#anti sasusasku

[mdr-reikas]

I think a general issue with canon Naruto ships is that they don't have any reason to love each other in the first place??? It just doesn't make sense and tbh I've read some sasukarin fanfics, and they're really good. They made me think about all the possibilities much more, and I feel like they had much more chemistry than sasusaku

People can hate other characters all they want obviously but when sakura stans (mainly on tiktok) hate on karin of all people its so weird to me because both of their characters are obsessed with sasuke its just that karins reason makes far more sense in the story than sakuras. Karin is in love with Sasuke because he's the first man to show genuine compassion and kindness towards her something she never got beforehand because of how she was used for her chakra bite ability.

Sasuke does use the ability himself but Karin willingly lets him instead of her being forced to do so because of how she cares for him and loves him. But with Sakura I cant think of a genuine reason for why Sakura loves Sasuke except for their minimual amount of time a in team 7, where Sasuke cared for her and naruto as his closest friends and teamates, and how every girl in their class also liked him. At the start of shippuden it's even hinted that she now likes naruto in a romantic sense and not sasuke and she just wants to bring him back; becoming stronger so she's not seen as a burden or a damsel in distress whilst they're focused on retrieving sasuke back to konoha

I love both of these characters but when you claim a character whos story is a metaphor for sa/rape has attempted to sa another character it's so disgusting. Karin acknowledges that Sasuke doesn't love her near the end and is fine with it so i have no idea where this constant hatred for her comes from except for maybe her being a 'love rival' for sakura and even then sasusaku stans got their ideal ending of them being married so thats a really dumb reason.

karin and sakura should of just made out in the last movie to end this argument tbh because it's still going on years later

[rogueninja]

every time someone is like “sasuke marries sakura” i’m shook for a second bc i literally forget that it’s canon

[naruto-shipping-confessions]

[moss-veins]

Did Sakura realize Naruto’s true feelings for Sasuke?

I’ve wanted to write about this for a while now and seeing posts like this, I finally felt motivated to do it.

In the linked post, Maoam (op) focuses on explaining Sakura’s reactions in certain moments of the manga concerning Naruto’s feeling towards Sasuke and vice versa. My post will be different as I’m only focusing on when I think we first see Sakura realize that Naruto’s feelings towards Sasuke is the same as hers (romantic).

This post will be a little long so I’ll break it off here for people who don’t wish to read it!

Now, this is my first read through of the manga and I think with analysis it usually takes multiple read throughs, however, I do think what is noticed by a first time reader is also important to note. Also, I’m reading the manga with no intention of finding this scenario. I will point out that I did notice this first in the anime, to my surprise since I was not looking for this. I never once speculated that Sakura was ever aware of Naruto’s feelings towards Sasuke and I’ve became aware of this on my own, only coming across the linked post (and others) after I came to my own realization. Honestly, I felt more relieved seeing others’ posts, helping me to not feel crazy for reading this particular anime moment (and manga moment) like this.

First I will state the moment I believed that Sakura realized Naruto’s romantic feelings for Sasuke since I feel like I’ve been prolonging it and, if anyone reads this, it’ll be what the reader actually wants to know. The moment is simply when Sakura meets Naruto at the gate before the retrieval mission.

    Before diving into the moment that this post is about, I wanted to point out what I noticed before leading up into the moment (feel free to skip to the main topic). Something that contradicts anyone who wishes to think that Naruto and Sakura are close friends or even good teammates. Now, I never went into watching or reading Naruto with the mindset that they weren’t good friends or teammates. Since I started watching the anime as a kid, I saw the moments of team 7 being together and “joking” around and took that as friendship. However, as I got older and with reading Naruto blogs which talk in depth about many themes/topics in the manga and anime (as well as being a person who has studied to analyze literature), I’ve come to notice that it was not true friendship. Team 7 only showed the dynamic of coworkers/soldiers. They worked well as a team, they got along (mostly), but when the mission was over they went their separate paths and they didn’t hang out outside of “work.” I’m not counting the times Sakura spent at the hospital at Sasuke’s side because even when he was conscious he ignored her presence. The three had desired closeness but only from certain members and not as a group all together. Naruto desired to be close to Sasuke, Sakura desired to be close to Sasuke, and Sasuke desired to be close to Naruto.

