#and I’m not saying misogyny is good
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Right. I agree one hundred percent with this.
This fandom has existed since a time where misogyny “wasn’t a problem” (it was OBVIOUSLY a problem but it was more widespread and people didn’t think of it as much as we do now. Ofc there were people that tried to fight against it, and they were frowned upon, but thats slightly beside the point).
The point being that we have brought with us this misogynistic sight on the Sherlock Holmes fandom since it has been embodied since the start of it. And that’s not good, we should DEFINITELY stop that.
But the tag I made was only to show that it wasn’t the ENTIRE moment I wanted to highlight, I wanted to highlight the hand-holding. And that’s it.
Maybe I shouldn’t have put it in the way that we should ignore the woman. And yes she doesn’t threaten anything.
But I also think some people need to take things they see online slightly less fucking seriously (says I writing a small paragraph)
Because at the end of the day it’s just a fandom. It’s not in real life.
And i genuinely don’t think most of us are thinking that deep about what we say.
It really isn’t that deep.
I just rewatched “The Greek Interpreter” and god when they held hands
I can’t
And Holmes was so majestic in this as well
I just love this episode so much
sorry for the quality 🙈
#and I’m not saying misogyny is good#definitely not#but pls#I know she isn’t threatening the ship#this was just meant as a bit of fun#and not anything that should spark conflict#and don’t forget that we all love Irene#but no that’s just one woman#we hate the rest#???#and sherlock holmes is a fucking angel?#we should learn to calm down#yes me too
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geralt is also a most real depiction of good quality fatherhood and great girldad representation because EVEN THOUGH witchers don’t even experience aging at the same rate as non-GMO humans, EVEN THOUGH it would be “biologically impossible,”
geralt having had been raising a pre-teen girl for maybe a few months to a year already “gave the impression of having aged,” his “face slashed by wrinkles.” the emotional toll on this man from raising she-devil ciri
and this is only the very beginning of the saga. BEFORE everything goes to shit. the wrinkles have set in
#i know this is description is colored by triss’… [sighs] aroused… point of view#but the lines in the second screenshot are such a good description of him come on 🥺#same with when cahir sees ciri then him at thanedd#it’s not canon but please also apply to yennefer post-thanedd 🙏#can you imagine geralt and yennefer reuniting at stygga castle and yennefer only got even more MILFy#sorry. who said that#it’s actually surprising that when geralt frees her from her shackles#we don’t get a paragraph about how he was down bad. not the time geralt but you know he would be thinking ‘ravishing’#meanwhile yennefer is covered in blood and bruises and her hands are fucked from torture and geralt’s still adoring her beauty#yennefer: at her most undignified | geralt: i would worship her#yes yes i know they were defeated and horribly empty at stygga castle#but i’m just saying despite it all the love and attraction persisted. despite IT ALL#you know like they changed so much and got even more fucked up and traumatized#well i’m just raising my hand to say well also they also got sexier.#actually fuck it remember she appears like a titaness for a brief moment. her short queen REALNESS#like i do think geralt deciding to split up is what further doomed the hanza (they were already doomed but you know)#(it was very scooby doo of him to do that)#(on the way there) angoulême sees stygga on the cliffside jutting out above the lake: what?! that creepy castle… nuh-uh…#milva: … would you do it for a bump of fisstech? | angoulême: … | milva: two bumps of fisstech?#um anyways#i was going to say that once geralt freed yennefer it was OVERRR for vilgefortz and skellen and co#BOOO you were all fucked. woman unleashed#remember when bonhart attacks yennefer it is like a lion and a panther in the cell#geralt just unleashed the panther on them#they really should have had yennefer under stronger security like i guess vilgefortz’ misogyny really was the death of him#that is also kind of true because he dies because of geralt’s amulet from fringilla#so it was literally because of several women and a girl and also a vampire that he triumphs#you know when you put dandelion with a group of women it feels like a fox in a henhouse. even if said fox is stupid and gets kicked#however putting regis with a group of women is something like the angel that appeared to mary#the elbow-high diaries
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It always annoys me when people are like “saying men suck is bad bcs it alienates men, you have to be nicer” bcs one time at work, me and my coworkers who were all women were privately talking about that football player who said women shouldn’t go to college and should just become housewives, and were saying that the problem is less men and more gender roles and societal views on what men and women should do, and somehow that still pissed off a guy who overheard us talking about it so much that he called us all bitches and demanded to speak to our boss
#my posts#like yeah i don’t think all men suck#but even saying it in a way that puts no individual at fault leads to men taking that personally and getting misogynistic#and you can never really know what men may react that way#or if they’ll take you pointing out misogyny serious in all situations#both my boss and manager#who are generally good to me and supportive about me getting mistreated#only like. 50% of the time take things seriously when i point out being mistreated#and the rest of the time they try to justify it#‘he just doesn’t know how to talk to younger women’#‘he’s autistic he doesn’t mean badly’#and yet they treat me badly anyway#bcs they know i’m a woman and that means i’m an object to them
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worst thing in the whole world is sharing ur insight on a topic ur educated on in class and then someone says i disagree and their reasons are so obvs wrong and not at all relevant to what u said and u have to sit there like 🙂 as if u r not listening to someone who has no idea what they’re talking abt and did not understand what u said go on abt why ur probably wrong. like ok. i’m definitely normal abt this.
