#and Also zam is never able to fully work through his mapicc baggage because despite everything he still wants to hang out with mapicc and
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vitalasy going WHO IS INFLUENCING YOU ? DID YOU TALK TO MAPICC? as his immediate reaction to the zam betrayal and you can hardly even hear him say this because his mic cuts out is top 10 craziest eclipse moments to me
#this in combination with subz telling zam that he's proud of him for being able to betray them because it means that they did help him#bizarre things going on here like 1) subz is coping so hard. he is saying that to make himself feel better#2) i would argue that subz overstates mapicc#as a responsible party for zam's behavior at times because it's easier that way & so much weight gets put on subz being zam's savior in bot#of their minds#and Also zam is never able to fully work through his mapicc baggage because despite everything he still wants to hang out with mapicc and#this will just always be true but he also knows that it's somehow wrong and weird of him to still want to hang out with mapicc after all of#that because everything subz and vitalasy signal to him about it is 'FUCK THAT GUY!!!!!!!!!!!' (reasonably so)#my thesis statement. 3 million reasons for why zam is not capable of being honest and vulnerable with them ever and this is one of them#and in place of being honest with each other they all form this habit of performing a grand gesture (trust apples etc) to reaffirm their#relationship but it's suuuuuuuuuuuuch a bandaid over a crack in a wall that is about to fall the fuck down#and a lot of his behavior can be attributed to mapiccissues yes but it's about the way subz frames it#can i say also why was vitalasy scheduling meeting times to speak to the dude he sleeps in the same bed as every night. minecraft roleplay#logistics create the funniest situations on earth. i'm only pro 'its a coherent world and not a minecraft server' when it's funny#m#lifesteal
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