Anyways, the contradiction I saw leading up to Naruto and Sakura at the gate was simply that they did not inform each other of Sasuke’s leaving. To start with Sakura, we know that she is woken up by two assistants getting documents for Tsunade (forgive me, I don’t remember their names). She tells them that Sasuke is gone, but where does she go after? Not to the Hokage and not to Naruto. If Sakura considered Naruto as a close friend or, at the very least, acted on the teammate role, she would have went straight to Naruto to inform him about Sasuke. Especially when the night before she told Naruto about the curse mark, Orochimaru, and her fear that Sasuke would leave the village. However, even though she did that and got comforted by Naruto, still the person who did tell Naruto was Shikamaru... who only told him because he was told to take Naruto on the retrieval mission.

Now, to switch my focus to Naruto... If he cared about Sakura (or liked/loved her) and cared about her worries and love for Sasuke (that he was aware of), why doesn’t he go running to her right after Shikamaru tells him that Sasuke has left? Naruto did not have to go with Shikamaru to pick a team, he could have went searching for Sakura and met Shikamaru at the gates in a time frame set by Shikamaru. However, the thought of telling Sakura does not cross his mind. Now, I’m sure some people may assume that during Shikamaru’s offscreen explanation to Naruto that he may have mentioned Sakura knowing and her role in informing the Hokage. However, we clearly see that is not the case because Naruto reacts with complete shock at hearing that Sakura met up with Sasuke and tried to stop him leaving the village.

“What... Sakura-chan. You already met with Sasuke!?”

Isn’t this interesting? That neither Sakura or Naruto informed the other of Sasuke being gone even though they both care about Sasuke and they’re all on the same team. It’s especially interesting since they all reflect on the picture of team 7 so often, that a viewer/reader who wasn’t attentive would easily believe that they are looking at the team as a whole... that they were all precious to one another, that they were all close friends. However, if they were close, Sakura would have run to Naruto immediately after waking up and Naruto would have went to find Sakura immediately after finding out from Shikamaru. I can’t say why they don’t feel like the other is important enough to do this. I don’t think Sakura at this moment knows of Naruto’s real feelings for Sasuke, therefore there shouldn’t be any reason for her to feel closed off from Naruto. Naruto, on the other hand, supposedly “likes” Sakura, enough to want to date her, but yet she isn’t the first person he runs to? Although, he does know that Sakura “likes” Sasuke... However, I can’t say whether that means he would be bitter to her because of it. He never (at least to this point, I can’t say anything for anything after) at least shows it. If anything, you’d think that the kind Naruto would at least be concerned about Sakura because of her feelings for Sasuke. Yet, neither of them go inform the other.

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(The main topic starts here)

Moving on, finally to the moment of Sakura’s realization that Naruto shares the same feelings she has for Sasuke! (Also the moment that the attentive reader becomes aware of Naruto’s true feelings as well.)

Look at her face right after Naruto says this! She’s not reassured by this, is she? Her face does not show comfort in his words, she looks confused and then conflicted? Upset? Nothing positive. If she didn’t notice Naruto’s wording here, the hint of his true feelings behind them, wouldn’t she be comforted that Naruto is showing that he is taking this seriously? That he is also upset about losing his “friend”? Wouldn’t she feel comforted by not feeling alone in her hurt of losing someone she cares about? And what happens right after this? Sakura has a flashback....

Why this particular flashback? Why? Let’s say Sakura hasn’t realized Naruto’s true feelings behind the words he said, don’t you think there are more fitting memories she could recall to? Such as Naruto saving Sasuke from Orochimaru’s Snake during the chunin exam? Or how about the memory of talking to Sasuke after the fight with Gaara, where she assumed that Sasuke saved her and Sasuke corrected her, telling her that it was Naruto who saved her instead. These are just two examples she could recall to assure her that Naruto is strong enough to save people, that he is strong enough to save Sasuke. However, she remembers this flashback instead.... which regards feelings and Naruto’s understanding of them (ignoring the fact that she thinks she is talking to Sasuke when she isn’t). (A little food for thought as well, from her point of view, she is remembering Sasuke asking about how she felt about Naruto... Therefore, she is remembering “Sasuke” only focusing his attention on Naruto since the beginning....) 

Again, why would she choose to focus on a memory that states, “He (Naruto) has now really become the troublemaker and disrupter of my love life... He seems to be enjoying watching me being troubled. He doesn’t understand anything about me...”