#michelle speaks#i said smth so true in class and this girl is like um no i don’t think so bc i think it’s like this COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ISSUE ENTIRELY.#me talking abt misogyny and she’s like actually this is like drugs. i’m like girl but what if it isn’t at all actually?#she was saying the misogyny i was talking abt was comparable to drugs so i was wrong abt my conclusions on the misogyny#im sitting there like girl these are literally two separate incomparable issues. r u good?
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the Gansey family + sarchengsey lunch scene is interesting from a Gansey’s-relationship-with-his-family-sucks-so-much-on-god perspective but like. It could be a much better chapter than it is I wish there was jumping around in povs because there are these moments of Gansey noticing in periphery that Blue is Not having a good time there or at least is having some uncomfortable interactions with his parents (including them being like oh what a lovely exotic cadence about her accent which :/. if your reading Blue as a WoC that’s deeply uncomfortable if your just reading her as white it’s still annoying and condescending and classist and you know she hated it) but the focus isn’t really on her it’s on the Gansey-Helen convo which yk I enjoy for some of my last AG crumbs but I don’t like that there’s more emphasis placed on how the family’s responses to Blue effect Gansey rather than how she feels about them. I would have liked the scene in split pov or just a follow up about it in the next Blue pov.
#listen I Love bluesey like I’ve said before they were one of the first romances I felt strongly about in fiction so they have a special#place in my heart and I think they have good writing and development that gets overlooked and undersung. but I’m also not going to lie and#say there isn’t misogyny in how they’re written / whose feelings and internal state gets prioritized in places#and you could say that’s because this is Gansey’s book but like. Adam isn’t getting that treatment when it comes to processing#s speaks#s rereads trk#trc reread notes#trc#anyway I want to write Blue at a Gansey family event soon. It might come up in one of the loops in tesselation but not for a while so maybe#I should write a one shot about it#blue sargent#richard gansey#the Gansey family
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been playing emerald for the first time on and off as of late and RSE Brendan is so different from ORAS Brendan it’s funny like you’re NOT my son who is this bratty kid 😭
#I hate to say it but I wouldn’t have cared for hoennshipping if RSE was my intro to it instead of ORAS 🫢#and that’s saying a lot cause hoennshipping is… literally the reason I draw.#I was so obsessed with dorky neighbor Brendan that I see RSE Brendan with his stupid lowkey 2000’s misogyny and I’m like….. bruh#the fact he says this shit while being dressed with that horrid outfit…..#Ugh I know hyo would kill me for saying all this crap he’s been wanting me to play emerald for ages and I just think it’s ok 🧍🏽♀️#I see emerald and all I can think is “wow Oras was such a good remake actually wtf” and I’m angry it took until BDSP for ppl to admit that#like if it took you until BDSP to realize ORAS isn’t a shitty remake then you don’t deserve ORAS in fact ur a faker Hoenn fan than I am!! /#Anyways I told Lexie and Maple this and Lexie was like “there’s a reason Brendan didn’t rank high until ORAS”#And Maple said “I didn’t even ship them until I met you and you were so passionate about it lmfao”#ORAS fixed Brendan tho maybe I’m exaggerating saying I wouldn’t like yuuharu if I played RSE first when I had a crush on CALEM in HS#CALEM YOUR FRIENDZONE SCENE GAVE ME SO MUCH PTSD I MADE MY SERENA A LESBIAN (nah I made her a lesbian for other reasons)#Ally shut up#Ally speaks words
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i don’t even have tiktok and i’m so so sick of being seen as old and worthless just because of secondhand comments about 30-something (women) being called old and worthless
#what if i fucking let depression get to me bc society as a whole not just online sees me as worthless#as i typed this my 5 month old kitten came and rolled over in front of me#most people suck#it’s half about misogyny don’t say it isn’t#some fandom spaces are toxic af and i hate that i’ve even absorbed some of it secondhand#i haven’t scrolled tiktok once but that shit leaks into twt too#i’m just trying to have a good time
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Why do you think the fandom treats Gemma and the Tomlinson sisters so differently?
