ll come flying into your heart!! 【Leo】Support him even when he goes so crazy you can’t keep up with him. If you do that, you’ll have a good relationship. 【Scropio】At first glance you two stand in contrast to one another, but you definitely have that “something” that connects you deep down. Build up trust thoroughly. 【Aquarius】You’ll progress from an important friend to a best friend he can easily talk with. A deep bond will form from your almost familial relationship. ◎ Best 【Aries】The fact that you two take on unknown things is the secret to your long-continuing, stimulating relationship. You’ll have a bright and happy love like a burning flame ♡ 【Gemini】You two get along very well. If you smile and forgive he selfishness, his kindness will rise even more. 【Libra】You’re the best couple when his power and your wits combine. However, you may need to be cautious when he gets too excited. 【Sagittarius】Right now, it’s important to take just a few more steps. If you can share various dreams and goals, you can have a very good relationship beneficial to you both.
SHA GOJYO, Scorpio △ Good 【Gemini】You may end up hurting one another with a careless comment if the two of you don’t watch your words. Kind words are important. 【Leo】Your upright pride may be too bright for him. If you listen to him carefully, he’ll find it easier to talk to you too. 【Sagittarius】You’re both filled with vitality, but even if you do the same thing you may be thinking completely different things. Keep trying to understand each other! 【Aquarius】If you go at your own pace, he’ll go at his own pace. A tip to have things go well is for both of you to aim for a reliable course. ◯ Better 【Aries】He may dodge you if you bump into him head-on. Get him to honestly view you as the person fascinated with his behavior that you are! 【Virgo】Even if your values differ, he’s a comrade you can live alongside of. Your coolness with light a fire within him. 【Libra】To him, you are a bit of a strange existence. He’ll surely come to understand you if you actively approach him. 【Scorpio】Mightn’t both of you have parts you can’t see because you’re too close? If you patiently listen to each other, you can deepen your bond. ◎ Best 【Taurus】You should be able to accept his tendency to burn himself with the flames of a dark passion. If you devote yourself to healing and amusing him, you could have the best relationship! 【Cancer】He will catch hold of your deep sensitivity. However, be careful of a deep and dangerous corrupting love. 【Capricorn】Although at first glance your personalities are different, your straight-forward approach hits his sweet spot. You two are strangely suitable for one another. ♡ 【Pisces】A very good union. However, be careful you don’t see too much of each other’s good and bad points! Firmly accept his passion.
CHO HAKKAI, Gemini △ Good 【Aries】Be careful not to rub his sensitive feelings the wrong way! If you do you can maintain a very good relationship. 【Gemini】Be careful of your pride and his bumping into one another! While he can be kind he can also be stubborn, so try yielding the first step. 【Sagittarius】He may be puzzled by your assertiveness. However, fun conversations will develop if you listen closely to what he says. 【Aquarius】There’s a possibility you two will become an interesting couple. In order to do so, police your plans without acting on impulse! ◯ Better 【Taurus】A slightly plain but stable union. Cut down on selfishness and follow his lead, and you’ll have a very good relationship. 【Leo】In comparison to his calmness, your feelings tend to jump ahead. You can slow down, it’s okay! 【Virgo】The longer you carefreely chat, the more your hearts will be soothed. Things get tense for some reason when you stay silent, so be careful! 【Libra】You two enjoy conversations full of wit. In order to proceed from friendship to love, the most important thing is to actively push! ◎ Best 【Cancer】He properly understands your feelings. Respect for one another is the best. 【Capricorn】A good union. Your feelings for one another envelop you two like a quiet wave. Don’t forget to add some excitement to your lives. 【Pisces】He’s sensitive and you’re free. You’re contrasting, but actually you have a destined tie. However, don’t hold up in your own world! 【Scorpio】You both find what you lack in the other, and are charmed by it. It will take time for love to bloom, but that’s just the strength of your bond.
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