What did Naruto just say to her to trigger this memory? This... “Sakura-chan, you really like Sasuke, huh? I know how much pain you’re in because of Sasuke... I can understand.”

This is followed by:

He Always Knew. Or in other words (and translations) he always understood. This is the moment to me that she understood what Naruto meant behind his words (which could be why she is crying so hard yet again). She was hit with awareness and her flashback helped her to understand Naruto’s feelings as well. It’s also very interesting that she follows it with he always helped me. Sakura knows that Naruto has indeed always helped her and that he tries to make others feel better... So of course, Sakura would bet that Naruto would continue to help her regarding Sasuke even if she starts to see him as a rival for Sasuke’s love/attention (which Naruto kind of always was). Also, it’s important to remember that Sakura is a symbol of selfish love, so of course she is going to prioritize her feelings over Naruto’s. I think this is also why they never become closer than teammates. They never keep in touch unless they’re on a mission together (for an example, the years Naruto was gone with Jiraiya for training, they did not keep in touch). 

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(What follows are kind of stray thoughts which move away from Sakura’s initial realization that this post was about, so continue reading if you’d like!)

This may also be why, later in Naruto part 2, we see her lie to Sai about Naruto’s feelings towards Sasuke.

“Naruto... Thinks of Sasuke as being like a brother. That’s why.” It’s obvious she is lying in this panel, because she is immediately paralleled to Sai who is also lying about his feelings towards someone important to him. They’re both drawn to only show the bottom portion of their faces, from the side, and we can’t see their eyes. I mean, this may only be caught after the first time reader learns of the information we get later about Sai’s feelings that allows us to know that he is lying here. However, Kishimoto definitely knew Sai was lying in this moment and Sakura is lying as well. Sakura knows that Naruto doesn’t see Sasuke as a brother but she’s not going to outwardly admit that, huh? Also, the linked post mentioned above also goes over Sakura’s reaction to Naruto calling Sasuke “cooler” than Sai and how Sakura doesn’t genuinely smile in that moment, and honestly she looks a little worried. (that panel in its self seems like she is trying to distract Naruto’s view away from Sasuke and to a guy that “resembles” Sasuke instead.... but that’s for a whole other post).

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Naruto’s face when he makes the “nice guy promise” to Sakura is obviously a forced smile. I’m not the first person to bring this up but I think it’s important to touch on it since I’m talking about the moment it happens in. Naruto’s action of hiding his pain behind a smile is something that the manga/anime has always showed us. For one example, here is Naruto starting to feel lonely and dejected by Jiraiya and we see he is hurt by Jiraiya’s words and refusal to stay with him while he trains, but he quickly changes to a smile to hide his emotions.

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Another small thing I noticed is that after Naruto’s promise he leaves with Shikamaru’s team. There is no “goodbyes” or “I’ll see you soon” or any other exchange with Sakura. Perhaps he didn’t want to put on an act anymore and chose to put his focus on something else. To seem like the outgoing goofball he portrays himself as. We know Naruto prefers this type of attention anyways.

Also it’s interesting seeing Naruto’s reaction to Kiba, the face doesn’t look like a forced smile anymore (perhaps a peek behind the mask?) and it quickly turns into a determined one. He now isn’t putting on a fake act for Sakura (”a promise only for her”) and recites his Ninja Way. Before Sakura showed up at the gate Naruto only appeared outwardly to be determined and confident in this mission to return Sasuke back to village, and now thanks to Kiba bringing his attention away from Sakura, Naruto went back to how he was before.

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Fin.

[ohfortheloveofnaruto]

Imagine Sasuke sitting with Sakura at the lake and quietly telling her about Naruto and how he was the first one to notice and truly be noticed by and things just finally click and she tears up a little and smiles and knows in her heart that the boy in front of her - she does indeed love, but not like she once thought…

She’s moved on and grown and Sasuke just smiles at her a little shy and a little apologetic at his unease of sharing such things and they both kind of just laugh and talk about how Naruto is the biggest dunce in the world but their inflection is so soft and kind and Sakura hears the over pouring of love in every innuendo of Sasuke’s when he mentions the blonde and she knows she’ll be okay and she knows she has so much inner and outter beauty and strength and healing to offer the world and she suddenly thinks of Ino and smiles and wonders what the future holds for her and for her two crazy and beautiful comrades on team 7. Even though she already knows, Naruto is the one for him. Soul mates but also her bestfriends and she’s happy and Sasuke is content and Naruto is downing ramen and sneezes suddenly… He hopes it is Sasuke talking about him.