Because Gemma is doing what they want and the Tomlinson sisters aren’t and despite being progressive and saying we support people for doing what they want we as a society and a fandom over all still operate under the rule of “my way or the Highway”
#I do know that some people in fandom have legitimate gripes with the twins and the way they’ve been racist#and I’m never going to argue against that#so if you send me anons talking about that I’m not going to engage because I know and you’re valid!#and I sure as fuck am not gonna say that never happened cause it did#but this specific hatred right now is not rooted in that#it’s rooted in an acceptable form of misogyny within feminism that says dumb women don’t deserve to make choices#because they are dumb and we hate them#only Good WomenTM deserve to do what they want#and THAT is a take I will fight against#every day#your beef with the Tomlinson’s is rooted in their racist actions in the past? good and valid#your beef is that they ‘aren’t being good role models’ and are ‘romanticizing teen pregnancy’ etc. I’m sorry but please re-examine yourself
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#I’m not trashing Chardelia though I love them so much#it’s important to note that their names are never said in the musical though lmao#they’re literally just ‘the lesbians from next door’#but despite that they’re written pretty well imo#probably because they were written by a gay man#who did a pretty good job depicting misogyny and the pain of being a housewife#credit where credit’s due#and TO BE FAIR…the gay male couple in falsettos didn’t really get to exist. that’s all I’ll say. no spoilers here#my ramblings
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going into instagram comments is crazy it’s like seeing into a (much MUCH) worse alternate reality like You ppl live such unfathomably terrible lives to me….
#aside from the general everything they’re just so boring and miserable. Btw#sorry it’s just i’ve had insta on my phone lately (unfortunately i can’t delete it until the party ☹️) & every SINGLE time i see some sort o#reel and i’m like HA yknow what i think? and then everyone in the comments is saying the complete opposite thing#every single time without fail#the other day i saw a reel where a bartender dumped all the leftover stuff from the thing (idk what it’s called) into a cup and every1 in#the comments was like ugh yucky disgusting / yk ppl put even grosser stuff in their mouths like genitals. besides if it’s cleaned regularly#enough it should be fine / that’s a big IF. meanwhile i’m like Yum jungle juice 😋#also one time i saw ppl talking abt how they sleep in binders at sleepovers COME ON reddit is free transtape exists. please#<- these r like the worst examples ever but it’s ok#also like the insane casual misogyny. it’s so bad out here guys#.txt#ppl arguing in the comments like ‘that’s like 2k calories’ / ‘why r u being negative besides it’s only like 300 at max’ / ‘it’s not#negativity’ GUYS. WHAT THE FUCK. CALORIES ARE GOOD I <3 ENERGY???? YOUR BODY ALSO LOVES ENERGY. COME ON. BUTTER 4 LYFE BITCH#OH AND ONE TIME someone made vanilla extract and the comments were all panicked muslims like oh no im rethinking all my vanilla extract#buying GUYS do you or do you not eat bread. great now figure out the alcohol content of fermented yeast vs a drop of ethanol in a cake (that#is being baked anyway!)
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Remembering once again how much I dislike Edelgard von 3H as a character, and how I don’t think she’s a good example of morally grey writing at all and how when I was full force in this fandom, it felt like you weren’t allowed to hold that opinion. It was very “you can dislike her but admit she has good writing.” But genuinely— I have writing objections.