[yabaikorra]

Why Mikoto and Fugaku wouldn’t approve of SasuSaku

1. If the massacre didn’t happen, they would have Sasuke marry another Uchiha and view Sakura as Sasuke does - annoying fangirl.

2. If they were alive but there would be no another female Uchiha and Sasuke needs to marry outside the clan, they would much prefer Ino or Karin. Why? They come from old and famous clans, I'm sure no Uchiha would complain to have mind transfer jutsu.

3. No parent would want their child to be with somebody they don’t love and who forces herself on them.

4. No parent would want their child to be with somebody who wants them only because they are talented and hot and cool.

5.  No parent would want their child to be with somebody who doesn’t even try to understand them.

6. And her personality, she is short-tempered, competitive, and it’s hard to have a conversation with her, like, no, just no.

Bonus: Yeah, she may be a medic but Ino’s a medic as well and Karin’s got a Heal Bite. And they are both sensors.

[usuratonteme]

The Naruto Manga Through an SS Shipper's Eyes

naruto, with his dick shoved halfway up sasuke's ass: lol by the way no homo

sasuke: it's cool bro i'm in love with sakura, why else do you think i'm doing this

[his-scarlet]

all the people who were so spiteful and hateful towards karin lmfao please tell me again how she is a rapist and obsessive and a fucking slut if none of that applies to the ending of this series? please i’ll let you finish.

[yaoi-sasuke]

I just could NOT stop myself.

[sasuita]

I detest it when SS shippers turn Sasuke into an OOC pervert. Scratch that, I hate it when ANY Sasuke pairings turns him into that. They are just using an OC while slapping Sasuke's name and face on him.

Or using RTN!Suke which is the total OPPOSITE of regular Sasuke lol.

I just.

Sakura standing up to him. Sakura telling him to back off when he crosses the line. 

THAT'S SOMETHING KARIN WOULD DO.

[yabaikorra]

No matter how physically strong Sakura becomes, she will always have low self respect when it comes to Sasuke

At the beginning of Naruto, Sakura was one of the weakest characters but did have some confidence because she was very smart.

When Sasuke insulted her,

she didn’t recover until he complimented her.

At the end of Shippuden, she became very strong and confident.  Becuase Sasuke wasn’t around for 3 years to ruin her self-respect and distract her from training.

He insults her again and she breaks down and cries.

 Come on, Sakura! Just when they gave her some character development they had to ruin her and label her as Sasuke’s bitch forever.

[ohfortheloveofnaruto]

Hey @zotmoun aka SelfHatingHomo, we here at ohfortheloveofnaruto found your message very humorous!

1. If anti posts upset you. Don’t look through them. You clearly can’t handle opposing opinions, I would suggest studying debating skills because their is indeed a sad, palpable void where your tolerance could have been growing. Instead, you seem to be stuck in this angry phase…. Which is really disappointing because being a pro ender, what do you have to be so salty about?

Our SNS fandom being so happy? So adorable ? So full of love and light?

Jealousy is quite ugly. But it suits you well, I suppose. Good job displaying what SasuSasku shippers are like by the way… Representing the team with homophobic slurs….

Pitiful. *pats your back* it’s okay, there’s still time to grow!

Its so clear to me that you are insecure of your shippings, you even go into others to try and justify and make sense of your own….

That’s a mistake, because I’m not here to hold your hand and guide you through the process of being a decent human being with common sense and a moral compass. Seems the adults in your life failed you miserably, my apologies.

Here lies the biggest problem -

Sasuke and Naruto don’t have to be gay. They don’t have to be straight. They could be asexual, and the strongest bond would still be between them.

Your opinion doesn’t matter.

I ship their bond, their struggle, them as a unit, a pair, as friends, as soul mates.

I’m pro Naruto, pro Sasuke.

You are just a scared little child who hates that sweet spot inside your ass.

Might I suggest therapy? Repressed feelings can really turn you into an asshole.

P.s just because of this, I will be sure to make many, many, many more anti posts - just for you! Hope you enjoy them!

Great day to you! You special little person, you!