I low key think that Rhea is by far the best 3H/W3H ever did a morally grey character but has it been long enough to voice such a thing? Will I get pounced???
#Edelgard has inspired my own writing because I dislike how she was handled#my issue is that she’s transparent manipulation of pathos#I was starting to feel so defeated by the moe being used in place of earned tenderness#the writing was like ‘take these war crimes now she’s going to be uwu shy about her Byleth fanart and aw scary rats’#it felt cheap#her characterization is so good in ‘Edge of Dawn’#I wish that was stuck to more#But I just felt like they were trying to force me to like her with waifuness#plus I really found the weird political rhetoric of W3H in particular objectionable#there was this sense that people prolonging war by defending their homes were just as bad as the aggressors#good gracious me#this is not a personal attack on anyone who likes her#remember when I posted about someone telling me you can’t criticize characters people deeply love?#it was her#I’m opinionated#FE3H#fire emblem#three houses#you can’t say it’s misogyny because I like Rhea as a powerful flawed woman#her being both kind and ruthless at different moments was done well#Rhea was dumb in CF but it felt like 11th hour scrambling to make Edelgard retroactively right#fudge nuggets I’m remembering how awful it was#CF is like ‘let’s see how much we can poke people with sticks’#and then ‘look! they hit back! proof the poking was justified!’
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does anyone else ever wonder when the ppl who get into video games that offers them options to date both men and women who completely ignore the women characters to complain about how the men are men and genderbend them into women in fan content to ‘fix them/the game’ while, again, ignoring the actual women, are going to evolve some self awareness. personally i don’t think they’re capable of it but stranger things have happened
#semi relevant to yesterdays discussion given it is that exact genre of person doing this#obligatory: this post is not some guy complaining abt ‘misandry’ misandry is not real i’m complaining abt misogyny and annoying ppl#i just think the thing they do where they say they Have to genderbend male characters into women bcuz there’s no good women in anything eve#is like the funniest lie of all time . just b honest.#they r so vocal and annoying and everywhere#‘aahh i need to fix this game that was inclusive to any sexuality and gender to make it just for me like it should’ve been’ 👎 nope
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jack drake is a dad for sure
#Okay hi i need to get out all my thoughts (at the midpoint-ish of robin/where no mans land stuff is happening)#Because it’s like. He is not a good father. But he also loves his son both are true at the same time#It’s like. he pulls out all the stops during no man’s land. and getting worried and mad when tim up and disappears suddenly a ton is a#reasonable reaction. But with that said. he sucks as a dad just differently from popular portrayal#I think everyone should read to the father I never knew b4 saying anything about Tim’s relationship with his dad. Like. Jack loves him and#he has an image of tim in his head that is very different from what he actually is#<- i don’t think only cares about status drakes is true at all like it’s a different issue.#<- and on that note janet is fridged so early so putting any sort of bad mom thing on her is just. like. misogyny#BUT anyways he also sucks as a father real bad the. tv ripping incident is genuinely haunting#He has a skewed perception of himself he’s constantly like I’ve been permissive.. when Tim comes back this time I’m going to be so#strict. As if he isn’t authoritative and terrible#Also his continued like I’m going to be a better father. (proceeds not to do that)#Also I’m always thinking of that one panel from the robin miniseries where they’re like dad we won’t let anything come in between us again#& the bat signal is in the background. genuinely showstopping.#Anyways. Yeah. Jack drake. Is a dad for sure. Not a good one. He sucks. In a way that is different from popular portrayal#In a rlly interesting way.#esha.txt#dc#tim
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Hot take but those “trans inclusive misogyny” jokes are not funny
#and proof that this website will only ever see misogyny as an add on oppression to other ‘worse’ ones#feminism#tw misogyny#also in case of anyone yapping about it being punching down#1. that’s bullshit#2. there’s a popular post going around about a conservative Christian man congratulating someone for coming out and then proceeding to say#how they needed to then start staying in the kitchen and be a good wife#and everyone just found it funny#another post about how someone’s school uniform has skirts and pants and only boys and transmasc students can wear them#and people found this funny instead of cruel to gnc cis girls and gnc trans boys and non binary students#I’m so fucking tired#tw transphobia#discourse
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I am wired to develop hatred against any character the author doesn't only favour but tries to shove down our throats, which is why I will always hate Daemon, Tyrion, Bloodraven (Blackwoods in general). It helps that all these are despicable men with very little redeeming qualities. Then there is Arya who as a whole is a hero, despite her progressively darker nature, but I don't hate her because she is a child, I just don't give two fucks about her.
i get it but also EYE am a fantasy enjoyer i like the weird tomboy who identifies as both a wolf and a girl who has wolf dreams where she guards her mother’s bloated and decaying body from being nibbled on until the magic fire zombie nearby can come and kiss her mother awake! like, yes i DO like that benjicot blackwood with the fun sigil and the cool pagan religion experiences being responsible for death for the first time and rises to the occasion even as he’s continuously hysterically crying over all the death he himself has a hand in, to the point that he keeps the bones of a man he loved from that man’s brother for years because he can’t let go of the terror he had a hand in.
like i definitely get you, we all know i have bitched about tyrion being overwritten ie just relying too much on his pov to move the plot along so the scenes can get repetitive (how many scenes do we need of him and shae fucking and feeling weird afterwards) or how some of arya’s time at harrenhal drags a lil bit but imma be honest i don’t quite understand when people are like “he made this character too cool so i’m gonna spite hate them” like everyone’s so mad about how there’s no way we should know what dialogue was exchanged before daemon and aemond died and meanwhile i’m over here rambling on the phone to my cousin like “and then daemon did a sick backflip offa caraxes’ neck and had his sword angled Perfectly to get aemond right through his good eye it was awesome” aksjdjd I like to laugh at how obvious his favorites are but it’s HIS story i think it’s ultimately fine if he thinks tyrion is cool as fuck or wants to give me like 5 chapters in a row where arya is just chillin in braavos, if it bothers me i put my audio on 2x speed 😎
#i do understand spite stanning where it’s like ‘the author clearly doesn’t like this character so the character is mine now’#altho i think u should be aware how much of that is necessary for the story and how much of it is Genuinely a weakness in the writing.#asks#anons#i also think sometimes people get deranged talking about barba bethany melly and naerys but that’s just typical misogyny#but like yeah i do think there’s parts of the stories that are Slightky weaker bc of his favoritism.#but that’s mostly f&b i mean so long as tyrion getting chapters doesn’t detract from say cersei’s arc that’s fine.#like i think you can tell he REALLY loves sam (who doesn’t) but sam’s pov and jon’s are evenly handled AND sam getting a pov doesn’t detract#from gilly as a character or jon or small paul or alliser thorne etc instead he gives us slightly different insights than jon.#i think agot does a good job of balancing all the povs in kl for example. the middle of acok struggles imo.#i’m not like picking at you specifically anon just like rambling with you about the series in general btw#idc if u hate daemon tyrion or the blackwoods so long as you’re not weird about arya & don’t call tyrion like#straight up slurs akskd 💀
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‘feminism should be about supporting all women not just the parts of it that are convenient for you individually’ very true. ‘I don’t like that this female character who considers herself a feminist doesn’t really do much for women who aren’t herself and her family’ fair enough ig, although I’d be interested to see if you hold male chars to this standard when it comes to how they treat and view women. ‘How Dare this female character, who I have deemed a bad and performative feminist, complain about her own treatment and have feelings about said treatment and call out misogyny as at least one factor in said treatment, doesn’t she know she has to complete xyz to qualify her as Feminist Enough to invoke that in a conversation for me to take her feelings seriously lmao’ I want kill you with hammers 💀.
#this is about older Blue Sargent discourse but applies to many many things.#remembering again this meta by this stupid fucking Adam Stan (I’m an Adam Stan I get to say this) who metaed about their break up and how#according to them nothing Blue said to him had any actual weight because she’s a performative feminist … she’s not a good enough feminist#and so she doesn’t get to be upset with her boyfriend for not communicating with her and not interacting with her as an equal/friend but#mostly going to her when he needs validation from her as a girlfriend… I think you need to do some thinking about this.#but anyway. I haven’t finished succession yet but applies to Shiv Roy applies to a lot of female chars who get that criticism whether the#crit existing in the first place is for legit reasons or not.#s speaks#fandom wank#fandom misogyny
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